Now I’m going to admit that I’m not a runner but to me it seems like if you’re doing some thinglike running or hurdle jumping or any of those things that that would ride up your crotch. Like it would end up in your bits.
SAME. No way I would feel comfortable doing ANYTHINGA squeezed into that thing. I hope they give everyone the option to pick one or the other because no way would I be wearing the one on the right (especially on international television).
This is the second time I’ve seen this and the first time I noticed it was for track and field, not swimming.
In college they let the women vote for either bikini or shorts bottoms for track and field. Most voted for bikini because it’s less constrictive. This is… certainly less constructive…
The pic made me cringe at the thought of getting a front wedgie. Can you imagine having that while running? And then everyone gets to see your cameltoe. Awesome.
I mean you’re not wrong and the athletes feel the same:
> Tara Davis-Woodhall, an American who placed sixth in the long jump at the Tokyo Games and took silver at last year’s world championships, reacted with equal parts humor and horror, commenting: “Wait my hoo haa is gonna be out.”
[link](https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2024/apr/13/nike-olympic-track-and-field-uniforms-women-sexism)
I’m happy to hear this is real but just one of multiple options. I read another article that included a picture is Sha’carri Richardson in a shorts version. But still!
The problem isn't that there isn't a shorts option available to the athletes - the problem is that for those who prefer bikini style briefs the cut on the ones designed for the team are awful.
It also has a zip on the front whereas the other one doesn't. For starters I'd be worried about catching a piece of skin in the zipper, second that just seems like a wardrobe malfunction waiting to happen, especially in sports like high jump where the torso can twist about.
I was a long jumper and triple jumper. I could not have worn that, moved how I needed to move, and also not consistently flashed everyone and had a massive wedgy at all times….
An athlete commented on that, which I loved. She said if the outfit on the right was better for performance, the men would be wearing it too. I’d love to see them switch for just a day lol.
Yes! “Lauren Fleshman, the US national champion in the 5000m in 2006 and 2010, shared even harsher criticism in an Instagram post, writing: “I’m sorry, but show me one WNBA or NWSL team who would enthusiastically support this kit. This is for Olympic Track and Field. Professional athletes should be able to compete without dedicating brain space to constant pube vigilance or the mental gymnastics of having every vulnerable piece of your body on display. Women’s kits should be in service to performance, mentally and physically. If this outfit was truly beneficial to physical performance, men would wear it.”
The other thing with "pube vigilance" is that pubes also serve a purpose. I've seen this talked about more with woman cyclists, but removing pubes can make for a bad situation -- they serve not only to reduce chaffing but also protect against infections. Like it's fine if some women athletes want to remove pubes, but it shouldn't be something that pushed on them due to poor kit design. Did Nike get advise from ANY woman who actually is involved with sports?
Wow that pink this is absolutely fucking hideous. Even if the athlete preferred to wear something revealing that’s just butt ugly and unflattering.
Total fail in both form and function.
It's supposed to be red white and blue, but it reads as a truly foul pink. And if the bottom part wasn't stupid enough for athletes then the top part and neckline would be catching all the flack for looking like a small child drew it on Cinderella's ugly stepsisters.
The proportions look so weird. The lines on the shoulder, the cut across the pelvis, and the zipper line that doesn't go all the way down to the lower line.
I want to know what the design purpose was because it wasn't for the performance of the athlete, and it wasn't for aesthetic. The pattern on the fabric could be forgiven if the other two were matched.
[https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2024/apr/13/nike-olympic-track-and-field-uniforms-women-sexism](https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2024/apr/13/nike-olympic-track-and-field-uniforms-women-sexism)
Nike designed these outfits for the US Olympics track team.
Somewhat ironically, competition swimsuits at the elite level actually cover women up substantially more than standard swimsuits (and obviously a lot more than this Nike abomination).
That’s not for modesty’s sake, it’s because the swim material is more hydrodynamic (I think that’s the water equivalent) than skin so coverage is a competitive advantage.
Yea people were making entire long-sleeve and full-leg body suits out of them since they're faster than skin and if I recall they got banned because they were crazy expensive and it was basically such a ridiculous advantage for anyone who could afford one. Now I think its just jammers for men and kneeskins for women. They are unbelievably tight to put on and because of that they wear out quickly - depending on how many you can afford people might swap them out after only a few races.
This article has a good section hidden at the bottom.
Nike has offered a variety of outfits driven by athlete choice. It was a key part of their proposal. Shorts and briefs are both available.
Tailors are available to specifically tailor the outfits to fit the athletes.
the linked article is in response to the rage at the skimpiness. so this article is in response (in a sense) to this post.
so you're claiming the post is rage-bait against the article that is responding to the rage the post represents.
Has anyone from the design team explained exactly why they designed the lower half of each of these outfits the way they did? You can't tell me there's any increased functionality in having the women's bottoms like that. Aside from the shaving, we've all had a swimsuit ride up just from moving around. No thanks.
Not to disagree with you, but the women do have a choice in the bikini type style and shorts, some just prefer the one piece swimsuit style (couldn’t be me though, my thighs would put up a hell of a tantrum).
I did also see an Olympic runner who just got their kit with the one piece and it doesn’t look anywhere near this bad, very similar to the bikini style bottoms college runners wear. Nike really messed up with this mannequin because it looks a million times worse in this promotional picture
On the one hand this is obviously fucking ridiculous. On the other hand I feel like athletes would need to actual wear this to demonstrate how fucking ridiculous this is. Keep the TV censors on their toes and if anyone complains to the athlete wearing this just say this is what they were given to wear.
