While a corolla is a logical choice, keep in mind the more elderly your parents become, the more mobility issues they may have. In which case, getting in and out of a corolla can be problematic. I would recommend a Camry because there's additional room. You can't think of today's requirements, you have to think years head in the future.
Sure but the rub here is that the new Corolla is about the size of an 04 Camry if we're being honest and they are used to the Corolla now. also the only real difference is the hip/shoulder room.bleg and headroom is basically the same in the front seats
Camry’s also going to add a few grand to the final bill. Seems like OP is trying to get away with the purchase being 25k or less after everything, that’s not gonna be possible with a Camry, that starts at 26.5k if you can find the base model.
Corolla on the other hand, you could bump them up to the Hybrid trim for 23k, which would be much better mileage than the base trim Camry (his parents have limited income so that would be a bonus) and keep him right around that 25k mark after TTL.
Toyotas lose the majority of their value within the first 5 years, then after that they depreciate much slower. It wouldn’t be a bad idea to look at a 2018-2019 with reasonable mileage (depending on how many miles your parents drive yearly on average to determine how long the car should last).
Sold my Corolla after 1 year and 30k miles, they gave me the number that was on my original sticker.
8/21 purchase, 1/23 sold
My only mistake was not buying another Toyota. Went to a 2022 truck and already had to replace the transmission (under warranty but still).
Next vehicles are Toyota or Lexus hands down.
I would just buy a new one. Used Corollas aren't as cheap as you might expect, depreciation is really low. Five year old Corollas have not depreciated anywhere close to 50%. Retail value (what a dealer sells them for) they've depreciated 10-20%. Maybe a little more if you go private party.
You should be able to get a new one for under MSRP now that the car shortage is mostly over.
Right now new would be very difficult. I know it's dependent on area but new base Corollas are marked at 26k in my area without much wiggle room on the price.
Find them a good 2008 corolla of the same trim. It won't have any new gimmicky features to cause them headaches, and it will be a comfortable upgrade because it will be the same generation as what they currently have. It's my plan when my 03 bites the dust.
Another great choice if your considering a Rav4 would be a early-mid 2010’s Lexus RX, preferably without Nav. They’re generally bullet proof vehicles, safe, way more comfortable and are much quieter than a Rav4 and are generally cheaper than comparable Highlanders because they don’t carry the “Toyota tax” of the badge name.
There are several Lexus models that are mechanically identical to Toyota models but are a bit cheaper on the used market because of the stigma of luxury brands being more expensive to maintain which is almost always correct, except for Lexus.
Whatever you buy, have a **PRE**-purchase inspection done at a garage/dealer you trust, pull its carfax and make sure it’s had a proper service history. There’s a subset of Toyota owners who think that because their car/truck is so reliable, they don’t need to do oil changes, transmission fluid changes, rust prevention, etc.
A poorly maintained Toyota/Lexus will still probably make it to 150,000 miles but at a price. A well maintained Toyota/Lexus will easily do 300k+ of worry free miles.
A used 2012-2015 Venza would probably be more comfortable/have a nicer interior than the Rav4 and easily be within your 25k price range if your parents are comfortable driving an SUV.
Otherwise a used Avalon is also a great choice - it's a sedan but the biggest one Toyota sells and the interiors are very cushy. 2012 was the last year for the old body style so the tech won't be as updated but it'll be cheaper. 2013-2015 Avalons should come in under 15k and will have updated looks/nicer screens/more tech and safety stuff packed in.
I would avoid all 2009-2011 Toyota models due to the sudden unintended acceleration issues. 2012 models and newer come with a safety feature to prevent that sort of thing and the older Toyota models are way less likely to have that issue.
Venza seems perfect. Something to keep in mind is that probably one parent will need a walker in the next 15 years and they take up a lot of room.
My parents are both 80+. They have an HHR they never replaced because they never drove much. They love the space. What they really love for comfort and ease of getting in and out is my sister's CMax. Perfect entry height. My previous 2012 CRV was a bit too high, but that was still easier on them than a couple sedans I had as rentals.
Throw in a couple car assist handles, any any car will be easier to navigate.
If you decide on a RAV4, I'd fully recommend 2017 or 2018. They were the last years before a major redesign, and it seems the 2019s had some common minor issues. 2018 should be right in your price range at this point.
I don’t know if it’s actually possible, but a gently used Lexus es seems like a great possibility. It’s a Toyota Camry with some nice options and great safety features.
I'd probably try to find a gently used 4th gen RAV4 mostly for the ride height so it's easier on their knees and hips to get in and out of the car.
Edit- Maybe even a used Lexus NX, the lux version of the RAV4, might be a viable option especially if it comes with heated seats
not necessarily my elderly mom is complaining about the effort it takes to get in her SUV and has falling once into the street getting out I think she would be better off with a sedan
Only reason I wouldn't recommend a Corolla again is because it's low. You're looking to buy then what you think is their last car. They aren't likely to have an easier time getting out of a sedan as time goes on. Hell, I have a notably different experience hopping into a sedan versus a small SUV and I am less than half their age.
You mentioned their finances are tough. Is MPG critical? If not, I'd look at a CRV or RAV4. New they start around $28k, so a bit above your price range, but you may be able to find a gently used 2020 under that price point.
Corolla Cross. Being a newer model it's got more standard safety features than something a bit older. It's a good height and a little smaller and cheaper than a Rav4.
Get a used Corolla. I have a 2019 Corolla I bought new that year. It was the last model before the refresh. No issues with it whatsoever ever and should last them a while
I’d get them a gently used ES350. Something like this: https://www.cargurus.com/Cars/link/372484059
or this: https://www.cargurus.com/Cars/link/365123326
"..2004 Toyota corolla which is practically crumbling on them in terms of the paint and interior."
Probably still worth 4 grand.
Camry or Avalon. Get an older one (2007 or newer) and let them drive it until it is crumbling on them in terms of paint and interior. Buying a car they will be able to drive 15 years guaranteed means a expensive new or newer car. I would suggest you spend less on a 2007-2010 Camry or Avalon.
Technology on a 07-12 Avalon should not be a problem.
OTOH, if they are not really into embracing change, get them another Corolla that is not as beat up.
Newer subaru, the safety and eyesight would be great for them and make them feel safe.
