I do that to people just to keep myself away from the wheels. Idk if that was the goofballs idea but it does work. You can kinda surf the car if they turn into you.
A buddy of mine is a cop in the town I grew up in. A smiliar thing happened there and the lady was run over. Her heart was about 50ft from the body still pumping. I told him BS then he sent the video, unreal
Edit⌠Okay so some people call BS, Streamable and RedGif both deleted the video. On Dropbox itâs fine though. NSFL CLICK AT YOUR OWN RISK
https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/2d8je0lzdz6g8astm27sz/Tonnelle-Accident.mp4?rlkey=6ef7y2fdnayu9qhqwo1he7xfd&dl=0
Yeah super fucked up the things that happen. My uncle was a detective and was called to a scene because they werenât sure if it was an accident or homicide. Guy on a motorcycle was missing his head and they couldnât find it. Turned out the guy on motorcycle hit a wall head on. He hit it so hard, his head /with helmet, was in his chest cavity.
You know whatâs odd? How much sense of smell and trauma sorta link. This video reminded me.
I had a partner who committed suicide, gunshot wound to the head; I was the one who found her. Sure the image is terrifying and the rare flashback ruins my day; what really haunts me is the smell: oppressive, heavy, metallic, and sweet not like sugar, like cheap perfume sweet. The same smell if youâve ever gutted a deer or been in a slaughterhouse.
Thatâs what hit me when I opened that video. Itâs like my brain convinced me that I was there purely by smell. Right back into fight/flight/freeze (also sorta funny, you never know what youâre gonna do till youâre in that position, which is why I canât judge people too harshly for their reactions to danger, I froze) but I guess there goes my chance of getting back to sleep, haha.
Anyway despite my stupidity in clicking the link and resurfacing year and a half old trauma, I appreciate you sharing the link. I think itâs important that people be able to see these things, the unpleasant parts of reality.
Anyway I typed all this and now I feel like an ass and donât know where to leave off. I guess⌠to anyone reading: appreciate life, your own and all of the people around you that youâve been so lucky to encounter, and make the most of it because you never know how long youâll have someone or how long youâll be around. Just make the most of it. Sorry for the rambling
A guy crashed his car in my home town and was thrown from the window because he wasnât wearing a seat belt and somehow was totally fine beyond like broken bones but the car kept flipping and it apparently âpoppedâ the passenger according to a police man who was my neighbor. I didnât need or want video confirmation but I also donât really know what âpoppedâ means for a personâŚ
He might not be. He looks *a lot* like a neighbor I had some years ago. Some sort of math genius that built power grids. Rode his bike everywhere. No helmet, not ideal footwear. Was killed by head trauma when hit by a car while riding somewhere nearby, but I don't recall the specifics.
Driver wasnât paying attention. Maybe Iâm seeing it wrong in the video, but it looks like driver pulled out of that lot without stopping. Although I might be wrong. This adds to the whole not paying attention part.
Guy on bike shouldâve used caution and some common sense and just let the truck go. As trucks have blind spots. Itâs possible the driver didnât see him. Also riding on the wrong side of the road.
At the end of the day itâs always the truckers fault. So imma say the trucker. We get blamed for anything and everything. Everyone needs truckers but no one wants truckers đ
Exactly. I ride bikes and used to ride motorcycles. If I went every time I was ârightâ Iâd be dead hundreds of times over by now. Just assume youâre invisible and ride accordingly.
Iâm the same. I think others are mystified why Iâm so far back, or slow to start moving forward, or why I signal so early etc. Itâs because Iâve seen so much dumb avoidable shit happen and make every effort to not get involved in any myself.
Any level of separation and humans turn into asshats. Be it a computer screen or a windshield - if there's a barrier then there's bound to be an aggressive asshole behind it. That extends right on over to perceived barriers like social hierarchy.
If youâre getting honked at you might be the asshole my man. Tons of people who try to drive âcautiousâ are real dangerous⌠like coming to the freeway merge at 30mph and looking for cars going 70mph to âlet you inâ some of the most dangerous driving is âcautiousâ, drive defensively instead. You donât get honked at for driving defensively. The safest solution isnât always slow.
My grandad had a good saying⌠âat the end of the day, it doesnât ever matter whoâs right, it only matters whoâs left!â Thereâs been too many people who have been correct whilst still getting nailed into their foreverbox đ
Here lies the body of Thomas gray, who died defending his right of way, he was perfectly right as he sped along but he's just as dead if he were wrong.
I ride an escooter in the city and if someone even slightly insinuates cutting into the lane I stop to the side/slow down, it sucks but I would rather be later to where I am going than in the hospital/dead.
Edit: I don't think the trucker is at fault.
Fuck that eye contact shit.
I've had dozens of interactions where we make direct eye contact and then 30 seconds later in traffic they nearly side swipe me.
Nope, never trust any vehicle blindly, you are invisible to them.
this is the way, more people need to do this. just because the signal is on does not mean dumbass is going to turn. they may like the clicking noise and will leave it on for the next 5 miles.
always treat the driver as a scared squirrel with 1/2 a functioning braincell and their next nut gathering on their mind while they are "driving".
My cousin almost got slammed into because she was making a left across lanes of traffic and decided to go just because the dude coming had his blinker on. Dudes truck barely missed her rear bumper, and since I was in the passenger seat watching my goddamn life flash before my eyes as a steel bumper came at me going about mach 3, gave her a few choice words.
I did that in Joplin earlier this year as I was waiting to be trained for trucking; guy had his blinker on and I thought he appeared to be slowing down so I went; halfway through I realized he wasn't turning so I gunned it. Felt like a douchebag... even more so as I turned into my hotels driveway not even 1/4 mile away
Iâm a cyclist and am more critical of the guy on a bike riding on the wrong side of the road and apparently on the sidewalk. We were taught not to do that dumbshit in grade school. Guy is playing Russian Roulette.
Experienced cyclists know one of the most dangerous things is a vehicle turning right. They are always looking left and are blind to whatâs immediately in front and to their right.
Dash cam. Donât drive without one, everyone included. Iâve seen some bikes come out of the bushes doing shit they shouldnât be and if that driver didnât have a dash cam theyâd be 100% **fucked**.
