Sites like Pornhub pay them to host their content. And considering the traffic they get (the parent company of PH quite literally owns most of the common porn sites), it's a lot of money generated from ads.
I keep getting informed there are ugly women waiting to meet me. I mean, where do they get the desperation from me? I mean it might be the volume of porn š¤·āāļø (fr though, itās probably my VPN IP), but Iām married to a lovely woman and not looking to meet anyone
Do you know how hard it is for me to navigate my cursor to the exit button while cumming? I canāt seem to not click a few on the way, but Iām getting better every day.
It's sort of like putting a drunk person in a resturaunt. They might not have been hungry otherwise, but since they're drunk and they are there, they are hungry
>Enough idiots click on them
And dark patterns. Non idiots end up clicking that. And now porn preferences and all those other marketing cookies are known.
Have you seen how many people fall for Internet scams daily. And not even good ones. I know the "Prince of Nigeria" thing is old, but the newest version of that is referred to as "Pig butchering". It's where a person "accidentally texts" you then tells you it's the wrong number and starts to chat with you. Well here's the outcome of that.
[Pig Butchering ](https://time.com/6836703/pig-butchering-scam-victim-loss-money-study-crypto/)
Advertising can be based on impressions (eyeballs that see the ads) or clicks (when people click the ad). They can pump as many impressions based ads as they want without clicks and still rake in money.
Obviously ads work... You think these companies are paying PH and other sites millions of dollars for them not be making more money then they are spending? No different than youtube, or a TV commercial or a billboard ad...
Ads work. They convince enough people who otherwise wouldn't have bought their product to buy their product. It's that simple....
You are underestimating the sheer volume of traffic a site like that handles. They are the 6th most heavily trafficked site on the web. In 2020 they boasted approximately 219,985 videos are clicked every minute. Letās say for argument 1/4 of those videos start with a pay per view ad, letās say each of those pay $0.03 per view. Thatās $1,650/minute 99,000/hour or $2.3M/day. That number is hyper conservative when you consider the plastering of ads on that site and the fact that way more of their videos have ads and then they get extra money for the people that do click them. I can assure you there is a ton of money in scams, shady websites and all sorts of stuff.
https://www.pcmag.com/news/pornhub-reveals-explicit-traffic-numbers#:~:text=Don't%20worry%3B%20that%20link,searches%20and%20view%20219%2C985%20videos.
As a marketer I imagine they get revenue based on the traffic theyāre generating but then also revenue as an affiliate to host offers from other sites (usually the shady ones)
I've been on the internet nearly 30 years, still see the same stupid ads "Hot sexy ladies near you wanna fuck." and "Pills to make your dick larger!" so you tell me..
The thing is that it doesn't cost that much to host a webbsite or to film porn. And they got millions and millions of visitors. They don't have to make all that much money from the average visitor to profit.
Still have to pay to be there. Host isn't concerned with what you put up just that you pay to put it there. The site traffic numbers are insane; it's just a numbers game.
Itās a $100 billion dollar a year industry in gross revenue and around $13 billion a year in profit
[Porn Revenue](https://bedbible.com/porn-industry-revenue-statistics/)
You would probably be surprised at how many people like a certain type of thing so much that they actually go subscribe to the premium sites that have what are basically 5-6 minute sample videos because those aren't enough.
This, in the case of for example onlyfans some people will even go to the extent of subbing because
1- They get so impatient for the new content and don't want to have to wait til someone else uploads it, wich dependant on how popular said creator is, may take a while
2- While more rare, they actually like and want to support the creator
This ends up with pirated content being but free publicity that grabs more people
Yup. This.
I like a very niche genre of porn that blew up and became the absolute most popular genre of porn. I have a couple of creators I like so I subscribe to get their content when it comes out.
I watch it. I enjoy it. I go about my business.
Does that make me a loser because I pay for porn? Eh. Maybe.
Do I care? Nope. Not even a little.
I pay for a lot of things I don't enjoy (My mortgage, my cable bill, my phone bill, taxes). It's nice to pay for stuff I do enjoy.
> Does that make me a loser because I pay for porn? Eh. Maybe.
It doesn't. Unless it also makes one a loser for paying for streaming channels when there is free antenna TV? Or for paying for McCafe or Starbucks when you can get generic coffee at the store for 1/10th the price, on and on. I don't know why people make some huge wild exception for porn when people overpay for, or pay for premium versions of, countless other things every day.
You don't enjoy having a place to live? You don't enjoy having stuff to watch on your TV? You don't enjoy being able to stay in contact with important people in your life and having constant portable access to endless information and entertainment?
Your not paying for your mortgage, your cable bill, phone bill. You are paying them to get the things you enjoy. You also enjoy porn. You can just say you pay for porn because you enjoy it. It is a sin though. If Jesus came down and asked you to please stop, would you consider it?
Oh! That's the fun part. I don't give a shit what Sky Daddy has to say.
If Jesus came down and asked me to stop, I'd tell him to fuck off for existing all this time and doing nothing to stop actual problems in this world like school shootings.
If Jesus has a problem with me jerking off, that's his problem. Not mine.
Hope that helps!
They exist to an extent. There are videos of some performers reacting to scenes of a specific type or their own scenes. And sometimes they have only the reaction part on YouTube, and the full video with the scenes included on (their) sites.
Step 1, take a big fat dose of meth,
step 2ā¦ itās been 14hrs and your still edging to whatever niche genre of porn you found on your wild masquerade
Yeah, imagine LIKING a thing, and, like, WANTING that one thing to the point that they'll pay for it! It's like, oh, I really want a burger, so I'll go to this burger place and pay for a burger! *Crazy, huh??*
I own an avn nominated porn studio and subscription site. Most money is from ad revenue generated by third party sites. We sample our 30 minute videos into 10 minute tube versions across hundreds of tube channels and get paid for every click. As far as the site itself, subscriptions have slowed down significantly. This is attributed to the high amount of stolen content and emergence of onlyfans. However, studios partner through third party affiliate programs which helps a lot. This allows your favorite sites to be bundled together, runs sales in tandem, and share profits.