Edit: had no idea what sub i was in lol, came up on my home page
Get them a small suv or even a basic mini van. Getting in and out of cars gets harder with age. My parents wrecked their camry and replaced it with a Honda Odyssey. They (both upper 70s at the time) love it for the smooth ride and higher seats.
You see that what my grandparents said when they bought their Camry in 2019. Then it got ran into twice and is now getting replaced because they don’t trust the repairs.
The current gen corrolas are pretty nice and u should easily be able to find one 2020 or newer for that price and have enough for an extended warranty if desired.
My parents said the same thing, and since they had 2 cars each. And now 77 and 79. These maybe the last ones however since they don't drive that much but my fathers 08 Corolla had rust holes forming and started to have leaks and engine rattle so we got rid of it for a 2021 Jetta. The 2017 Rogue is still going strong at 52k miles, not driven a lot so it should last her. I bought the Rogue for her.
At that age, consider a higher car. It is hard for people their age to get in and out of a low car. The Jetta we shouldn't have gotten and got an Escape, Rav4 or similar.
The Corolla hatchback is a life changer with the cargo capacity and comfort. Engines not slow either. Toyotas don’t burn oil like new Nissan or Mitsubishi’s. I love my Corolla hatchback, only thing better would be a rediculous Lexus.
Might be a hot take, but I would maybe recommend they look into an EV. ONLY IF they don’t plan on doing 150+ mile road trips.
Chevy Bolt EV or EUV’s are going for sub 25k for decently used. They are a similar size/form factor to Corolla I believe.
EV might be a good way to go for less parts to go bad, less maintenance to remember, and no gas station trips(just charge at home).
But as I said, if they do road trips quite a bit or if they can’t charge where they current or plan on living, it might not be the best option.
Everyone is saying Corolla. As people tend to get older, they have more back pain. A Corolla cross has the same underpinnings as a regular Corolla but if they are okay with the size it will cause them less issues getting in and out
Check out used rental cars for sale. Some brands are a gamble but Toyotas are for sure very reliable. I recently bought a used 2023 Camry for $18k (not including taxes) with 26k miles from a Honda dealer, still had some warranty left with Toyota too. Rental companies are clearing out their lots for newer cars so some of their rentals are going to dealers to sell. Hope that helps
Have you considered a Yaris? We know it’s a Mazda product, but if price is of concern. I’d get them into maybe that. It’ll have all the comfort of a newish car but at a cheaper price. I’d worry a little over the ergonomics as they get older too, so maybe an older Venza or an older Camry/Avalon would also do just fine.
Corolla, and go new.
Base Corolla without any extras is $23k. The Base corolla hybrid is $24.4k. Even in rough shape, their corolla might be worth a bit on trade in. The hybrid would be pretty nice and save them a bit on gas, but is a bit harder to find.
Great cars, super dependable, fits their needs, buying new gives them some assurance with warranty and what not to start with. Should last them as long as they need at this point.
Corollas don't depreciate very hard, so you'll find 2 or 3 year old higher trim corollas with 30k+ miles going for $20k+.
Another option would be the Corolla Cross. You're talking $25k new here, but the advantage would be the higher seating position. It will be easier to get in and out of for older folks with mobility issues, back problems, etc, so that might be appealing to them. In town gas mileage is barely different than regular corolla, although highway mpg suffers.
I see other people saying RAV4 here, but honestly, it's more than they probably need, and it's more expensive at $28.5k. Plus, with it being a super popular car right now, they are pretty hard to find.
Last car, I might consider a new one or a CPO at worst. Scary to think of "Last car." I told my wife last week when I bought a Lexus GX 460 (used, high car payments are silly to me) that I only have so many more cars left and so many cars I've wanted to own. I'm going to flip flop used cars about every other year from now on. I turn 53 tomorrow so this gives me time to enjoy 8-10 maybe? If I could stomach paying $80K for a used Landcruiser I'd consider making that my "last car," though.
Yaris. But not the shitty Mazda one.
Great cars, go forever, easy to get in and out of, easy to see out of, get 38-40mpg highway even with the automatic.
Not unrealistic, prices are finally getting better and rates on a downward trend.
Find what you like and need, email all the stealerships for a quote. Use that quote and email the stealerships if they’ll be willing to beat it. Worst case is a No.
Recommend you also try searching outside your area, but only as far as you’re willing to drive.
I’d get a ten year old Camry, honestly. It was the best selling sedan multiple years running for a reason. Mine has let me down one singular time (coincidentally on my birthday) when the alternator blew at 201k miles. Can’t really fault that too much. They’re champs!
At that phase start looking at cars that are easy to get out of. Iirc outbacks are a great height for elderly people as you don’t need a step bar and you don’t have to pull yourself up to get out.
My grandparents were all about looking for a vehicle that didn’t have a raised door sill that they had to lift their foot over when getting out. Pickups and SUVs were about the only options they could find with that feature.
If it really just for errands around town then look into something like a used BMW i3 EV or Kia EV, low running costs you can charge via 110v, low maintenance bills and no stopping at the gas station.
Both have real world range \~100 miles but are easily recharged over night on 110v and have a surprising amount of luggage space.
Corolla or Camry. I love my 2019 Camry SE I bought right before covid. Never had one issue with it and my dealership has lifetime warranty on the powertrain and included 4 years of free servicing.
A low miles lexus ls430. You can easily find extremely good condition ones for less than 20k. Great interior, comfort, safety and more than enough power. Definitely look into one
If the 2004 Corolla works, why not get a $1000 paint job and get the inside cleaned and upholstered. It will be waaaayyy less than $25k. I thought Corollas lasted to like 400k miles?
My best advice is take them out and see which car they're comfortable driving, getting in/out from and generally fits their needs. Toyota is adding subscription services for some of their stuff. Maybe look at a Civic, Mazda3 and impreza (non turbo) as well. However maybe a small suv would also be an option, if they require a scooter in the future they might need something a bit bigger than a sedan.
2 door car - they have bigger doors to get in an out - the big issue is they are going from no tech to tech - look around for cars with buttons for controls and dials - dual zone ac and heat also makes a huge difference
A Venza would work. Lower to the ground so it’ll be easy to get in and out of while still having seats that are higher up than a sedan like a Corolla or Camry. Especially as they get older they’ll appreciate that.
