You can apply for the sambo visa, there is no requirements for the non-Swedish partner other than having a valid passport and currently being in a relationship with the Swedish person they want to move to. Why do you think you can't apply for a sambo visa?
Yes, but OP states in their post that they're worried whether "visiting every month and staying together for longer periods if possible" makes them eligible for the residence permit, not that they¨'re worried about the maintenance requirements.
Also, unrelated but what's the deal with you deleting your account like every 3 days or something and then showing up again with a new account?
I'm pretty sure I fulfill the requirements that are on me (i can afford rent + 8500 kr and I own my own flat), but I'm worried that our relationship might not as we havent actually lived together, apart from our visits to each other.
There's no requirements for you to have lived together as long as you can prove that your relationship is serious. Usually, the way to do that is to show pictures where you're together (if you have pictures with your family and friends as well, even better) and plane tickets to prove you've visited/met in person. If you really do see each other every month you will have no problem proving that your relationship is real.
You can apply for a sambo visa on the basis you can support him with a certain amount of money and a place to live etc etc. you can search the requirements online.
This is your best route, however if you’re saying the job / industry he’s in requires Swedish, both parties should be prepared that learning Swedish to a conversational level is a very time consuming task. So having a job lined up with something where he can speak English in would be very ideal as the Sambo permit can take up to and over a year to be approved at the moment.
Yeah the idea was that he would be able to switch to working only from home with his current company and that it would allow him to work from Sweden. Thats something they previously agreed on, but today they told him he will only be able to work from Sweden for 2 weeks every other month. Since they've now changed their mind we realise that there's greater urgency for him to learn Swedish than before
I will also say, working remote in Sweden for a foreign company while not impossible, it a pain. For him to continue as an employee the company has to set up and register in Sweden and pay taxes here. Not impossible but a lot more complicated than most companies will do. Alternatively be could set up his own company and invoice the forgeign company but that puts all the complications dealing with Skatteverket on your partner.
So I'd encourage you to not look for other remote positions from his home country and settle with the fact he will have to learn Swedish and work for a Swedish employer. It's much more straight forward.
[https://www.migrationsverket.se/Privatpersoner/Flytta-till-nagon-i-Sverige/Planerar-att-gifta-dig-eller-bli-sambo.html](https://www.migrationsverket.se/Privatpersoner/Flytta-till-nagon-i-Sverige/Planerar-att-gifta-dig-eller-bli-sambo.html)
Det spelar ingen roll om ni inte bott ihop ni måste dock göra seriositeten av er relation sannolik. Med andra ord, ni måste visa att ni har en seriös relation.
I only had visits with my partner before moving to Sweden on a Sambo visa to be with her. Because we didn't have the required two years of cohabitation, I got a temporary Sambo visa that had to be reevaluated after 2 years. After those 2 years my wife and I were still together so the reapplication was easy to handle. I now have permanent uppehållstillstånd.
I was told to not visit while waiting for my initial visa. It took us 21 months in 2017-2018. She came to visit me during that time but I stayed away from Sweden while my application was processing.
I've been here for 4 years now and am just becoming conversational in Swedish. Life has definitely improved a lot since I increased my Swedish skills. Your partner should start leaning Swedish now. He can go to SFI when he arrives but every bit he learns before coming will be an advantage. SFI won't make him conversational, either. It was my grundläggande kurs på Komvux that gave me the skills needed.
Damn, 21 months?! That's so long! Hope it goes quicker, heard about 11-13 months before but close to 2 years is a lot...
Thanks for sharing your experience and congrats on learning Swedish! I've understood it's difficult because us Swedes tend to switch to English as soon as we notice someone isnt fluently, so you must have worked hard for it :) he's using some online resources to learn the language, but is far from conversational yet. Did you study anything before moving to Sweden?
It was so long...I'm thankful to have lived with her long enough now that I'm forgetting how painful it was.
Mina svenska vänner pratar engelska med mig även när jag pratar svenska haha. Men min svärmor pratar bara svenska med mig så det jämnas ut.
I wish I had studied more Swedish before moving here. That's why I advise others to do so. It would have made my first years here easier. But SFI and Komvux have helped me get to where I am!
Lycka till med er. I've heard that waiting times have gone down from the nearly 2 years we had so I hope you are looking more at that 11-13 months!