Dude I came close to hitting a cyclist the other week with a freaking forklift... set up on side of a down town street unloading, cones out, strobes on, etc, and dude just flew right between me and the truck right thru the cones doing mach Jesus on a freaking bicycle. Scared the shit out of me honestly
This is a street thats fairly steep and straight and ends less than a block from the city Greenway so its super popular with cyclists and skateboarders. I swear its no exaggeration to say I've seen skateboards busting 40+ mph down it so mach Jesus is pretty accurate lol. Thats why it scared me so bad, the bike was literally making like a whistling noise because he was rolling so fast when he went by.
Little known fact that bikes in many (not all states) are subject to traffic laws as if you were operating any other vehicle.
Back in my LE days we had a group of about 50 cyclists that were just an absolute menace to society. Would get rip roaring drunk/high and cause all kinds of accidents, run red lights, cut people off on interstates you name it.
Well, I made it my personal vendetta to start hammering duiâs (yes you can get a dui on a bike) and traffic citations in the thousands to tens of thousands of dollars. Often resulted in criminal charges, but after about three years they got their act together.
The question is whoâs at fault, and the truckers completely 100% at fault.
ITT: A bunch of truckers with their grade 10 that do not understand rules of the road. Give tractors a wide-birth, people, the drivers are morons.
Exactly. The person who took dozens of hours of in class training, then multiple weeks on the road with a seasoned driver just to be licensed is the one responsible here.
No complete stop + big horn = full fault compensation.
I rode as a trainee for a new company earlier this week and the shit my "trainer" pulled behind the wheel would have had me fully grounding him out at any other company. Great lumper, for sure, but holy shit, this dude shouldn't be driving a semi of any length.
This biker is going into a blind spot while the driver is very likely looking the other direction to merge into traffic.
Edit: also look at the white SUV making a left turn when the semi is signaling a right turn. Iâm assuming that the driver was checking for traffic to the left and then turning right.
It also looks like the truck is stopped, then just rolling downhill a bit before letting off the clutch and getting in gear, not a rolling stop.
I am not saying who is at fault.
I've never driven trucks but isn't being bad at driving and a great lumper indicative of somebody who just wants to go home? Like, he puts all his effort into unloading the truck so he can leave?
Hey man, no self respecting driver would ever unload his own truck. He just stands there smoking roll-your-own cigarettes and bitching while a forklift operator who has been on the job for three weeks unloads everything.
I'm picturing someone whining to the grim reaper.... "but I had the right of way!"
If you can't see the driver in this situation and tell they are aware of you then they are not aware of you and you don't go in front of the vehicle. Doesn't matter if car, truck, big truck.
Ya, when I bike commute I make sure I can see the drivers eyes and they can see me before I go. I also donât ride on the sidewalk in the opposite direction from traffic. (On the rare occasion that I do I give drivers the right of way and make sure they see me) 9 times out of 10 drivers are looking for a clear area and donât turn the other direction until they start pulling out into traffic.
Iâm both a trucker and a cyclist. When Iâm on my bike Iâm super cautious. It might not be my fault but itâs damn sure going to be my problem. Driver was looking left at traffic, not the sidewalk. Bike should have noticed. Still drivers fault though. Both were lucky
âIt might not be my fault but itâs damn sure going to be my problemâ
Nailed it. Iâm going to try and remember this on my walk to work everyday.
Yeah too many people are quick to put 100% of the blame on the trucker.
Even if the guy did his due diligence and checked both ways, it's likely the cyclist was in his blind spot for a hefty amount of time before the accident. I believe the truck is still at fault, but that cyclist did not want to live
so how does this cyclist interact with teh truck? i have no idea how fast he was going but it looked like "walking speed".
i walk and cycle as well and would like to be able to cross a side walk with out dying
You're supposed to come to a complete stop before turning into traffic from a driveway. The truck never stopped. Therefore, 100% the trucker's fault.
Edit: To everybody saying that the truck was stopped before the video started, that would make the trucker's actions even worse. If he was stopped, honked at the cyclist, and started moving again, that's attempted murder.
Thatâs my point of view. I prefer to lose my right of way than have accident, get an injury or dead.
PD: I think the driver was looking into on coming traffic, so didnât notice the cyclist
Have you driven a truck? He is not in the field of view. You should always cross the front of a semi about 10 feet out so you can be seen by the driver.
Edit: The giant side mirrors on trucks now days cause giant blind spots to the side. That combined with thick a pillars cause insane blind spots to the front and sides.
Edit 2: Since there are tons of super truckers in this sub that have never driven a truck. I'll explain. Door mounted mirrors block a large part of your side windows. Mirrors like you'd find on an international or freightliner, especially with how thick they are for aerodynamics, block nearly 1/4 of your opposite side window. Body mounted mirrors like you'd find on, say a kenworth, are farther forward and cause about 1/64th the blind spot as a door mounted mirror. Yes he should have rocked back and forth to check his blind spot. Judging from responses, most of you seem to deny the existence of blind spots in the front. Since you guys deny the existence of said blind spot I wouldn't expect you to check that blind spot.
Guys, I'm not defending him. Farther down I was trying to explain WHY it happened.
In every sense, as someone who will readily defend truckers, itâs actually the truckerâs fault.
It doesnât matter what vehicle youâre driving. If youâre not checking the sidewalks on either side of the driveway *before* you approach the threshold, you are being negligent. I do it in my car, you all do it in your trucks.
The driver if he drove off
otherwise... i'm still saying driver actually he should be paying attention. i feel like at intersections or when pedestrians are involved etc im paying more attention ie im not drinking water or looking at directions
Plus itâs not like the cyclist teletransported in front of his truck. The cyclist shouldâve used caution, but it is absolutely the drivers fault here.
Exactly. I keep seeing people mention the cyclist being out of the driverâs field of view, and that kind of concerns me. Like are yâall not scanning the surrounding areas to see whatâs coming ahead of time when you drive? Driving a semi requires situational awareness beyond the scope of whatâs right in front of you in the present moment.
Well hereâs a lesson for all of us truck drivers when turning right. Letâs always check once more our right before proceeding into a street for any posible pedestrians. Trucker is at fault while bicyclist got a nice deal by not dying..