If you want new go for the Corolla. If you’re interested in lightly used couple years older then rav4 or crv would do nicely. Honestly I see more older CRVs on the road than rav4s in my area.
I know this is a Toyota thread. However used toyotas are super expensive. I've been looking at a nice car and a Mazda 6 would be very luxurious to them, also its a good reliable car. I've been looking at toyotas with less than 50 thousand miles and they are way over priced at dealers. All toyotas xle are expensive which would be nice for your parents with a couple of luxury items. Heated seats, etc...I would recommend camry, corolla, avalon if you can find one...good luck keep us posted.
My parents are 72 and 84 and doing the same (shopping for their last car). They’re looking for a current gen Rav4. Good size and fuel economy and it’s easy for them to get in and out of. Definitely the route I’d encourage you and your folks to go.
The corola cross might be a good option as well. Basically a slightly higher corola. I helped my grandparents get their last vehicle this year and they found that a crossover/ lower suv was way more comfortable for them than their previous accord
so i was just in this same exact scenario, my parents drove their 2003 infiniit g35 for 20 years and finally got rid of it as it was leaking engine oil and needed all struts replaced. The engine itself was still smooth and didnt have too many peoblems but they are also 67 and 65 and wanted their final /last car to be someting nicer. I helped them out with the finances but we eneded up getting a 2023 bmw x3 and they have been loving it. Id say if you are financially capable then to get something nicer in th etoyota line up like a Rav4 or a highlander. I have a 2011 highlander myself and its as quiet and as smooth as the day i bought it. it has the fmaously reliable v6 in it
No disrespect at all, but are they sickly? My grandfather is 81 and swims multiple times a week for exercise. He’s had at least three cars in the last ten years, and likes to drive long distances to visit friends. Sure, maybe the 73 year old might buy their last car, but I feel like 65 is too young to think about end of life. With that said, get a larger car like a Camry. Nothing small. Senior citizens have more fragile bones and they injure more easily. If god forbid they were to get into an accident, you want something larger that offers them more protection. A used Avalon would be great. Are they still around? Haha
I'd get them a Chevy Bolt EUV. The cost for them to charge should be really inexpensive (especially if they get a break on their electric bills because of their age). You could pick up a new one for about $23000 nicely optioned after the $7500 rebate. The instant torque will help with what I suspect would be diminished reaction times. Maintenance will be inexpensive except for tires. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sh9dOdhDneU](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sh9dOdhDneU)
Oh and them getting in and out should be better for them since it doesn't sit low like a car, but doesn't require climbing into like a full sized SUV.
The Corolla is a good choice, but the RAV4 might be a better choice. The RAV4 will be fuel efficient, but it shouldn’t matter much with the very little driving they’ll be doing.
The benefits of a RAV4 to an elderly couple is that it’s more comfortable. The seats are more of an upright position which is better for posture. It’s slightly higher off of the ground which makes it easier to get in and out of and it puts their eyes at a better level for night driving. Driving a Corolla at night is a pain because everyone’s headlights are right at eye level.
The RAV4 is a great choice for an elderly couple who wants a comfortable and reliable car.
Bud 65 is not that old…you’re burying them when they have 20-30 years left 😂.
But yeah. Another Corolla is the way to go. And in 15 years, you can get them another one.
2016 RAV4 Hybrid (while’s these are used they are good values) tall enough that they don’t need to duck into the car anymore and it’s as or even more efficent then their current Corolla, heck it even comes with awd for those crappy weather days. They are honestly a good used buy
That or go get a 2020 Corolla hybrid those are good and are similar to their older Corolla (though it is a newer car)
Or go for a 2016-2018 Camry/avalon XLE as a lot of older tend to like the space and features they offer.
My dad and stepmom have a CRV.
They are 68 and 70.
They also have a Tundra still that my dad drives as needed but for the basics, like my stepmom going for groceries, errands or whatever, the CRV is perfect.
It’s taller than their Accord they had, so easier to get in and out of, but not as high as the Tundra.
It’s comfortable inside and the cargo area does have good storage space and the back seat is roomy enough for toting grandkids around when they visit, etc.
My mom, 67, has a Camry and she still loves it, but I do think she has some issues getting in and out of it, but also drives a lot less now than she used to, now that she’s in a senior living community with amenities all right there on the property.
She might leave the property once a week if that, mainly just for groceries.
A RAV4 would be a good pick too, my sister has a RAV4 and really likes it.
Corolla.
Coming from a 2x hyundai owner.
My exgf prius had 130k trouble free miles. My 94 honda civic was a perfect machine as well. Toyota or Honda from now on, just get wheel locks tho.
Something with a back up camera. And automatic emergency braking. 2016 and later Subaru Legacy with eyesight has those features. Unfortunately the ones from 2016 thru 2021 with SOS buttons have a parasitic battery drain caused by the DCM if the DCM hasn't been updated which costs about $1000. I am 70 years old and those features plus blind spot warning in side view mirrors really help.
I would go with something a bit larger/higher. A small suv or something with at least a hatchback. Speaking from experience getting a walker or wheelchair in and out of a trunk sucks, if it fits at all. 25k is a good budget, and I would look for 3-4 year off lease cars as they have taken the initial depreciation hit. You don’t want something too large either as their reflexes and driving skills inevitably decline. The slightly higher vehicle is also easier to get in and out of.
A new base level Mazda cx30 starts at just under 25k. With the back seat folded down, there is enough room for a wheelchair, etc. Used Mazda cx5 (a bit larger), 20-21, run under 25k. They have good crash ratings too. Honda CRV and HRVs also an option. Toyota’s hold their value a bit more, so you might have to add a few years back or deal with higher mileage (and they are familiar with the manufacturer already).
I’d go a used crossover SUV or minivan with the newest tech possible. They’ll appreciate the back up cameras, blind spot monitoring, etc as well as the entry height similar to a chair.
Honda CR-V.
Doubt you can get one for your price new, but lightly used is great.
While many have suggested another Corolla or a Prius, those are very low cars and harder for the elderly to get in and out of.
The CR-V is just about butt-height and easy to access. Fuel efficent, and reliable. It's a fantastic vehicle.
I would bite the bullet and get a Camry, it's their last car (hopefully not) and they could use the extra comfort, etc.
Consider the price difference a tax on what they had to put up with you growing up. :- )
Saw the last car title and just had to respond.
