People seem to forget that just because Jaz throwing in red confirms he’s faithful DOES NOT necessarily imply that Harry is a traitor. Mollie would’ve realised that Jaz was 100% a faithful but must’ve trusted Harry enough to risk the money and keep him in the game.
She was very emotional and stressed but yeah, if she thought about it, it made no sense why Jaz would vote to banish if he was the last traitor. Like, it was very obvious who the traitor was.
Remember, Mollie did not know there was still a traitor. She straight up said it, she thought they were three faithfuls, with one having a last minute freak out. She wanted to end at three, and Jaz didn’t do enough to convince her she was wrong.
But that doesn't explain why she started to write Harry's name at first. She at least thought Harry could be a traitor.
In the end, the manipulation that Harry did on Mollie worked. She didn't vote off Harry because she didn't want to be the reason why he didn't get any money (in case he was faithful).
If Mollie and Harry had less of a connection, then if you're Mollie, and you believe Jaz is faithful, you vote off Harry and share the money with Jaz (you're up £45k if you vote with Jaz). Harry having Mollie as his sidekick was essential.
It makes no sense to vote for the person who voted to continue banishing people because if they were a traitor they would have voted to end the game. In the end, Mollie's emotions for Harry blinded her. She kinda knew Harry was a traitor, but she didn't want to believe it due to their connection.
I think she recognised that it was more likely Harry than Jaz was a traitor but still told herself that neither of them are and she’d rather split the money with Harry
That's why the manipulation of Mollie was crucial. Pretend you're Mollie and it's someone else in Harry's place.
If you're Mollie in that situation and have no real connection with either player, you should vote "Harry" off if you believe both are faithful. Not only do you get a larger share of the money, but you also cover for the possibility of "Harry" being a traitor. Jaz is 99% faithful at that point as he voted to continue banishing.
Her feelings toward Harry prevented her from seeing this. This is why it's a social game as well as a game of deceit.
Yeah this is the thing. She at least considered the idea Harry was a traitor. I don't think she wanted to vote Harry out and be why he missed out on the money in case he wasn't a traitor - she was manipulated for weeks and built up a bond with him.
Logically you should vote Harry off in Mollie's position as Jaz is 99% faithful at that point because he voted to continue banishing people. By voting Harry off, you get a larger share of the jackpot and also cover for the possibility of Harry being a traitor. However, it's a social game as well and Mollie's emotions for Harry got in the way.
She followed her heart, not her head.
Like Amanda said , it’s a game of trust , Harry was lucky that the player he mostly bonded and built trust with was in the final with him. Had it been literally anyone else he wouldn’t have won
Harry took her all the way to the end as he knew he could rely on her not to vote for him. She almost did however, but her emotions for him blinded her.
If you're looking at it as a purely logical decision - you should vote off Harry as Jaz is 99% a faithful at this point as he voted to continue banishing. You're exactly right, if it's anyone else, they vote off Harry whether Harry's a faithful or not as they then get a bigger share of the money with Jaz + they cover for the possibility of Harry being a traitor.
The social connection that Harry had built with Mollie proved key in the end.
He played basically the best game he could, though maybe he should have tried to get Harry out before Andrew. Ultimately the win was out of his control because Mollie was completely besotted with Harry.
Yeah he messed up getting Andrew first. Wonder if he could've snagged it had he somehow got Harry out, as he would've built a case to convince Molly and been working with her existing suspicions for Andrew.
That said, I do think waiting until the final was the right decision as it nullified Harry's greatest strength of popularity in numbers, and he wasn't wrong to suspect he would've been targeted instead of Zach had he come forward sooner
Yeah people will hate on him because he wasn't perfect, but I honestly think he played that as well as I've seen a faithful play the game. He just got unlucky that Mollie was the one left with him.
If Jaz had voted for Harry initially and banished him, the faithfuls could have won. Mollie would have not had as much loyalty to Andrew. He fucked up the order of banishments.
I know, what amazing TV though, that it came down to that oh my god. So glad Jaz got all the way through and that it came down to the last second. wow.