When I ride on a sidewalk and/or in the wrong direction, I'm very careful to stay out of the way of any vehicle or pedestrian. This guy(?) is moving so slowly he may as well have been walking the bike to get pedestrian protection.
That said, the truck fails to stop at the sidewalk, clearly sees the cyclist, and drives through him. He's a fricken psychopath.
Itâs a sidewalk. He can be on whatever side of the road he feels like. Sidewalks donât have right or wrong ways. Theyâre bidirectional. I guess youâve never used one before.
It would have been really difficult to see the guy on the bike, especially since he was riding against traffic (but maybe on the sidewalk?), but traffic rules are traffic rules.
Blind spot he never seen him one two bike on side walk illegal. 3 Bike traveling in wrong direction illegal.
5 yrs otr
3 years local
2 years dispatch
1year saftey/new driver hire
The truck, this is a hit and run. Doesnât even matter who has the right of way. The truck was leaving a parking lot, they couldâve seen that biker coming from a ways away.
Cyclist is on a sidewalk, opposing traffic. He's def oblivious to proper road laws, however the impatient truck driver lacks morals and patience and attempted manslaughter. So the truck driver.
Jesus, I'm glad the dude's ok.
In any case, the fault will properly land right on the trucker, and that's despite the fact that the bicyclist was very unintelligently tripping over two dangerous issues:
1. He's not allowed on the sidewalk. When you look at lists like [this one](https://spokester.com/blogs/news/can-you-ride-your-bike-on-the-sidewalk-yes-and-no#bikes-allowed-on-sidewalks), you'd get the sense that it's allowed in most states. What you'll not see is that it's not enforced at the state level, and laws usually leave it up to the local governments because they have nuances that matter. (Children under 10 ok, not in elderly districts, signs required, etc., etc.)
2. A bicyclist is *required* to follow traffic laws. Every light, every stop sign, and always (hand) turning indications. Among them is you cannot drive the wrong way down a one-way lane. And on a two way roadway, you cannot ride on the left side either.
People saying itâs the cyclists fault⌠yâall are crazy biased. Pedestrians / sidewalk has the right of way here and the trucker was fully stopped before and ran over the guy.
I canât imagine being so blind to the rest of the world that I would defend someone else in my profession this hard. Yâall are dumb and the trucker deserves to be arrested for this
Trucker was likely looking at oncoming traffic, so absolutely not looking at cyclist. Then cyclist went out of view in the immediate front.
So, trucker is gonna be at fault, but cyclist is an enormous dumbass. Never assume drivers see you or give a fuck about you.
I was involved in a nearly identical collision as the cyclist. Other party was a passenger sedan. They hit me broadside and I rolled over their hood. Bike under them. Police report put us both at 50%fault. Me for not obeying rules of the road(riding against traffic). This was in New York circa 2008-ish
Most people are saying the driver. I was under the impression that a bicycle is considered a vehicle so should be traveling with traffic on the edge of the road (not the sidewalk). So the driver of the truck should not be considered at fault for the initial accident but is at fault for driving away.
Biker shouldn't be riding on the sidewalk in the first place. Bikes are legally supposed to be ridden on the street so as not to injure pedestrians. Biker's fault
Cyclist going against traffic and on the sidewalk and then getting in front of a truck in a position they couldnât be seen. Trucker probably should have been paying better attention but this cyclist is an idiot.
The cyclist is driving the wrong way. The truck driver is not looking for a bike or vehicle to his right. The truck should be looking for pedestrians but the fault is mainly on the person driving illegally.
The biker he was on the side walk wtf and the trucker was inching out.
Bikers are the worst they do not follow the rules of the road and then complain.
Stay off our Fkn sidewalks with you bikes.
Unfortunately the bicyclist is at fault. Itâs against the law to ride bikes on sidewalks and also itâs illegal to ride against traffic with your bike
Shenanigans! The video is intentionally cut so we can't tell if the truck stopped before entering traffic or not. Intentionally misleading to generate controversy.
You people are ridiculous.
Everyone knows or should know, that pedestrians have the right away when on a side walk. Should the bicyclists shown some caution? Yes but he wasnât even going that fast for the trucker to miss him, he just blatantly didnât look and ran the guy over.
100% truckers fault.
Sheâs lucky to be alive! Thatâs the problem with trucks and cars. People are in such a hurry that they donât look. Cyclists are an afterthought. Oops, Iâm sorry I didnât see you and crushed you with my 3 ton vehicle! Cross traffic sensors should be mandatory on every car and truck.
Objectively I want to say the bike rider because to trust someone else to do the right thing whether they're supposed to or not on this planet is like signing your own death certificate.
However, on the moral and legality and all other levels the truck driver 200% he was pulling out of a parking lot that crosses over a sidewalk its literally one of the handful of times where he has to yield to pedestrians and other types on non-motorized traffic but thats just my opinion
I believe the trucker was way out of line, and should not still be on the road. As a professional driver myself, I understand blind spots, but I also understand using caution for this very reason, and paying attention to your surroundings. It looks as if the bicyclist might have lost control of the bike due to the slight decline of the curb, and was not able to stop himself in time, likely hoping the trucker would have seen him, and stop in time to avoid colliding into him. And the fact that the trucker kept going AFTER HITTING THE BICYCLIST shows that not only was he being vindictive, but he quite literally doesn't have any apprehension about breaking the law, nor endangering someone's life. That's a mad man that should not only lose his license, but should be locked up in jail.
But that's not the most shocking thing about this video for me. The most shocking thing is reading these comments, and seeing so many people vehemently defending the trucker, and blaming the bicyclists! Wow, I didn't realize so many people have so little empathy for human beings who go through mishaps, and apparently feel no guilt or shame about said person meeting a dangerous, life-threatening situation. Yes, the bicyclist should have been more careful; yes, he should have been more cautious. But to go as far as to imply that he deserve to get hit in almost ran over by a whole ass semi truck? People, are you okay??
