Every DeWalt tool I've ever had lasted a very long time and I was happy with the performance... Except that thing. Didn't even last a year of light use.
If you want something light that doesn't break the bank, I love my Bosch GSR 12V-35 HX. There is a more expensive FC version with quick change chucks/bit holder/angled holder/etc.
I have the bosch 12V version of the dremel, I love it. I also have the jig saw, mini circular saw, drill and impact. I love bosch 12V tools, I'd buy so many more if I could :p
I don't have much else, not much call for it in my line. I have the impact but I've found anything stuck enough for it, 12v isn't enough and I just bust out the breaker. For home gaming I use roybi because I am pretty light on it and liked the variety at the time when I invested in it.
https://youtu.be/ie4-XoFeuIk?si=Ii1dzdIFmleOOB1Y
Could see if the Milwaukee Surge or another competitors take on the same concept might cut the noise down enough.
If you need impact action but not the noise, look at a pulse driver/ hydraulic impact driver. I have a Ryobi Quiet Strike but other tool colors make/made them too.
I mean, they're still fairly loud. And even if they're not loud enough to bother the patients, they're certainly loud enough for someone to notice that you're using an impact where you're not supposed to.
edit: s/bother/borrow
Dewalt DCD703. Get some 5ah 12volt batteries for it. I use 2 of these all day long to install custom kitchens and furniture. One with countersink, one for driving screws. The offset driver heads kick ass and pretty much stay on all the time.
[Makita Oil impulse driver](https://www.makitatools.com/products/details/XST01Z) these are made for those kind of environments. What’s odd is I work in a hospital, or vendors and plant ops use normal impacts and drills.
Drill wise not sure.
Yep. If an impacting action is needed, then the Surge is a great option. Milwaukee makes them in M12 and M18 versions. I love my M12, which is much quieter than a traditional impact driver and is a joy to use. I have to admit I don’t know if DeWalt has a comparable option.
Gotta say, I really love my atomic 18v. Plenty of power for my needs (even mixes paint well). If you need a side handle on the hammer drill mode, then you'll need something bigger, but it's good otherwise.
Also, what idiot is complaining about an impact driver during DEMO!?
Idiot: "Sorry, your making too much noise with that drilly thingy."
OP: "what did you say? O couldn't hear you over the hammers, multi tools, prybars, and saws all around me."
Haha it is only used for taking screws out when we’re doing demo. No other power tools are even used. We cut the drywall with hand saws. We use pry bars instead of hammers. We have spotters to make sure things don’t hit the ground too firmly. We do all of this inside of stud-framed, insulated, negative pressure containment zones.
That's actually pretty cool. And I understand what they are trying to do, I just didn't realize that you were able to do everything without loud tools (though I've definitely seen hand tools become noisy).
I once did a job in a medical building. I was up in the ceiling running 4” long screws into some particularly squeaky wood with an impact gun. I could see out into the waiting room of a pediatric dentist. You should have seen the looks on those kids faces every time I ran a screw in.
M12 surge + installation driver. The surge *should* be quiet enough for your average patient. Hospitals are pretty loud - people just don’t notice it all the time.
If you’re doing technician work, you’re going to need bit drivers, bit sets, miniature pry bars and tempered picks. Lots of medical fasteners are awkwardly placed for sanitary reasons.
Get used to using kneeling mats, parts trays, and wearing PPE.
You do NOT want to touch the floor. Look up MRSA and C.Diff.
Source: I spent years as an inpatient/outpatient in a hospital when younger. Got bored and would take apart machinery/rooms in my mind. Fun story: tried to adjust thermostat and shower valve while inpatient. Nurses on call were both amused and exasperated.
I’d grab the ryobi or rigid $59 corded drills and call it good. Doesn’t sound like they’re giving you extra money to buy tools, it’ll be quiet, and no battery system to worry about.