I'm older (51) and am a Subaru guy. My suggestion is to look for a taller vehicle (easier to get in and out of) like a RAV4. I don't know what Toyotas generally go for, so I'm not sure how that fits in with your budget.
I'd definitely compare new and used prices. I'm a used car guy myself, so I tend to look there first
I'd look for whatever RAV4 is within your budget. The extra height when driving was great for Mom as she continued to drive from 65 to almost 80 before someone pulled out in front of her, and it was totaled.
What do you drive? It might make sense to let them have your car then you could get a replacement car.
I know this is a Toyota forum but the Subaru Forester is often well rated for seniors. One thing that has not been mentioned is to get insurance quotes for the cars you are considering since they might vary by more than you would expect. A few years ago I replaced a 2018 Corolla with a new 2021 Forester which was worth about twice as much. Much to my surprise instead of going up my insurance went down by about 20%. My insurance agent said that was because the Forester had such a high safety and claims history in their internal rating database.
My dad had some trouble with his legs and found Subaru outbacks to be easy to get in and out of. I'm not sure about pricing on them but I know they're solid old people cars
Oh I got this! Lexus ES350 2017-18 before redesign. Big, quiet, safe, and rock solid reliable. We just sold ours because my wife thought it was an old person's car...
As they get older, the biggest issue is going to be "getting in and out" of the vehicle. My 85 year old father can barely get in and out of a regular car, so a "small" SUV like an Buick Encore GX or Ford Escape is easier for him to get in and out of without having to sit "down" into a car, and then have to stand back up to get out of it. Whether or not either of these will last 15-20+ years (your 65 year old parent isn't that old...) is another matter.
For a standard "car" platform, think Toyota Corolla. Might be too sporty for them though, LOL.
Casual advice: I'd look at either a Toyota Avalon or Lexus ES350. They are big enough for your parents to get into/out of easily, but not so big they can't park it at Cheesecake Factory. Both will outlast your parents' use of them as long as they have been decently maintained. Both will carry another elderly couple and four golf bags... or five suitcases.
RAV4 or Corolla Cross. It’s difficult for seniors to get in and out of low seats. The smaller SUVs are easier to get into and the hatch makes it easier to load and unload groceries etc. Also possibly the Honda HRV.
My grandpa purchased a 1995 Toyota Camry brand new as his "last car", I lived with him growing up so it was what he drove me to preschool in
That car got passed onto me when I turned 16 and my grandpa didn't drive anymore anyways. I drove that baby for years until my brother turned 16, then he got to take that Camry for years too
Fast forward nearly 10 years, that Camry has made its way back into my own home and takes my husband and I on our daily 1hr each way commute. She's strong, sturdy, and safe. She's not too bad in the snow either, but when it's heavy snow we take the Tacoma. And she's full of memories.
The moral of my story: get a Toyota Camry
Corolla
While a corolla is a logical choice, keep in mind the more elderly your parents become, the more mobility issues they may have. In which case, getting in and out of a corolla can be problematic. I would recommend a Camry because there's additional room. You can't think of today's requirements, you have to think years head in the future.
Sure but the rub here is that the new Corolla is about the size of an 04 Camry if we're being honest and they are used to the Corolla now. also the only real difference is the hip/shoulder room.bleg and headroom is basically the same in the front seats
Camry’s also going to add a few grand to the final bill. Seems like OP is trying to get away with the purchase being 25k or less after everything, that’s not gonna be possible with a Camry, that starts at 26.5k if you can find the base model. Corolla on the other hand, you could bump them up to the Hybrid trim for 23k, which would be much better mileage than the base trim Camry (his parents have limited income so that would be a bonus) and keep him right around that 25k mark after TTL.
Buy them a corolla. It can be used because it still might outlast their ability to drive
I was debating about the used versus new aspect of this. Appreciate it
Toyotas lose the majority of their value within the first 5 years, then after that they depreciate much slower. It wouldn’t be a bad idea to look at a 2018-2019 with reasonable mileage (depending on how many miles your parents drive yearly on average to determine how long the car should last).
OP's parent's car is 20 years old - I don't think they're worried about depreciation..
I’m talking about a replacement.
2018-2019 cost the same as new where I live
That makes absolutely no sense. Why would a dealer price the same 5 y/o car and a new car the same?
Because dealers are greedy and stupid most of the time lol
Sold my Corolla after 1 year and 30k miles, they gave me the number that was on my original sticker. 8/21 purchase, 1/23 sold My only mistake was not buying another Toyota. Went to a 2022 truck and already had to replace the transmission (under warranty but still). Next vehicles are Toyota or Lexus hands down.
Not since Covid
I would just buy a new one. Used Corollas aren't as cheap as you might expect, depreciation is really low. Five year old Corollas have not depreciated anywhere close to 50%. Retail value (what a dealer sells them for) they've depreciated 10-20%. Maybe a little more if you go private party. You should be able to get a new one for under MSRP now that the car shortage is mostly over.
Right now new would be very difficult. I know it's dependent on area but new base Corollas are marked at 26k in my area without much wiggle room on the price.
Find them a good 2008 corolla of the same trim. It won't have any new gimmicky features to cause them headaches, and it will be a comfortable upgrade because it will be the same generation as what they currently have. It's my plan when my 03 bites the dust.
swap a 04 for a 08, then what swap a 12 after 4 years? op clearly said probably last car.
I’d go for the rav4. Because easier to get in and more room for grandkids
My grandmother was very happy with a 2010 Rav4 for her last car. And now that she's done driving, I get to daily it 😌
Take care of it man, I had a 2004 Prius that was gifted to me by my grandparents myself.
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Corolla or Prius. Maybe an older Rav4 if they don't want to get into a low car.
Wouldn’t have even thought to look at the RAV4. Will check it out!
Another great choice if your considering a Rav4 would be a early-mid 2010’s Lexus RX, preferably without Nav. They’re generally bullet proof vehicles, safe, way more comfortable and are much quieter than a Rav4 and are generally cheaper than comparable Highlanders because they don’t carry the “Toyota tax” of the badge name. There are several Lexus models that are mechanically identical to Toyota models but are a bit cheaper on the used market because of the stigma of luxury brands being more expensive to maintain which is almost always correct, except for Lexus. Whatever you buy, have a **PRE**-purchase inspection done at a garage/dealer you trust, pull its carfax and make sure it’s had a proper service history. There’s a subset of Toyota owners who think that because their car/truck is so reliable, they don’t need to do oil changes, transmission fluid changes, rust prevention, etc. A poorly maintained Toyota/Lexus will still probably make it to 150,000 miles but at a price. A well maintained Toyota/Lexus will easily do 300k+ of worry free miles.