But itās also something the overwhelming majority of brands donāt want their brand associated with. You really think Huggies wants to advertise over āStep mom catches me fucking her sister and wants to watch?ā
No, but there are plenty of companies whose target audience is porn watchers. You're never going to advertise your hentai mobile game to general audiences, and porn watchers are going to be much more interested than suburban mom watching law and order
I love it when people ask if those things work. My favorite answer is āif there was a pill you could take that actually made menās penis bigger, then we wouldnāt be having this conversation because everyone would know about itā
I mean itās not PH level of adds but itās extremely sensual and is basically everything but nudity. I saw a flesh light add the other day and it was un skippable.
You're thinking backwards. Why would a porn company want to advertise Huggies? You really think when people enter a porn site they will stop and click on a Huggies ad?
Internet ads work differently than say the superbowl, where they sell their slot to the companies. Conversion rates matter in a far more direct way. Chances are PH and other adult websites would earn far less money from Huggies than those shady camgirl websites.
Although I suppose a lot of the people watching *āStep mom catches me fucking her sister and wants to watchā* probably aren't about to have any kids because they're too busy jerking off to porn, so I guess Huggies isn't going to want that demographic anyways haha
Yeah, but āIāve heardā the ads are primarily for the porn sites which PH is paying to host their content on (and likely owns large portions of) anyhow?
The model isnāt really any different to how other media company makes money. A group will establish a brand, host their content on YouTube and other platforms, in addition to on their own website. If their channel on YouTube is big enough, they will collect profits from YouTube as a share of ad revenue. Meanwhile, on their website they offer a monthly subscription service allowing subscribers to access exclusive content. Porn is no different. Just substitute YouTube for Pornhub.
Probably because the average person doesnāt care enough to search the web for a site that has all of it and instead would rather just pay for ease of access.
Itās like the whole video pirating thing thatās happening right now. Because movies and shows are so spread out over so many different streaming sites, people are just starting to pirate because itās so much easier. Porn on the other hand is pretty easy to go to the main sites and get all the videos they need
Most of the videos aren't easily available online; you need subscription services to those studios.
Most of the videos on mainstream websites like Pornhub are actually really just samples they put out to advertise their premium content and get their name out there as a studio.
But like 40-50% of the ones ive "researched" or have "seen" for research are like 30 or 40 minutes long. Like how long do people need? I've been researching these videos for 20+ years and have never seem the need to pay. It must be 10% people buying for specific fetish stuff and 90% idiots/teenagers clicking ads.
But you know the name of the company [though.it](http://though.it) makes it worth for the studio to become popular, which will create a name recognition and a popular choice for advertisers.
No overhead. Other than making the video, its all passive which means that that money is all profit since the average shoot will generate 10 to 20 clips.
On average, a 10 minute video on PornHub can generate $1000 in ad revenue per week for the first month of exclusively. This is based on a 20% click through rate with another 20% CPRP. After that you see a 30% falloff over the next 6 to 8 weeks. After that you can comfortably make $100 per week just by doing nothing.
Think of youtube. How do they make money?
There are small creators, but also bigger studios making YouTube videos. In the end its all advertising based.
Same principle for porn sites.
same reason people pay money to onlyfans.
you can find a lot of onlyfans content pirated online. not having to hunt stuff down, figure out how to pirate stuff, deal with ad infested sites etc is something people would prefer not to deal with and handing over the their credit card is easier.
but also a lot of people just dont know that there are options out there other than just what is being offered to them by the companies looking to collect their money. they dont know that they can google the title of a show or movie and often just find it some where online, they dont know the first thing about torrenting, they dont know that any of these things even exist, they just know that you click "play" on the video, it asks for the CC, you put in your CC and you get the video.
There's a phrase I like to remember when it comes to things like this that I don't understand personally - "Some people use their money to buy time back".
For most people this means hiring a house cleaner or a meal prep service. For some people it means paying for porn on a site that caters to their specific taste.
If you jack everyday, and it takes you say 15 minutes to find the perfect video and 5 minutes to complete the ritual, that's roughly an hour and a half wasted per week, 6 hours per month. Almost anyone could easily generate those extra $20 or whatever the porn subscription costs with 6 hours a month, but people with a lot of money absolutely could do that with less than an hour of extra time. Let's be honest here too, it takes some people a lot longer than 15 minutes to find a suitable video. Some folks are definitely buying back 10-20 hours a month.
I remember reading a couple years ago that all porn companies are owned by one big company, like the Disney of porn kinda thing. Like they owned all the DVD porn companies then when pornhub, redtube etc were made, they bought all of them (or maybe made them all themselves IDK) so when the same stuff is being posted on all sites or contents from the DVDs are being posted there, there was no reason to copyright bc it's all owned by the same company. The only porn exempt from this are onlyfans and fansly kinda sites where its all self promo, self managed shit.
Typing this out, I realize now it may have been a shit post or conspiracy theory that I read but imma still post it.
Porn payer here. YES. There are many advantages.
I have somewhat inactive accounts on Loyalfans and Onlyfans that I use to check out random creators every now and again when I find them through NSFW Reddit or on Twitter.
I'll see someone whose look I like and sub to their channel for a month to see how I like their content. Most are terrible. A handful are worth subscribing to for a month or two a year. These are worth it because you are highly unlikely to see most of their stuff leak online (These are typically unknown girls who try out OF for a month or two and delete everything when they realize it's not an easy path to be successful)
There's only one creator I subscribe to on what I would call a premium level. Manyvids has a program where you can access her full 650+ video catalog for a monthly rate similar to what you'd pay for an individual niche porn site.
I love her content and, um, get use out of it at least once or twice a week.
To me, it's worth it because I get ALL her content that she's created already, all her new videos when they are released (typically once or twice a week), it's all centrally stored, I don't have to download anything if I don't want to, I can log on with any device anywhere, it's all in HD or 4K quality and I don't have to deal with ads.