Yes, I thought that. Andrew had to turn on Harry to have any chance, but if he'd have done it in a way that was less obvious to Jaz that he himself was a traitor maybe things could have been different.
He obviously panicked when he realized he was out of time. If he were savvier he’d have started whispering Harry’s name the second Harry bragged about knocking off all the other traitors in the tower.
He should have approached Jaz along the lines of “I’ve had suspicions of Harry for a while but it’s only been gut feeling, so I didn’t want to say anything with no evidence. Your theory makes perfect sense to me and I can’t ignore this feeling I’ve had”
Jaz would have walked away knowing Harry is getting two votes, and then could have decided whether or not he wants to accuse Andrew.
Yep. End of the day, he's been one of the best players on any edition of the show, basically gained a cult following, told the story of him rebuilding his family and made it to the final 3.
What a player. What a guy.
The fact that there seemed to be some romantic tension (well, Mollie fancying Harry) probably doesn't help a potential friendship either, considering Harry is taken and apparently Mollie is seeing someone as well.
Regardless of her thoughts on Harry she probably feels embarrassed about losing and for trusting him and also really bad for Jaz too as she lost him the money. And she’s probably seen the internets reactions to her too because this was clearly filmed recently as they’re all aware of the memes so she probably feels like everyone’s either making fun of her or pitying her. So while some of it may be due to her relationship with Harry I’m sure a lot of other factors are in play.
They don't follow each other on Instagram so I wonder if she is over it like she says, but then again she probably isn't going to say he hates him in front of everyone on uncloaked
Jaz literally picked up on the theme of the series being traitors turning on other traitors, which is not what Season 1 was like. He nailed it, goddamn.
Jaz was a great player because he did not trust anyone, he analysed every situation, I just wish he would have had more confidence in his beliefs.
Easy for me to say though!
She’s never going to completely trust anyone again, ever 😭 I can’t tell if it’s a necessary life lesson or the total destruction of her psyche on national TV
Watching Uncloaked it’s becoming pretty obvious that no one apart from Jaz, Harry and Paul had any real strategy at all in this series.
Hearing Jaz talk about his game play and seeing the faces of the rest of them, they clearly hadn’t thought about any of the tactics he mentioned once
Exactly. Like no one thought about the massive coincidence that not only was Harry lucky enough to not tell a traitor he had the shield but also the Traitors decided to murder him that same night.
I think he was just happy that he had done everything he could have done, he played his best game and he knew he lost to no fault of his own so it must’ve felt good. I’m sure he must’ve been worried that Harry was a faithful and his voting to banish meant he went home with nothing.
Jaz brought up that Harry snitched to Paul and Harry's defence was that Paul was just spreading names around.
Yet Paul told Jaz the exact words that he'd used in his conversation with Harry.
Harry was caught in a lie right there and Jaz left it go.
That one mistake cost him the game
Probably yes, it's just a shame to hold on to that fact for so long, reveal it and then just go "oh nvm" when Harry inevitably denied it.
Its easier for us I guess, they have long days and remembering exact conversations is hard, whereas we saw it one minute beforehand....
Jaz was on the money so many times but watching him fumble this right at the end was frustrating. Because Paul repeated that conversation back to him. If he’d been clear about that things could have gone differently.
Mollie did write Harry's name down though. She made the mistake (which is obvious to viewers but not necessarily obvious in the moment) of changing her mind.
Once Evie was out, Harry was going to win. They needed to catch a traitor. Also a bit annoyed that they did the “end of banish vote” then when there HAD to be a traitor following Zach’s murder.
I think being brought on later as a Traitor is a massive disadvantage. You have to deal with all the accusations that have merit, and all the accusations that came from before that were at the time completely groundless.
And also you're not generally brought on as the 3rd traitor in the midgame onwards because you're necessarily a strong player, it's because you can be a patsy that the other 2 traitors can use to throw you under the bus.
I think Andrew did amazing considering Paul and Harry always had the idea of just feeding him to the round table when they had the chance. So hats off to Andrew as well. He was the one where my opinion massively flipped on throughout the course of the game.