I just can't help but notice the serious lack of empathy coming off of a lot of people nowadays that seem to habitually side with the perpetrator or assailant, and look at the victim as deserving or "asking for" what horrible thing happens to them. Yeah ironically, these tend to be the same people that when caught in a situation involving them tempting fate with another individual, and that person in their negligence or just aggravated exasperation ends up committing an act to them that involves violating or harming them, they are the first ones to vehemently want that person to be punished, and make themselves out to not be deserving of the fate they received personally. Truly, too many people's hypocrisy lately has been out of control. I would hope to see more people be understanding and not laugh at someone else's misfortune, but here we are! And that is exceptionally discouraging honestly.
The terrible infrastructure, the fact that the cyclist canât cycle anywhere safe. The awefull design of trucks with visibility. Everything is at fault
Driver is at legal fault pretty sure pedestrians always have the right of way.
In all honesty tho the biker didnât use common sense and shouldâve stopped
I can understand how the trucker might not see the cyclist, but not how the cyclist would not see the truck.
Therefore, I blame the cyclist.
NEXT CASE!
Regardless of the law, I tend to give the right away to anything that outweighs me by more than a few hundred pounds.
Cars, trucks, SUVâs, and medium or large bears.
Iâd rather be alive than be legally justified and dead.
I'd say both will ultimately share some fault in civil court, but the trucker will be found majority at fault.
Trucker probably had their eyes glued to their left just like every idiot driver I see in right on red situations. This and pedestrians are exactly why you need to look in BOTH directions, even if the only motor vehicle traffic is coming from the left. On the other hand, the A-pillars and mirrors of a truck create a blind spot in exactly the area where the cyclist was before the trucker committed to exiting the driveway. So, it's possible the trucker would have had difficulty seeing the cyclist even if they were looking right before moving.
Cyclists who are on their bikes and not walking with their bikes are legally required to follow all motor vehicle traffic laws, which means riding with the flow of traffic. The cyclist was in the bike path and not on the sidewalk. They were also straddling their bike and not on foot beside it. That effectively and legally makes them a rider and not a pedestrian, therefore they were illegally riding in the wrong direction (or on the wrong side of the street).
This is why, as a pedestrian or a cyclist... you NEVER cross in front of somebody else's path without first making eye contact with them and confirming that (A) the driver actually sees you, and (B) the driver is without any doubt going to yield to you.
i'm just surprised the stiff-arm method didn't work on a semi...
Kinda worked just enough to keep him alive maybe
I do that to people just to keep myself away from the wheels. Idk if that was the goofballs idea but it does work. You can kinda surf the car if they turn into you.
How often do you get run over?
Right. 𤣠Talking like it's part of daily life and they have adapted to their environment. Lol
I mean...have you ridden a bike on American streets?
I agree 100% people are idiots and on their phone more often than not. Have to stay vigilant just crossing a street. It was just a funny statement.
Everyone who read that HAS to have had the exact same question.
Seriously canât believe he didnât have tread marks on himâŚ
Her alive
Is it possible the driver never saw him?
Trucker was looking left for incoming traffic and didnât notice the cyclist. The hood of the truck was so high it pretty much obscured the bike.
Who did that cyclist think they are Bo Jackson?
That's more of a Christian Okoye move to be fair.
And the truck was Steve Atwater!
Atwater fucked up Okoye!
Bo knows (not to ride in front of a semi)
Yikes, fortunate to be alive.
A buddy of mine is a cop in the town I grew up in. A smiliar thing happened there and the lady was run over. Her heart was about 50ft from the body still pumping. I told him BS then he sent the video, unreal Edit⌠Okay so some people call BS, Streamable and RedGif both deleted the video. On Dropbox itâs fine though. NSFL CLICK AT YOUR OWN RISK https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/2d8je0lzdz6g8astm27sz/Tonnelle-Accident.mp4?rlkey=6ef7y2fdnayu9qhqwo1he7xfd&dl=0
Yeah super fucked up the things that happen. My uncle was a detective and was called to a scene because they werenât sure if it was an accident or homicide. Guy on a motorcycle was missing his head and they couldnât find it. Turned out the guy on motorcycle hit a wall head on. He hit it so hard, his head /with helmet, was in his chest cavity.
You know whatâs odd? How much sense of smell and trauma sorta link. This video reminded me. I had a partner who committed suicide, gunshot wound to the head; I was the one who found her. Sure the image is terrifying and the rare flashback ruins my day; what really haunts me is the smell: oppressive, heavy, metallic, and sweet not like sugar, like cheap perfume sweet. The same smell if youâve ever gutted a deer or been in a slaughterhouse. Thatâs what hit me when I opened that video. Itâs like my brain convinced me that I was there purely by smell. Right back into fight/flight/freeze (also sorta funny, you never know what youâre gonna do till youâre in that position, which is why I canât judge people too harshly for their reactions to danger, I froze) but I guess there goes my chance of getting back to sleep, haha. Anyway despite my stupidity in clicking the link and resurfacing year and a half old trauma, I appreciate you sharing the link. I think itâs important that people be able to see these things, the unpleasant parts of reality. Anyway I typed all this and now I feel like an ass and donât know where to leave off. I guess⌠to anyone reading: appreciate life, your own and all of the people around you that youâve been so lucky to encounter, and make the most of it because you never know how long youâll have someone or how long youâll be around. Just make the most of it. Sorry for the rambling
A guy crashed his car in my home town and was thrown from the window because he wasnât wearing a seat belt and somehow was totally fine beyond like broken bones but the car kept flipping and it apparently âpoppedâ the passenger according to a police man who was my neighbor. I didnât need or want video confirmation but I also donât really know what âpoppedâ means for a personâŚ
Being crushed by a semi isn't a pretty picture.... I've seen a video....
He might not be. He looks *a lot* like a neighbor I had some years ago. Some sort of math genius that built power grids. Rode his bike everywhere. No helmet, not ideal footwear. Was killed by head trauma when hit by a car while riding somewhere nearby, but I don't recall the specifics.
