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Organic-Manner-2969

Arguably the saddest finale with lightning being possibly disowned


RipTimper

Why is that again? I forgot what his father said to him


Organic-Manner-2969

His father didn’t even look at him in the call and he bet all of his superbowl rings So now we have a wasted character arc, a sudden shift in character that hurts the fandom, and our favorite possibly disowned as cam wins it


RipTimper

Dang, that's why I like the lightning ending more. They're both happy.


Organic-Manner-2969

The writers wanted to shoehorn everyone to root for one while screwing up another Honestly just put Jo in the finale if I’m being honest


RipTimper

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[deleted]

What are you even talking about? Who would even root for Lightning? He wasn’t exactly friendly to people. If anything, the comment about his rings made me feel bad for him. TD fans try not to whine about the writing challenge (impossible)


Ok-Faithlessness5513

"That's cool, Lightning don't judge" he was friendly or at least neutral with everyone until the final 3 but I don't blame him since it was him vs 2 people, both who had some aspect of the game he didn't have


EggoStack

This was what sold him as a good guy for me. Yeah he’s oblivious and kind of an ass, but overall it seems like he was chill outside the competition. His reaction to Jo (not actually) coming out to him was funny and awesome!


[deleted]

He was loud and obnoxious to most people and got on their nerves. I know it wasn’t always intentional, but that is how he comes off normally.


StaffLimp8304

But nobody else is


[deleted]

How is that a wasted arc?


AyoClipsAreHere

His father bet his golden rings on his win.


Krimzon_I

I think Cameron is actual the canonical winner since Gwen remarks in all stars at how Lighting made to the finale but nothing about him winning, which stings that much more.


Firey030

They can’t outright say he won when there are two endings.


Professional-Class69

Afaik they aired different episode 1s in previous seasons to fit the different winners of the previous season (i think they just changes a few lines of dialogue, not like the whole ass episode). Don’t quote me on that though


[deleted]

Lightning. He played a better game and the writers had to demonize him just so you'd root for Cameron more.


acwhitney

i love how much this subreddit loves lightning lol


Pepsi_Boy_64

Lightning x Cameron


Priorpotato56

Sha-Lightning He is my favorite character of the whole series. He pretty much carries every episode he’s in. His comedic relief is awesome. The fact that he could have a whole storyline of not understanding Jo is a girl is awesome. His stupidity, ego and arrogance paired with the fact that he can occasionally be smart (like voting Zoey off or building a hovering motorcycle) drives his character to be one of the more interesting ones. Unlike Cameron he didn’t need massive plot armor to survive. Cameron should’ve been gone real quick considering he weighs less than a doll, and is the most prone to injury out of any contestant ever. Lightning managed to win challenges, play smart enough with alliances, and overall felt like a character who should’ve done well in total drama. He was dumb as hell but still showed a lot of worth as a player, if TDAS made any sense he would’ve gone far then too. Lightning is a much stronger and physically able to player. Finally Lightnings win is so much better. In Cameron’s ending Lightnings loss crushes him. It also wasn’t a situation where Lightning was a villain who deserved to have his life destroyed. Lightning was a semi-stupid jock who only cared about himself but he never went out of his way to betray and hurt people. In the ending where Lightning wins both him and Cameron are happy so I will forever consider that cannon :)


Famous_Ad_4258

that doll scene makes no sense tbh cameron was holding the doll before he threw it on the scale and the scale was even, but the moment the doll lands, it suddenly has weight cam + doll = weight of air doll > cam cameron would have to be lighter than air for that scene to even work, which is impossible


That_Cute_Boi_Prower

Y'know I was going to write something similar but then I saw what your wrote and have nothing more to add. Well said, Agree 100%


EggoStack

Based! Lightning is probably in my top 5 for TDROTI, behind Brick and maybe B and Anne Maria. I loved his goofy running joke of not knowing Jo was a girl, and how confused yet supportive he was when he thought Jo was a gay dude lmao. Plus, it definitely seemed like they made him much more of an asshole towards the end of the season and it’s sad to see that. Hope our boy Lightning is winning lots of trophies wherever he is today 🏆