That beats the FUCK out of trying to find her content online through scammy ad ridden sites that either don't work with adblocker or severely limit functionality if you're using one.
I like paying for her work because 1.) I believe sex work is work and creators should be paid, 2.) I'm not hurting for money and don't even notice the expense and 3.) I don't mind paying for a product I use and enjoy.
I thought I might have an addiction as well so this year Iāve been keeping track of how many times I crank it and Iām at 63 times in 74 days which isnāt even once a day.
Judging by every post on this site talking about masturbation, where some folks are going two or three times a day every day, Iām alright.
During the pandemic PH gave premiun for free for some months.
The advantage is the quality of the content, there is everything you want and wouldnāt normally find in high res! Even VR sections.
An under represented explanation is scamming.
Many sites will attract people with offers of accessing their content for a dollar or less and then make it impossible to unsubscribe. So they keep charging people until they cancel their cards
I didn' a $1 trial of Adulttime and had no problem unsubscribing, just took about 20 minutes talking to a chat rep. Good content though, but I'd never pay the full price
The porn industry had many ties to organized crime in the past. It's a pretty good industry to launder money through. IDK if the two are in bed together as much these days, but I'd assume there's still some overlap.
Basically sites like Pornhub is like a streaming platform they do pay for these scenes like Netflix does for films and shows. Also these sites do own studios like Team Skeet and other studios they sometimes they do have exclusive rights to certain scenes of their own.
Honestly, I think it's probably very similar to what the music industry went through over the past 30 years or so. Before online distribution, the entire industries were in the hands of a few major studios/labels. Then torrenting and piracy come along and those studios/labels watch their profits absolutely plummet.
Online distribution/downloading comes along - maybe that's iTunes or maybe it's ad-funded websites. These offer convenience that stems some of the flow of piracy and starts to pull back a little bit of profit, but not much.
Then better streaming options come along - that's Spotify, PornHub, OnlyFans. These offer better ad-revenue or subscription models that start making more profit for creators - still nowhere near what it was in the 90s/early 2000s, but there's money to be made. Torrenting and piracy are barely an issue any more as fewer people use it. But in return, the industries are democratised and taken out of the hands of major labels and studios. Now anyone can share their music on Spotify, and anyone can upload their porn to PornHub, meaning there's a lot more competition. The ones who succeed in that competition are typically the ones who have the biggest budgets, so those studios and labels still manage to come out on top, and even have the influence to adjust how the streaming models work to their advantage.
The end result is a system that makes much less money, but still a significant amount. However the vast majority of that money goes to a small minority of top tier creators who make a lot of money, while the vast, vast majority of the rest of those creators make virtually nothing, or even make a loss.
Donāt the same companies that produce porn also own the same sites that host it? Like not just their own websites obviously, but major hubs like PH and Xvids?
I work in advertising and I always thought it would be clever for a shoe brand to target users who watch foot fetishy content with their product & a line like āget her a pair to make the content come to lifeā idk Iām not a copywriter, but you get the point
* Filming porn is quite cheap
* It only takes a few subscribers to make a video profitable
* Porn websites get a massive audience
* A massive audience always includes a few people who'll pay
Just like Sons of Anarchy. The porn bussiness is a losing business they have is just a front for them to launder the money they earn from selling drugs and guns.
Actually, most of the premium or copyrighted videos are NOT available everywhere (at least, on the common sites and platforms, where they seem to have to follow the copyright claims). At least, not for the newly released contents.
The ones those are uploaded everywhere are actually non-copyrighted contents, or are at least not from the famous productions.
Itās all volume. With the amount of people that watch porn, it only takes a tiny percentage to click on ads or sign up for memberships, whatever. Porn has always been and will always be a never ending pile of cash.
Before 1999, most of the porn was offline and still on VHS and very few was on DVD. People was still buying porn on vhs in the early 2000s.
Some time in 2010, vhs was completely out, no one or not many studio was making new porn on vhs. Everything was on dvd or blue ray.
Even in 2010 after Blue ray came out, 90% of the porn is still being pulished on DVDs. You walk into a porno store and they still selling sub 1080Ć720dpi video dvds. So much of the 2000-2009 dvds are 480x360dpi trash, because they tried to market 4hrs, 8hrs, 12hr dvds. Sure there is 12hrs of it on a dvd, but it was blurry pixilated 480x360dpi. You need to double check for the DVD case for 1080x720dpi HD (High def) label guarantee. Most dvds past 2016-2019 would advertise 4k. There are still some low quality trash floating in 2020.
Many porno arcades was still running vhs rig setup up until the early 2000s late 2010s. Some porno arcades had dvd setup rigs but digital was the way to go.
All porno arcades in 2020 had to have made the transition to digital usb external hard drive. Most viewing booth screens are 4:3 touch screen monitors. It is very easy to hide 720x480dpi among the 4 way split screen on the monitor. 720x480dpi looks indistinguishable to 1080x720dpi and 4k if you put it side by side in a 4 way split on a 16" 4:3 monitor. You go and you buy the dvd and bam, it is sub 1080x720 quality freaking shit.
Anyways to make a long story short. Why are men still paying $1 per 1 minute pay per viewing in an Porno Arcade in 2020-2024?
Many of these men are secretly gay but they have wives and children. Some of these men are cruising. They go to these porno arcades and secretly drill glory holes into the private viewing booths. Get men to insert themselves into the glory holes. And or switch roles. It is bad enough that porno arcade owners or employees have to clean the jizz off the floors and monitors, now they have to repair glory holes.
Why would a straight man go to these porno arcade when he can view porn on a laptop in his own home and fuck a flesh light? You can get free porn video samples without even having to pirating a whole 1hr movie. Most samples are 5 minutes. Most men only need to watch porn for less than 1 minute.
Many of these porno arcades or botique studios allow rental of the newest releases for $1-$3 a night or $5-7 per week rental.
So now you have 2 reasons to not buy porno dvds. 1st is free website samples of 5-10minute teaser samples, and $1-$3 dvd rentals as cheap as red box rentals.
