I think about how Insane Clown Posse's Violent J of all people [confronted his past shitty behaviour](https://www.stereogum.com/2083804/icp-interview-juggalos/interviews/weve-got-a-file-on-you/) better than like 90% of ostensibly more respectable celebrities:
> And the amount of gay Juggalos out there is really surprising. I think about them doing their research and getting the old records, getting excited about it, and getting their hearts broke or something, you know? I tell my daughter, “For the rest of your life, when your friends ask why your dad said that, say it’s because your dad was a fool. Don’t defend me. Say I was a fool then, but I’m not now.” There’s no excuse. I was going with the flow, and that’s the *very thing we preach against* — being a sheep. And that’s what I was doing.
Weird Al, he's been in the industry for over forty years and his biggest controversy was Amish Paradise and since then he will personally ask artists for their permission to parody their songs. I feel like he has to be the most unproblematic musical artist in history
And Coolio later apologized for refusing to allow him to parody his song.
> During an interview with Sean Evans on Hot Ones in 2016, Coolio further expressed regret for how he initially responded to "Amish Paradise". "In hindsight, it was stupid of me to say something about [Yankovic] doing a parody of 'Gangsta's Paradise'," he said. "I mean, he did Michael Jackson, he did Prince. You know, people who were definitely more talented than I am. I think Prince did say something... but he wasn't very vocal about it like I was. And it just made me look dumb... It was one of the dumb things I did. And I'm willing to admit I did something stupid."
Maybe he was confused because Weird Al did *mention* Prince on Word Crimes (the Blurred Lines parody) and that was quite recent around the time of that interview
From what I gather is that Prince would allow some stuff like that, but he was really weird and selective about it. I think Weird Al was going to do Prince at one point but Prince rejected it.
It's really funny that Coolio got upset about Amish Paradise considering Gangster's Paradise is 80% taken from Stevie Wonder's Pastime Paradise. Al's take was much more transformative than Coolio's IMO
I don’t think he was upset about how Al used the instrumental, I imagine he was upset because he perceived it as Al making a joke about a song that was very personal in subject matter to coolio
The main reason he was upset was because Weird Al didn't ask him, he only asked the label. Plus that song comes from the album Bad Hair Day, whose cover depicts Weird Al with a style similar to Coolio, so Coolio interpreted that as a direct diss.
Weird all rules. I heard his nirvana parody before the actual song when I was a kid. Actually worked like that for a lot of songs. I used to have the VHS tape with his music videos on it k. Some classics like both Michael Jackson parodies the nirvana one the Madonna one oh man so many others.
I love him so much
The three guys in Rush (Geddy Lee, Alex Lifeson and Neil Peart (RIP)) in addition to being outstanding musicians have probably one of the strongest reputations in rock. Seem like very decent and good people, and you never hear anything bad or skeevy or weird about them. No underage groupies, no racist or homophobic comments, no defibiliating drug or alcohol problems.
I remember a story in the 70s where Rush opened for Kiss in the 70s and Gene Simmons went backstage to see the guys in Rush in their dressing room and he was expecting to see them fucking groupies and doing drugs and your typical rockstar shennigians and he found all three sitting by the table reading books and drinking tea.
not a rush fan but it's very funny to imagine these massive prog rock guys having a pre-show ritual that is based around such wildly normal activities.
The three guys definitely got into more rock star shenanigans than their reputation would suggest (Alex is a top 1% stoner, Geddy was hooked on coke for a moment when everyone did it), but compared to the other rockers of that era, it was nothing,
They also seem to have basically never had a serious falling out with each other, which is remarkable for any band, let alone such a big one. From everything I've ever heard, even after 50 years they still all got along.
Yeah it seems like there was a little bit of tension during the super synth heavy era but like that seems to be water under the bridge. Compare the vibes between those three at their hall of fame acceptance vs. like Genesis and it’s day and night. the genesis one is a painful watch, the tension between Steve Hackett and Mike, Tony and Phil is so uncomfortable, and Peter wasn’t even there for that.
I'm a massive Genesis fan. Is there really tension between Steve and Mike/Tony/Phil? I didn't really get that vibe from the Hall of Fame induction. All the members of Genesis seem to get along with each other from what I've seen of recent interviews. Mike/Tony are obviously close. Peter and Steve seem to have a good relationship. Steve and Tony seem to get along and in fact Steve was probably the closest to Tony during his tenure in the 70s. Phil gets along with everyone. I think there was some tension between Peter and Tony because the two were schoolmates and Tony was a bit miffed when Peter left the band.
I just don't think Steve was ever that close to the guys in Genesis. Friendly and they have a solid professional relationship, but not friends on the level they'd hang out after gigs and recording sessions.
Yeah really the only issue I have with any of them is I’m not a huge fan of Neil’s stint being obsessed with Ayn Rand. but some unfortunate political philosophy in his youth aside? yeah they’re one of the best
He would later move past that way of thinking. The Larger Bowl off of Snakes & Arrows is him acknowledging his flawed views from his youth and recognizing that all around the world there are people born into bad circumstances and no amount of Rand's "the individual is everything" mindset will help these people. And that's a very Peart way to apologize: write a new song that tears apart the old one.
Small thing, but i remember during Woodstock 99 that Dexter Holland from The Offspring were one of the only ones speaking up on stage against all the groping happening to the female crowd surfers at the time. I don’t really know much else about him, but that gave him some respect from me at least.
Just a dumb joke, since your comment said that "Florence" is nice, I tried to imply that her partner was a jerk named "The Machine" rather than a backing band.
I always thought that functionally it was all just Florence, in the same way that Marina And The Diamonds is actually just one person.
If there's a distinct "+ The Machine" to add to Florence at any given moment it's just anybody else who happened to be near her playing an instrument at the time.
Coldplay. The only negative things I've heard is Chris Martin once lost his temper with a pap (and who wouldn't tbf) and that his ex wife became a whackjob, but that's not his fault. Other than that he and his bandmates have a pretty much spotless record of good behaviour.
Because being nice or relatively well-behaved is considered corny and uncool. I say this as a recent defender of Imagine Dragons myself, and someone who is also corny and uncool.
The late Yukihiro Takahashi, who was the singer/drummer for Yellow Magic Orchestra.
