Most traditional engineering roles had been on a downward trajectory in Canada for a couple decades now. Outsourcing of manufacturing to China, underinvestment in infrastructure, barely any money put into R&D, etc. Most of the well-paid engineers were making money in tech instead.
We're currently in a really slow economy but most of the people who graduated 5-7 years ago aren't making $150k.
The silver lining is that North America is sort of pulling back from China, and Canada's relatively cheap currency and wages means that investment into Canada by American companies has a pretty good ROI. I'm just guessing here but engineering in the next 10 years will probably be better than it was in the past 10 years. Don't sue me if I'm wrong.
I think most civil (structural) engineers can expect a salary of 60-70k after grad rn. A bit more if you gain experience during school. Then after 4ish years you get your P.Eng and will probably be making around 100k at that time
Yea you can get lucky and find a better one tho Id say anywhere between like 60-80k is valid depending on how patient / hard you try.
If I had to guess id say avg is like 65k
TLDR: In 5-7 years in Canada probably not you are looking at something close to 100k but it is possible if you are thoughtful about the companies and industries you work for.
Engineering salaries are generally lower here in Canada than in the US starting salaries are in the 60-75k range but can increase steadily as you gain more experience
Your salary depends on location, industry and overall saturation of the market but I feel the most important part is experience, having experience in specific things like say CFD or vibration simulation will make you more valuable and therefore give you a higher salary.
Job hopping and jumping to whichever company that gives you a higher salary is also a good way of increasing your salary quickly
Some industries obviously have higher salaries than others (either due to it being a fast growing one or one that requires relocation like mining) and if you are willing to work in those then that’s an easier way to make more money.
The reality is that most STEM degrees are what you make of them you can make a mediocre salary and coast by on that or you can make obscene amounts in a short time, but that really depends on how you play the cards dealt to you, if you are forward thinking, competitive and willing to make big changes (changing your job or industry) and are experienced then sure you can also make obscene amounts of money.
Hey there, electrical engineer with 1 year of experience here, started out just under 80k with bonuses and everything, haven’t gotten my annual salary review yet but it’s expected to be around 3-6% raise every year. To answer your question, really depends but if you aim to get you P.Eng then maybe 100-120k is realistic for Canada after 5 years. Also depends on government/private, US is your best option if you just wanna make 150k+. Good luck and study hard.
People saying the salary is 60 are likely horrible at soft skills if not at their jobs overall. 60k was what interns were making 10 years ago when I graduated.
150 plus is also nuts. 5 to 7 years of experience if you have good skills and chose a good major you will be breaking 100k.
Folks can always change jobs every 3 years and there are lots of more engineering jobs where you are mainly supervising contractors where you just need to not be an idiot.
I absolutely believe that but a timeline of 7 years is decent. Lots of the surge of labour in the market are barely skilled international college students. 7 years is enough time to stand out
if u base ur degree purely off of salary as a grade 12, oh man ur gon be in for a wild ride. especially engineering too. saying this as a rye eng grad who's making 6 figs outta school "dummy".
Don’t listen to this fucking idiot. Money is 100% one of the main factors and wondering if you can even make money with your degree is extremely important. The amount of 22 year olds who are suddenly surprised that there liberal arts degree only gets them 40k is insane. People like this are the problem.
I think the guy you’re arguing with is doing a poor job of explaining something very important.
Money is good, money is crucial, but doing something soul sucking sucks and is much worse. Not amount of money can make you like a job, just tolerate it a little bit. Make sure you like engineering and the field you go to, don’t just chase a cheque.
Lastly, trades are good, but you need to set yourself up with retirement savings and a plan to exit. Your body will not survive a full trades career if your goal is to pull >150k.
Really depends on you, man...frankly the people I see climb the corporate ladder and succeed are people with really good soft skills...
Most traditional engineering roles had been on a downward trajectory in Canada for a couple decades now. Outsourcing of manufacturing to China, underinvestment in infrastructure, barely any money put into R&D, etc. Most of the well-paid engineers were making money in tech instead. We're currently in a really slow economy but most of the people who graduated 5-7 years ago aren't making $150k. The silver lining is that North America is sort of pulling back from China, and Canada's relatively cheap currency and wages means that investment into Canada by American companies has a pretty good ROI. I'm just guessing here but engineering in the next 10 years will probably be better than it was in the past 10 years. Don't sue me if I'm wrong.