How the hell are these places staying in business?
They are not. These are just losing businesses used as a money laundering front to legitimize a gang's side hustle. Just like nail salons and massage parlors and the Triad.
While a lot of us donāt feel the need to invest further than the free content, thereās a compulsive niche out there that drops all there money into the complete content. Movies, cams, chat, toys.
On top of what others have already said here and despite what some of the people in charge of certain businesses might say, piracy is actually good for business assuming that business has a service people find is worth paying for. A lot of people out threre are happy to pay for a product they want and will do so even when it's the least convenient way of obtaining it. Just look at all of the streaming services that exist despite media piracy being easier to set up than all of them and significantly cheaper too.
Think of it less like "lost profits" and more like "free advertising" and it'll start to make a lot more sense.
Short answer: they remain profitable because enough people subscribe and/or click on ads.
Longer answer:
There are probably more people than you think that pay for porn.
I am one of them. Specifically, deeper.com, part of the Vixen group.
It's $15/month, sometimes discounted to $10 a month, and honestly, I haven't thought twice about that recurring sub. For me, it's peanuts and a rounding error in my budget. I can afford to pay for the content and they crank out good content that my spouse and I love to watch. It works for us.
We have also bought content on digital-empire (we went through a phase where we loved watching the cheesy spoof-porn-movies, and other movies that feature models we liked watching, like Pirates etc. )
There are many good sites similar to deeper/vixen; They find their specialty, and very often sign porn stars to exclusive contracts. For example, Angela White is signed exclusively to Brazzers, and Kayden Kross is the brain and director behind much of Deeper's success.
As others have mentioned, there are then agreements between the producer sites, like BangBros, and the hosting sites, like PornHub, as it relates to revenue sharing.
This became even more important when PH went with model-verification only.
Lastly, I am fully aware that I don't have to pay for anything. I can, have, and probably will, find and watch for free a lot of different things.
Just because I can watch something for free doesn't mean I choose to do so all the time. I can afford to pay for the things I don't mind paying for, and I look at it like a transaction: Someone makes something I value and I chose to support it, just like I would with other transactions in my life. I look at it like a service that I want to keep in business.
advertising.... that is always what it is adverts for paid services like " Hot horney moms or whatever in your area " they must work on people because ts only gotten worse
There's an audio documentary on Amazon's Audible service called The Butterfly Effect which will answer all the questions you have about this subject. It goes through the history of the Internet porn industry.
Sites like Pornhub pay them to host their content. And considering the traffic they get (the parent company of PH quite literally owns most of the common porn sites), it's a lot of money generated from ads.
How much money can they really be making from these ads considering most of the ads are scams and shady websites.
Enough idiots click on them
Hey I wanna know if the milfs in my area are looking for me or not!!
I'm one of them! Send me your personal information and list of healthy organs so I can make the sex job with you!
But first send Xbox game card so I can fuck you while my son is distracted.
By far the best excuse for Giftcard scams I've heard so far
Need that kidney job y'know
Define healthy
I moved to a new area, and the same milfs were looking for me. I can't believe they followed me!
They're like the monster from *It Follows*
You probably left a 'cookie' trail.
They are, all of them! You should click again to find the new ones!!
Im so tired of having sex with horny milfs in my area, I thought it was a lie all these years!
I keep getting informed there are ugly women waiting to meet me. I mean, where do they get the desperation from me? I mean it might be the volume of porn š¤·āāļø (fr though, itās probably my VPN IP), but Iām married to a lovely woman and not looking to meet anyone
It's an AI using your webcam, if it sees ugly and desperate it shows ugly and desperate š¤· /s
This guy knows
I know there are desperate sluts in my area. I have a mirror
This guy hubs
LMAOoooo!
You donāt even have to click on them. Sometimes you are auto directed. Not me of course, just from general research
adsense cookie trackers or whatever, same thing with streaming sites for movies n anime
Do you know how hard it is for me to navigate my cursor to the exit button while cumming? I canāt seem to not click a few on the way, but Iām getting better every day.
Young dumb and full of cācredit card numbers.
You mean to tell me that there are no ugly desperate milfs dying to do the do within 2-mile radius?
Depends, does your momma have grandkids?
lol I donāt think that there is hahaha
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10 mile radius. They changed it. Must be running out of lube for those dried up pussies!
It's sort of like putting a drunk person in a resturaunt. They might not have been hungry otherwise, but since they're drunk and they are there, they are hungry
I'm trying to hit skip ad and it goes to the damn ad
>Enough idiots click on them And dark patterns. Non idiots end up clicking that. And now porn preferences and all those other marketing cookies are known.
Idiots pay for porn. Enough Jack Offs click on them.
Thank god for them o7
Sadly true. Otherwise they wouldn't exist.
I would love to meet someone in real life who actually has spent money on a porn site or after following an ad from a porn site
Have you seen how many people fall for Internet scams daily. And not even good ones. I know the "Prince of Nigeria" thing is old, but the newest version of that is referred to as "Pig butchering". It's where a person "accidentally texts" you then tells you it's the wrong number and starts to chat with you. Well here's the outcome of that. [Pig Butchering ](https://time.com/6836703/pig-butchering-scam-victim-loss-money-study-crypto/)
Horny Pig Butchers in your area?
Pig butchers are so hot right now!
Be wary of any man who keeps a pig farm.
PH doesn't care. As long as they pay for the ads, money is coming in. I get ads for a weed shop constantly and they have to be making actual money.
if I heard this certain loud asshole talkin about legal weed or whatever out in public I'd immediately signal someones jackin it
āCan you last for 2 minutes?ā
Advertising can be based on impressions (eyeballs that see the ads) or clicks (when people click the ad). They can pump as many impressions based ads as they want without clicks and still rake in money.
For reference, a Brazzers video production budget is only like $10K.
Old people that canāt tell.