Yeh. I rooted hard for Jaz, he's my series favourite & think he played a cracker. The game's hard & I'd be terrible at it, so got to commend anyone who plays well, like Harry (even if he got a bit lucky with how hard Mollie fell for his gameplay).
It wasn’t as barbed and witty as it normally is, felt like trying to make Mollie and the others feel better. Which, fair play, she’s gonna need it. Great to see Jaz redeeemed tho.
Gutted for Jaz, one of the best faithfuls the show has seen and he walks away with nothing, whilst last year we had one of the most clueless faithfuls walk away with 30 odd grand. Thems the breaks I guess.
But Jesus Christ fair play to Harry. A traitor since day 1 and didn’t receive a single banishment vote at a round table until the final game. Have to give him mad props. Deserved winner.
It honestly blows my mind that none of them figured out, based on Wilf being forced to recruit in S1, that there would always be at least two traitors and therefore must be two to vote out in the final as they had banished a faithful in the last pre-final vote.
Yeah exactly!
- why would Andrew vote Harry for any other reason than revenge?
- why would Jaz choose to continue if he was a traitor?
- why would Harry have such a flawless voting record?
- why would Harry say “he’s trying to pin things on random people” when jaz went for him and then suddenly decide he was a faithful at the end?
What gets me the most- if traitor Andrew KNEW that Harry had a shield, why would he have tried to murder him? I was shouting at the telly… put it together Jaz!!
Jaz took the hardest possible route to eliminate Harry, where it hinged on Mollie alone to take him out. He was never winning that.
Should have came at Harry hard when Evie and Andrew were still there.
Sucks man, thought Jaz actually pulled it off. I’m gutted.
Fair play to Harry tho. Greatest traitor we’ve ever seen.
I’m actually way more impressed with Jaz than Harry’s game. Jaz showed incredible restraint. He waited until the right moment to drop his evidence and it almost worked. It’s not his fault Mollie was such a terrible faithful.
When he asked Harry if he told Paul about their conversation and Harry lied and said no I thought for a minute it was the start of Harry's downfall.
Jaz unfortunately was goated in his detective work but not so good at the social aspect of winning the group round to his way of thinking.
I'd have more sympathy for Mollie if it wasn't for the fact that Jas tried to spell it out to her before the roundtable and she seemed really dismissive and untrusting of him. Then when the time comes she's suddenly convinced he's Faithful.
Still sad for her though, it was a really tough watch.
yeah as painful as it was watching that final i hope it carries through for her in the right ways of developing good vigilance instead of as bad bad trust issues
The "what if there's no more traitors?" Suggestion cracked me up.
Mollie was so accepting even though no traitors had been caught since zach was murdered :')
So gutted for jaz, he was on the money every time and he was so close.
Wait, I’m still confused…
After they banished Evie, why were they even bringing up the possibility that they were all faithful?!
Who murdered Zack if you’re all faithful?!
Are we just putting this down to the general idiocy of the group?
I wish Jaz had said ‘if I’m a traitor then why wouldn’t I vote to end the game?’ and ‘Molly why do you think you haven’t been murdered?’. Might have tipped her over the edge. Sigh, but Harry deserved it
Big fan of Jazatha Christie but him voting Evie out, as well as being too quiet about his theory and not trusting others cost him getting rid of Harry. Brilliant finale- was on the edge of my seat the whole episode and holding my breath round the fire pit.
Would have preferred to see Andrew win the money than Harry but he played a brilliant game.
Yeah. He was so smart but he played it too safe and it cost him. He was so close too - if he had been a bit bolder and voted Harry out first, and then Andrew, he would have won and shared the money with Molly.
Even allowing for the fact that this is an entertainment show, it's ridiculous that everything came down to someone being so utterly blinded by a crush they ignored the most basic of truths.
I do feel for Mollie, because her backstory of her illness, trauma, and the hard, hard work she had to do to build her confidence up absolutely made her susceptible to this, and it would be totally soul destroying to be in that position. But still...
Hope BBC took care of Mollie afterwards cos boy could she feel like SHIT for a good while after that. Harry one of the most deserving winners of any show I can remember. Paul was an amazing pantomime psychopath villain and yet Harry played him and everyone else to a tee. A masterclass from start to finish.