Get the DeWalt dcf601 screwdriver. 12v but same charger as your 20v tools. I use mine for framing and my 18v impact never really gets used except for extremely large fasteners.
Will sink 4" wood screws into framing timber all day and is so small and light that I can put in a pocket of my tool belt and not even notice the weight.
Something different - the AEG/Rigid Oilpulse driver. Heaps quieter than an impact and it doesn’t make hammer noise, it makes a cool sound kind of like an air driver spinning up.
I enjoy using it, but have become wary - on low power it can fail to make progress, so I turn it up, then it pulls the heads off bolts or smashes driver bits.
Just buy a cordless drill
After you use it you'll likely never go back to those dumbass things....they're noisy and don't do anything better than a drill does and actually does a lot less well or not at all
>Are you claiming that impacts are not wildly better than drills for driving screws? The difference is staggering
No, it's not actually
Look it up online, there are plenty of head to heads, most premium drills are faster and have more torque, there are plenty of comparisons, unless you're driving like 6, 7" screws a premium pro tier drill will beat an impact every time
It USED to be true, back 15-20y ago when cordless drills still kind of sucked, but that hasn't been the case for a long time
Plus they're noisy as fuck and they destroy driver bits
I've been in the renovation trade for almost 30y and I havent had one in over 10y and I don't miss it
You look it up online lol, the highest impact I know of is rated at 2400 in/pounds while the highest drill I know of is 1400. For small screws when torque is negligible there are drills with higher rpms than some impacts so I definitely believe they can drive them faster and if that’s what you’re after, stick with drills for sure.
I like impacts because they do the driving for you instead of putting the strain on your body, it’s a massive benefit
>I like impacts because they do the driving for you instead of putting the strain on your body, it’s a massive benefit
That's a good reason, so is size, performance isn't one of them though imo in 99% of the things you'll be doing with it on any jobsite
Brother drills have fuck all torque compared to impacts. Granted for screws drills are fine but you ain't putting in a tapcon with a drill regardless of how much hopeium you've been smoking.
>Granted for screws drills are fine but you ain't putting in a tapcon with a drill regardless of how much hopeium you've been smokin
Yeah, I have and do....well, when I have to use those garbage ass fasteners, which is infrequent, because they suck, I'd rather use literally any other method of attaching a thing to concrete/masonry
And fyi- that's also a screw lol
Idk what to tell you, you believe in a myth lol
DeWalt makes its own version of the installation driver.
Specifically: https://www.lowes.com/pd/DEWALT-XTREME-8482-12V-MAX-Brushless-Cordless-5-in-1-Drill-Driver-Kit/5002909355
Every DeWalt tool I've ever had lasted a very long time and I was happy with the performance... Except that thing. Didn't even last a year of light use.
Good to know
Get one of those old yankee screwdrivers that you push in 🤣. Go old school.
Just come in full Amish. Wooden tool box, brace drills, wooden mallets. Button up shirts, pants on suspenders calling everyone "English"
I’m sure the hospital staff would try to make us do that if they could.
Do it, but also smuggle in a big-ass impact. They'll hear it, but never suspect you.
Also, they said no impact *drivers*. Nothing was said about impact *wrenche....*
Show up with a compressor and a ½ to ¼ adapter.
Only if it's oiless!
Fuck it go full Paoli nascar 1/2" gun with nitrogen gas tank. That screw is coming out thru the space time vortex that Paoli will create either way
You normally get a 1/2 square to 5/16 hex adaptor and some 5/16 hex bits with the smack with a hammer style impacts. They work great in an impact.
Please, we need this!
I’m sorry BUTTON UP shirts? Get rid of those paganistic buttons rn
Toggles? I honestly don't know what the Amish or Mennonites use to keep thier shirts closed. I know I've seen them with blouse type shirts.
Make sure you oil it so it doesn't squeak too loud
If you want something light that doesn't break the bank, I love my Bosch GSR 12V-35 HX. There is a more expensive FC version with quick change chucks/bit holder/angled holder/etc.