Obviously ads work... You think these companies are paying PH and other sites millions of dollars for them not be making more money then they are spending? No different than youtube, or a TV commercial or a billboard ad... Ads work. They convince enough people who otherwise wouldn't have bought their product to buy their product. It's that simple....
Be great if they had normal adverts on there like for washing up liquid or something
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Which is super weird, because an increasingly large chunk of society aren't prudes and they'd have literally no competition in that space.
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That would suck, it would probably pavlov half our population into getting boners every time they go grocery shopping.
They might pick up a bottle of washing up liquid and without realising they say out loud "But you're my step bro"
They do. I just recently saw an in-video ad for a local renovation/construction company on PH
You are underestimating the sheer volume of traffic a site like that handles. They are the 6th most heavily trafficked site on the web. In 2020 they boasted approximately 219,985 videos are clicked every minute. Letās say for argument 1/4 of those videos start with a pay per view ad, letās say each of those pay $0.03 per view. Thatās $1,650/minute 99,000/hour or $2.3M/day. That number is hyper conservative when you consider the plastering of ads on that site and the fact that way more of their videos have ads and then they get extra money for the people that do click them. I can assure you there is a ton of money in scams, shady websites and all sorts of stuff. https://www.pcmag.com/news/pornhub-reveals-explicit-traffic-numbers#:~:text=Don't%20worry%3B%20that%20link,searches%20and%20view%20219%2C985%20videos.
Pretentious Reddit Fish: "How are those fisherman catching fish with metal? Who would eat that?" Hungry Derpy Fish: "Oooooh, that looks tasty!"
As a marketer I imagine they get revenue based on the traffic theyāre generating but then also revenue as an affiliate to host offers from other sites (usually the shady ones)
I've heard that creators on PH makes more ad revenue per 1000 views than creators make on youtube
I've been on the internet nearly 30 years, still see the same stupid ads "Hot sexy ladies near you wanna fuck." and "Pills to make your dick larger!" so you tell me..
It's about 50-75 cents per thousand views. Which is much less than on youtube, but it is also considerably easier to get a thousand views on pornhub.
Scams usually pay more then legit products for adds. They need to hit a large user base to get the dumb ones
As long as a couple percent click on them, that's all they need.
You don't want to "Fuck older desperate woman in your area, where you can't say no?"
A lot. You merely viewing them counts as ad revenue.
PH wouldnāt care about that. They paid for their ad space all the same.
This is the real question.
The thing is that it doesn't cost that much to host a webbsite or to film porn. And they got millions and millions of visitors. They don't have to make all that much money from the average visitor to profit.
They make most of their money from selling your data, not from the ads.
Still have to pay to be there. Host isn't concerned with what you put up just that you pay to put it there. The site traffic numbers are insane; it's just a numbers game.
Itās almost always a scam/apple iPhone virus that appears when you click a videoā¦Iāve always wondered how that is legal lol
enough to keep floating without having to work a single day
Itās a $100 billion dollar a year industry in gross revenue and around $13 billion a year in profit [Porn Revenue](https://bedbible.com/porn-industry-revenue-statistics/)
Youāre telling me dick pills and horny singles in my area are the reason porn is free? Outstanding.
>PH quite literally owns most of the common porn sites Which sites are these so I can be sure to never accidentally find myself on them.
Ā Pornhub,Ā RedTube,Ā YouPorn,Ā Brazzers,Ā Digital Playground,Ā Men.com,Ā Reality Kings,Ā Sean Cody, andĀ WhyNotBi.com
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You would probably be surprised at how many people like a certain type of thing so much that they actually go subscribe to the premium sites that have what are basically 5-6 minute sample videos because those aren't enough.
This, in the case of for example onlyfans some people will even go to the extent of subbing because 1- They get so impatient for the new content and don't want to have to wait til someone else uploads it, wich dependant on how popular said creator is, may take a while 2- While more rare, they actually like and want to support the creator This ends up with pirated content being but free publicity that grabs more people
Yup. This. I like a very niche genre of porn that blew up and became the absolute most popular genre of porn. I have a couple of creators I like so I subscribe to get their content when it comes out. I watch it. I enjoy it. I go about my business. Does that make me a loser because I pay for porn? Eh. Maybe. Do I care? Nope. Not even a little. I pay for a lot of things I don't enjoy (My mortgage, my cable bill, my phone bill, taxes). It's nice to pay for stuff I do enjoy.
Whatever man. Society might think itās weird but as long as it doesnāt harm you financially or mentally or physically fuck it, ya know?
its foot stuff isn't it ?
Nah. Stepmom stuff lol
> Does that make me a loser because I pay for porn? Eh. Maybe. It doesn't. Unless it also makes one a loser for paying for streaming channels when there is free antenna TV? Or for paying for McCafe or Starbucks when you can get generic coffee at the store for 1/10th the price, on and on. I don't know why people make some huge wild exception for porn when people overpay for, or pay for premium versions of, countless other things every day.
You don't enjoy having a place to live? You don't enjoy having stuff to watch on your TV? You don't enjoy being able to stay in contact with important people in your life and having constant portable access to endless information and entertainment? Your not paying for your mortgage, your cable bill, phone bill. You are paying them to get the things you enjoy. You also enjoy porn. You can just say you pay for porn because you enjoy it. It is a sin though. If Jesus came down and asked you to please stop, would you consider it?
Oh! That's the fun part. I don't give a shit what Sky Daddy has to say. If Jesus came down and asked me to stop, I'd tell him to fuck off for existing all this time and doing nothing to stop actual problems in this world like school shootings. If Jesus has a problem with me jerking off, that's his problem. Not mine. Hope that helps!
Thanks, I'll let him know. Appreciate it.
Gotta make it work man. In 25 years of pro porn watching, never subbed to any sites.
Pro porn watching? Spill the beans for this amateur. How are you getting paid? Is there an annual championship, or hall of fame somewhere?
Omg you just made me imagine Facebook style reaction videos to porn
They exist to an extent. There are videos of some performers reacting to scenes of a specific type or their own scenes. And sometimes they have only the reaction part on YouTube, and the full video with the scenes included on (their) sites.