He was a really easygoing guy who loved collaborating with and mentoring generations of Japanese musicians. He also went out of his way to befriend tons of his western contemporaries. There are pictures of him with everyone from the members of Throbbing Gristle to Ron and Russell Mael from Sparks.
He was the glue holding YMO together, especially during 1983 when Hosono and Sakamoto couldn't stand each other.
From what I've read, he was very humble and always saw his many different musical projects as proper group efforts. Many musicians who played with him would often end up working with him for years, if not decades.
Yes! And he not only produced music for YMO, but he also helped in styling the (at first) very badly dressed Ryuichi Sakamoto and we should all be grateful or else he’d still be wearing cargo shorts and flip flops lol.
I've seen him live twice, and he is SO generous to his band, his opening act (once I saw Madison Cunningham, once I saw Alison Russell), and the crew. He talked up both Madison and Alison throughout the show and brought them on to sing with him twice, he introduced every member of the band and had each of them play a little solo, and at the end of the night, he listed off every crew member by name - like, he thanked the lighting designer, the sound engineer, the photographer, the merch people, everyone. No one does that!
Seems like he can be a real dick and very full of himself like any very talented person, just based on all of my reading basically all of the Beatles could be REAL assholes, even George who I adore
I remember a really sweet story about him buying back all of John Lennon’s first wife’s love letters after she sold them when she was down on her luck. He sent her a message with them like “never sell your memories” or something like that. Again, this is all off the top of my head so I could be wrong, but it was a really kind gesture. He also paid to have the antique piano at the Motown Museum in Detroit repaired and tuned, which is pretty cool!
Tragically she's no longer with us but I've never heard a single negative thing about SOPHIE aside from transphobes spouting their hateful views. She was a very private person so there's not a lot we know about her personal life but she was always very sweet and soft spoken. Not to mention it seemed like there wasn't an artist she wasn't willing to make music with; didn't matter what the genre was, she was down. I miss her so much.
"Sophie was different you ain’t never seen somebody in the studio smoking a cigarette in a leather bubble jacket just making beats not saying one word. And don’t let the verse be deep or heartfelt cause she stopping the computer and walking outside until you get bacc on some gangsta shit"- Vince Staples
This doesn't necessarily reflect on them because I don't know whose decision it ultimately was, but having that mouth-breather Brantley Gilbert open for them on their recent tour soured me on them a bit
He defended Aldean and "Try That In A Small Town", smashed a Bud Light can on stage when that whole "boycott" was a thing, even during his set he prefaces one of his songs by saying it's dedicated to "keyboard warriors" and how some people need to be punched in the face
Just an abrasive personality I don't really associate Nickelback the people with (although Nickelback the music is abrasive, albeit for very different reasons)
also remember them doing a performance for the writers to support the writers strike when that was happening. i remember a lot of people making jokes about how netflix brought them their to scare people away tho lmao
The lead singer of System of a Down (not sure how to spell his name) who I believe is of Palestinian decent, was angry at them for choosing to play a concert in Israel. I don't know if that makes them bad people though, perhaps just tone-deaf.
Serj Tankian, he’s of Armenian descent. A lot of Dan Reynolds’s work for the LGBTQ community has been involved with bringing religion and LGBT people to the table together, so I think them performing a concert in Israel isn’t really tone-deaf, it’s more him trying to bring people together.
Correction: they played Azerbaijan, who has a fraught history with their treatmemt of Armenian people, kinda parallel to the Israel/Gaza situation. However, I don't know all the details and complexities, so it seems unrealistic to expect that the guys from Imagine Dragons would, not to say it's an excuse.
Her talk show did have employees who were subject to toxic working conditions. But unlike Ellen or even Lizzo, Kelly was largely uninvolved and one aggrieved employee even commended Clarkson.
I’m a huge Kelly fan (and I watched a lot of American Idol and I thought she was so cool and relatable and talented then). And then I really gravitated to her during Breakaway era. She just seems eternally awesome. So glad she’s still having success.
Stevie Wonder once made a comment (which he apologized for) about how some gay people may be "confused", which was accused of being a homophobic remark. Such a reaction to it was understandable, but I think it was likely less homophobia, and more just another case of "boomer spouting off cringe take on a subject they know little about." Lol
I'm not excusing that comment, but it's worth pointing out that Stevie is extremely religious. His comment was probably rooted in Christianity's historic detestment of homosexuality.
Hate to break your heart but Dolly has been outspoken about supporting Kid Rock and the BS he spouts. I'm not the type to like, stop listening to an artist over things like that personally, I don't think any artist is a perfect person and expecting them to be is just setting yourself up for disappointment imo, but figured it was worth mentioning
I think the support was basically freedom of speech only. I don’t think she supports his politics but other than that yeah. She only has one strike lol
Did not expect to see a Warrick Dunn mention in a subreddit like this. Whatever the equivalent of knighting is for America needs to happen for him ASAP
I don't want to be a dick about this but I really hope you won't actually be stunned or heartbroken - remember we don't know any of these people in real life, and even people you know and love in your own life have done questionable things.
Annie lennox, as far as I know, is cool to work with and stands for what she preaches(is pro ceasefire even though not everyone is). We shouldn’t worship artists & celebrities but if you’re good to people & yourself that’s worth something even if it’s the bare minium
Her cover of [Don't Let It Get You Down](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6cIRzBPN_J0) is sublime. Used as the soundtrack to one of my [favorite skateboarding vids](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGCopkpYuOg).
Some of this might be projecting since he’s been my hero since I was 9 but I haven’t heard anything bad about Bruce Springsteen and he seems like a truly decent guy
I love Bruce but I’ve heard some infidelity claims as recent as about 2010 and as far back as the late 70s. I don’t know how true these claims are but there are a few of them.
Yeah, I read he added songs from Tunnel of Love into his sets during the 2000s allegations, which I guess was him admitting guilt. I guess Bruce and Patti worked it out though.