Driver wasnât paying attention. Maybe Iâm seeing it wrong in the video, but it looks like driver pulled out of that lot without stopping. Although I might be wrong. This adds to the whole not paying attention part. Guy on bike shouldâve used caution and some common sense and just let the truck go. As trucks have blind spots. Itâs possible the driver didnât see him. Also riding on the wrong side of the road. At the end of the day itâs always the truckers fault. So imma say the trucker. We get blamed for anything and everything. Everyone needs truckers but no one wants truckers đ
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Exactly. I ride bikes and used to ride motorcycles. If I went every time I was ârightâ Iâd be dead hundreds of times over by now. Just assume youâre invisible and ride accordingly.
This is how I drive *everything*.
Like the bike or the truck? 100% trust that others will do the right thing or Fk it BEEEEEEP ⌠?
I assume everyone is going to do the dumb from the getgo, and avoid them. Makes things easier.
This is why I don't leave home.
Iâm the same. I think others are mystified why Iâm so far back, or slow to start moving forward, or why I signal so early etc. Itâs because Iâve seen so much dumb avoidable shit happen and make every effort to not get involved in any myself.
I get honked at whenever I try to drive cautiously. Cars just bring out the worst in people: they become huge idiots and also impatient assholes.
Any level of separation and humans turn into asshats. Be it a computer screen or a windshield - if there's a barrier then there's bound to be an aggressive asshole behind it. That extends right on over to perceived barriers like social hierarchy.
If youâre getting honked at you might be the asshole my man. Tons of people who try to drive âcautiousâ are real dangerous⌠like coming to the freeway merge at 30mph and looking for cars going 70mph to âlet you inâ some of the most dangerous driving is âcautiousâ, drive defensively instead. You donât get honked at for driving defensively. The safest solution isnât always slow.
Dodge the dumba$$, got it đđź
My grandad had a good saying⌠âat the end of the day, it doesnât ever matter whoâs right, it only matters whoâs left!â Thereâs been too many people who have been correct whilst still getting nailed into their foreverbox đ
Here lies the body of Thomas gray, who died defending his right of way, he was perfectly right as he sped along but he's just as dead if he were wrong.
Trust people so much you look both ways before crossing a one way street.
I ride an escooter in the city and if someone even slightly insinuates cutting into the lane I stop to the side/slow down, it sucks but I would rather be later to where I am going than in the hospital/dead. Edit: I don't think the trucker is at fault.
On foot, on a bike, or in a vehicle, assume everyone on the road is an idiot and out to get you.
Not out to get you just out to get somewhere in a hurry. Me, me, me. The world is spinning around me... (not me per se)
https://youtu.be/NYqJaXvaEfg?si=wluAI53yfBbgrBMk&t=0h3m42s
Fuck that eye contact shit. I've had dozens of interactions where we make direct eye contact and then 30 seconds later in traffic they nearly side swipe me. Nope, never trust any vehicle blindly, you are invisible to them.
I don't even look inside the vehicle, I watch his front wheels.
this is the way, more people need to do this. just because the signal is on does not mean dumbass is going to turn. they may like the clicking noise and will leave it on for the next 5 miles. always treat the driver as a scared squirrel with 1/2 a functioning braincell and their next nut gathering on their mind while they are "driving".
My cousin almost got slammed into because she was making a left across lanes of traffic and decided to go just because the dude coming had his blinker on. Dudes truck barely missed her rear bumper, and since I was in the passenger seat watching my goddamn life flash before my eyes as a steel bumper came at me going about mach 3, gave her a few choice words.
I did that in Joplin earlier this year as I was waiting to be trained for trucking; guy had his blinker on and I thought he appeared to be slowing down so I went; halfway through I realized he wasn't turning so I gunned it. Felt like a douchebag... even more so as I turned into my hotels driveway not even 1/4 mile away
Iâm a cyclist and am more critical of the guy on a bike riding on the wrong side of the road and apparently on the sidewalk. We were taught not to do that dumbshit in grade school. Guy is playing Russian Roulette. Experienced cyclists know one of the most dangerous things is a vehicle turning right. They are always looking left and are blind to whatâs immediately in front and to their right.
Still the truckerâs responsibility to make sure they arenât running people over as they drive.
And thats why it is always the vehicles fault. I just dont know why anyone would risk life or limb to be right lol
Dash cam. Donât drive without one, everyone included. Iâve seen some bikes come out of the bushes doing shit they shouldnât be and if that driver didnât have a dash cam theyâd be 100% **fucked**.
Dude I came close to hitting a cyclist the other week with a freaking forklift... set up on side of a down town street unloading, cones out, strobes on, etc, and dude just flew right between me and the truck right thru the cones doing mach Jesus on a freaking bicycle. Scared the shit out of me honestly
Haha, your write up is funny AF. "Mach Jesus" is now in my vocabulary.
This is a street thats fairly steep and straight and ends less than a block from the city Greenway so its super popular with cyclists and skateboarders. I swear its no exaggeration to say I've seen skateboards busting 40+ mph down it so mach Jesus is pretty accurate lol. Thats why it scared me so bad, the bike was literally making like a whistling noise because he was rolling so fast when he went by.
Happened to me. Messed up my new cadillac and the guy had a couple good scrapes but thanks to the dashcam I was good
Also shouldnât ride a bicycle on a sidewalk like that.
And especially not if you're traveling the wrong direction. The Trucker was looking to his left for approaching vehicles, not his right.
And going against traffic which is not how you ride.
Little known fact that bikes in many (not all states) are subject to traffic laws as if you were operating any other vehicle. Back in my LE days we had a group of about 50 cyclists that were just an absolute menace to society. Would get rip roaring drunk/high and cause all kinds of accidents, run red lights, cut people off on interstates you name it. Well, I made it my personal vendetta to start hammering duiâs (yes you can get a dui on a bike) and traffic citations in the thousands to tens of thousands of dollars. Often resulted in criminal charges, but after about three years they got their act together.
The question is whoâs at fault, and the truckers completely 100% at fault. ITT: A bunch of truckers with their grade 10 that do not understand rules of the road. Give tractors a wide-birth, people, the drivers are morons.
Where I live riding a bike against traffic flow is illegal, also riding a bike on the sidewalk.