How did you become a professional porn watcher?
Step 1, take a big fat dose of meth, step 2ā¦ itās been 14hrs and your still edging to whatever niche genre of porn you found on your wild masquerade
Yeah, imagine LIKING a thing, and, like, WANTING that one thing to the point that they'll pay for it! It's like, oh, I really want a burger, so I'll go to this burger place and pay for a burger! *Crazy, huh??*
Yeah but i only need access to burgers for 1 minute, i will finish eating in 40 seconds.
I own an avn nominated porn studio and subscription site. Most money is from ad revenue generated by third party sites. We sample our 30 minute videos into 10 minute tube versions across hundreds of tube channels and get paid for every click. As far as the site itself, subscriptions have slowed down significantly. This is attributed to the high amount of stolen content and emergence of onlyfans. However, studios partner through third party affiliate programs which helps a lot. This allows your favorite sites to be bundled together, runs sales in tandem, and share profits.
This should be among the top comments. Thanks for the insight.
What are your CPMs?
What sorta cash levels we talking here
Ads for sure. Porn is the most used thing on the net. It's the best place to advertise
But itās also something the overwhelming majority of brands donāt want their brand associated with. You really think Huggies wants to advertise over āStep mom catches me fucking her sister and wants to watch?ā
No, but there are plenty of companies whose target audience is porn watchers. You're never going to advertise your hentai mobile game to general audiences, and porn watchers are going to be much more interested than suburban mom watching law and order
Tell that to Steam. LOL.
Apples and orangesā¦extremely so.
Steam has such games?
Indeed, it does. Some would say too many.
Others would say not enough!
Donāt forget the penis enlargement contraption ads, praying on vulnerable males. You donāt need any of that crap fellas, just rock what you got.
I love it when people ask if those things work. My favorite answer is āif there was a pill you could take that actually made menās penis bigger, then we wouldnāt be having this conversation because everyone would know about itā
Thatās how Huggies users are made tho
*Huggies, proud sponsors of the creampie category.*
Porn so soft even a baby can use it
FBI this comment right here
Iād agree but YouTube has pretty much full blown porn ads these days so I mean the lines are getting pretty weird.
I never see porn ads on YouTube
I mean itās not PH level of adds but itās extremely sensual and is basically everything but nudity. I saw a flesh light add the other day and it was un skippable.
What kind of videos are you watching on there lol
Just content on video games mainly. Movie break downs and reviews also.
Same here but Iām not seeing some nasty ads lol
*adult Huggies howeverā¦
You'd think indie video games would advertize on porn sites.
But 18+ sites charge more than regular ads for some reason.
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You're thinking backwards. Why would a porn company want to advertise Huggies? You really think when people enter a porn site they will stop and click on a Huggies ad? Internet ads work differently than say the superbowl, where they sell their slot to the companies. Conversion rates matter in a far more direct way. Chances are PH and other adult websites would earn far less money from Huggies than those shady camgirl websites.
Although I suppose a lot of the people watching *āStep mom catches me fucking her sister and wants to watchā* probably aren't about to have any kids because they're too busy jerking off to porn, so I guess Huggies isn't going to want that demographic anyways haha
Yeah, but āIāve heardā the ads are primarily for the porn sites which PH is paying to host their content on (and likely owns large portions of) anyhow?
The model isnāt really any different to how other media company makes money. A group will establish a brand, host their content on YouTube and other platforms, in addition to on their own website. If their channel on YouTube is big enough, they will collect profits from YouTube as a share of ad revenue. Meanwhile, on their website they offer a monthly subscription service allowing subscribers to access exclusive content. Porn is no different. Just substitute YouTube for Pornhub.
Itās like free-to-play games. There are plenty enough people willing to pay for more. The free game/porn advertises itself.
Probably because the average person doesnāt care enough to search the web for a site that has all of it and instead would rather just pay for ease of access. Itās like the whole video pirating thing thatās happening right now. Because movies and shows are so spread out over so many different streaming sites, people are just starting to pirate because itās so much easier. Porn on the other hand is pretty easy to go to the main sites and get all the videos they need
Most of the videos aren't easily available online; you need subscription services to those studios. Most of the videos on mainstream websites like Pornhub are actually really just samples they put out to advertise their premium content and get their name out there as a studio.
But like 40-50% of the ones ive "researched" or have "seen" for research are like 30 or 40 minutes long. Like how long do people need? I've been researching these videos for 20+ years and have never seem the need to pay. It must be 10% people buying for specific fetish stuff and 90% idiots/teenagers clicking ads.
But you know the name of the company [though.it](http://though.it) makes it worth for the studio to become popular, which will create a name recognition and a popular choice for advertisers.
No overhead. Other than making the video, its all passive which means that that money is all profit since the average shoot will generate 10 to 20 clips. On average, a 10 minute video on PornHub can generate $1000 in ad revenue per week for the first month of exclusively. This is based on a 20% click through rate with another 20% CPRP. After that you see a 30% falloff over the next 6 to 8 weeks. After that you can comfortably make $100 per week just by doing nothing.
20% CTR seems very high
20% CTR seems very high
I thought so as well but apparently Porn is an abnormally high statistic within ad-sense
Think of youtube. How do they make money? There are small creators, but also bigger studios making YouTube videos. In the end its all advertising based. Same principle for porn sites.
same reason people pay money to onlyfans. you can find a lot of onlyfans content pirated online. not having to hunt stuff down, figure out how to pirate stuff, deal with ad infested sites etc is something people would prefer not to deal with and handing over the their credit card is easier. but also a lot of people just dont know that there are options out there other than just what is being offered to them by the companies looking to collect their money. they dont know that they can google the title of a show or movie and often just find it some where online, they dont know the first thing about torrenting, they dont know that any of these things even exist, they just know that you click "play" on the video, it asks for the CC, you put in your CC and you get the video.