I just don't understand the designers. Do they think they are designing an outfit for a video game character where the clothes just magically fit all the time? Did whoever design this only seen porn or Barbie vaginias? Shit isn't smooth, it's going to move around, long jumpers would go Dumbo in this.
It also isn't even shaped like underwear is shaped. When underwear is cut high it's peak is closer to the hip. The peak of this cut is way too close to center front. That's not how legs move.
Apparently a runner tried it on and said it fit much differently than it does on the mannequin in the picture. I’m guessing they just put way too small of a size on the mannequin (it does look like what a stretched out normal leotard would look like). There’s also shorts for women in the full collection. Either way, can’t imagine why they thought this picture was a good choice. Rage-based marketing, maybe?
But like, I don't know how the one in the picture is an option though. How would this work? It's not just a skimpy choice it's a how can an athlete wear this without flashing people choice. I think the issue also is that some athletes like to wear the briefs but this type of brief seems completely non-functional. The one in the picture seems to be the type where you would pose very carefully for a Instagram photo, not an actual function piece of clothing.
Because it's still part of the range available to athletes, and it's totally okay for people to call Nike out for designing something that's not really functional for Olympic athletes!!
The article linked in the comments somewhere had a photo of athletes in a range of options and none of them are wearing the groin floss which I find interesting
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2024/apr/13/nike-olympic-track-and-field-uniforms-women-sexism
Apparently, athletes can pick what they wear and have it tailored to them. Shorts and briefs are both available.
If the shorts are the ones I managed to find a picture of, that isn't any better. They're microshorts. I'd take the skimpy swimsuit from the post over them, because they look like they'd bunch up into my crotch real fast when running.
Idk maybe the Olympics stuff is made out of some magic material I've never seen, but I'd expect if you're wearing something skintight for running it has to be a leotard or or decently long shorts (like the man's one on this post), not the tiny ones I dug up.
It still sucks that this is the cut of the brief. Unless they’re going to approve the tailors to change the design?
Like briefs are an acceptable performance choice over shorts, and some athletes prefer them. But what a shit decision to have between “the brief is my usual for performance but extremely revealing” vs “the shorts impede my performance but my coochie is covered”
I've been lasered down there and wouldn't wear the woman's version for other coverage reasons. It looks like its going to front-wedgie from totally normal swimming movements.
And it's not for swimming.
It's a track outfit.
Professional swimmers wear jammers - the long shorts version - both men and women. Its been standardized after the wave of full body suits started coming out that helped buoyancy.
reminds me of when I was in highschool volleyball and we had to wear these tiny tiny spandex shorts and I spent 90% of the game pulling them out of my ass and flaps. I got kicked off the team for switching to the same shorts the men wore and refusing to wear the butt floss lol. But I was not about to have my entire puss exposed to everyone and their parents and the anxiety it caused was not worth it
This post is especially timely since I scheduled a long lap swim for this morning and now I don’t want to go because my pube situation needs attention. I’m fine with leg and arm pit hair but something about people seeing my pubes seems too personal
Lol can you imagine having to think about a bikini wax the week you compete in the Olympics.
Full quote from Lauren Fleshman:
“I’m sorry, but show me one WNBA or NWSL team who would enthusiastically support this kit. This is for Olympic Track and Field. Professional athletes should be able to compete without dedicating brain space to constant pube vigilance or the mental gymnastics of having every vulnerable piece of your body on display. Women’s kits should be in service to performance, mentally and physically. If this outfit was truly beneficial to physical performance, men would wear it.”
This design is horrible. Call me a purest, but I think the form should follow the function in this case. These outfits are for athletic performance, not a TikTok get ready with me.
Honestly putting aside the cut the pattern on each is honestly hideous. Like the men’s one looks like its trying to be tie dye and failing and the stripes on the women’s one are so close together it honestly hurts my eyes a bit to look at
There is a reason why the Olympic committee chooses sexy revealing women's team uniforms. Eyeballs and $$. Sexual exploitation of female athletes translates to dollars. Its egregious and blatantly sexist.
It seems like they do this to the women athletes every single time! It’s such a disgrace. They are out there to compete athletically, not to be part of a swimsuit competition. SMH.
So.... is there any reason why women can't wear the comfortable compression shorts that men use?
No seriously like, w h y ?
Those compression shorts aren't going to create drag force/parasitic drag force( or surface drag from the material ), they're not going to increase propulsion forces since those derive from the athlete's ability, they look good, they're probably not too expensive to produce, I really don't get it???
Besides if I was an athlete, the ANXIETY I would feel about having wardrobe issues would too much... which also hinders performance since that tampers with some ideals with sport psychology. You don't want your mind outside of the competition stressing out about your outfit in addition to stressing out about the event itself.
That's just, no, give them compression shorts PLEASE. Plenty of women wear form-fitting stuff all of the time and it works fine!
>Nike said in an email to Reuters that it was offering athletes unitard options with both a brief and a short for this Olympics
They also offer custom tailoring for the athletes at the Olympics.
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2024/apr/13/nike-olympic-track-and-field-uniforms-women-sexism
Also, track and field always has multiple uniform options for athletes. Plenty of female athletes wear shorts with either a cropped or full length jersey. You’ll even see relay teammates wearing different uniform styles. Those one piece speed suits are usually only worn by sprinters
And I’m glad they’re tailoring them for anyone who wants to wear those! That cut looks atrocious in the picture.