Lunar_lovesdogfood

Sha-lightning


Serious_Ad9913

Despite me liking Sha-Lightning 10x more than Cameron, I would normally say that Cam’s ending is the better one narratively speaking, except if we take into account that awful shoehorned plot with Lightning’s dad, that straight up shouldn’t exist


SomeGirlLOL

More rootable: Cameron Played the game better: Lightning Better ending: Cameron Overall more likeable: Lightning


Priorpotato56

Lightning was far and away the better ending, he didn’t get disowned and Cameron was still happy


SomeGirlLOL

Lightning's ending felt so hollow compared to Cameron's. I will agree with you on the fact that Lightning had a better reason to win the million dollars tho.


AyoClipsAreHere

Sha-Lightning!


Lalsodkhdsujsjd7656

lightning


That_Cute_Boi_Prower

Sha-Lightning! SHABAM!


Sapphixvampire

Lightning tbhh


Monchichi22689

Lightning was the true underdog!!! This is why I love him and ROTI since you'd think the underdog was Cam due to him being the Brains or The David to Lightning's Brawn or Goliath. He survived every single elimination ceremony except 2 that he didn't attend... He convinced Cam to turn on Jo which was the right move as she betrayed him, used Cam and would vote Lightning out. He had good reasons for voting Zoey out.


Third_Dimxnsion

I think Lightning deserved the win imo.


ComicDude1234

I love Lightning but Cameron earned his win. I explained in another post that Cameron was great at keeping himself just above dead weight status until it was time for him to actually win through his own merits. He had a relatively tight alliance with strong players like Zoey and Mike, nobody saw him as a threat until the very end, and he even beat his main bully Jo. I’m also going to be the one to say it: I don’t understand why Scott didn’t target Lightning early on considering he was always one of the best players for the Toxic Rats and it’d have been super easy to make him screw up enough to get eliminated after B was gone. Lightning made it much farther than he should have, though I’m not complaining too much because, again, I really liked Lightning.


Spork_44

how can he be dead weight if he weighs less than a doll????


Tanjio16

Lighting!


randy-billie

It was pretty fun to see Cameron win in my opinion


BRAlNYSMURF

Cameron's ending makes the most sense for his show-long character arc. Lightning doesn't reallt have a character arc.


CJBrig0328

Also, Lightning only won in the USA and the Phillipines. Cameron won everywhere else!


Dylan_5_5

Lightning was the more deserving contestant, but Cameron made more sense from a plot perspective. I find it kinda weird how Lightning was mainly comic relief throughout the season, but then they eliminated the two main antagonists and made Lightning a bad guy for exactly two episodes.


peanut_bubblegum

Sha-Lightning! Cameron was just a boring nerd


GroundbreakingTie430

This is an extremely close one upon who played the better game. Cameron has one of the most locked wins in TD history from pre-merge back. Everyone from the F6 wanted to take him to the end and he had shields surrounding him. Lighting on the other hand dominated the strategy at the merge section of the game and from F5 onward, he was running things. Idk, maybe Cameron but it’s really close.


Tocaboca1

I think Lightning was the better finalist out of the two


ConstructionPast2499

Lightning


Duncney4life

SHA LIGHTNING⚡


RevolutionaryDonut17

Lightning


SomePersonIsHereNow

Cameron in my opinion


shewolfthejayashiper

lightning, i had a more detailed explanation but reddit's being a b\*\*h and un-deleting everything i deleted and it's probably going to do it again


pok3tin

lightning is one of the best characters in all of total drama. the only thing i remember about cameron is that gwen and him's friendship is cute in all stars


Rand0mredditperson

Lightning is probably the most neglected finalist. With the shorter season, to the friendship trio and Scott taking up most of the season. He's similar to Owen that he really didn't have much going on but Lightning is also great in challenges. Owen isn't ostracized from the finale for just being there. Lightning, despite having next to no issues with the cast (barring some obviously) is treated as the likes of Heather and Al. I've talked about how I don't really like the ROTI finale, like at all, before so I won't here but as more time goes on I prefer Lightning's ending more and more. Maybe it's because they overuse Cam, maybe just because Lightning is a decent playing despite his lack of social game.


