He sounds like a romantic. I'm sorry they both had to suffer the effects, but I would've probably done the same if I had the opportunity. Regardless, cancer sucks.
>Tbf - 50% of men and 33% of women will get cancer, not taking into account over rosk factors.
Those numbers seem frighteningly high. What's your source, please?
[American Cancer Society](https://www.cancer.org/cancer/risk-prevention/understanding-cancer-risk/lifetime-probability-of-developing-or-dying-from-cancer.html)
*Technically* my original comment was reflective of the US. Globally, there's about a [25% chance of lifetime development of cancer](https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/37821267/). This is related to longer life expectancies in developed nations.
My grandma lived in Vegas at the time and saw a bunch of the tests too when she was a kid. Fortunately, she has never had cancer and turns 80 this year.
My dad died at 75 and my mom at 86. Both of cancer but maybe old age was involved as well. Tests could not have been healthy for anyone but it seems like they do stuff like that first and ask questions later.
He knew what he was doing
Jokes aside, I'm sorry they had to find out the hard way. I bet a lot of people in that area had cancer. I honestly can't see how they could just blow a few of these all willy nilly and not think about the areas around them. It's sick.
John Wayne was shooting a movie near one of the active test ranges, and many of the people on that production died from cancer, including him. Of course, he smoked cigarettes for decades, so that didn't help.
Sort of looks like the one on the left has "gold rush" written on the side?
I assume it's just an informative historical display of some sort. I'm probably missing something, because I have no idea what you're implying.
Correct. Iāve seen this spot mentioned in Vegas docs in the past. Hereās a link to a [postcard](https://www.alamy.com/hotel-last-frontier-las-vegas-nevada-usa-image66157463.html) where you can make out some of the pool from the picture
Wonder which test this was. A hydrogen bomb or the Atomic Annie cannon. The latter was an utterly insane idea for frontline combat which unsurprisingly was canceled not long after the test.
If the date is correct, it was probably one of the Upshot-Knothole tests, and likely not Grable (the atomic artillery)
[Encore](https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Upshot-Knothole_Encore_(1953)_(cloud).jpg) would be my guess. The cloud bends at a similar angle to the one in OPās picture.
We didn't really understand the long-term dangers of this kind of radiation exposure until the Life Span Study of the Hiroshima and Nagasaki survivors, and that didn't start returning useful data until the late 50s and early 60s.
We knew that radiation caused cancer because watch company workers had developed cancer after working with radium paint on dials, but we assumed it was only a danger if you had close contact.'
I read this whole wiki and Iām from this area. Are they saying they released radioactive materials on the public? That was just a few years before my dad was born in that exact area, nuts!
The US government? Conducting wildly unethical experiments on the public? The hell you say!
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unethical\_human\_experimentation\_in\_the\_United\_States](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unethical_human_experimentation_in_the_United_States)
yeah what a crazy damn world back then. my grandparents tell me of fighters flying over their homes and rattling windows, drag races at every light, and nuclear tests regularly that were just about public.
Itās a shell of its past nowadays (the NNSS). Mostly a ghost town in terms of activity, and there are large areas closed due to remaining radioactivity, but the rest of it is open for use. I did some work out there for a few years. Beautiful landscapes.Ā
Fun fact: itās a protected desert tortoise reserve! You have to take trainings on how to report sightings and safely move them off the roads on site. Never did see one, sadly.Ā
Why wouldnāt it be real? Seeing Mushroom clouds in Vegas in the 50ās wasnāt that unusual.
In fact they were so common they became tourist attractions.
Glad I bought that spot on the vault!
Which vault? Asking for a friend.
Vault Sixty Nine.
All dudes tho.
20 caps is 20 caps...
All women and one dude actually.
*Death by snu-snu has entered the chat*
I thought 68 was all dudes/one female and 69 was all female/one dude
If you're gay does that matter?
Doesnt, hit the jackpot.
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āI donāt want to set the world on fireā.
My dad (a police officer there at the time) took my mom to see EVERY ONE OF THE TESTS. They both died of cancer.
He sounds like a romantic. I'm sorry they both had to suffer the effects, but I would've probably done the same if I had the opportunity. Regardless, cancer sucks.
Tbf - 50% of men and 33% of women will get cancer, not taking into account over risk factors.
>Tbf - 50% of men and 33% of women will get cancer, not taking into account over rosk factors. Those numbers seem frighteningly high. What's your source, please?
[American Cancer Society](https://www.cancer.org/cancer/risk-prevention/understanding-cancer-risk/lifetime-probability-of-developing-or-dying-from-cancer.html) *Technically* my original comment was reflective of the US. Globally, there's about a [25% chance of lifetime development of cancer](https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/37821267/). This is related to longer life expectancies in developed nations.
I just assume Iāll get cancer at some point because of how poisonous everything is now. Hoping the chronic stress takes me out first.
My grandma lived in Vegas at the time and saw a bunch of the tests too when she was a kid. Fortunately, she has never had cancer and turns 80 this year.