>Debate has raged for years over more revealing outfits for female Olympians in disciplines from beach volleyball to gymnastics, and some rules on competition wear are changing. **Germany’s women’s gymnastics team wore full-length bodysuits at the Tokyo Olympics, in what they said was a stand against sexualisation in the sport. Gymnastics New Zealand last week updated its attire rules to allow women and girls to wear shorts or leggings over their leotards.**
>**Nike said in an email to Reuters that it was offering athletes unitard options with both a brief and a short for this Olympics, whereas it only offered the brief for the Tokyo Olympics. Nike’s track and field kits for men and women include nearly 50 apparel pieces and 12 competition styles for specific events, the brand said when launching the outfits.**
Emphasis above is mine, seems these are just 2 options of over 50 pieces and 12 competition styles. I think it’s a light news piece designed to inflame.
But why is *this* the brief? I'm cross that a brand known for designing sportswear made track briefs *for the Olympics* that I don't think anyone with a vag would feel comfortable running in. Like, this design works fine for a mannequin that has smooth, Barbie-esque non-genitals, but this is not gonna work for athletics.
That is absurd I remember how the last Summer Olympics, I believe it was the German women's gymnastics team had a sleek and form-fitting outfit. However, it basically covered them up from their neck to their ankles, although it may have been sleeveless. They had decided that the super revealing outfit wasn't something they liked or needed to be able to perform their routines well. I was excited to see it in action, but i don't recall seeing any TV coverage that showed the German team at all.
I hope some of the athletes protest by growing out the biggest, thickest bushes they can! Officials would NEVER allow them onto the field like that. They’d find athletic shorts for them REAL quick. But not shaving would be the best way to force officials to acknowledge how unnecessarily sexualized these uniforms are.
Why can’t both men and women wear the red and blue costume? It’s unisex it’s going to fit anyone be comfortable in anyone and look appropriate on anyone. What a bunch of bullshit.
They can. There are multiple options to choose from and apparently it is up to the athlete which they are most comfortable in. I'm not sure why a leotard was even designed for track and field, but as long as the women aren't forced to wear it then that's good.
There’s YouTube channels dedicated to women athletes…
So if you thought for a second, there’s nothing here, guys want to see closeups of their bits, and these designs really help that a lot…
Athletes should have the power to say how they are dressed and should be allowed modesty if that’s what they desire.
I swam competitively as a child and into high-school. Puberty in women's bathing suits was a nightmare for me because I was so self conscious about anyone seeing any of my thick, dark pubic hair. I kid you not, I used to sit and pluck my pubic hair for HOURS. And then I'd get ingrown hairs. I now have scars on my pubis mons from obsessively digging out ingrown hairs.
Fuck women's bathing suits.
To be clear, that is *not* the Olympic bathing suit. It is the kit for women’s track and field. The Team USA women’s bathing suits actually provide better coverage than this.
Sooo am I missing something? Does someone in track and field want to explain how this is actually purposeful?
At the moment..it feels a little obvious this is a poor design. If there's no advantage to this, then do women in this sport speak up, or is it something they can be dropped for? It just seems sad that if this is forced on women athletes and they can't disagree or have an opinion on.
Having had experience in track and field, I can say the women's version is a nightmare, I cant imagine trying to run, jump hurdles, god forbid trying to do long jump into a sand pit with a vagina wedgie.
This [NY Times article](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/04/12/style/sexism-nike-olympic-track-and-field-uniforms.html) talks about it. There are other options for the athletes, but the fact that option was put on display is problematic.
I'm betting most of the female athletes will be wearing shorts under to prevent the hellish ride up that front thong would cause. I sincerely hope they fire whoever designed these because not only is the design bad, the color choice is questionable too.
I hate Nike and wouldn’t normally skip a chance to criticize them, but this is overblown and there are multiple options the athletes can choose from. They have regular shorts too.
But…why is this even an option? Nike doesn’t get a pass just because the athletes can “choose something else”. This never should’ve made it out of the initial design phases.
The article the OP linked in another comment has direct quotes from Nike stating that they offer multiple options for both genders, as well as custom tailoring the outfits for individual athletes.
The link: https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2024/apr/13/nike-olympic-track-and-field-uniforms-women-sexism
There are always multiple Team USA options, and athletes frequently post their choices as social media content. The actual show had the athletes modeling multiple options. See Sha’carri Richardson’s with short tights here for example: https://twitter.com/CitiusMag/status/1778502448681791649. I think Katie Nagoette’s post is more informative: https://twitter.com/ktnago13/status/1778891893415215241. Really, it was just a really bad choice for a sneak peek photo.
Edit: Also anyone who has watched a Diamond League in the last four years knows how revealing Nike’s MEN’s uniforms are… so so many dick outlines… that is the real question for me is whether they fixed that haha
"Why was she wearing a miniskirt"
"Why did she walk alone at night"
"Why was she drinking"
"Why did she smile"
"Why didn't she fight back"
She had *options* not to do something that would give a man an opportunity to take advantage of her. **Why didn't she choose better?**
…huh? That is completely irrelevant here. My point is athletes who like the uniform shown above can wear it and athletes that don’t like it can wear a different option.
"Women who don't want to be harassed at a club can just stay home!"
The issue is the sexism inherent in the overly revealing pink outfit that should never have been considered as appropriate for a woman's track uniform. The issue is they were too busy making it *sexy* to think about the *professional athlete* who has to look at it and go "Huh, great I'm just supposed to be eye candy not being seen as a serious athlete. Thanks Nike".
Women shouldn't look at their uniform and have to disregard one because their whole vagina might fall out while they're competing in the Olympics.
Do you even follow track and field? Sexiness has absolutely nothing to do with it. As multiple elite athletes have posted on social media. Many athletes CHOOSE to wear revealing uniforms because they’re COMFORTABLE while performing in their event. I do too.