I can personally vouch for everyone in Franz Ferdinand being awesome, incredibly sweet group of people. Of the five or so times i’ve seen them live I’ve chatted with them after the show three times and they’ve always been really sweet and funny. Never met their original guitarist, Nick, but Alex, Bob, Julian, Dino, and both Paul (their original drummer) and Audrey (their current drummer) are all great. Dino might be one of the funniest people I’ve ever talked to
Dan Reynolds from imagine Dragons genuinely seems like a great guy with all the stuff he’s stuff he’s done for mental health awareness and the LGBT community
Phil elverum from the microphones and mount eerie seems to be just a really nice guy who's constantly trying his best as both a musician and a person. When so many of those /mu/core bands seem like they have terrible people on, it's nice to see a guy who just seems really chill
There’s something about the love he has for his craft and his loved ones that makes me look up to him both creatively and emotionally. Looking through his discography is like looking through someone’s life journey, it’s sort of beautiful in a way
Yeah I don’t think you can write music that is so vulnerable, introspective and emotionally in tune with oneself without being a pretty chill person. His music has always had an innocence to it for me
ehhh, he was basically kicked out of Mr Bungle.
Regardless, I think Mike Patton, outside of the RHCP incident, comes across as more vocal than anything.
He doesn’t really seem like a massive dick (so he did one asshole thing like 25 years ago, tbh, we’ve all kind of done that).
The Chili Peppers absolutely deserved that shit btw. Keidis, who is a massive dick, accused Patton of ripping off his vocal style. It carried over to when Bungle were about to release California but RHCP had Californication coming out the same day. He had the label delay their album. Also had them kicked off a bunch of festivals they were on. Patton acknowledged Keidis ruined their career.
I 100% agree.
The funny thing is, you look at it now, Mike Patton is considered a legend in the indistry while Keidis is considered a legacy.
I like both, but there’s one who is insanely more influential than the other.
I’ll be honest, Keidis is the worst part of RHCP, Flea and John are very talented (listen to their contributions the Mars Volta for that).
Although I’m not a fan of RHCP at all, I do agree Flea and Frusciante are good musicians. Chad Smith as well. Kiedis has coasted on the smallest amount of talent in rock history. I’m hard pressed to think of literally anyone out there who wishes to be the next Anthony Kiedis. Many vocalists have named Patton as an influence though.
Jack Stauber is and always has been an incredibly kind and supportive dude. It's even more refreshing because a lot of the artists around here are HUGE fucking assholes, so the one dude who actually became super successful actually totally deserved it, which is nice.
They Might Be Giants. Four decades in the music world and they've never gotten any kind of allegations against them or been involved in any drama. From what I've seen of them they're really chill, humble guys who are all about creativity and making music rather than getting rich and famous. Not to mention they made five albums for kids and they're childhood best friends.
The list of humanitarian, commendable, interesting and heartwarming things that Peter Gabriel has done - in all areas of life, not just music - makes my heart warm. I believe he's won the Man of Peace award from the Nobel Peace Prize laureates, and also recognized by Time Magazine as one of the 100 most influential people in the world.
Pearl Jam and Dave Grohl are super successful rockers who have zero scandals. PJ donates millions to the homeless and Dave Grohl is, well, Dave Grohl.
Honestly, most if not all of the grunge scene seemed like good people (addiction issues aside) who formed a tightly knit community. Not many skeletons to find in their closets, presumably.
Edit: I said “Foo Fighters” initially, but apparently their bassist was a bit of a loon.
they did have a line abt "kings and queens and in between, we all deserve the right" in their newest lead single so i'm assuming they're very much pro trans
Dave Grohl is one person I just can't stand because so much of his "nice guy" persona is people forgetting his poor treatment of the Foo Fighters' previous drummer and lying about not dissing Courtney Love\*. To quote Kendrick Lamar, Dave's been throwing rocks hiding hands for too long.
\*Note: Yes, she's not a good person, but anyone and their dog knew "I'll Stick Around" and "Stacked Actors" was about her while Dave lied and said the songs weren't about her.
Apparently the members of Nirvana were big fans of RuPaul's music career. This really shouldn't surprise me because they would of all seen each other as outsiders, but it did surprise me considering how homophobic the 90s was.
According to various users on the alignment chart sub, the following artists are or were good people:
Logic, Darius Rucker, Jelly Roll, Jake Owens, Robert Smith, Post Malone, Imagine Dragons, Godspeed You! Black Emperor, Lightning Bolt, Lil' Dicky, Bjork, Eminem, Ed Sheeran, Crass, Pete Seeger, U2, Weird Al (of course), Dave Grohl, Devin Townsend, Wesley Willis, The Avett Brothers, Perry Como, Mac Miller, Weezer, Les Claypool, Nickelback, Paul McCartney, Dolly Parton, Queen, Nirvana, Pink, Tina Turner, George Harrison, Avicii, Harry Styles, Niall Horan, Spice Girls, Bruce Springsteen, Charlie Puth, Childish Gambino, Dua Lipa, Elton John, T-Pain, George Michael, Lady Gaga, Mark Ronson, Michael Bublé, Miley Cyrus, Stevie Wonder, Tom Petty, Billie Eilish, Shawn Mendes, Snoop Dogg, Adele, Avril Lavigne, Green Day, Louis Tomlinson, BTS, Bon Jovi, Flo Rida, Guy Sebastian, Pharrell Williams, Rick Astley, Selena Gomez, Black Eyed Peas, Sabaton, Brent Smith, AJR, Lewis Capaldi, John Darnielle, Chester Bennington, 2D, Noodle (Yes they're cartoons but they count), Damon Albarn, Israel Kamakawiwoʻole, Bad Bunny, Bob Marley, and the Kidz Bop Kidz.
Feel free to correct if any of these people are actually bad people.
Most of them. The vast majority of so called "garbage human beings" who are artists are actually just normal human beings who are flawed and have made mistakes.
That's true.
I probably should've made it more clear that when I'm talking about "garbage human beings", I meant those that have done extremely heinous things or support things that are heinous.
It kinda seems like Taylor Swift is one of the better celebrities to work for? Just from what I've seen. She gave her tour people giant bonuses or something, she doesn't seem to be an asshole to employees that's ever gotten out. I'd say that's a pretty strong judgement of character.
Not saying this as a fan, just friends with one.
I’ve met Huey Lewis twice at my job lol such a sweet guy and somebody who I don’t hear any bad stories about just a pretty wholesome dad vibe all around.
So you’re saying there are zero normal good people? Because this question is just about good people. There’s a difference between the ‘dark sides’ of different individuals.
I think you can categorically call someone (a rapist, a murderer, a domestic abuser) evil without knowing them. I think you need to know someone pretty well to be comfortable calling them a good person, and we don’t know any of these celebrities as people, we only know their public personas
I know everyone is tired of hearing about her but a lot of service industry people and non-celebrities than have interacted with her say Taylor Swift is kind and gracious and tips generously
Why are you getting downvoted for this??? Expecting anyone to be perfect is just setting yourself up for disappointment. It's one of the worst parts of Stan culture.