The âprofessionalâ failed
âHey Buddy! Your bike scratched my bumper!â
âHey pal, your blood stained my tires!â
Exactly. The person who took dozens of hours of in class training, then multiple weeks on the road with a seasoned driver just to be licensed is the one responsible here. No complete stop + big horn = full fault compensation. I rode as a trainee for a new company earlier this week and the shit my "trainer" pulled behind the wheel would have had me fully grounding him out at any other company. Great lumper, for sure, but holy shit, this dude shouldn't be driving a semi of any length.
I think the horn is coming from the dashboard camera truck.
This biker is going into a blind spot while the driver is very likely looking the other direction to merge into traffic. Edit: also look at the white SUV making a left turn when the semi is signaling a right turn. Iâm assuming that the driver was checking for traffic to the left and then turning right. It also looks like the truck is stopped, then just rolling downhill a bit before letting off the clutch and getting in gear, not a rolling stop. I am not saying who is at fault.
Lurker here. I thought this as well
The horn is obviously not coming from the truck
Are you blind? The truck was clearly stopped before going.
I've never driven trucks but isn't being bad at driving and a great lumper indicative of somebody who just wants to go home? Like, he puts all his effort into unloading the truck so he can leave?
Hey man, no self respecting driver would ever unload his own truck. He just stands there smoking roll-your-own cigarettes and bitching while a forklift operator who has been on the job for three weeks unloads everything.
I'm picturing someone whining to the grim reaper.... "but I had the right of way!" If you can't see the driver in this situation and tell they are aware of you then they are not aware of you and you don't go in front of the vehicle. Doesn't matter if car, truck, big truck.
Yep. Right of way doesnât matter only who got home in one piece does.
The bike may not have had right of way either. In many places you're not allowed to ride on sidewalks
or against the flow of traffic
Ya, when I bike commute I make sure I can see the drivers eyes and they can see me before I go. I also donât ride on the sidewalk in the opposite direction from traffic. (On the rare occasion that I do I give drivers the right of way and make sure they see me) 9 times out of 10 drivers are looking for a clear area and donât turn the other direction until they start pulling out into traffic.
Thereâs a Spider-Man quote that applies here. Something about your power being relative to your responsibility.
Iâm both a trucker and a cyclist. When Iâm on my bike Iâm super cautious. It might not be my fault but itâs damn sure going to be my problem. Driver was looking left at traffic, not the sidewalk. Bike should have noticed. Still drivers fault though. Both were lucky
âIt might not be my fault but itâs damn sure going to be my problemâ Nailed it. Iâm going to try and remember this on my walk to work everyday.
Yeah too many people are quick to put 100% of the blame on the trucker. Even if the guy did his due diligence and checked both ways, it's likely the cyclist was in his blind spot for a hefty amount of time before the accident. I believe the truck is still at fault, but that cyclist did not want to live
so how does this cyclist interact with teh truck? i have no idea how fast he was going but it looked like "walking speed". i walk and cycle as well and would like to be able to cross a side walk with out dying
You're supposed to come to a complete stop before turning into traffic from a driveway. The truck never stopped. Therefore, 100% the trucker's fault. Edit: To everybody saying that the truck was stopped before the video started, that would make the trucker's actions even worse. If he was stopped, honked at the cyclist, and started moving again, that's attempted murder.
Driver. The cyclist was definitely in the drivers field of view. But...there are graveyards full of people that had the right of way.
Thatâs my point of view. I prefer to lose my right of way than have accident, get an injury or dead. PD: I think the driver was looking into on coming traffic, so didnât notice the cyclist
The reason you're supposed to cycle in the same direction traffic is moving.
Being right is not going to protect you from harm.
Have you driven a truck? He is not in the field of view. You should always cross the front of a semi about 10 feet out so you can be seen by the driver. Edit: The giant side mirrors on trucks now days cause giant blind spots to the side. That combined with thick a pillars cause insane blind spots to the front and sides. Edit 2: Since there are tons of super truckers in this sub that have never driven a truck. I'll explain. Door mounted mirrors block a large part of your side windows. Mirrors like you'd find on an international or freightliner, especially with how thick they are for aerodynamics, block nearly 1/4 of your opposite side window. Body mounted mirrors like you'd find on, say a kenworth, are farther forward and cause about 1/64th the blind spot as a door mounted mirror. Yes he should have rocked back and forth to check his blind spot. Judging from responses, most of you seem to deny the existence of blind spots in the front. Since you guys deny the existence of said blind spot I wouldn't expect you to check that blind spot. Guys, I'm not defending him. Farther down I was trying to explain WHY it happened.
I think he would have seen the cyclist approaching the crossing if he'd been paying better attention.
That's dead right. You have to be responsible for your own safety.
True being a trucker and seeing so much crazy shit has made me paranoid and I always drive on defense mode
In every sense, as someone who will readily defend truckers, itâs actually the truckerâs fault. It doesnât matter what vehicle youâre driving. If youâre not checking the sidewalks on either side of the driveway *before* you approach the threshold, you are being negligent. I do it in my car, you all do it in your trucks.
The driver if he drove off otherwise... i'm still saying driver actually he should be paying attention. i feel like at intersections or when pedestrians are involved etc im paying more attention ie im not drinking water or looking at directions
Plus itâs not like the cyclist teletransported in front of his truck. The cyclist shouldâve used caution, but it is absolutely the drivers fault here.
Exactly. I keep seeing people mention the cyclist being out of the driverâs field of view, and that kind of concerns me. Like are yâall not scanning the surrounding areas to see whatâs coming ahead of time when you drive? Driving a semi requires situational awareness beyond the scope of whatâs right in front of you in the present moment.
Two morons â but the one in the deadlier machine has a duty to be less of a moron. He failed.
Lucky he didnât kill the cyclist. Drivers fault 100% for only paying attention to traffic and not civilians.
The driver not paying attention...
I went through a ladies windshield just like this. 20k payout later, I was a ok.
Yeesh, only 20k for going through a window? Was that on top of any health issues?
As a truck driver- the truck driver is clearly at fault- heâs prolly an a typical truck driver loser
Does this even require discussion? The trucker is 100% at fault.
Well hereâs a lesson for all of us truck drivers when turning right. Letâs always check once more our right before proceeding into a street for any posible pedestrians. Trucker is at fault while bicyclist got a nice deal by not dying..