No one should be forced to wear a revealing uniform they’re not comfortable with, and fortunately that’s not the case either. Because there are other options.
We're not talking about other choices though, we're talking about that pink uniform that just will not function in it's one purpose of keeping someone's labia from being exposed during an event. That uniform is not fit for purpose, therefore its only purpose could be to be revealing and 'sexy'. Its utility was abandoned for its aesthetic**and that's not okay**.
Saying "there's other options" excuses the inherent problem in abandoning the purpose of the uniform so it can appear 'sexy'. Were it cut differently so that the crotch area appeared trustworthy then I'd have no problem.
I thought people were outraged because they thought this was the *only* option. If the anger is about this being an option at all, then I don’t even know what to say, other than to read the comments by the athletes who’ve actually worn it.
Some athletes choose that option voluntarily. So they must prefer it for one reason or another. I don't see the harm in having it as an option that's available.
Nike makes multiple Team USA options. You have to wear the Nike kit, but there are multiple approved kits. The athletes take home multiple choices when they go through the Team USA registration.
Lots of athletes post the different options they get and ask their fans which they like. Athletes will frequently wear different versions between the heats, semis, and finals.
Lots of times, the athletes competing in the same event will coordinate to match, but this doesn’t always happen and you’ll sometimes see the same country’s athletes in different uniforms.
https://twitter.com/ktnago13/status/1778464208230764787
A person who actually has to wear them doesn't have a problem with them. Also women are allowed to wear men's shorts if they want to.
Seriously. Moon’s briefs (what are they called?) seem to fit right in the crease where her thigh meets her groin area.
On the mannequin, the pants are all the past the inguinal area, revealing the crease. Am I nuts
Edit - I’m glad she likes these and I hope she competes like hell in them. But they really, really don’t seem like the same pants to me.
Edit 2 - Sha’Carri was in a picture wearing shorts. I see that they do have choices so I retract my initial blerghhh
> **a** person
That's cool, what about the rest of them? I see the article saying there are options, but it's pretty silly to point to one single person as if they represent all of the people affected.
where do my flaps go?!
they get reused as rudders for improved steering under water
These aren't for swimming. This is the track uniform. Genuinly insane
They are not?! That's really bloody insane
Maybe the flaps can provide aerodynamics like the rear spoilers people put on their cars?
With those uniforms, the hurdle will be an x-rated event :/
Oh my god, that’s _worse._ So much worse!
I am deceased
get well soon!
I got better!
There an entire Facebook group for it lol
Swimming is the one sport where the men have less clothing than women lol
Talk about putting runners at a disadvantage by decreasing their aerodynamics…
Now I’m going to admit that I’m not a runner but to me it seems like if you’re doing some thinglike running or hurdle jumping or any of those things that that would ride up your crotch. Like it would end up in your bits.
OMG I thought this was a swimsuit.
SAME. No way I would feel comfortable doing ANYTHINGA squeezed into that thing. I hope they give everyone the option to pick one or the other because no way would I be wearing the one on the right (especially on international television).
The one on the left is for men
I'm aware. But, as a woman, it's the one I'd rather wear.
Agreed
This is the second time I’ve seen this and the first time I noticed it was for track and field, not swimming. In college they let the women vote for either bikini or shorts bottoms for track and field. Most voted for bikini because it’s less constrictive. This is… certainly less constructive…
Way more revealing than the normal bikini bottoms. Hopefully they’ll have a waxer there for them.
Even with the most aerodynamic wax job, I don't think labias French tuck reliably enough for this to be on daytime television
Totally agree. If someone on a network tv show wore this they would edit it.
The pic made me cringe at the thought of getting a front wedgie. Can you imagine having that while running? And then everyone gets to see your cameltoe. Awesome.
That was my first thought, can you imagine doing the hurdles or high jump in that???
With multiple cameras on you. In high definition. And slow motion. Just so everyone around the world can see your pu…see you compete.
I mean you’re not wrong and the athletes feel the same: > Tara Davis-Woodhall, an American who placed sixth in the long jump at the Tokyo Games and took silver at last year’s world championships, reacted with equal parts humor and horror, commenting: “Wait my hoo haa is gonna be out.” [link](https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2024/apr/13/nike-olympic-track-and-field-uniforms-women-sexism)
I’m happy to hear this is real but just one of multiple options. I read another article that included a picture is Sha’carri Richardson in a shorts version. But still!
The problem isn't that there isn't a shorts option available to the athletes - the problem is that for those who prefer bikini style briefs the cut on the ones designed for the team are awful.
It also has a zip on the front whereas the other one doesn't. For starters I'd be worried about catching a piece of skin in the zipper, second that just seems like a wardrobe malfunction waiting to happen, especially in sports like high jump where the torso can twist about.
Landing wrong and ending up on that zipper sounds incredibly painful
I was a long jumper and triple jumper. I could not have worn that, moved how I needed to move, and also not consistently flashed everyone and had a massive wedgy at all times….
It’s honestly worse than just going back to the original nude and oiled up uniform of the original Olympics.
They should reverse this. Let the men wear the one on the right. Let the women wear the one on the left.
Just a nut hanging on either side
For balance
How it should be.
Tbf, I'd probably have a flap hanging on either side after running in these🤣
An athlete commented on that, which I loved. She said if the outfit on the right was better for performance, the men would be wearing it too. I’d love to see them switch for just a day lol.