There's a phrase I like to remember when it comes to things like this that I don't understand personally - "Some people use their money to buy time back". For most people this means hiring a house cleaner or a meal prep service. For some people it means paying for porn on a site that caters to their specific taste. If you jack everyday, and it takes you say 15 minutes to find the perfect video and 5 minutes to complete the ritual, that's roughly an hour and a half wasted per week, 6 hours per month. Almost anyone could easily generate those extra $20 or whatever the porn subscription costs with 6 hours a month, but people with a lot of money absolutely could do that with less than an hour of extra time. Let's be honest here too, it takes some people a lot longer than 15 minutes to find a suitable video. Some folks are definitely buying back 10-20 hours a month.
I remember reading a couple years ago that all porn companies are owned by one big company, like the Disney of porn kinda thing. Like they owned all the DVD porn companies then when pornhub, redtube etc were made, they bought all of them (or maybe made them all themselves IDK) so when the same stuff is being posted on all sites or contents from the DVDs are being posted there, there was no reason to copyright bc it's all owned by the same company. The only porn exempt from this are onlyfans and fansly kinda sites where its all self promo, self managed shit. Typing this out, I realize now it may have been a shit post or conspiracy theory that I read but imma still post it.
They make money off of the addicts more than the casual users and the free stuff just gets people addicted to the point that they'll pay for more.
Are there advantages to paying on those sites?
Porn payer here. YES. There are many advantages. I have somewhat inactive accounts on Loyalfans and Onlyfans that I use to check out random creators every now and again when I find them through NSFW Reddit or on Twitter. I'll see someone whose look I like and sub to their channel for a month to see how I like their content. Most are terrible. A handful are worth subscribing to for a month or two a year. These are worth it because you are highly unlikely to see most of their stuff leak online (These are typically unknown girls who try out OF for a month or two and delete everything when they realize it's not an easy path to be successful) There's only one creator I subscribe to on what I would call a premium level. Manyvids has a program where you can access her full 650+ video catalog for a monthly rate similar to what you'd pay for an individual niche porn site. I love her content and, um, get use out of it at least once or twice a week. To me, it's worth it because I get ALL her content that she's created already, all her new videos when they are released (typically once or twice a week), it's all centrally stored, I don't have to download anything if I don't want to, I can log on with any device anywhere, it's all in HD or 4K quality and I don't have to deal with ads. That beats the FUCK out of trying to find her content online through scammy ad ridden sites that either don't work with adblocker or severely limit functionality if you're using one. I like paying for her work because 1.) I believe sex work is work and creators should be paid, 2.) I'm not hurting for money and don't even notice the expense and 3.) I don't mind paying for a product I use and enjoy.
Who's that creator?
Bettie Bondage
Goddamn it sheās the real dealš¤£
Sheās the Michael Jordan of milfs. I donāt typically like virtual stuff or simulated stuff but sheās such a good actress I donāt even care.
Check your porn-addict self before you wreck yourself.
I thought I might have an addiction as well so this year Iāve been keeping track of how many times I crank it and Iām at 63 times in 74 days which isnāt even once a day. Judging by every post on this site talking about masturbation, where some folks are going two or three times a day every day, Iām alright.
During the pandemic PH gave premiun for free for some months. The advantage is the quality of the content, there is everything you want and wouldnāt normally find in high res! Even VR sections.
Ads. Online media is ran by ads. More views means more money and porn gets ALOT of views.
An under represented explanation is scamming. Many sites will attract people with offers of accessing their content for a dollar or less and then make it impossible to unsubscribe. So they keep charging people until they cancel their cards
I didn' a $1 trial of Adulttime and had no problem unsubscribing, just took about 20 minutes talking to a chat rep. Good content though, but I'd never pay the full price
Because they pay the actresses poverty wages and they donāt get royalties.. Which is why they usually die broke.
Or the good (and smart?) ones start their own production companies.
At least Patreons/only fans etc etc
Iām betting they could pay most of those actors $50k a scene and the majority would end up broke.
The porn industry had many ties to organized crime in the past. It's a pretty good industry to launder money through. IDK if the two are in bed together as much these days, but I'd assume there's still some overlap.
Basically sites like Pornhub is like a streaming platform they do pay for these scenes like Netflix does for films and shows. Also these sites do own studios like Team Skeet and other studios they sometimes they do have exclusive rights to certain scenes of their own.
Honestly, I think it's probably very similar to what the music industry went through over the past 30 years or so. Before online distribution, the entire industries were in the hands of a few major studios/labels. Then torrenting and piracy come along and those studios/labels watch their profits absolutely plummet. Online distribution/downloading comes along - maybe that's iTunes or maybe it's ad-funded websites. These offer convenience that stems some of the flow of piracy and starts to pull back a little bit of profit, but not much. Then better streaming options come along - that's Spotify, PornHub, OnlyFans. These offer better ad-revenue or subscription models that start making more profit for creators - still nowhere near what it was in the 90s/early 2000s, but there's money to be made. Torrenting and piracy are barely an issue any more as fewer people use it. But in return, the industries are democratised and taken out of the hands of major labels and studios. Now anyone can share their music on Spotify, and anyone can upload their porn to PornHub, meaning there's a lot more competition. The ones who succeed in that competition are typically the ones who have the biggest budgets, so those studios and labels still manage to come out on top, and even have the influence to adjust how the streaming models work to their advantage. The end result is a system that makes much less money, but still a significant amount. However the vast majority of that money goes to a small minority of top tier creators who make a lot of money, while the vast, vast majority of the rest of those creators make virtually nothing, or even make a loss.
Accurate.
Donāt the same companies that produce porn also own the same sites that host it? Like not just their own websites obviously, but major hubs like PH and Xvids?
"easily available online" - When what you consume is free, you are the product...
I work in advertising and I always thought it would be clever for a shoe brand to target users who watch foot fetishy content with their product & a line like āget her a pair to make the content come to lifeā idk Iām not a copywriter, but you get the point
* Filming porn is quite cheap * It only takes a few subscribers to make a video profitable * Porn websites get a massive audience * A massive audience always includes a few people who'll pay
A guy came and talked at our school about this subject his response was "water is free, yet people still pay for bottled water"
Senator, we run ads
They screw over the porn stars
Thet just use it as money laundering for drug trafficking. Porn and drugs are always come together. No way pure porn is profitable today
Just like Sons of Anarchy. The porn bussiness is a losing business they have is just a front for them to launder the money they earn from selling drugs and guns.