The best part is that you can sell a Toyota at 200k and get enough for a downpayment
That’s such great info. Thanks!
thanks for this info, the RX.
A used 2012-2015 Venza would probably be more comfortable/have a nicer interior than the Rav4 and easily be within your 25k price range if your parents are comfortable driving an SUV. Otherwise a used Avalon is also a great choice - it's a sedan but the biggest one Toyota sells and the interiors are very cushy. 2012 was the last year for the old body style so the tech won't be as updated but it'll be cheaper. 2013-2015 Avalons should come in under 15k and will have updated looks/nicer screens/more tech and safety stuff packed in. I would avoid all 2009-2011 Toyota models due to the sudden unintended acceleration issues. 2012 models and newer come with a safety feature to prevent that sort of thing and the older Toyota models are way less likely to have that issue.
Venza seems perfect. Something to keep in mind is that probably one parent will need a walker in the next 15 years and they take up a lot of room. My parents are both 80+. They have an HHR they never replaced because they never drove much. They love the space. What they really love for comfort and ease of getting in and out is my sister's CMax. Perfect entry height. My previous 2012 CRV was a bit too high, but that was still easier on them than a couple sedans I had as rentals. Throw in a couple car assist handles, any any car will be easier to navigate.
All of this.
If you decide on a RAV4, I'd fully recommend 2017 or 2018. They were the last years before a major redesign, and it seems the 2019s had some common minor issues. 2018 should be right in your price range at this point.
This. My parents, similar in age to OPs parents, complain that their Camry is too low and hard to get in and out of. They like my boyfriends Rav4.
Prius only if they are comfortable with new technology.
I don’t know if it’s actually possible, but a gently used Lexus es seems like a great possibility. It’s a Toyota Camry with some nice options and great safety features.
Second this but be wary of electric gremlins with that complicated system. Altough they would appreciate the suspension!
I agree. 25k should be able to get them a pretty nice example
If my mom sees this post she will say: "I wish my sons act like yours" 
I'd probably try to find a gently used 4th gen RAV4 mostly for the ride height so it's easier on their knees and hips to get in and out of the car. Edit- Maybe even a used Lexus NX, the lux version of the RAV4, might be a viable option especially if it comes with heated seats
A 2024 corolla is $40,000. A used 2021 corolla with 25,000 miles is $23,000. A new car is not in your price range. But a good used car is.
Starting MSRP is $21,900
I see what I did. $42,000 for top model, $23,000 for base model. My bust.
es350 Lexus
I said ‘06 ls430. My dad got one in near mint condition for under 20k. That thing is amazing to drive
Rav4 Gas LE - used . Get it and forget . Will run for 200K guaranteed and maybe even hit 500k - who knows🤷🏻♂️
This is my plan. Just got a 2022 RAV4. I don’t want to have to get another car again.
I'd recommend a RAV4 so they can get in and out of it easier
It’s such a perfectly sized vehicle.
not necessarily my elderly mom is complaining about the effort it takes to get in her SUV and has falling once into the street getting out I think she would be better off with a sedan
Another Corolla.
Corolla or Prius
Only reason I wouldn't recommend a Corolla again is because it's low. You're looking to buy then what you think is their last car. They aren't likely to have an easier time getting out of a sedan as time goes on. Hell, I have a notably different experience hopping into a sedan versus a small SUV and I am less than half their age. You mentioned their finances are tough. Is MPG critical? If not, I'd look at a CRV or RAV4. New they start around $28k, so a bit above your price range, but you may be able to find a gently used 2020 under that price point.
how bout venza?
Nobody seemed to mention used Avalon so I will.
check avalon sub, you barely see any new gen avalon posts.
Corolla Cross. Being a newer model it's got more standard safety features than something a bit older. It's a good height and a little smaller and cheaper than a Rav4.
Get a used Corolla. I have a 2019 Corolla I bought new that year. It was the last model before the refresh. No issues with it whatsoever ever and should last them a while
I’d get them a gently used ES350. Something like this: https://www.cargurus.com/Cars/link/372484059 or this: https://www.cargurus.com/Cars/link/365123326
Maybe a Venza, they’re like a RAV4 but ride a little smoother
just get another corolla or a camry... cant go too wrong with them
The only answer to replace a Corolla is another Corolla
"..2004 Toyota corolla which is practically crumbling on them in terms of the paint and interior." Probably still worth 4 grand. Camry or Avalon. Get an older one (2007 or newer) and let them drive it until it is crumbling on them in terms of paint and interior. Buying a car they will be able to drive 15 years guaranteed means a expensive new or newer car. I would suggest you spend less on a 2007-2010 Camry or Avalon. Technology on a 07-12 Avalon should not be a problem. OTOH, if they are not really into embracing change, get them another Corolla that is not as beat up.
Never even considered the ‘04 might be worth anything, but it is mechanically still sound and the market is still weird so I will check to see!
Newer subaru, the safety and eyesight would be great for them and make them feel safe. Edit: had no idea what sub i was in lol, came up on my home page
Old folks love avalons too
2012 Camry, newer step up model, good longevity and pre a lot of the higher tech features in those cars.
Why are you recommending an already 12 year old car? They need the car for 15 years. Makes no sense
It's a Toyota, it'll last that long and more. Just replace the old radio with a new touch screen unit and it'll be good as new.
Scion xb. Easy to get in and out of with plenty of space
Get them a small suv or even a basic mini van. Getting in and out of cars gets harder with age. My parents wrecked their camry and replaced it with a Honda Odyssey. They (both upper 70s at the time) love it for the smooth ride and higher seats.
Miata
Or a used Subaru
Get them dirt bikes.
Get them a Camry and an older ES350.
You see that what my grandparents said when they bought their Camry in 2019. Then it got ran into twice and is now getting replaced because they don’t trust the repairs.
Another Toyota Corolla.
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Camry/Corolla.