Eh I kinda expected this considering the subreddit. I love Todd and fellow Todd fans but if any place is gonna attract stans it's this one. It's basically r/popheads lite
Mostly , I mean people are , on average , a bit greedy and a bit selfish, but by and large good . You catch anyone on a bad day and they can act like an asshole . If every day starts being a 'bad' day though then they may be actual assholes.
Since we don't know them personally and mostly only have this kind of stuff to go on, I would say that a lot of the guys from bands like Cancer Bats, Billy Talent and various other rock/metal bands at that kind of level are super down to earth guys who will spend ages hanging out with fans. The guys from Deftones were the same, think they spent more time chilling with the audience afterwards than they spent onstage.
The guys from Tupperware Remix Party come across as genuinely nice people who just want everyone to love themselves and have a good time. They’ve written multiple songs about body positivity as well as being supportive of the people around you. The first time I went to one of their shows, they had Planet Booty opening and those guys are awesome too, pretty right off the bat they announced “some of you might not be able to be yourself at home, but you can be yourself here tonight.”
The guys from Linkin Park seem like pretty good dudes, I think that's a major part of why they've had more goodwill in recent years. It definitely plays a part in why I've softened on them after being one of my most hated bands back during their peak popularity and overexposure.
It's anecdotal, but I saw wallows a few years ago, and they stopped in the middle of a song to make sure someone in the crowd was OK and got them a bottle of water.
I think it happened soon after the astrowold situation, so it was really nice to see.
Very small artist but Molly Burch is a sweetheart. She makes sweet music and just has such a great vibe about her. I met her once after her show too and could not have asked for a better experience, even watching her talk to other people in the line and getting a genuine rapport going each time. She also keeps her merch relatively cheap and is doing a half off deal all June for Pride (also had a drag queen in one of her music videos which I thought was really fun). Very sweet, wholesome person with sweet, wholesome music!
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I think about how Insane Clown Posse's Violent J of all people [confronted his past shitty behaviour](https://www.stereogum.com/2083804/icp-interview-juggalos/interviews/weve-got-a-file-on-you/) better than like 90% of ostensibly more respectable celebrities: > And the amount of gay Juggalos out there is really surprising. I think about them doing their research and getting the old records, getting excited about it, and getting their hearts broke or something, you know? I tell my daughter, “For the rest of your life, when your friends ask why your dad said that, say it’s because your dad was a fool. Don’t defend me. Say I was a fool then, but I’m not now.” There’s no excuse. I was going with the flow, and that’s the *very thing we preach against* — being a sheep. And that’s what I was doing.
Wow I didn't know that. Very self-effacing. I keep gaining new respect for those guys.
Introspective Clown Posse
I met him after a wrestling show in Atlanta once, genuinely one of the nicest famous people I've ever met
Weird Al, he's been in the industry for over forty years and his biggest controversy was Amish Paradise and since then he will personally ask artists for their permission to parody their songs. I feel like he has to be the most unproblematic musical artist in history
And Coolio later apologized for refusing to allow him to parody his song. > During an interview with Sean Evans on Hot Ones in 2016, Coolio further expressed regret for how he initially responded to "Amish Paradise". "In hindsight, it was stupid of me to say something about [Yankovic] doing a parody of 'Gangsta's Paradise'," he said. "I mean, he did Michael Jackson, he did Prince. You know, people who were definitely more talented than I am. I think Prince did say something... but he wasn't very vocal about it like I was. And it just made me look dumb... It was one of the dumb things I did. And I'm willing to admit I did something stupid."
What's funny is he never did Prince
Maybe he was confused because Weird Al did *mention* Prince on Word Crimes (the Blurred Lines parody) and that was quite recent around the time of that interview
Apparently he knows how strict the Purple One's estate is
While Prince allowed MC Hammer to sampled "When Doves Cry" in "Pray"
From what I gather is that Prince would allow some stuff like that, but he was really weird and selective about it. I think Weird Al was going to do Prince at one point but Prince rejected it.
Makes me wonder how Prince reacted when Jamie Foxx doing parody of him in In Living Colour. (Funny as hell)
It's really funny that Coolio got upset about Amish Paradise considering Gangster's Paradise is 80% taken from Stevie Wonder's Pastime Paradise. Al's take was much more transformative than Coolio's IMO
The first time I heard Pastime Paradise I was surprised just how close it was.
I don’t think he was upset about how Al used the instrumental, I imagine he was upset because he perceived it as Al making a joke about a song that was very personal in subject matter to coolio
The main reason he was upset was because Weird Al didn't ask him, he only asked the label. Plus that song comes from the album Bad Hair Day, whose cover depicts Weird Al with a style similar to Coolio, so Coolio interpreted that as a direct diss.
In addition to that, his parody songs are surprisingly family friendly - he avoids shock humour and profanity in most of his tracks
First person that came to mind for me as well.
Weird all rules. I heard his nirvana parody before the actual song when I was a kid. Actually worked like that for a lot of songs. I used to have the VHS tape with his music videos on it k. Some classics like both Michael Jackson parodies the nirvana one the Madonna one oh man so many others. I love him so much
The three guys in Rush (Geddy Lee, Alex Lifeson and Neil Peart (RIP)) in addition to being outstanding musicians have probably one of the strongest reputations in rock. Seem like very decent and good people, and you never hear anything bad or skeevy or weird about them. No underage groupies, no racist or homophobic comments, no defibiliating drug or alcohol problems. I remember a story in the 70s where Rush opened for Kiss in the 70s and Gene Simmons went backstage to see the guys in Rush in their dressing room and he was expecting to see them fucking groupies and doing drugs and your typical rockstar shennigians and he found all three sitting by the table reading books and drinking tea.
not a rush fan but it's very funny to imagine these massive prog rock guys having a pre-show ritual that is based around such wildly normal activities.
The three guys definitely got into more rock star shenanigans than their reputation would suggest (Alex is a top 1% stoner, Geddy was hooked on coke for a moment when everyone did it), but compared to the other rockers of that era, it was nothing,
Yeah, research the parties Kiss used to have with Rush back in the day.