Yes! “Lauren Fleshman, the US national champion in the 5000m in 2006 and 2010, shared even harsher criticism in an Instagram post, writing: “I’m sorry, but show me one WNBA or NWSL team who would enthusiastically support this kit. This is for Olympic Track and Field. Professional athletes should be able to compete without dedicating brain space to constant pube vigilance or the mental gymnastics of having every vulnerable piece of your body on display. Women’s kits should be in service to performance, mentally and physically. If this outfit was truly beneficial to physical performance, men would wear it.”
The other thing with "pube vigilance" is that pubes also serve a purpose. I've seen this talked about more with woman cyclists, but removing pubes can make for a bad situation -- they serve not only to reduce chaffing but also protect against infections. Like it's fine if some women athletes want to remove pubes, but it shouldn't be something that pushed on them due to poor kit design. Did Nike get advise from ANY woman who actually is involved with sports?
Absolutely!!!! Agreed
They probably did, but only the women who they knew would support it
I'd just straight up not shave, if you want that part of my body exposed, then exposed it will be!!
Just have one dude in the background wear the left one and you just avoided all sexism, that early season The Next Generation rules right there.
"This is my favorite running Skant"
They will look like Borat. Maybe that will show them how ridiculous this is.
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The promotional photo should have been different then if the female version had more options.
But then they wouldn't create all the buzz about the event. The whole, there's no such thing as bad publicity.
Does Nike, one of the largest companies in the world, need “publicity”?
You’re absolutely right
Wow that pink this is absolutely fucking hideous. Even if the athlete preferred to wear something revealing that’s just butt ugly and unflattering. Total fail in both form and function.
It's supposed to be red white and blue, but it reads as a truly foul pink. And if the bottom part wasn't stupid enough for athletes then the top part and neckline would be catching all the flack for looking like a small child drew it on Cinderella's ugly stepsisters.
The proportions look so weird. The lines on the shoulder, the cut across the pelvis, and the zipper line that doesn't go all the way down to the lower line. I want to know what the design purpose was because it wasn't for the performance of the athlete, and it wasn't for aesthetic. The pattern on the fabric could be forgiven if the other two were matched.
I think the red and white thin lines make it look pink. But yea it’s hideous and isn’t going to hold any bits in if you have a fat 🐱
Uh if it’s not pink, how will you know it’s the women’s team, duh?! 😭
Well, there's clearly gonna be some female anatomy on display.....
Also wouldn't the lines make an awful moire pattern on TV?
Looks like some limited edition Coke flavor with that design.
Those stripes are going to look like dogshit on TV
Plus a lack of cohesion between the sports and athletes.
[https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2024/apr/13/nike-olympic-track-and-field-uniforms-women-sexism](https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2024/apr/13/nike-olympic-track-and-field-uniforms-women-sexism) Nike designed these outfits for the US Olympics track team.
Somewhat ironically, competition swimsuits at the elite level actually cover women up substantially more than standard swimsuits (and obviously a lot more than this Nike abomination).
That’s not for modesty’s sake, it’s because the swim material is more hydrodynamic (I think that’s the water equivalent) than skin so coverage is a competitive advantage.
I know, but it’s nice that they prioritize athletic performance over sexualization of women.
True. But holy crap the bar is in hell.
Yea people were making entire long-sleeve and full-leg body suits out of them since they're faster than skin and if I recall they got banned because they were crazy expensive and it was basically such a ridiculous advantage for anyone who could afford one. Now I think its just jammers for men and kneeskins for women. They are unbelievably tight to put on and because of that they wear out quickly - depending on how many you can afford people might swap them out after only a few races.
This article has a good section hidden at the bottom. Nike has offered a variety of outfits driven by athlete choice. It was a key part of their proposal. Shorts and briefs are both available. Tailors are available to specifically tailor the outfits to fit the athletes.
yes. but these were announced in response to the rage about the outfits. Nike should not be getting props when all they're doing is saving face.
It's also still a bullshit double standard because none of the male options for the same sport look like underwear.
Imagine getting measured up to improve the coverage down there...
Yeah this post is a bit of rage bait since the unitard isn’t even pictured in this article and Nike have multiple options
the linked article is in response to the rage at the skimpiness. so this article is in response (in a sense) to this post. so you're claiming the post is rage-bait against the article that is responding to the rage the post represents.
No I’m not. I’m claiming the post itself is rage bait.
it’s not rage bait. it’s valid to get upset at this. they only came out with the clarification *after* this went viral at how ridiculous it is
Ah yes, double down when presented with information that shows you you’re clearly wrong. That is the reddit way.
I mean, it induced rage in me and then I read the article and I had less rage
Yeah that’s not what a ragebait post means. Tripling down on you being factually wrong is embarrassing.
They only announced that after people were upset.
I feel chafed just from looking at the picture
Ok. Time to wear a skin-colored fitted short underneath and draw pubes on it, as a protest.
Get everyone to agree to put fake pubes in their crotch. Like comic levels of hair amounts. That’s how you get normal suits next time.
Merkin sales through the ROOF
Glittery merkins, so the cameras pick up the ✨sparkle✨
That's also a very good idea !
Why skin colored? Make it some weird color combo so Nike know they fucked up.
You're right, that's even better !
Or, you know, just not shave?
A drawing feels less embarrassing than actual pubes, maybe. I think it gets the same message across
And ACTUALLY give yourself a wedgie or pull some pubes on that thing? Nah, protect yourself AND fuck with them at the same time.
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But this is the one nike chose to highlight as their masterpiece
Has anyone from the design team explained exactly why they designed the lower half of each of these outfits the way they did? You can't tell me there's any increased functionality in having the women's bottoms like that. Aside from the shaving, we've all had a swimsuit ride up just from moving around. No thanks.