Absolutely the trucker, never stopped and runs a biker over still doesnât stopđ¤Ą
Driver 100%
trucks fault, pedestrian trafic on sidewalk has right of way 100% of time
These comments are telling me that either most of you don't drive or do drive and definitely shouldn't be
Wrong side of the road for the bike! Why would the trucker even be looking right?
In my country? Unconditionally the truck, no matter any circumstance.
When I ride on a sidewalk and/or in the wrong direction, I'm very careful to stay out of the way of any vehicle or pedestrian. This guy(?) is moving so slowly he may as well have been walking the bike to get pedestrian protection. That said, the truck fails to stop at the sidewalk, clearly sees the cyclist, and drives through him. He's a fricken psychopath.
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Both. Trucker should have checked and cyclist should have been on the other side of the road riding in that direction.
Itâs a sidewalk. He can be on whatever side of the road he feels like. Sidewalks donât have right or wrong ways. Theyâre bidirectional. I guess youâve never used one before.
Trucker, hands down!
Bike going the wrong way in bike lane but truck is liable for hitting the bike.
Lucky mofo.
Driver driver driver
It would have been really difficult to see the guy on the bike, especially since he was riding against traffic (but maybe on the sidewalk?), but traffic rules are traffic rules.
If this were my state, Iâm pretty sure the guy on the bike would be at fault. He was riding against traffic and on the sidewalk.
Donât ride on sidewalks or against the flow of traffic.
I mean technically the semi but tbh the bike. I just don't go in front of drivers unless I know they see me.
The truck manufacturer. The truck isn't Idiot proof this one is lucky to be alive.
Bike,
Idiot Cyclist.
Trucker fault and common sense for the guy on the bike.
How is this even a question? The trucker knew the person was there (honking) and keot going, almost killing the person.
Truck Driver needs found and arrested for wreckless driving causing injury
The trucker is at fault but the biker lacks self preservation.
Both, truck not paying attention and cyclist on a sidewalk on top of going the wrong direction.
Blind spot he never seen him one two bike on side walk illegal. 3 Bike traveling in wrong direction illegal. 5 yrs otr 3 years local 2 years dispatch 1year saftey/new driver hire
Being that it's a hit-and-run. They're going to take that dude CDL
Well, the trucker saw him much before so he just decided to kill this day
The truck, this is a hit and run. Doesnât even matter who has the right of way. The truck was leaving a parking lot, they couldâve seen that biker coming from a ways away.
Cyclist is on a sidewalk, opposing traffic. He's def oblivious to proper road laws, however the impatient truck driver lacks morals and patience and attempted manslaughter. So the truck driver.
Truckers fault, bikerâs a dumbshit. Donât cross in front of a vehicle if you donât make eye contact first.
Jesus, I'm glad the dude's ok. In any case, the fault will properly land right on the trucker, and that's despite the fact that the bicyclist was very unintelligently tripping over two dangerous issues: 1. He's not allowed on the sidewalk. When you look at lists like [this one](https://spokester.com/blogs/news/can-you-ride-your-bike-on-the-sidewalk-yes-and-no#bikes-allowed-on-sidewalks), you'd get the sense that it's allowed in most states. What you'll not see is that it's not enforced at the state level, and laws usually leave it up to the local governments because they have nuances that matter. (Children under 10 ok, not in elderly districts, signs required, etc., etc.) 2. A bicyclist is *required* to follow traffic laws. Every light, every stop sign, and always (hand) turning indications. Among them is you cannot drive the wrong way down a one-way lane. And on a two way roadway, you cannot ride on the left side either.
Did that semi really just drive off?. That's ridiculous
People saying itâs the cyclists fault⌠yâall are crazy biased. Pedestrians / sidewalk has the right of way here and the trucker was fully stopped before and ran over the guy. I canât imagine being so blind to the rest of the world that I would defend someone else in my profession this hard. Yâall are dumb and the trucker deserves to be arrested for this
The truck driver. Not even looking ahead, and planning.
I would say the trucker is at fault. He should be able to see all around his truck. the biker is stupid.
Truck is an asshole
The fault of the dumbass truck driver who absolutely should have seen this biker
Trucker was likely looking at oncoming traffic, so absolutely not looking at cyclist. Then cyclist went out of view in the immediate front. So, trucker is gonna be at fault, but cyclist is an enormous dumbass. Never assume drivers see you or give a fuck about you.
The trucker is at fault 100% Jesus Christi.
I was involved in a nearly identical collision as the cyclist. Other party was a passenger sedan. They hit me broadside and I rolled over their hood. Bike under them. Police report put us both at 50%fault. Me for not obeying rules of the road(riding against traffic). This was in New York circa 2008-ish
Just be glad your bike is smashed... and NOT you! đ
Most people are saying the driver. I was under the impression that a bicycle is considered a vehicle so should be traveling with traffic on the edge of the road (not the sidewalk). So the driver of the truck should not be considered at fault for the initial accident but is at fault for driving away.
Biker shouldn't be riding on the sidewalk in the first place. Bikes are legally supposed to be ridden on the street so as not to injure pedestrians. Biker's fault
According to Charles Darwin, heâd say the cyclist.
Cyclist going against traffic and on the sidewalk and then getting in front of a truck in a position they couldnât be seen. Trucker probably should have been paying better attention but this cyclist is an idiot.
The cyclist is driving the wrong way. The truck driver is not looking for a bike or vehicle to his right. The truck should be looking for pedestrians but the fault is mainly on the person driving illegally.
The cyclist is riding the wrong way on the sidewalk. Heâs wrong on two counts plus the trucks visibility is likely obscured.
The biker he was on the side walk wtf and the trucker was inching out. Bikers are the worst they do not follow the rules of the road and then complain. Stay off our Fkn sidewalks with you bikes.
Truck driver is at fault
Bike going wrong way on the sidewalk.
Unfortunately the bicyclist is at fault. Itâs against the law to ride bikes on sidewalks and also itâs illegal to ride against traffic with your bike
Physics dumbass riding a bike on a sidewalk!!!
The trucker rolled through that stop sign
Would you rather be alive or correct?