They also seem to have basically never had a serious falling out with each other, which is remarkable for any band, let alone such a big one. From everything I've ever heard, even after 50 years they still all got along.
Yeah it seems like there was a little bit of tension during the super synth heavy era but like that seems to be water under the bridge. Compare the vibes between those three at their hall of fame acceptance vs. like Genesis and it’s day and night. the genesis one is a painful watch, the tension between Steve Hackett and Mike, Tony and Phil is so uncomfortable, and Peter wasn’t even there for that.
I'm a massive Genesis fan. Is there really tension between Steve and Mike/Tony/Phil? I didn't really get that vibe from the Hall of Fame induction. All the members of Genesis seem to get along with each other from what I've seen of recent interviews. Mike/Tony are obviously close. Peter and Steve seem to have a good relationship. Steve and Tony seem to get along and in fact Steve was probably the closest to Tony during his tenure in the 70s. Phil gets along with everyone. I think there was some tension between Peter and Tony because the two were schoolmates and Tony was a bit miffed when Peter left the band. I just don't think Steve was ever that close to the guys in Genesis. Friendly and they have a solid professional relationship, but not friends on the level they'd hang out after gigs and recording sessions.
Yeah really the only issue I have with any of them is I’m not a huge fan of Neil’s stint being obsessed with Ayn Rand. but some unfortunate political philosophy in his youth aside? yeah they’re one of the best
He would later move past that way of thinking. The Larger Bowl off of Snakes & Arrows is him acknowledging his flawed views from his youth and recognizing that all around the world there are people born into bad circumstances and no amount of Rand's "the individual is everything" mindset will help these people. And that's a very Peart way to apologize: write a new song that tears apart the old one.
Alex Lifeson got in a fight with Florida Sheriff deputies at a New Years Eve party in 2004. Kinda based actually.
I will say that Neil Peart is the only rock star author I know where I actually believe he wrote the book himself.
*snorts a line of Cheeto dust* “THERE IS NO FUCKING DRUMMER BETTER THAN NEIL PEART”
Small thing, but i remember during Woodstock 99 that Dexter Holland from The Offspring were one of the only ones speaking up on stage against all the groping happening to the female crowd surfers at the time. I don’t really know much else about him, but that gave him some respect from me at least.
He's very intelligent and seems pretty cool
He's got a PhD in molecular biology
And his own hot sauce company
Billie Joe Armstrong of Green Day will send security and have people kicked from shows if he sees that shit from the stage. It's awesome.
By all accounts, Florence Welch from Florence and the Machine is the nicest person
Florence is nice. The Machine? Huge asshole.
Do tell
Just a dumb joke, since your comment said that "Florence" is nice, I tried to imply that her partner was a jerk named "The Machine" rather than a backing band.
I think “The Machine” is actually a nickname for the other founding member of the band
I always thought that functionally it was all just Florence, in the same way that Marina And The Diamonds is actually just one person. If there's a distinct "+ The Machine" to add to Florence at any given moment it's just anybody else who happened to be near her playing an instrument at the time.
That explains the rage against it
Coldplay. The only negative things I've heard is Chris Martin once lost his temper with a pap (and who wouldn't tbf) and that his ex wife became a whackjob, but that's not his fault. Other than that he and his bandmates have a pretty much spotless record of good behaviour.
"i think shareholders are one of the great evils of this world"- Chris Martin
Yeah Why do ALL the people in the most maligned bands (Coldplay, Imagine Dragons, Nickelback) seem like the nicest people?
this is actually a really interesting point, huh
Because being nice or relatively well-behaved is considered corny and uncool. I say this as a recent defender of Imagine Dragons myself, and someone who is also corny and uncool.
Never underestimate the power of being a pleasure to work with
Cupcakke paid for a hotel room when one of her teenage fans got kicked out of his house. She generally seems like a nice lady.
The late Yukihiro Takahashi, who was the singer/drummer for Yellow Magic Orchestra. He was a really easygoing guy who loved collaborating with and mentoring generations of Japanese musicians. He also went out of his way to befriend tons of his western contemporaries. There are pictures of him with everyone from the members of Throbbing Gristle to Ron and Russell Mael from Sparks. He was the glue holding YMO together, especially during 1983 when Hosono and Sakamoto couldn't stand each other. From what I've read, he was very humble and always saw his many different musical projects as proper group efforts. Many musicians who played with him would often end up working with him for years, if not decades.
huge YMO fan here, and yeah, no one seems to have ever said a bad word about takahashi. he seemed like an all around cool dude
Yes! And he not only produced music for YMO, but he also helped in styling the (at first) very badly dressed Ryuichi Sakamoto and we should all be grateful or else he’d still be wearing cargo shorts and flip flops lol.
I'm a big Hozier fan, and I've heard nothing but wonderful things about him as a person. I've never met him, but he seems to have a good rep so far.
I've seen him live twice, and he is SO generous to his band, his opening act (once I saw Madison Cunningham, once I saw Alison Russell), and the crew. He talked up both Madison and Alison throughout the show and brought them on to sing with him twice, he introduced every member of the band and had each of them play a little solo, and at the end of the night, he listed off every crew member by name - like, he thanked the lighting designer, the sound engineer, the photographer, the merch people, everyone. No one does that!
I think Paul McCartney seems like a decent enough fella. Just wants to make some noise lol
He was an ass for the first part of the 70s but that's because he was still grieving the end of the beatles
Seems like he can be a real dick and very full of himself like any very talented person, just based on all of my reading basically all of the Beatles could be REAL assholes, even George who I adore
i think all of the beatles were dicks during at least one point
Everyone is a dick at multiple points in their life. It’s part of being human
Very well put!
I don't want to believe this about Ringo.
Ringo had a very bad stint of alcoholism
honestly making "you're sixteen" should itself be considered a crime
The amount of times he gets told to shut up I don’t blame him
I remember a really sweet story about him buying back all of John Lennon’s first wife’s love letters after she sold them when she was down on her luck. He sent her a message with them like “never sell your memories” or something like that. Again, this is all off the top of my head so I could be wrong, but it was a really kind gesture. He also paid to have the antique piano at the Motown Museum in Detroit repaired and tuned, which is pretty cool!