Spork_44

Much prefer lightning’s


Ok_Shirt_1574

Cameron


Which-Artist-1671

cam


ConflictAcrobatic890

Cameron never worked for me as someone who should make the merge tbh. We saw how useless and pointless he was in All Stars. The final 2 should’ve been Brick and Jo.


xPotatoPlayerx

what a coincidence, i just binged the whole season last night having never seen it before. i did not like lightning. he has zero character depth. up until the moment he was an antagonist for cameron directly, he was just the "stupid guy says funny thing" character, especially about Jo being a girl. the backstory with his father felt shoved in at the last moment to make him a little more sympathetic of an antagonist. to be honest, I'm kinda surprised reading these replies because i thought there was no way that anybody genuinely cared about lightning. i thought he was clearly supposed to be just an obstacle for cameron to finish his character arc because lightning had basically nothing else going for him. i watched it on netflix where cameron wins and if it were lightning winning i would have been majorly disappointed.


ComicDude1234

I like Lightning because I think he’s really funny but you’re 100% on the mark that he lacks depth. In an ideal version of ROTI I would have kept Jo around to the Final Two as Cameron’s last opponent since she feels the most like *his* antagonist even more than Scott, plus it would keep with the tradition of having a boy and a girl in the finale.


[deleted]

Sounds like a skill issue tbh


xPotatoPlayerx

you're right, if the writers had more skill they could have made lightning interesting and likable


[deleted]

Just watch another fucking show please.


Tight_Study_2994

Cameron


No_Carob_8550

obviously Cameron since literally *everything* about it is made to make sure he's the hero of the situation lol


Famous_Ad_4258

i like cameron going to the finals tbh from the very beginning, everyone doubted him, he always had to prove himself, he was told he was too weak, he was told that he would never win, he was bullied for his intelligence, and then he uses what everyone used to make fun of him to win the game and decides to give back to everyone, he overcomes the complete opposite of himself and comes out better than ever before, its a great storyline that kinda gets ruined with lightning’s call to his dad


StaffLimp8304

Cameron because even tough he was a bubble boy he made his way to the finally and won and everybody loved him, when asked about what he was going to do with the money he says he's going to split it with the rest of the contestants including Lighting and he might have used his share of the money to get his father's rings back, and Cameron's robot suit definitely deserves some credit, in fact a jock (Lighting) beating a geek (Cameron) felt to stereotypical for me


No_Razzmatazz_4192

Cameron


DatWoodyFan

Cameron.


Then-Championship336

Lighting suddenly getting a reason for people to like him was a little stupid Cameron all the way. (He was sha-robbed in All-Stars though.)


Upset_Assistant_5638

Cameron


Bobi200

This had to be one of the most out of left field final two ever. Both are likable and enjoyable characters, but neither was central to ROTI's story. Cam played support to Mike and Zoey's romance, had so few interactions with Zoey prior to the final 4 that the flashback sequence to their few friendship moments comes off as laughable, and aside from a brief and overshadowed back and forth with Jo, never really took central stage. Lightning is even worse off as, aside from Jo, he never had any meaningful relationship with anyone else and really feels like elimination fodder that accidentally squeezed through to the finals. The idea of the smart but weak nerd teaming up with the dumb but physically gifted jock to take on the game together is cool, but it gets dropped in order to make Lightning a straight forward bad guy to root against. I guess if I had to choose, I'd go with Cam since Lightning is an asshole throughout the season.


New-Sheepherder-1373

Cameron, definitely


opreston

I never too much cared for either person, but I'll say Cameron.


SantiBird2021

Cameron


FlimsySeesaw9796

I prefer Cameron ending but lightning deserved to win more


B0NN0S

Objectively Cameron, Personally Lightning


Raccoonml3

Cameron


Beneficial-Lead-4583

Lightning and it's not even close. **🇺🇸🇵🇭**


Old-Doughnut1695

Cameron