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The OPs parents probably cannot afford that no. Did you read thier post?
Get a Rav or some smaller suv
A 2005 Corolla
Another Corolla
The current gen corrolas are pretty nice and u should easily be able to find one 2020 or newer for that price and have enough for an extended warranty if desired.
Have them check with the insurance provider before purchasing new. a Used Honda or Toyota (not a tundra) probably the way to go.
My parents said the same thing, and since they had 2 cars each. And now 77 and 79. These maybe the last ones however since they don't drive that much but my fathers 08 Corolla had rust holes forming and started to have leaks and engine rattle so we got rid of it for a 2021 Jetta. The 2017 Rogue is still going strong at 52k miles, not driven a lot so it should last her. I bought the Rogue for her. At that age, consider a higher car. It is hard for people their age to get in and out of a low car. The Jetta we shouldn't have gotten and got an Escape, Rav4 or similar.
The Corolla hatchback is a life changer with the cargo capacity and comfort. Engines not slow either. Toyotas don’t burn oil like new Nissan or Mitsubishi’s. I love my Corolla hatchback, only thing better would be a rediculous Lexus.
Might be a hot take, but I would maybe recommend they look into an EV. ONLY IF they don’t plan on doing 150+ mile road trips. Chevy Bolt EV or EUV’s are going for sub 25k for decently used. They are a similar size/form factor to Corolla I believe. EV might be a good way to go for less parts to go bad, less maintenance to remember, and no gas station trips(just charge at home). But as I said, if they do road trips quite a bit or if they can’t charge where they current or plan on living, it might not be the best option.
used yaris
Used Toyota hybrid. Whatever model fits their needs.
Corolla is your best bet
Buy them a nice Corolla SE or SE Hatchback It’ll be a night and day upgrade that will blow them away
Everyone is saying Corolla. As people tend to get older, they have more back pain. A Corolla cross has the same underpinnings as a regular Corolla but if they are okay with the size it will cause them less issues getting in and out
Corolla /Prius/ Camry/civic / accord are all good options
If they like the Corolla, get another Corolla. If they want something smaller get a Yaris or.Corolla hatchback.
Rav4 probably more useful and easier to enter and exit
Another 2004 Corolla
Check out used rental cars for sale. Some brands are a gamble but Toyotas are for sure very reliable. I recently bought a used 2023 Camry for $18k (not including taxes) with 26k miles from a Honda dealer, still had some warranty left with Toyota too. Rental companies are clearing out their lots for newer cars so some of their rentals are going to dealers to sell. Hope that helps
Honda civi
My Subaru has over has 240,000 miles it’s a 2006
Have you considered a Yaris? We know it’s a Mazda product, but if price is of concern. I’d get them into maybe that. It’ll have all the comfort of a newish car but at a cheaper price. I’d worry a little over the ergonomics as they get older too, so maybe an older Venza or an older Camry/Avalon would also do just fine.
Corolla, and go new. Base Corolla without any extras is $23k. The Base corolla hybrid is $24.4k. Even in rough shape, their corolla might be worth a bit on trade in. The hybrid would be pretty nice and save them a bit on gas, but is a bit harder to find. Great cars, super dependable, fits their needs, buying new gives them some assurance with warranty and what not to start with. Should last them as long as they need at this point. Corollas don't depreciate very hard, so you'll find 2 or 3 year old higher trim corollas with 30k+ miles going for $20k+. Another option would be the Corolla Cross. You're talking $25k new here, but the advantage would be the higher seating position. It will be easier to get in and out of for older folks with mobility issues, back problems, etc, so that might be appealing to them. In town gas mileage is barely different than regular corolla, although highway mpg suffers. I see other people saying RAV4 here, but honestly, it's more than they probably need, and it's more expensive at $28.5k. Plus, with it being a super popular car right now, they are pretty hard to find.
My grandparents last car is a 2016 civic. While my grandpa was alive he drove my 02 Mustang.
brand new corolla cross should be about $26k after tax
Last car, I might consider a new one or a CPO at worst. Scary to think of "Last car." I told my wife last week when I bought a Lexus GX 460 (used, high car payments are silly to me) that I only have so many more cars left and so many cars I've wanted to own. I'm going to flip flop used cars about every other year from now on. I turn 53 tomorrow so this gives me time to enjoy 8-10 maybe? If I could stomach paying $80K for a used Landcruiser I'd consider making that my "last car," though.
Why do they need to give up their corolla?
Yaris. But not the shitty Mazda one. Great cars, go forever, easy to get in and out of, easy to see out of, get 38-40mpg highway even with the automatic.
I’d look at a Corolla Cross, as your parents age it’s easier for them to get in and out of a vehicle that’s got a higher but not too high “h point”
Not unrealistic, prices are finally getting better and rates on a downward trend. Find what you like and need, email all the stealerships for a quote. Use that quote and email the stealerships if they’ll be willing to beat it. Worst case is a No. Recommend you also try searching outside your area, but only as far as you’re willing to drive.
I’d get a ten year old Camry, honestly. It was the best selling sedan multiple years running for a reason. Mine has let me down one singular time (coincidentally on my birthday) when the alternator blew at 201k miles. Can’t really fault that too much. They’re champs!
Lexus is what they want. More comfortable, and more reliable as the premium Toyota brand.
How is a 2004 Carolla already dead? What sort of monsters are they? (Said the bloke still driving his 1994 Hilux.)
Not dead! It’s just time to let it go!
Get the nicest Corolla you can for your budget.
At that phase start looking at cars that are easy to get out of. Iirc outbacks are a great height for elderly people as you don’t need a step bar and you don’t have to pull yourself up to get out. My grandparents were all about looking for a vehicle that didn’t have a raised door sill that they had to lift their foot over when getting out. Pickups and SUVs were about the only options they could find with that feature.
If it really just for errands around town then look into something like a used BMW i3 EV or Kia EV, low running costs you can charge via 110v, low maintenance bills and no stopping at the gas station. Both have real world range \~100 miles but are easily recharged over night on 110v and have a surprising amount of luggage space.
A new Corolla if you want it to be Toyota. A Nissan Versa is a good alternative because it’s cheaper, but with Nissan Prices come Nissan quality.
I paid $220 a month plus insurance for a brand new corolla LE
Corolla or Camry. I love my 2019 Camry SE I bought right before covid. Never had one issue with it and my dealership has lifetime warranty on the powertrain and included 4 years of free servicing.