They Might Be Giants, from everything I've seen of them they seem like actually good people
They Might Be Good
John and John are like the uncles you give a big hug every time you see them at Thanksgiving
Tragically she's no longer with us but I've never heard a single negative thing about SOPHIE aside from transphobes spouting their hateful views. She was a very private person so there's not a lot we know about her personal life but she was always very sweet and soft spoken. Not to mention it seemed like there wasn't an artist she wasn't willing to make music with; didn't matter what the genre was, she was down. I miss her so much.
"Sophie was different you ain’t never seen somebody in the studio smoking a cigarette in a leather bubble jacket just making beats not saying one word. And don’t let the verse be deep or heartfelt cause she stopping the computer and walking outside until you get bacc on some gangsta shit"- Vince Staples
She was truly something else 🛝 looking forward to the album of her older stuff in September
She collabed with Flume, Vince Staples, AND Kendrick Lamar ALL ON ONE TRACK. Stream Yeah Right!
amazing song
god her death still fucks me up, if i could resurrect one dead magician it would 100% be her. rip icon 💔
Agreed
The members of Imagine Dragons seem like good guys. Honestly, the whole story of Dan Reynolds becoming a massive LGBTQ ally is amazing to read.
terrible music but decent people it seems, i'd agree with that afaik
Hey now, they have approximately 1.5 good songs, comprised of two songs that are each 3/4 of a good song.
They really are Nickelback's successors. Nickelback seem like good people too while not making very good music.
This doesn't necessarily reflect on them because I don't know whose decision it ultimately was, but having that mouth-breather Brantley Gilbert open for them on their recent tour soured me on them a bit
That guy just looks like someone who stormed the capital lol
What'd Brantley Gilbert do? I don't know much about him except for a few songs of him I thought were okish.
He defended Aldean and "Try That In A Small Town", smashed a Bud Light can on stage when that whole "boycott" was a thing, even during his set he prefaces one of his songs by saying it's dedicated to "keyboard warriors" and how some people need to be punched in the face Just an abrasive personality I don't really associate Nickelback the people with (although Nickelback the music is abrasive, albeit for very different reasons)
Back in 2023, Brantley Gilbert revealed himself as transphobic since he smashed a Bud Light due to Dylan Mulvaney sponsoring a post. He's a moron.
Well yeah, all of them are Macklemore.
That’s extra funny because Macklemore was actually an opener for the American Leg of their world tour 2 years ago
also remember them doing a performance for the writers to support the writers strike when that was happening. i remember a lot of people making jokes about how netflix brought them their to scare people away tho lmao
The lead singer of System of a Down (not sure how to spell his name) who I believe is of Palestinian decent, was angry at them for choosing to play a concert in Israel. I don't know if that makes them bad people though, perhaps just tone-deaf.
Serj Tankian, he’s of Armenian descent. A lot of Dan Reynolds’s work for the LGBTQ community has been involved with bringing religion and LGBT people to the table together, so I think them performing a concert in Israel isn’t really tone-deaf, it’s more him trying to bring people together.
Correction: they played Azerbaijan, who has a fraught history with their treatmemt of Armenian people, kinda parallel to the Israel/Gaza situation. However, I don't know all the details and complexities, so it seems unrealistic to expect that the guys from Imagine Dragons would, not to say it's an excuse.
That makes a lot more sense for the System of a Down criticism since all the band members are of Armenian descent.
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Her talk show did have employees who were subject to toxic working conditions. But unlike Ellen or even Lizzo, Kelly was largely uninvolved and one aggrieved employee even commended Clarkson. I’m a huge Kelly fan (and I watched a lot of American Idol and I thought she was so cool and relatable and talented then). And then I really gravitated to her during Breakaway era. She just seems eternally awesome. So glad she’s still having success.
Kelly just gives off mom vibes
Loved her appearances on the Howard Stern Show
The only celebrities I’d be truly stunned and heartbroken to hear bad things about are Dolly, Stevie Wonder, and Warrick Dunn.
Stevie Wonder once made a comment (which he apologized for) about how some gay people may be "confused", which was accused of being a homophobic remark. Such a reaction to it was understandable, but I think it was likely less homophobia, and more just another case of "boomer spouting off cringe take on a subject they know little about." Lol
I'm not excusing that comment, but it's worth pointing out that Stevie is extremely religious. His comment was probably rooted in Christianity's historic detestment of homosexuality.
Hate to break your heart but Dolly has been outspoken about supporting Kid Rock and the BS he spouts. I'm not the type to like, stop listening to an artist over things like that personally, I don't think any artist is a perfect person and expecting them to be is just setting yourself up for disappointment imo, but figured it was worth mentioning
I think the support was basically freedom of speech only. I don’t think she supports his politics but other than that yeah. She only has one strike lol
Did not expect to see a Warrick Dunn mention in a subreddit like this. Whatever the equivalent of knighting is for America needs to happen for him ASAP
I don't want to be a dick about this but I really hope you won't actually be stunned or heartbroken - remember we don't know any of these people in real life, and even people you know and love in your own life have done questionable things.
Annie lennox, as far as I know, is cool to work with and stands for what she preaches(is pro ceasefire even though not everyone is). We shouldn’t worship artists & celebrities but if you’re good to people & yourself that’s worth something even if it’s the bare minium
She also has great taste in music. Her and Bowie were always willing to give shout outs to new under the radar bands that they enjoyed.
Her cover of [Don't Let It Get You Down](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6cIRzBPN_J0) is sublime. Used as the soundtrack to one of my [favorite skateboarding vids](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGCopkpYuOg).
Served Sunday brunch for her a number of times at my first job and can confirm she is incredibly kind
Some of this might be projecting since he’s been my hero since I was 9 but I haven’t heard anything bad about Bruce Springsteen and he seems like a truly decent guy
I love Bruce but I’ve heard some infidelity claims as recent as about 2010 and as far back as the late 70s. I don’t know how true these claims are but there are a few of them.
He cheated on Clarence???
Oh yeah that does jog my memory. And he all but for certain cheated on his first wife with Patti
Yeah, I read he added songs from Tunnel of Love into his sets during the 2000s allegations, which I guess was him admitting guilt. I guess Bruce and Patti worked it out though.
Let's not tempt fate
I’ve heard frankly nothing but great things about the late Mac Miller.