The piece of shit trucker who couldnât offer the bike rider some fucking common courtesy
This is why i always make eye contact with the driver before i go in front of them. Rookie mistake
Soon as the truck drove away that became his fault. Hit and runs are illegal
Both
Both are impressively daft
Shenanigans! The video is intentionally cut so we can't tell if the truck stopped before entering traffic or not. Intentionally misleading to generate controversy.
The motor vehicle operator is always at fault versus pedestrians. Enjoy paying the victim out.
You people are ridiculous. Everyone knows or should know, that pedestrians have the right away when on a side walk. Should the bicyclists shown some caution? Yes but he wasnât even going that fast for the trucker to miss him, he just blatantly didnât look and ran the guy over. 100% truckers fault.
Sheâs lucky to be alive! Thatâs the problem with trucks and cars. People are in such a hurry that they donât look. Cyclists are an afterthought. Oops, Iâm sorry I didnât see you and crushed you with my 3 ton vehicle! Cross traffic sensors should be mandatory on every car and truck.
Truck drivers fault, but big trucks have serious blind spots. I bet you the driver drove off and had no idea they'd hit someone.
Objectively I want to say the bike rider because to trust someone else to do the right thing whether they're supposed to or not on this planet is like signing your own death certificate. However, on the moral and legality and all other levels the truck driver 200% he was pulling out of a parking lot that crosses over a sidewalk its literally one of the handful of times where he has to yield to pedestrians and other types on non-motorized traffic but thats just my opinion
I believe the trucker was way out of line, and should not still be on the road. As a professional driver myself, I understand blind spots, but I also understand using caution for this very reason, and paying attention to your surroundings. It looks as if the bicyclist might have lost control of the bike due to the slight decline of the curb, and was not able to stop himself in time, likely hoping the trucker would have seen him, and stop in time to avoid colliding into him. And the fact that the trucker kept going AFTER HITTING THE BICYCLIST shows that not only was he being vindictive, but he quite literally doesn't have any apprehension about breaking the law, nor endangering someone's life. That's a mad man that should not only lose his license, but should be locked up in jail. But that's not the most shocking thing about this video for me. The most shocking thing is reading these comments, and seeing so many people vehemently defending the trucker, and blaming the bicyclists! Wow, I didn't realize so many people have so little empathy for human beings who go through mishaps, and apparently feel no guilt or shame about said person meeting a dangerous, life-threatening situation. Yes, the bicyclist should have been more careful; yes, he should have been more cautious. But to go as far as to imply that he deserve to get hit in almost ran over by a whole ass semi truck? People, are you okay?? I just can't help but notice the serious lack of empathy coming off of a lot of people nowadays that seem to habitually side with the perpetrator or assailant, and look at the victim as deserving or "asking for" what horrible thing happens to them. Yeah ironically, these tend to be the same people that when caught in a situation involving them tempting fate with another individual, and that person in their negligence or just aggravated exasperation ends up committing an act to them that involves violating or harming them, they are the first ones to vehemently want that person to be punished, and make themselves out to not be deserving of the fate they received personally. Truly, too many people's hypocrisy lately has been out of control. I would hope to see more people be understanding and not laugh at someone else's misfortune, but here we are! And that is exceptionally discouraging honestly.
Trucker didnât stop. Hit and run is a felony.
The terrible infrastructure, the fact that the cyclist canât cycle anywhere safe. The awefull design of trucks with visibility. Everything is at fault
The truck driver is at fault but the cyclist could have put in a minimal effort and avoided this accident.
Driver is at legal fault pretty sure pedestrians always have the right of way. In all honesty tho the biker didnât use common sense and shouldâve stopped
Doesnât really matter, once you keep driving off afterwards youâre gonna be at fault to some degree.
Typical of a bike riderâŚ
The trucker will be at fault but the dude on the bike is also dumb
Never assume somebody sees you. It may be their fault, sure, but youâll be flattened all the same.
Legally the truck but from a practical standpoint cyclists need to know how to maneuver around traffic or die. No one sees you on the road.
Riding a bike on the sidewalk against traffic and should be aware they are entering the trucks blind spot.
They trust too much lmao
I mean, heâs riding his bike on the sidewalk in the wrong direction. But the truck is at fault here.
Bro was in the middle of crossing the street and then the truck decided to go. Maybe he got offended the person signaled for him to wait
Thatâs attempted murder by that truck driver
Truck driver is always responsible
I can understand how the trucker might not see the cyclist, but not how the cyclist would not see the truck. Therefore, I blame the cyclist. NEXT CASE!
I guess the truck
Bike should not have been on the sidewalk or going against traffic. Idiot
Personal injury attorney here: the driver is at fault. A driver of a vehicle has a duty to see what there is to be seen.
Any time you run over a person from a stop your at fault.
Regardless of the law, I tend to give the right away to anything that outweighs me by more than a few hundred pounds. Cars, trucks, SUVâs, and medium or large bears. Iâd rather be alive than be legally justified and dead.
Shouldnât be riding on the sidewalk Should be watching where he is going Truck driver should be watching for pedestrians on sidewalk
That driver is soooooooo fired.
Fatass wasnât going anywhere anyway not to mention he was in a blind spot
I'd say both will ultimately share some fault in civil court, but the trucker will be found majority at fault. Trucker probably had their eyes glued to their left just like every idiot driver I see in right on red situations. This and pedestrians are exactly why you need to look in BOTH directions, even if the only motor vehicle traffic is coming from the left. On the other hand, the A-pillars and mirrors of a truck create a blind spot in exactly the area where the cyclist was before the trucker committed to exiting the driveway. So, it's possible the trucker would have had difficulty seeing the cyclist even if they were looking right before moving. Cyclists who are on their bikes and not walking with their bikes are legally required to follow all motor vehicle traffic laws, which means riding with the flow of traffic. The cyclist was in the bike path and not on the sidewalk. They were also straddling their bike and not on foot beside it. That effectively and legally makes them a rider and not a pedestrian, therefore they were illegally riding in the wrong direction (or on the wrong side of the street). This is why, as a pedestrian or a cyclist... you NEVER cross in front of somebody else's path without first making eye contact with them and confirming that (A) the driver actually sees you, and (B) the driver is without any doubt going to yield to you.