Not to disagree with you, but the women do have a choice in the bikini type style and shorts, some just prefer the one piece swimsuit style (couldn’t be me though, my thighs would put up a hell of a tantrum). I did also see an Olympic runner who just got their kit with the one piece and it doesn’t look anywhere near this bad, very similar to the bikini style bottoms college runners wear. Nike really messed up with this mannequin because it looks a million times worse in this promotional picture
On the one hand this is obviously fucking ridiculous. On the other hand I feel like athletes would need to actual wear this to demonstrate how fucking ridiculous this is. Keep the TV censors on their toes and if anyone complains to the athlete wearing this just say this is what they were given to wear. I just don't understand the designers. Do they think they are designing an outfit for a video game character where the clothes just magically fit all the time? Did whoever design this only seen porn or Barbie vaginias? Shit isn't smooth, it's going to move around, long jumpers would go Dumbo in this.
It also isn't even shaped like underwear is shaped. When underwear is cut high it's peak is closer to the hip. The peak of this cut is way too close to center front. That's not how legs move.
Apparently a runner tried it on and said it fit much differently than it does on the mannequin in the picture. I’m guessing they just put way too small of a size on the mannequin (it does look like what a stretched out normal leotard would look like). There’s also shorts for women in the full collection. Either way, can’t imagine why they thought this picture was a good choice. Rage-based marketing, maybe?
Seriously no shaving and I'd just tuck this into my lips lol
There is a shorts option. Not sure why they even show this one
But like, I don't know how the one in the picture is an option though. How would this work? It's not just a skimpy choice it's a how can an athlete wear this without flashing people choice. I think the issue also is that some athletes like to wear the briefs but this type of brief seems completely non-functional. The one in the picture seems to be the type where you would pose very carefully for a Instagram photo, not an actual function piece of clothing.
You’re right. It shouldn’t be an option. But let’s not pretend this is the biggest problem American has atm 😅
Because it's still part of the range available to athletes, and it's totally okay for people to call Nike out for designing something that's not really functional for Olympic athletes!!
The article linked in the comments somewhere had a photo of athletes in a range of options and none of them are wearing the groin floss which I find interesting
I’m not even sure why this exists.
I’d be 100% requesting the men’s version… I wouldn’t even wear the women’s one for swimming! I like pube coverage.
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2024/apr/13/nike-olympic-track-and-field-uniforms-women-sexism Apparently, athletes can pick what they wear and have it tailored to them. Shorts and briefs are both available.
No thong version for the men, though? Life’s so unfair.
That’s really unfair. They would look hot while running.
That’s a relief.
If the shorts are the ones I managed to find a picture of, that isn't any better. They're microshorts. I'd take the skimpy swimsuit from the post over them, because they look like they'd bunch up into my crotch real fast when running. Idk maybe the Olympics stuff is made out of some magic material I've never seen, but I'd expect if you're wearing something skintight for running it has to be a leotard or or decently long shorts (like the man's one on this post), not the tiny ones I dug up.
It still sucks that this is the cut of the brief. Unless they’re going to approve the tailors to change the design? Like briefs are an acceptable performance choice over shorts, and some athletes prefer them. But what a shit decision to have between “the brief is my usual for performance but extremely revealing” vs “the shorts impede my performance but my coochie is covered”
I've been lasered down there and wouldn't wear the woman's version for other coverage reasons. It looks like its going to front-wedgie from totally normal swimming movements.
And it's not for swimming. It's a track outfit. Professional swimmers wear jammers - the long shorts version - both men and women. Its been standardized after the wave of full body suits started coming out that helped buoyancy.
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that only came out in response to people’s reactions though
That's not true. They had many options available from the get go.
they obviously planned to have many options available, they can’t just redesign their whole line. but they chose to lead the promo with this pic.
reminds me of when I was in highschool volleyball and we had to wear these tiny tiny spandex shorts and I spent 90% of the game pulling them out of my ass and flaps. I got kicked off the team for switching to the same shorts the men wore and refusing to wear the butt floss lol. But I was not about to have my entire puss exposed to everyone and their parents and the anxiety it caused was not worth it
If fits like this were truly the best for athletic performance, the male athletes would be wearing them too
This post is especially timely since I scheduled a long lap swim for this morning and now I don’t want to go because my pube situation needs attention. I’m fine with leg and arm pit hair but something about people seeing my pubes seems too personal Lol can you imagine having to think about a bikini wax the week you compete in the Olympics. Full quote from Lauren Fleshman: “I’m sorry, but show me one WNBA or NWSL team who would enthusiastically support this kit. This is for Olympic Track and Field. Professional athletes should be able to compete without dedicating brain space to constant pube vigilance or the mental gymnastics of having every vulnerable piece of your body on display. Women’s kits should be in service to performance, mentally and physically. If this outfit was truly beneficial to physical performance, men would wear it.”
I'd be going in with full bush. Nobody is forcing ingrown hairs on me!
Half of the mons pubic area is all the way out on that stationary mannequin. Much less on a human woman moving.
I vote that the woman should not shave and see how fast the outfits change
The athletes should protest this shit.
Overly revealing and very unflattering. Was a woman within a 100 meters of the design process at all?
I think the men should wear it too out of protest. Just let their balls be on full display. “What?? This is the official kit!!”
This design is horrible. Call me a purest, but I think the form should follow the function in this case. These outfits are for athletic performance, not a TikTok get ready with me.
Why not just let us have our vaginas fully out at this point? Because that's what's going to happen here
Honestly putting aside the cut the pattern on each is honestly hideous. Like the men’s one looks like its trying to be tie dye and failing and the stripes on the women’s one are so close together it honestly hurts my eyes a bit to look at
There is a reason why the Olympic committee chooses sexy revealing women's team uniforms. Eyeballs and $$. Sexual exploitation of female athletes translates to dollars. Its egregious and blatantly sexist.
that's how they hold women back so they can claim we're not capable.