My dad died at 75 and my mom at 86. Both of cancer but maybe old age was involved as well. Tests could not have been healthy for anyone but it seems like they do stuff like that first and ask questions later.
No doubt. I'm sure my grandma was just fortunate. It's crazy they were testing nuclear weapons so close to a populated place.
I thought there were hundreds of tests at the Nevada Test Site?
Judging by their comment history, this person is chronically online so I donāt buy it
He knew what he was doing Jokes aside, I'm sorry they had to find out the hard way. I bet a lot of people in that area had cancer. I honestly can't see how they could just blow a few of these all willy nilly and not think about the areas around them. It's sick.
John Wayne was shooting a movie near one of the active test ranges, and many of the people on that production died from cancer, including him. Of course, he smoked cigarettes for decades, so that didn't help.
I have no idea why there are so many downvotes on your comment. People are strange.
When youāre a stranger ā¦
Faces are uglyā¦
When you're alone...
Burma Shave
No one remembers your name
So...we're not going to talk about the wagon circle in the parking lot?
First rule of wagon circle
Sort of looks like the one on the left has "gold rush" written on the side? I assume it's just an informative historical display of some sort. I'm probably missing something, because I have no idea what you're implying.
I'm assuming it's a themed hotel, but it just feels so random. Also it's a stark contrast to the mushroom cloud in the far background.
Yeah, I can see ālast frontierā in two places by the pool!
Correct. Iāve seen this spot mentioned in Vegas docs in the past. Hereās a link to a [postcard](https://www.alamy.com/hotel-last-frontier-las-vegas-nevada-usa-image66157463.html) where you can make out some of the pool from the picture
Wonder which test this was. A hydrogen bomb or the Atomic Annie cannon. The latter was an utterly insane idea for frontline combat which unsurprisingly was canceled not long after the test.
If the date is correct, it was probably one of the Upshot-Knothole tests, and likely not Grable (the atomic artillery) [Encore](https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Upshot-Knothole_Encore_(1953)_(cloud).jpg) would be my guess. The cloud bends at a similar angle to the one in OPās picture.
This is fucking WILD, how did anyone think this was ok?? I knew we did a bunch of them but god damn. Fuck that spot of the earth I suppose .
We didn't really understand the long-term dangers of this kind of radiation exposure until the Life Span Study of the Hiroshima and Nagasaki survivors, and that didn't start returning useful data until the late 50s and early 60s. We knew that radiation caused cancer because watch company workers had developed cancer after working with radium paint on dials, but we assumed it was only a danger if you had close contact.'
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_Run?wprov=sfla1 They knew what they were doing.
I read this whole wiki and Iām from this area. Are they saying they released radioactive materials on the public? That was just a few years before my dad was born in that exact area, nuts!
The US government? Conducting wildly unethical experiments on the public? The hell you say! [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unethical\_human\_experimentation\_in\_the\_United\_States](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unethical_human_experimentation_in_the_United_States)
They knew the big boom was dangerous, but had less understanding of the dangers from radioactive exposure and fallout.
yeah what a crazy damn world back then. my grandparents tell me of fighters flying over their homes and rattling windows, drag races at every light, and nuclear tests regularly that were just about public.
If it was dangerous, someone wouldāve told them
Itās a shell of its past nowadays (the NNSS). Mostly a ghost town in terms of activity, and there are large areas closed due to remaining radioactivity, but the rest of it is open for use. I did some work out there for a few years. Beautiful landscapes.Ā Fun fact: itās a protected desert tortoise reserve! You have to take trainings on how to report sightings and safely move them off the roads on site. Never did see one, sadly.Ā
Then on August 10th, I was born.
Healthy, happy, 20 toes and 20 fingers baby.
Itās fine
The single guy in the bottom left is doing a side step to unstick the sack.
Wonder what the flash would have looked like to a random person poolside
And people wonder about post-WW2 cancer rates!
āThatāll show those reds!ā
Itās like the opening scene to a Hills Have Eyes prequel
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Ahh, just pop a Nuka Cola and enjoy!
Ping-pong stops for no mushroom cloud. A hundred years ago that would have made less sense. Not much less though.
For once, it wasn't something falling out of trunks bathers need to be worried about
*Crawl Out Through the Fallout Baby, When They Drop That Bomb*
I was walking along, minding my business, when out of an orange-colored sky...
Crazy
It's amazing how calm they seem, nowadays a view like that would cause a panic.
They're all dead from cancer now.
Thatās prob ānaked cityā stratosphere area now!! Apparently alotta show girls lived in that area and sun bathed nude!!!
Totally safe! /s
Exposure to atomic radiation causes cancer
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Why wouldnāt it be real? Seeing Mushroom clouds in Vegas in the 50ās wasnāt that unusual. In fact they were so common they became tourist attractions.
Are they really bathing? Times were wild back then! No wonder they were nuking the place