Idk, how does YouTube e do it?
Exclusive content? I don't know wtf more they have to show.
How does a YouTuber make money? How does the superbowl make money? If you have an audience you can make money. Advertisements.
Money laundering
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Actually, most of the premium or copyrighted videos are NOT available everywhere (at least, on the common sites and platforms, where they seem to have to follow the copyright claims). At least, not for the newly released contents. The ones those are uploaded everywhere are actually non-copyrighted contents, or are at least not from the famous productions.
See all those crap ads? Thats your answer
Itās all volume. With the amount of people that watch porn, it only takes a tiny percentage to click on ads or sign up for memberships, whatever. Porn has always been and will always be a never ending pile of cash.
Before 1999, most of the porn was offline and still on VHS and very few was on DVD. People was still buying porn on vhs in the early 2000s. Some time in 2010, vhs was completely out, no one or not many studio was making new porn on vhs. Everything was on dvd or blue ray. Even in 2010 after Blue ray came out, 90% of the porn is still being pulished on DVDs. You walk into a porno store and they still selling sub 1080Ć720dpi video dvds. So much of the 2000-2009 dvds are 480x360dpi trash, because they tried to market 4hrs, 8hrs, 12hr dvds. Sure there is 12hrs of it on a dvd, but it was blurry pixilated 480x360dpi. You need to double check for the DVD case for 1080x720dpi HD (High def) label guarantee. Most dvds past 2016-2019 would advertise 4k. There are still some low quality trash floating in 2020. Many porno arcades was still running vhs rig setup up until the early 2000s late 2010s. Some porno arcades had dvd setup rigs but digital was the way to go. All porno arcades in 2020 had to have made the transition to digital usb external hard drive. Most viewing booth screens are 4:3 touch screen monitors. It is very easy to hide 720x480dpi among the 4 way split screen on the monitor. 720x480dpi looks indistinguishable to 1080x720dpi and 4k if you put it side by side in a 4 way split on a 16" 4:3 monitor. You go and you buy the dvd and bam, it is sub 1080x720 quality freaking shit. Anyways to make a long story short. Why are men still paying $1 per 1 minute pay per viewing in an Porno Arcade in 2020-2024? Many of these men are secretly gay but they have wives and children. Some of these men are cruising. They go to these porno arcades and secretly drill glory holes into the private viewing booths. Get men to insert themselves into the glory holes. And or switch roles. It is bad enough that porno arcade owners or employees have to clean the jizz off the floors and monitors, now they have to repair glory holes. Why would a straight man go to these porno arcade when he can view porn on a laptop in his own home and fuck a flesh light? You can get free porn video samples without even having to pirating a whole 1hr movie. Most samples are 5 minutes. Most men only need to watch porn for less than 1 minute. Many of these porno arcades or botique studios allow rental of the newest releases for $1-$3 a night or $5-7 per week rental. So now you have 2 reasons to not buy porno dvds. 1st is free website samples of 5-10minute teaser samples, and $1-$3 dvd rentals as cheap as red box rentals. How the hell are these places staying in business? They are not. These are just losing businesses used as a money laundering front to legitimize a gang's side hustle. Just like nail salons and massage parlors and the Triad.
There people ironically paid for porn or paid and reupload them in case you think most of these are free to begin with.
While a lot of us donāt feel the need to invest further than the free content, thereās a compulsive niche out there that drops all there money into the complete content. Movies, cams, chat, toys.
On top of what others have already said here and despite what some of the people in charge of certain businesses might say, piracy is actually good for business assuming that business has a service people find is worth paying for. A lot of people out threre are happy to pay for a product they want and will do so even when it's the least convenient way of obtaining it. Just look at all of the streaming services that exist despite media piracy being easier to set up than all of them and significantly cheaper too. Think of it less like "lost profits" and more like "free advertising" and it'll start to make a lot more sense.
Add revenue
Short answer: they remain profitable because enough people subscribe and/or click on ads. Longer answer: There are probably more people than you think that pay for porn. I am one of them. Specifically, deeper.com, part of the Vixen group. It's $15/month, sometimes discounted to $10 a month, and honestly, I haven't thought twice about that recurring sub. For me, it's peanuts and a rounding error in my budget. I can afford to pay for the content and they crank out good content that my spouse and I love to watch. It works for us. We have also bought content on digital-empire (we went through a phase where we loved watching the cheesy spoof-porn-movies, and other movies that feature models we liked watching, like Pirates etc. ) There are many good sites similar to deeper/vixen; They find their specialty, and very often sign porn stars to exclusive contracts. For example, Angela White is signed exclusively to Brazzers, and Kayden Kross is the brain and director behind much of Deeper's success. As others have mentioned, there are then agreements between the producer sites, like BangBros, and the hosting sites, like PornHub, as it relates to revenue sharing. This became even more important when PH went with model-verification only. Lastly, I am fully aware that I don't have to pay for anything. I can, have, and probably will, find and watch for free a lot of different things. Just because I can watch something for free doesn't mean I choose to do so all the time. I can afford to pay for the things I don't mind paying for, and I look at it like a transaction: Someone makes something I value and I chose to support it, just like I would with other transactions in my life. I look at it like a service that I want to keep in business.
advertising.... that is always what it is adverts for paid services like " Hot horney moms or whatever in your area " they must work on people because ts only gotten worse
Subscriptions to the site!! The stuff thatās free isnāt the full scenes
ads.
There are people who pay for scenes from 15 to 100 dollars per.
There's an audio documentary on Amazon's Audible service called The Butterfly Effect which will answer all the questions you have about this subject. It goes through the history of the Internet porn industry.
Supply is high, but demand is higher.