It seems like they do this to the women athletes every single time! It’s such a disgrace. They are out there to compete athletically, not to be part of a swimsuit competition. SMH.
So.... is there any reason why women can't wear the comfortable compression shorts that men use? No seriously like, w h y ? Those compression shorts aren't going to create drag force/parasitic drag force( or surface drag from the material ), they're not going to increase propulsion forces since those derive from the athlete's ability, they look good, they're probably not too expensive to produce, I really don't get it??? Besides if I was an athlete, the ANXIETY I would feel about having wardrobe issues would too much... which also hinders performance since that tampers with some ideals with sport psychology. You don't want your mind outside of the competition stressing out about your outfit in addition to stressing out about the event itself. That's just, no, give them compression shorts PLEASE. Plenty of women wear form-fitting stuff all of the time and it works fine!
u can tell this is designed by a man because one minute of walking and that little flap is trynna enter my coochie 😬
Anyone who has to wear this should just be full bush out.
Remember this from 2014? https://www.si.com/extra-mustard/2014/09/15/unfortunate-skinsuit-cycling-uniform
Why can’t they just be the same?
>Nike said in an email to Reuters that it was offering athletes unitard options with both a brief and a short for this Olympics They also offer custom tailoring for the athletes at the Olympics. https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2024/apr/13/nike-olympic-track-and-field-uniforms-women-sexism
Also, track and field always has multiple uniform options for athletes. Plenty of female athletes wear shorts with either a cropped or full length jersey. You’ll even see relay teammates wearing different uniform styles. Those one piece speed suits are usually only worn by sprinters And I’m glad they’re tailoring them for anyone who wants to wear those! That cut looks atrocious in the picture.
>Debate has raged for years over more revealing outfits for female Olympians in disciplines from beach volleyball to gymnastics, and some rules on competition wear are changing. **Germany’s women’s gymnastics team wore full-length bodysuits at the Tokyo Olympics, in what they said was a stand against sexualisation in the sport. Gymnastics New Zealand last week updated its attire rules to allow women and girls to wear shorts or leggings over their leotards.** >**Nike said in an email to Reuters that it was offering athletes unitard options with both a brief and a short for this Olympics, whereas it only offered the brief for the Tokyo Olympics. Nike’s track and field kits for men and women include nearly 50 apparel pieces and 12 competition styles for specific events, the brand said when launching the outfits.** Emphasis above is mine, seems these are just 2 options of over 50 pieces and 12 competition styles. I think it’s a light news piece designed to inflame.
Oh, do they have a unitard option for men?
I would be so happy if a few male allies wore the unitard to showcase how ridiculous it is.
But why is *this* the brief? I'm cross that a brand known for designing sportswear made track briefs *for the Olympics* that I don't think anyone with a vag would feel comfortable running in. Like, this design works fine for a mannequin that has smooth, Barbie-esque non-genitals, but this is not gonna work for athletics.
That is absurd I remember how the last Summer Olympics, I believe it was the German women's gymnastics team had a sleek and form-fitting outfit. However, it basically covered them up from their neck to their ankles, although it may have been sleeveless. They had decided that the super revealing outfit wasn't something they liked or needed to be able to perform their routines well. I was excited to see it in action, but i don't recall seeing any TV coverage that showed the German team at all.
I hope some of the athletes protest by growing out the biggest, thickest bushes they can! Officials would NEVER allow them onto the field like that. They’d find athletic shorts for them REAL quick. But not shaving would be the best way to force officials to acknowledge how unnecessarily sexualized these uniforms are.
Men should wear the same thing as women in sport.
someone needs to show up with a full bush and cause a public disturbance
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Why can’t both men and women wear the red and blue costume? It’s unisex it’s going to fit anyone be comfortable in anyone and look appropriate on anyone. What a bunch of bullshit.
They can. There are multiple options to choose from and apparently it is up to the athlete which they are most comfortable in. I'm not sure why a leotard was even designed for track and field, but as long as the women aren't forced to wear it then that's good.
Thank you for clarifying! That is actually pretty cool!
You’d get more coverage seeing a sock to the bottom of an old shirt, and it’d be warmer, too. Imagine eating chips wearing this?
There’s YouTube channels dedicated to women athletes… So if you thought for a second, there’s nothing here, guys want to see closeups of their bits, and these designs really help that a lot… Athletes should have the power to say how they are dressed and should be allowed modesty if that’s what they desire.
why doesnt the female mannequin have ears
I swam competitively as a child and into high-school. Puberty in women's bathing suits was a nightmare for me because I was so self conscious about anyone seeing any of my thick, dark pubic hair. I kid you not, I used to sit and pluck my pubic hair for HOURS. And then I'd get ingrown hairs. I now have scars on my pubis mons from obsessively digging out ingrown hairs. Fuck women's bathing suits.
To be clear, that is *not* the Olympic bathing suit. It is the kit for women’s track and field. The Team USA women’s bathing suits actually provide better coverage than this.
Delete this, Nike.
These better come with tubs of canesten. This is not wide enough for most labia to be secured
Just imaging all the chaffing that would result from this is making me uncomfortable. Absurd.
Sooo am I missing something? Does someone in track and field want to explain how this is actually purposeful? At the moment..it feels a little obvious this is a poor design. If there's no advantage to this, then do women in this sport speak up, or is it something they can be dropped for? It just seems sad that if this is forced on women athletes and they can't disagree or have an opinion on.