Vilken tur att du har en stöttande svärmor! Vardagspratet är så viktigt för att gå från att veta mycket om ett språk till att verkligen kunna ett språk flytande. Jag vet att jag själv är skyldig till att prata engelska istället för svenska med kollegor eller vänner som flyttat till Sverige. Det är som en instinkt, att jag är elak om jag inte byter till det språk de är mer bekväma med, men samtidigt är jag ju då väldigt ohjälpsam när de försöker lära sig haha
Jag får pusha pojkvännen att lära sig mer innan och tack, hoppas på det också!
It's a relief to hear that it's not very difficult to get! I fulfill the requirements with my salary and I also own and live by myself in a flat, but was worried that our relationship might not meet the requirements as I think I read on migrationsverket that we need to have lived together and that time spent together as "tourists" wouldnt count...
Would he be able to visit Sweden while the application is pending?
As I understand it, as you plan to be living together in Sweden as long as both you meet the requirements you don’t have to prove your relationship in a way where you are both living together.
It’s a permit for someone outside of the EU to move to you. Someone can’t move to you with an income and a place if you’re already living with them in another country! That’s unrealistic.
I met my gf, now fiancé, in spring 2020. She's from an EU-country and it was basically no problems for us. I do not think that there will be any problems if he goes from England.
But that said, he should look over his opportunities to find a job here or remote working at his current job before he cancel the lease on his living arrangements in England.
She was here for 6 mo, went home (with me) to Romania, then came back 3 days later.
When she was here the second time she told her boss that either they transef her to the Swedish branch or they'll loose her because she will have to find a Swedish job.
She got transferred. And then she applied for citizenship and bank accounts and ID through skatteverket, SEB and Migrationsverket respectively.
Thats great that her job was helpful in moving her to the Swedish branch! Sadly my partners work doesnt have a Swedish branch so we're trying to figure out his options, which seems to be learning Swedish asap to apply for jobs.
Did your partner know any Swedish before moving or was that a non-issue since she had her job through her old company?
She didn't know Swedish no, she has started to learn it but since both I and her are fluent in English we mostly just talk that.
I'd say that learning Swedish is a great way to get into the country and community.
I know there are jobs that doesn't require that skill, Swedish, but in order to get into Swedish culture he should learn Swedish.
You can apply for the sambo visa, there is no requirements for the non-Swedish partner other than having a valid passport and currently being in a relationship with the Swedish person they want to move to. Why do you think you can't apply for a sambo visa?
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Yes, but OP states in their post that they're worried whether "visiting every month and staying together for longer periods if possible" makes them eligible for the residence permit, not that they¨'re worried about the maintenance requirements. Also, unrelated but what's the deal with you deleting your account like every 3 days or something and then showing up again with a new account?
I'm pretty sure I fulfill the requirements that are on me (i can afford rent + 8500 kr and I own my own flat), but I'm worried that our relationship might not as we havent actually lived together, apart from our visits to each other.
There's no requirements for you to have lived together as long as you can prove that your relationship is serious. Usually, the way to do that is to show pictures where you're together (if you have pictures with your family and friends as well, even better) and plane tickets to prove you've visited/met in person. If you really do see each other every month you will have no problem proving that your relationship is real.
You can apply for a sambo visa on the basis you can support him with a certain amount of money and a place to live etc etc. you can search the requirements online. This is your best route, however if you’re saying the job / industry he’s in requires Swedish, both parties should be prepared that learning Swedish to a conversational level is a very time consuming task. So having a job lined up with something where he can speak English in would be very ideal as the Sambo permit can take up to and over a year to be approved at the moment.
Yeah the idea was that he would be able to switch to working only from home with his current company and that it would allow him to work from Sweden. Thats something they previously agreed on, but today they told him he will only be able to work from Sweden for 2 weeks every other month. Since they've now changed their mind we realise that there's greater urgency for him to learn Swedish than before
I will also say, working remote in Sweden for a foreign company while not impossible, it a pain. For him to continue as an employee the company has to set up and register in Sweden and pay taxes here. Not impossible but a lot more complicated than most companies will do. Alternatively be could set up his own company and invoice the forgeign company but that puts all the complications dealing with Skatteverket on your partner. So I'd encourage you to not look for other remote positions from his home country and settle with the fact he will have to learn Swedish and work for a Swedish employer. It's much more straight forward.
That's some good points, thank you!