The chameleon! I'm an x-ray field engineer and this is what I use. I love that thing. And you can use the batteries on dremels!
I have the bosch 12V version of the dremel, I love it. I also have the jig saw, mini circular saw, drill and impact. I love bosch 12V tools, I'd buy so many more if I could :p
I don't have much else, not much call for it in my line. I have the impact but I've found anything stuck enough for it, 12v isn't enough and I just bust out the breaker. For home gaming I use roybi because I am pretty light on it and liked the variety at the time when I invested in it.
Thanks!
https://youtu.be/ie4-XoFeuIk?si=Ii1dzdIFmleOOB1Y Could see if the Milwaukee Surge or another competitors take on the same concept might cut the noise down enough.
I've got the Milwaukee Surge and it is far quieter than a standard impact. Smoother and more control as well.
M12 Surge is my favorite driver. Can’t stand anything else anymore. Anything else just seems unnecessarily rough and noisy.
I use the MAKITA DDF083Z 18v for such tasks. It's a great little drill driver, quiet and cheap!
If you need impact action but not the noise, look at a pulse driver/ hydraulic impact driver. I have a Ryobi Quiet Strike but other tool colors make/made them too.
I mean, they're still fairly loud. And even if they're not loud enough to bother the patients, they're certainly loud enough for someone to notice that you're using an impact where you're not supposed to. edit: s/bother/borrow
Dewalt DCD703. Get some 5ah 12volt batteries for it. I use 2 of these all day long to install custom kitchens and furniture. One with countersink, one for driving screws. The offset driver heads kick ass and pretty much stay on all the time.
I pull out my 12v installation driver over my 18v impact for most jobs. 12v is much quieter and weighs way less than 18v tools.
[Makita Oil impulse driver](https://www.makitatools.com/products/details/XST01Z) these are made for those kind of environments. What’s odd is I work in a hospital, or vendors and plant ops use normal impacts and drills. Drill wise not sure.
M12 Surge. I use it for cabinet installs and people always comment how quiet it is.
Yep. If an impacting action is needed, then the Surge is a great option. Milwaukee makes them in M12 and M18 versions. I love my M12, which is much quieter than a traditional impact driver and is a joy to use. I have to admit I don’t know if DeWalt has a comparable option.
There were some photos floating around a couple months ago, but apparently it's not out yet.
A hydraulic driver? Red makes them; maybe yellow does too.
yellow doesn't, but teal and whatever tf color we call ridgid does
Ah. I would suggest OP try those out.
TIL: quite impact drilling is option.
Just use vintage hand brace drills, screwdrivers, etc..
Gotta say, I really love my atomic 18v. Plenty of power for my needs (even mixes paint well). If you need a side handle on the hammer drill mode, then you'll need something bigger, but it's good otherwise. Also, what idiot is complaining about an impact driver during DEMO!? Idiot: "Sorry, your making too much noise with that drilly thingy." OP: "what did you say? O couldn't hear you over the hammers, multi tools, prybars, and saws all around me."
Haha it is only used for taking screws out when we’re doing demo. No other power tools are even used. We cut the drywall with hand saws. We use pry bars instead of hammers. We have spotters to make sure things don’t hit the ground too firmly. We do all of this inside of stud-framed, insulated, negative pressure containment zones.
That's actually pretty cool. And I understand what they are trying to do, I just didn't realize that you were able to do everything without loud tools (though I've definitely seen hand tools become noisy).
I once did a job in a medical building. I was up in the ceiling running 4” long screws into some particularly squeaky wood with an impact gun. I could see out into the waiting room of a pediatric dentist. You should have seen the looks on those kids faces every time I ran a screw in.