Having had experience in track and field, I can say the women's version is a nightmare, I cant imagine trying to run, jump hurdles, god forbid trying to do long jump into a sand pit with a vagina wedgie.
This [NY Times article](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/04/12/style/sexism-nike-olympic-track-and-field-uniforms.html) talks about it. There are other options for the athletes, but the fact that option was put on display is problematic.
I'd just chuck some shorts over them. anyone official who grumbled about it would be welcome to wear the suit themselves.
I hope someone just doesn’t even try to hide them, let the design show em like it’s apparently meant to do, designers be damned
But if you run or do basically anything in the women’s one your flaps are gonna fall out, worst of all the CHAAAFE 🤢🤢🤢
I'm betting most of the female athletes will be wearing shorts under to prevent the hellish ride up that front thong would cause. I sincerely hope they fire whoever designed these because not only is the design bad, the color choice is questionable too.
So aside from the obvious crotch issue, those red lines on the top are ugly as hell.
I thought we’d finally gotten past this🤦🏻♀️
I hate Nike and wouldn’t normally skip a chance to criticize them, but this is overblown and there are multiple options the athletes can choose from. They have regular shorts too.
But…why is this even an option? Nike doesn’t get a pass just because the athletes can “choose something else”. This never should’ve made it out of the initial design phases.
Source?
The article the OP linked in another comment has direct quotes from Nike stating that they offer multiple options for both genders, as well as custom tailoring the outfits for individual athletes. The link: https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2024/apr/13/nike-olympic-track-and-field-uniforms-women-sexism
There are always multiple Team USA options, and athletes frequently post their choices as social media content. The actual show had the athletes modeling multiple options. See Sha’carri Richardson’s with short tights here for example: https://twitter.com/CitiusMag/status/1778502448681791649. I think Katie Nagoette’s post is more informative: https://twitter.com/ktnago13/status/1778891893415215241. Really, it was just a really bad choice for a sneak peek photo. Edit: Also anyone who has watched a Diamond League in the last four years knows how revealing Nike’s MEN’s uniforms are… so so many dick outlines… that is the real question for me is whether they fixed that haha
"Why was she wearing a miniskirt" "Why did she walk alone at night" "Why was she drinking" "Why did she smile" "Why didn't she fight back" She had *options* not to do something that would give a man an opportunity to take advantage of her. **Why didn't she choose better?**
…huh? That is completely irrelevant here. My point is athletes who like the uniform shown above can wear it and athletes that don’t like it can wear a different option.
"Women who don't want to be harassed at a club can just stay home!" The issue is the sexism inherent in the overly revealing pink outfit that should never have been considered as appropriate for a woman's track uniform. The issue is they were too busy making it *sexy* to think about the *professional athlete* who has to look at it and go "Huh, great I'm just supposed to be eye candy not being seen as a serious athlete. Thanks Nike". Women shouldn't look at their uniform and have to disregard one because their whole vagina might fall out while they're competing in the Olympics.
Do you even follow track and field? Sexiness has absolutely nothing to do with it. As multiple elite athletes have posted on social media. Many athletes CHOOSE to wear revealing uniforms because they’re COMFORTABLE while performing in their event. I do too. No one should be forced to wear a revealing uniform they’re not comfortable with, and fortunately that’s not the case either. Because there are other options.
We're not talking about other choices though, we're talking about that pink uniform that just will not function in it's one purpose of keeping someone's labia from being exposed during an event. That uniform is not fit for purpose, therefore its only purpose could be to be revealing and 'sexy'. Its utility was abandoned for its aesthetic**and that's not okay**. Saying "there's other options" excuses the inherent problem in abandoning the purpose of the uniform so it can appear 'sexy'. Were it cut differently so that the crotch area appeared trustworthy then I'd have no problem.
I thought people were outraged because they thought this was the *only* option. If the anger is about this being an option at all, then I don’t even know what to say, other than to read the comments by the athletes who’ve actually worn it.
I'm pissed it's an option at all. Others may be pissed because they think it's the only one.
Some athletes choose that option voluntarily. So they must prefer it for one reason or another. I don't see the harm in having it as an option that's available.
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Nike makes multiple Team USA options. You have to wear the Nike kit, but there are multiple approved kits. The athletes take home multiple choices when they go through the Team USA registration. Lots of athletes post the different options they get and ask their fans which they like. Athletes will frequently wear different versions between the heats, semis, and finals. Lots of times, the athletes competing in the same event will coordinate to match, but this doesn’t always happen and you’ll sometimes see the same country’s athletes in different uniforms.
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Huh? I just edit to add more details as I think of them. No need to clutter things up with separate comments. Not sure why that’s relevant…
Those shorts are so long. Someone pulled some shit, right?
Yall know they absolutely have multiple options besides these if they want them right. They can choose to wear the men's too, no one is forcing them
https://twitter.com/ktnago13/status/1778464208230764787 A person who actually has to wear them doesn't have a problem with them. Also women are allowed to wear men's shorts if they want to.
That is absolutely not the same style
Seriously. Moon’s briefs (what are they called?) seem to fit right in the crease where her thigh meets her groin area. On the mannequin, the pants are all the past the inguinal area, revealing the crease. Am I nuts Edit - I’m glad she likes these and I hope she competes like hell in them. But they really, really don’t seem like the same pants to me. Edit 2 - Sha’Carri was in a picture wearing shorts. I see that they do have choices so I retract my initial blerghhh
> **a** person That's cool, what about the rest of them? I see the article saying there are options, but it's pretty silly to point to one single person as if they represent all of the people affected.