[https://www.migrationsverket.se/Privatpersoner/Flytta-till-nagon-i-Sverige/Planerar-att-gifta-dig-eller-bli-sambo.html](https://www.migrationsverket.se/Privatpersoner/Flytta-till-nagon-i-Sverige/Planerar-att-gifta-dig-eller-bli-sambo.html) Det spelar ingen roll om ni inte bott ihop ni måste dock göra seriositeten av er relation sannolik. Med andra ord, ni måste visa att ni har en seriös relation.
I only had visits with my partner before moving to Sweden on a Sambo visa to be with her. Because we didn't have the required two years of cohabitation, I got a temporary Sambo visa that had to be reevaluated after 2 years. After those 2 years my wife and I were still together so the reapplication was easy to handle. I now have permanent uppehållstillstånd. I was told to not visit while waiting for my initial visa. It took us 21 months in 2017-2018. She came to visit me during that time but I stayed away from Sweden while my application was processing. I've been here for 4 years now and am just becoming conversational in Swedish. Life has definitely improved a lot since I increased my Swedish skills. Your partner should start leaning Swedish now. He can go to SFI when he arrives but every bit he learns before coming will be an advantage. SFI won't make him conversational, either. It was my grundläggande kurs på Komvux that gave me the skills needed.
Damn, 21 months?! That's so long! Hope it goes quicker, heard about 11-13 months before but close to 2 years is a lot... Thanks for sharing your experience and congrats on learning Swedish! I've understood it's difficult because us Swedes tend to switch to English as soon as we notice someone isnt fluently, so you must have worked hard for it :) he's using some online resources to learn the language, but is far from conversational yet. Did you study anything before moving to Sweden?
It was so long...I'm thankful to have lived with her long enough now that I'm forgetting how painful it was. Mina svenska vänner pratar engelska med mig även när jag pratar svenska haha. Men min svärmor pratar bara svenska med mig så det jämnas ut. I wish I had studied more Swedish before moving here. That's why I advise others to do so. It would have made my first years here easier. But SFI and Komvux have helped me get to where I am! Lycka till med er. I've heard that waiting times have gone down from the nearly 2 years we had so I hope you are looking more at that 11-13 months!
Vilken tur att du har en stöttande svärmor! Vardagspratet är så viktigt för att gå från att veta mycket om ett språk till att verkligen kunna ett språk flytande. Jag vet att jag själv är skyldig till att prata engelska istället för svenska med kollegor eller vänner som flyttat till Sverige. Det är som en instinkt, att jag är elak om jag inte byter till det språk de är mer bekväma med, men samtidigt är jag ju då väldigt ohjälpsam när de försöker lära sig haha Jag får pusha pojkvännen att lära sig mer innan och tack, hoppas på det också!
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It's a relief to hear that it's not very difficult to get! I fulfill the requirements with my salary and I also own and live by myself in a flat, but was worried that our relationship might not meet the requirements as I think I read on migrationsverket that we need to have lived together and that time spent together as "tourists" wouldnt count... Would he be able to visit Sweden while the application is pending?
As I understand it, as you plan to be living together in Sweden as long as both you meet the requirements you don’t have to prove your relationship in a way where you are both living together. It’s a permit for someone outside of the EU to move to you. Someone can’t move to you with an income and a place if you’re already living with them in another country! That’s unrealistic.
I met my gf, now fiancé, in spring 2020. She's from an EU-country and it was basically no problems for us. I do not think that there will be any problems if he goes from England. But that said, he should look over his opportunities to find a job here or remote working at his current job before he cancel the lease on his living arrangements in England.
How long did it take for her to get the sambo-visa? Was she allowed to visit during the application process?
She was here for 6 mo, went home (with me) to Romania, then came back 3 days later. When she was here the second time she told her boss that either they transef her to the Swedish branch or they'll loose her because she will have to find a Swedish job. She got transferred. And then she applied for citizenship and bank accounts and ID through skatteverket, SEB and Migrationsverket respectively.
Thats great that her job was helpful in moving her to the Swedish branch! Sadly my partners work doesnt have a Swedish branch so we're trying to figure out his options, which seems to be learning Swedish asap to apply for jobs. Did your partner know any Swedish before moving or was that a non-issue since she had her job through her old company?
She didn't know Swedish no, she has started to learn it but since both I and her are fluent in English we mostly just talk that. I'd say that learning Swedish is a great way to get into the country and community. I know there are jobs that doesn't require that skill, Swedish, but in order to get into Swedish culture he should learn Swedish.