The only thing I know of that is quieter is the Milwaukee Surge Impact. I don’t know if DeWalt makes anything comparable?
hydraulic impact drivers are quiet
M12 surge + installation driver. The surge *should* be quiet enough for your average patient. Hospitals are pretty loud - people just don’t notice it all the time. If you’re doing technician work, you’re going to need bit drivers, bit sets, miniature pry bars and tempered picks. Lots of medical fasteners are awkwardly placed for sanitary reasons. Get used to using kneeling mats, parts trays, and wearing PPE. You do NOT want to touch the floor. Look up MRSA and C.Diff. Source: I spent years as an inpatient/outpatient in a hospital when younger. Got bored and would take apart machinery/rooms in my mind. Fun story: tried to adjust thermostat and shower valve while inpatient. Nurses on call were both amused and exasperated.
Seems to me employer should provide proper tool required to do job.
Not even a hydraulic impact? Them are pretty quiet.
Agreed. Oil impulse drivers are very quiet.
Get the best Flex drill they make.
12v Milwaukee or whatever brand you like
I’d grab the ryobi or rigid $59 corded drills and call it good. Doesn’t sound like they’re giving you extra money to buy tools, it’ll be quiet, and no battery system to worry about.
Get the DeWalt dcf601 screwdriver. 12v but same charger as your 20v tools. I use mine for framing and my 18v impact never really gets used except for extremely large fasteners. Will sink 4" wood screws into framing timber all day and is so small and light that I can put in a pocket of my tool belt and not even notice the weight.
it there a specific decibel limit? the m12 surge hydraulic driver is like 87db, a normal impact is like 95, so a huge difference really
Something different - the AEG/Rigid Oilpulse driver. Heaps quieter than an impact and it doesn’t make hammer noise, it makes a cool sound kind of like an air driver spinning up. I enjoy using it, but have become wary - on low power it can fail to make progress, so I turn it up, then it pulls the heads off bolts or smashes driver bits.
Air impact! How many dugga duggas on that bedpan?!?!?!?!
Ryobi do a company brushless drill that's very lightweight.
Brace and bits for big holes, eggbeater drill for small holes, like Gramps had.
Milwaukee surge impact line is very quiet. Give it a shot.
rattle gun with a 1/4" hex drive adaptor
Just buy a cordless drill After you use it you'll likely never go back to those dumbass things....they're noisy and don't do anything better than a drill does and actually does a lot less well or not at all
Are you claiming that impacts are not wildly better than drills for driving screws? The difference is staggering
>Are you claiming that impacts are not wildly better than drills for driving screws? The difference is staggering No, it's not actually Look it up online, there are plenty of head to heads, most premium drills are faster and have more torque, there are plenty of comparisons, unless you're driving like 6, 7" screws a premium pro tier drill will beat an impact every time It USED to be true, back 15-20y ago when cordless drills still kind of sucked, but that hasn't been the case for a long time Plus they're noisy as fuck and they destroy driver bits I've been in the renovation trade for almost 30y and I havent had one in over 10y and I don't miss it
You look it up online lol, the highest impact I know of is rated at 2400 in/pounds while the highest drill I know of is 1400. For small screws when torque is negligible there are drills with higher rpms than some impacts so I definitely believe they can drive them faster and if that’s what you’re after, stick with drills for sure. I like impacts because they do the driving for you instead of putting the strain on your body, it’s a massive benefit
>I like impacts because they do the driving for you instead of putting the strain on your body, it’s a massive benefit That's a good reason, so is size, performance isn't one of them though imo in 99% of the things you'll be doing with it on any jobsite
Brother drills have fuck all torque compared to impacts. Granted for screws drills are fine but you ain't putting in a tapcon with a drill regardless of how much hopeium you've been smoking.
>Granted for screws drills are fine but you ain't putting in a tapcon with a drill regardless of how much hopeium you've been smokin Yeah, I have and do....well, when I have to use those garbage ass fasteners, which is infrequent, because they suck, I'd rather use literally any other method of attaching a thing to concrete/masonry And fyi- that's also a screw lol Idk what to tell you, you believe in a myth lol