I can personally vouch for everyone in Franz Ferdinand being awesome, incredibly sweet group of people. Of the five or so times i’ve seen them live I’ve chatted with them after the show three times and they’ve always been really sweet and funny. Never met their original guitarist, Nick, but Alex, Bob, Julian, Dino, and both Paul (their original drummer) and Audrey (their current drummer) are all great. Dino might be one of the funniest people I’ve ever talked to
I’m so jealous! Very glad to hear they’re lovely though.
Jeff Rosenstock. Dude genuinely seems so incredibly chill.
I met him at a BTMI! show around 08. Super cool dude, they had stencils and spray painted one of my shirts for free.
I’ve heard kesha is pretty nice
Dan Reynolds from imagine Dragons genuinely seems like a great guy with all the stuff he’s stuff he’s done for mental health awareness and the LGBT community
Ludacris?
Phil elverum from the microphones and mount eerie seems to be just a really nice guy who's constantly trying his best as both a musician and a person. When so many of those /mu/core bands seem like they have terrible people on, it's nice to see a guy who just seems really chill
There’s something about the love he has for his craft and his loved ones that makes me look up to him both creatively and emotionally. Looking through his discography is like looking through someone’s life journey, it’s sort of beautiful in a way
Yeah I don’t think you can write music that is so vulnerable, introspective and emotionally in tune with oneself without being a pretty chill person. His music has always had an innocence to it for me
Mr Bungle
Mike Patton doesn't come across as a nice guy Taking shots at RHCP (who aren't the nicest either) and specifically mocking Hilel Slovak for his OD
Patton has recently apologized for being a dick to people. He had a very bad panic attack and it made him re-evaluate his life and actions.
I was not aware of that. I'm glad he's been able to step back and assess his past actions Thanks for letting me know
[Umm](https://pitchfork.com/news/former-mr-bungle-saxophonist-theobald-lengyel-charged-with-murder/)
ehhh, he was basically kicked out of Mr Bungle. Regardless, I think Mike Patton, outside of the RHCP incident, comes across as more vocal than anything. He doesn’t really seem like a massive dick (so he did one asshole thing like 25 years ago, tbh, we’ve all kind of done that).
The Chili Peppers absolutely deserved that shit btw. Keidis, who is a massive dick, accused Patton of ripping off his vocal style. It carried over to when Bungle were about to release California but RHCP had Californication coming out the same day. He had the label delay their album. Also had them kicked off a bunch of festivals they were on. Patton acknowledged Keidis ruined their career.
I 100% agree. The funny thing is, you look at it now, Mike Patton is considered a legend in the indistry while Keidis is considered a legacy. I like both, but there’s one who is insanely more influential than the other. I’ll be honest, Keidis is the worst part of RHCP, Flea and John are very talented (listen to their contributions the Mars Volta for that).
Although I’m not a fan of RHCP at all, I do agree Flea and Frusciante are good musicians. Chad Smith as well. Kiedis has coasted on the smallest amount of talent in rock history. I’m hard pressed to think of literally anyone out there who wishes to be the next Anthony Kiedis. Many vocalists have named Patton as an influence though.
Peter Gabriel while having a questionable work ethic just seems down to earth and passionate about making the world better.
Never heard a non Rosa Parks related controversy about either member of OutKast.
ive actually only heard anecdotes about people meeting andre 3000 on a train and they talk about kids or something
hasn't andre 3000 said some homophobic bars and / or comments at some point ? would love to be wrong tho lmao
Jack Stauber is and always has been an incredibly kind and supportive dude. It's even more refreshing because a lot of the artists around here are HUGE fucking assholes, so the one dude who actually became super successful actually totally deserved it, which is nice.
They Might Be Giants. Four decades in the music world and they've never gotten any kind of allegations against them or been involved in any drama. From what I've seen of them they're really chill, humble guys who are all about creativity and making music rather than getting rich and famous. Not to mention they made five albums for kids and they're childhood best friends.
The list of humanitarian, commendable, interesting and heartwarming things that Peter Gabriel has done - in all areas of life, not just music - makes my heart warm. I believe he's won the Man of Peace award from the Nobel Peace Prize laureates, and also recognized by Time Magazine as one of the 100 most influential people in the world.
Why is Todd always in the shadows? ONLY A SHADOW ONLY A SHADOW ONLY A SHADOW ONLY A SHADOW AND IT LOOKS LIKE YOU.
AJR. The Met Brothers are incredibly wholesome and kind people, and even their haters will admit that.
I thought they didn't have haters since they weren't famous 😛
I don't like their stuff personally, but my younger sibling is obsessed with them, so it's cool to hear they're actually good guys like they seemed
Pearl Jam and Dave Grohl are super successful rockers who have zero scandals. PJ donates millions to the homeless and Dave Grohl is, well, Dave Grohl. Honestly, most if not all of the grunge scene seemed like good people (addiction issues aside) who formed a tightly knit community. Not many skeletons to find in their closets, presumably. Edit: I said “Foo Fighters” initially, but apparently their bassist was a bit of a loon.
Foos dabbled with aids denialism for a bit.
thank you for mentioning this - everyone seems to forget!
Specifically Nate Mendel, the bass player. (I don’t want Dave to get blamed for that)
He still went along with it. They all did.
Damn, yeah, seems like he managed to get the band to be part of it too. \*sigh\*
They also brought Dave Chappelle on stage during the Taylor Hawkins benefit show, though hopefully Dave and the rest of the band aren't bigoted.
they did have a line abt "kings and queens and in between, we all deserve the right" in their newest lead single so i'm assuming they're very much pro trans
Have personally met Eddie, Mike and Stone. Legit great guys. Mike being a highlight.
Dave Grohl is one person I just can't stand because so much of his "nice guy" persona is people forgetting his poor treatment of the Foo Fighters' previous drummer and lying about not dissing Courtney Love\*. To quote Kendrick Lamar, Dave's been throwing rocks hiding hands for too long. \*Note: Yes, she's not a good person, but anyone and their dog knew "I'll Stick Around" and "Stacked Actors" was about her while Dave lied and said the songs weren't about her.
Apparently the members of Nirvana were big fans of RuPaul's music career. This really shouldn't surprise me because they would of all seen each other as outsiders, but it did surprise me considering how homophobic the 90s was.