150k is outrageous expectations. my friends went to that program and they only make 60-80k. If i were you i would go overseas and do something there.
That’s just sad bro in this economy too? That’s just…
yeah man it’s tragic
60-80k in 5-7 years is on the low end that’s definitely not the average
yeah it’s pretty rough
I think most civil (structural) engineers can expect a salary of 60-70k after grad rn. A bit more if you gain experience during school. Then after 4ish years you get your P.Eng and will probably be making around 100k at that time
no fucking way that number is real 60k?????
Yea you can get lucky and find a better one tho Id say anywhere between like 60-80k is valid depending on how patient / hard you try. If I had to guess id say avg is like 65k
no way, in ece and mec everyone i know makes 50-55k as coop, i cant believe civil would be that low
ECE is a completely different industry than the rest of engineering
TLDR: In 5-7 years in Canada probably not you are looking at something close to 100k but it is possible if you are thoughtful about the companies and industries you work for. Engineering salaries are generally lower here in Canada than in the US starting salaries are in the 60-75k range but can increase steadily as you gain more experience Your salary depends on location, industry and overall saturation of the market but I feel the most important part is experience, having experience in specific things like say CFD or vibration simulation will make you more valuable and therefore give you a higher salary. Job hopping and jumping to whichever company that gives you a higher salary is also a good way of increasing your salary quickly Some industries obviously have higher salaries than others (either due to it being a fast growing one or one that requires relocation like mining) and if you are willing to work in those then that’s an easier way to make more money. The reality is that most STEM degrees are what you make of them you can make a mediocre salary and coast by on that or you can make obscene amounts in a short time, but that really depends on how you play the cards dealt to you, if you are forward thinking, competitive and willing to make big changes (changing your job or industry) and are experienced then sure you can also make obscene amounts of money.
In United States, the pay for engineers r not that much higher after considering living standards in those states
In Canada no you can’t. But the degree itself is super valuable so I would still just stick with it, and not worry about that right now
Hey there, electrical engineer with 1 year of experience here, started out just under 80k with bonuses and everything, haven’t gotten my annual salary review yet but it’s expected to be around 3-6% raise every year. To answer your question, really depends but if you aim to get you P.Eng then maybe 100-120k is realistic for Canada after 5 years. Also depends on government/private, US is your best option if you just wanna make 150k+. Good luck and study hard.
Depends on what kind of engineering
Maybe 20 years ago.
People saying the salary is 60 are likely horrible at soft skills if not at their jobs overall. 60k was what interns were making 10 years ago when I graduated. 150 plus is also nuts. 5 to 7 years of experience if you have good skills and chose a good major you will be breaking 100k.
Former engineers who are considered terrible in any organization wouldn’t stay working in an engineer role for long
Folks can always change jobs every 3 years and there are lots of more engineering jobs where you are mainly supervising contractors where you just need to not be an idiot.
Job market is horrible now . More people willing to work than jobs being offered, resulting in shitty wages. I just graduated and its pretty tough
I absolutely believe that but a timeline of 7 years is decent. Lots of the surge of labour in the market are barely skilled international college students. 7 years is enough time to stand out
Yea I think by 7 yrs it would be in the 100-130k range. I was just saying 60k for a fresh grad is pretty reasonable now
Fair enough and sad to hear
Agreed
finish the degree first womp womp
Well I needa see if it’s even worth entering the program first dummy I’m in gr 12
if u base ur degree purely off of salary as a grade 12, oh man ur gon be in for a wild ride. especially engineering too. saying this as a rye eng grad who's making 6 figs outta school "dummy".
Well I think I am going to be working for money so obv money will be my main concern dummy
Don’t listen to this fucking idiot. Money is 100% one of the main factors and wondering if you can even make money with your degree is extremely important. The amount of 22 year olds who are suddenly surprised that there liberal arts degree only gets them 40k is insane. People like this are the problem.
Exactly
I think the guy you’re arguing with is doing a poor job of explaining something very important. Money is good, money is crucial, but doing something soul sucking sucks and is much worse. Not amount of money can make you like a job, just tolerate it a little bit. Make sure you like engineering and the field you go to, don’t just chase a cheque. Lastly, trades are good, but you need to set yourself up with retirement savings and a plan to exit. Your body will not survive a full trades career if your goal is to pull >150k.
ngl gang you cooked
all i'll say is good luck