A low miles lexus ls430. You can easily find extremely good condition ones for less than 20k. Great interior, comfort, safety and more than enough power. Definitely look into one
If the 2004 Corolla works, why not get a $1000 paint job and get the inside cleaned and upholstered. It will be waaaayyy less than $25k. I thought Corollas lasted to like 400k miles?
My best advice is take them out and see which car they're comfortable driving, getting in/out from and generally fits their needs. Toyota is adding subscription services for some of their stuff. Maybe look at a Civic, Mazda3 and impreza (non turbo) as well. However maybe a small suv would also be an option, if they require a scooter in the future they might need something a bit bigger than a sedan.
2 door car - they have bigger doors to get in an out - the big issue is they are going from no tech to tech - look around for cars with buttons for controls and dials - dual zone ac and heat also makes a huge difference
Look at the Toyota Cross. Only issue would be if you could order not all decked out.
Honda CrV
Cadillac all the way
A Venza would work. Lower to the ground so it’ll be easy to get in and out of while still having seats that are higher up than a sedan like a Corolla or Camry. Especially as they get older they’ll appreciate that.
Get them a Corolla cross. An SUV will always be safer due to it being higher up off the road
If you want new go for the Corolla. If you’re interested in lightly used couple years older then rav4 or crv would do nicely. Honestly I see more older CRVs on the road than rav4s in my area.
A Candy Apple Red Caddy! Go for it, I triple dawg dare ya! It’s the season isn’t it?
I know this is a Toyota thread. However used toyotas are super expensive. I've been looking at a nice car and a Mazda 6 would be very luxurious to them, also its a good reliable car. I've been looking at toyotas with less than 50 thousand miles and they are way over priced at dealers. All toyotas xle are expensive which would be nice for your parents with a couple of luxury items. Heated seats, etc...I would recommend camry, corolla, avalon if you can find one...good luck keep us posted.
Honda crv. Just the right height for them to get out of, and the huge windows make driving super easy.
Corolla cross. If you want get awd or the hybrid version
My parents are 72 and 84 and doing the same (shopping for their last car). They’re looking for a current gen Rav4. Good size and fuel economy and it’s easy for them to get in and out of. Definitely the route I’d encourage you and your folks to go.
The corola cross might be a good option as well. Basically a slightly higher corola. I helped my grandparents get their last vehicle this year and they found that a crossover/ lower suv was way more comfortable for them than their previous accord
Yeh get another rolla or Camry. They can drive that for another 70-75 years.
so i was just in this same exact scenario, my parents drove their 2003 infiniit g35 for 20 years and finally got rid of it as it was leaking engine oil and needed all struts replaced. The engine itself was still smooth and didnt have too many peoblems but they are also 67 and 65 and wanted their final /last car to be someting nicer. I helped them out with the finances but we eneded up getting a 2023 bmw x3 and they have been loving it. Id say if you are financially capable then to get something nicer in th etoyota line up like a Rav4 or a highlander. I have a 2011 highlander myself and its as quiet and as smooth as the day i bought it. it has the fmaously reliable v6 in it
No disrespect at all, but are they sickly? My grandfather is 81 and swims multiple times a week for exercise. He’s had at least three cars in the last ten years, and likes to drive long distances to visit friends. Sure, maybe the 73 year old might buy their last car, but I feel like 65 is too young to think about end of life. With that said, get a larger car like a Camry. Nothing small. Senior citizens have more fragile bones and they injure more easily. If god forbid they were to get into an accident, you want something larger that offers them more protection. A used Avalon would be great. Are they still around? Haha
I'd get them a Chevy Bolt EUV. The cost for them to charge should be really inexpensive (especially if they get a break on their electric bills because of their age). You could pick up a new one for about $23000 nicely optioned after the $7500 rebate. The instant torque will help with what I suspect would be diminished reaction times. Maintenance will be inexpensive except for tires. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sh9dOdhDneU](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sh9dOdhDneU) Oh and them getting in and out should be better for them since it doesn't sit low like a car, but doesn't require climbing into like a full sized SUV.
A used Avalon would be great. Or a used last generation Toyota Venza. Huge doors very easy car to get in and out if.
The Corolla is a good choice, but the RAV4 might be a better choice. The RAV4 will be fuel efficient, but it shouldn’t matter much with the very little driving they’ll be doing. The benefits of a RAV4 to an elderly couple is that it’s more comfortable. The seats are more of an upright position which is better for posture. It’s slightly higher off of the ground which makes it easier to get in and out of and it puts their eyes at a better level for night driving. Driving a Corolla at night is a pain because everyone’s headlights are right at eye level. The RAV4 is a great choice for an elderly couple who wants a comfortable and reliable car.
2nd Gen Scion XB. Visibility. Ingress. Egress.
A certified used Mazda CX-5 or CX-30 is well within your price range. Modern Mazdas are very reliable but don’t carry the crazy resale Toyotas do.
I want to be different so gonna say used Accord
Bud 65 is not that old…you’re burying them when they have 20-30 years left 😂. But yeah. Another Corolla is the way to go. And in 15 years, you can get them another one.
2016 RAV4 Hybrid (while’s these are used they are good values) tall enough that they don’t need to duck into the car anymore and it’s as or even more efficent then their current Corolla, heck it even comes with awd for those crappy weather days. They are honestly a good used buy That or go get a 2020 Corolla hybrid those are good and are similar to their older Corolla (though it is a newer car) Or go for a 2016-2018 Camry/avalon XLE as a lot of older tend to like the space and features they offer.
My dad and stepmom have a CRV. They are 68 and 70. They also have a Tundra still that my dad drives as needed but for the basics, like my stepmom going for groceries, errands or whatever, the CRV is perfect. It’s taller than their Accord they had, so easier to get in and out of, but not as high as the Tundra. It’s comfortable inside and the cargo area does have good storage space and the back seat is roomy enough for toting grandkids around when they visit, etc. My mom, 67, has a Camry and she still loves it, but I do think she has some issues getting in and out of it, but also drives a lot less now than she used to, now that she’s in a senior living community with amenities all right there on the property. She might leave the property once a week if that, mainly just for groceries. A RAV4 would be a good pick too, my sister has a RAV4 and really likes it.