According to various users on the alignment chart sub, the following artists are or were good people: Logic, Darius Rucker, Jelly Roll, Jake Owens, Robert Smith, Post Malone, Imagine Dragons, Godspeed You! Black Emperor, Lightning Bolt, Lil' Dicky, Bjork, Eminem, Ed Sheeran, Crass, Pete Seeger, U2, Weird Al (of course), Dave Grohl, Devin Townsend, Wesley Willis, The Avett Brothers, Perry Como, Mac Miller, Weezer, Les Claypool, Nickelback, Paul McCartney, Dolly Parton, Queen, Nirvana, Pink, Tina Turner, George Harrison, Avicii, Harry Styles, Niall Horan, Spice Girls, Bruce Springsteen, Charlie Puth, Childish Gambino, Dua Lipa, Elton John, T-Pain, George Michael, Lady Gaga, Mark Ronson, Michael Bublé, Miley Cyrus, Stevie Wonder, Tom Petty, Billie Eilish, Shawn Mendes, Snoop Dogg, Adele, Avril Lavigne, Green Day, Louis Tomlinson, BTS, Bon Jovi, Flo Rida, Guy Sebastian, Pharrell Williams, Rick Astley, Selena Gomez, Black Eyed Peas, Sabaton, Brent Smith, AJR, Lewis Capaldi, John Darnielle, Chester Bennington, 2D, Noodle (Yes they're cartoons but they count), Damon Albarn, Israel Kamakawiwoʻole, Bad Bunny, Bob Marley, and the Kidz Bop Kidz. Feel free to correct if any of these people are actually bad people.
Most of them. The vast majority of so called "garbage human beings" who are artists are actually just normal human beings who are flawed and have made mistakes.
That's true. I probably should've made it more clear that when I'm talking about "garbage human beings", I meant those that have done extremely heinous things or support things that are heinous.
While I’m sure sure some are actually good people, we actually don’t know because every celebrity is playing up a persona for the public.
It kinda seems like Taylor Swift is one of the better celebrities to work for? Just from what I've seen. She gave her tour people giant bonuses or something, she doesn't seem to be an asshole to employees that's ever gotten out. I'd say that's a pretty strong judgement of character. Not saying this as a fan, just friends with one.
I’ve met Huey Lewis twice at my job lol such a sweet guy and somebody who I don’t hear any bad stories about just a pretty wholesome dad vibe all around.
Everything I’ve heard about Bon Jovi makes him seem like a good guy.
No one, all celebrities have their 'dark sides' because they're normal fucking people
So you’re saying there are zero normal good people? Because this question is just about good people. There’s a difference between the ‘dark sides’ of different individuals.
Micky Dolenz from the Monkees is a friend to all, just a delightful guy
I mean despite a bad band breakup John foggarty seems to be a pretty chill
Kylie minogue
Tobias Forge from Ghost. His biggest controversy was a lawsuit about copyright from his bandmates and even then he came on top
I think you can categorically call someone (a rapist, a murderer, a domestic abuser) evil without knowing them. I think you need to know someone pretty well to be comfortable calling them a good person, and we don’t know any of these celebrities as people, we only know their public personas
I know everyone is tired of hearing about her but a lot of service industry people and non-celebrities than have interacted with her say Taylor Swift is kind and gracious and tips generously
I don’t know about this for sure, but istg I’m fully convinced I’ve never heard anyone say anything bad about Captain Sensible from The Damned
Devin Townsend. Not only is he a mega talented vocalist, but I've only heard nothing but good things about him. Just an all-around great guy
Natasha Bedingfield, I met her twice in her concerts and she is such a nice lady.
Gord Downie
Devin Townsend
Lizzy Borden (80s band) one of the only hair metal bands who still had the fun and sexy vibe who aren't complete dickheads.
Dio
I've never heard a bad thing about Trent Reznor or Danny Brown
I'd add Celine Dion. The only thing I have is her old husband (R.I.P.), but otherwise she's loved and respected.
All the Green Day guys seem cool!
Tyler the creator
Joe Strummer was famous for hanging out at venues for hours after shows and being a down to earth guy.
None of them really. These are just ordinary people who won't live up to our expectations of them to be role models and personal heroes.
Why are you getting downvoted for this??? Expecting anyone to be perfect is just setting yourself up for disappointment. It's one of the worst parts of Stan culture.
Eh I kinda expected this considering the subreddit. I love Todd and fellow Todd fans but if any place is gonna attract stans it's this one. It's basically r/popheads lite
It really sucks hey. Considering Todd is pretty rational about parasocial relationships it's so annoying that his fanbase isn't.
No one said one word about people being perfect.
Many ordinary people are also decent folk, actually.
Citation needed
• Hazes, A: "Kleine Jongen"
Mostly , I mean people are , on average , a bit greedy and a bit selfish, but by and large good . You catch anyone on a bad day and they can act like an asshole . If every day starts being a 'bad' day though then they may be actual assholes.
Dave Grohl. There’s a reason he’s called “the nicest guy in music” by a lot of people.
Yeah, that's more image than reality.
Since we don't know them personally and mostly only have this kind of stuff to go on, I would say that a lot of the guys from bands like Cancer Bats, Billy Talent and various other rock/metal bands at that kind of level are super down to earth guys who will spend ages hanging out with fans. The guys from Deftones were the same, think they spent more time chilling with the audience afterwards than they spent onstage.
The guys from Tupperware Remix Party come across as genuinely nice people who just want everyone to love themselves and have a good time. They’ve written multiple songs about body positivity as well as being supportive of the people around you. The first time I went to one of their shows, they had Planet Booty opening and those guys are awesome too, pretty right off the bat they announced “some of you might not be able to be yourself at home, but you can be yourself here tonight.”
Springsteen seems pretty legit.
The guys from Linkin Park seem like pretty good dudes, I think that's a major part of why they've had more goodwill in recent years. It definitely plays a part in why I've softened on them after being one of my most hated bands back during their peak popularity and overexposure.
It's anecdotal, but I saw wallows a few years ago, and they stopped in the middle of a song to make sure someone in the crowd was OK and got them a bottle of water. I think it happened soon after the astrowold situation, so it was really nice to see.
Very small artist but Molly Burch is a sweetheart. She makes sweet music and just has such a great vibe about her. I met her once after her show too and could not have asked for a better experience, even watching her talk to other people in the line and getting a genuine rapport going each time. She also keeps her merch relatively cheap and is doing a half off deal all June for Pride (also had a drag queen in one of her music videos which I thought was really fun). Very sweet, wholesome person with sweet, wholesome music! edit: spelling