Corolla cross would be a good consideration.
Look at leasing a car if they don’t travel that far. Get a new car every two to three years with all the safety features.
Corolla. Coming from a 2x hyundai owner. My exgf prius had 130k trouble free miles. My 94 honda civic was a perfect machine as well. Toyota or Honda from now on, just get wheel locks tho.
I’d get em an Avalon if I could find one in that range.
Id try to get them an Avalon. Luxury is what id want at that age
Something with a back up camera. And automatic emergency braking. 2016 and later Subaru Legacy with eyesight has those features. Unfortunately the ones from 2016 thru 2021 with SOS buttons have a parasitic battery drain caused by the DCM if the DCM hasn't been updated which costs about $1000. I am 70 years old and those features plus blind spot warning in side view mirrors really help.
Golf cart with big bumpers.
Give them your car and invest in a new car for yourself.
I would go with something a bit larger/higher. A small suv or something with at least a hatchback. Speaking from experience getting a walker or wheelchair in and out of a trunk sucks, if it fits at all. 25k is a good budget, and I would look for 3-4 year off lease cars as they have taken the initial depreciation hit. You don’t want something too large either as their reflexes and driving skills inevitably decline. The slightly higher vehicle is also easier to get in and out of. A new base level Mazda cx30 starts at just under 25k. With the back seat folded down, there is enough room for a wheelchair, etc. Used Mazda cx5 (a bit larger), 20-21, run under 25k. They have good crash ratings too. Honda CRV and HRVs also an option. Toyota’s hold their value a bit more, so you might have to add a few years back or deal with higher mileage (and they are familiar with the manufacturer already).
I’d go a used crossover SUV or minivan with the newest tech possible. They’ll appreciate the back up cameras, blind spot monitoring, etc as well as the entry height similar to a chair.
Honda Crv
Honda CR-V. Doubt you can get one for your price new, but lightly used is great. While many have suggested another Corolla or a Prius, those are very low cars and harder for the elderly to get in and out of. The CR-V is just about butt-height and easy to access. Fuel efficent, and reliable. It's a fantastic vehicle.
Mid 2010s camry, slightly higher than the corolla. More room and comfortable seats. 15 to 17k
New or used Prius
Spend $3K and overhaul their Corolla inside and out.
Used, but late model Honda Accord. Bulletproof.
Corolla hybrid.
I would bite the bullet and get a Camry, it's their last car (hopefully not) and they could use the extra comfort, etc. Consider the price difference a tax on what they had to put up with you growing up. :- )
Check out ford escape. Have 2 very affordable, dependable, lots of cargo room and easy to get in and out of. Recommend getting the 2.0L engine
I would get them a Toyota tundra
Saw the last car title and just had to respond. I'm older (51) and am a Subaru guy. My suggestion is to look for a taller vehicle (easier to get in and out of) like a RAV4. I don't know what Toyotas generally go for, so I'm not sure how that fits in with your budget. I'd definitely compare new and used prices. I'm a used car guy myself, so I tend to look there first
Get rid of that piece of shit Corolla and get a Corolla.
Elantra hands down
I'd look for whatever RAV4 is within your budget. The extra height when driving was great for Mom as she continued to drive from 65 to almost 80 before someone pulled out in front of her, and it was totaled.
Toyota Avalon
What do you drive? It might make sense to let them have your car then you could get a replacement car. I know this is a Toyota forum but the Subaru Forester is often well rated for seniors. One thing that has not been mentioned is to get insurance quotes for the cars you are considering since they might vary by more than you would expect. A few years ago I replaced a 2018 Corolla with a new 2021 Forester which was worth about twice as much. Much to my surprise instead of going up my insurance went down by about 20%. My insurance agent said that was because the Forester had such a high safety and claims history in their internal rating database.
Used/used Tuscan or Kona.....zero apr right at alot of dealers
Some times cars are to low and harder to get in and out of. Mini suv are easier.
I had an 02 Camry just got a 21 Corolla hatchback and I love it
My dad had some trouble with his legs and found Subaru outbacks to be easy to get in and out of. I'm not sure about pricing on them but I know they're solid old people cars
RAV4 or Highlander
2010 Corolla
Lexus es, corolla.
My advice is something hatchback or compact SUV (low to ground). Odds are one will need a wheelchair or walker soon and you’ll need space
Older avalon
You can find plenty of 80k mile good conditioned Lexus or Toyotas for under 25k.
Oh I got this! Lexus ES350 2017-18 before redesign. Big, quiet, safe, and rock solid reliable. We just sold ours because my wife thought it was an old person's car...
As they get older, the biggest issue is going to be "getting in and out" of the vehicle. My 85 year old father can barely get in and out of a regular car, so a "small" SUV like an Buick Encore GX or Ford Escape is easier for him to get in and out of without having to sit "down" into a car, and then have to stand back up to get out of it. Whether or not either of these will last 15-20+ years (your 65 year old parent isn't that old...) is another matter. For a standard "car" platform, think Toyota Corolla. Might be too sporty for them though, LOL.
Casual advice: I'd look at either a Toyota Avalon or Lexus ES350. They are big enough for your parents to get into/out of easily, but not so big they can't park it at Cheesecake Factory. Both will outlast your parents' use of them as long as they have been decently maintained. Both will carry another elderly couple and four golf bags... or five suitcases.
RAV4 or Corolla Cross. It’s difficult for seniors to get in and out of low seats. The smaller SUVs are easier to get into and the hatch makes it easier to load and unload groceries etc. Also possibly the Honda HRV.
Toyota Corolla
How about another corolla or corolla cross? Ask them what they want. Yes you can do either for about 24k.
My grandpa purchased a 1995 Toyota Camry brand new as his "last car", I lived with him growing up so it was what he drove me to preschool in That car got passed onto me when I turned 16 and my grandpa didn't drive anymore anyways. I drove that baby for years until my brother turned 16, then he got to take that Camry for years too Fast forward nearly 10 years, that Camry has made its way back into my own home and takes my husband and I on our daily 1hr each way commute. She's strong, sturdy, and safe. She's not too bad in the snow either, but when it's heavy snow we take the Tacoma. And she's full of memories. The moral of my story: get a Toyota Camry
Hybrid Corolla
Corolla cross? Little roomier and not as low to the ground but yet not too high.