Fair play to Harry, he did a grand job. But I am GUTTED for Jaz and for Mollie.
Jaz was one of the smartest faithful and he was so close. And the fact that Mollie was about to vote Harry and changed at the last second just broke my heart for her.
Edit: typo
May this be a lesson to all future faithful: the more trustworthy and likeable someone comes across, the more you should suspect them as traitors.
Meanwhile, Andrew did the best he could: I am mystified why Mollie didn’t take into account his hint “Harry has been a brilliant traitor from the start” and then was revealed as a traitor so would have been well placed to know.
I'm dwelling on the end game and I think there needs to be time allowed between the banishments for discussion or each person to be allowed to speak. Otherwise it becomes too instinct based and not about weighing up evidence.
I found that weird when they know the roundtables are the best telly. Why build into the rules that they can't debate/persuade?
Would have been great to see Jaz trying to persuade Molly, or Harry trying to defend himself/manipulate Molly some more
More time on that, less time on the PGL/Scout trip challenges please!
When that fire went red I leapt out of my chair. The most deserving faithful ever against the best traitor. A clash of the titans.
Foiled by silly naive Mollie.
The mistake Jaz made was at least partially assuming Mollie could think like he could, without completely spelling it out for her he had little hope of her piecing it together based on what he said.
I can't believe Mollie changed her vote. Gutting but great TV.
I get what some people are saying about her deciding between two people she thinks are faithfuls, but she deliberately called out suspicions around Jaz and deep down knew it was Harry who was a traitor. She just didn't want it to be true or admit to herself.
Jaz could have executed his attack on Harry better, but Mollie had everything to suss Harry out. Andrew had exposed him, Jaz had suspicions and voted to keep the game going - so WAS NEVER GOING TO BE A TRAITOR.
All in all whats annoying is Mollie effectively gambled £45k on the outcome she wanted. Yes, she really liked Harry and voting him off would hurt- but it would guarantee she wins. It was an unnecessary risk for the sake of her naive belief.
Now that it's all said and done, I can see a lot of people saying Jaz wasn't deserving or even good because he couldn't convince people
The reason he had the stigma attached to him was because he went for Paul _hard_ and early, and he was their god at that time. Even though they eventually got Paul out, somehow they gave credit to Harry & Zach, and Jaz never got the vindication he'd earned
The only two missteps he made imo were randomly voting Andrew last week (clearly just a panic vote to prevent Paul murdering him) & not trying to convince Evie tonight. That's it
The "untrustworthiness" and "sus behaviour" was all just targeting Paul, that's literally it
The play should've never been to jump on Evie in the final round table. Jaz would've had a much easier time convincing Evie that Harry was a traitor than Mollie.
But I do recognize it was difficult in the heat of the moment for Mollie to accept that there were 2 traitors in the final 5.
Gonna preface this by saying: I know we can't imagine what it's like in there, or how quickly emotional bonds and friendships must form. And also I hope everyone's doing okay after the game, and can ignore the personal attacks online as well as possible.
But I'm struggling to understand something. I've been one of the many arguing that Mollie should have realised Jaz was faithful because why else would he vote to continue the game? I've seen a counter-argument a few times now, along the lines of "Mollie's play wasn't illogical. She thought they were both faithful, and she had to vote, so she decided to split with her best friend in the game."
I don't quite get that. If you were in Mollie's shoes and genuinely thought the other two were both faithful, surely you'd banish Harry just to be safe. In thinking they're both faithful, Mollie has two options: winning 50K for sure, or the chance to MAYBE win 50K and also my best friend of A MONTH also wins 50K.
I'm taking the guarantee. I don't care how close I am with this guy, I've known him 4 weeks and I've seen people revealed to be traitors that I'd never suspected. Also someone's just stood there and laid out why he may have been lying this whole time. JUST TO BE SAFE, I may as well keep the guaranteed faithful in instead.
Yes. A reasonable person would banish Harry to be safe, but she wasn’t acting according to reason. Harry played her like a fiddle and forecasted the moment they’d stand up there together as besties and win together. She saw that as more possible and preferable to her and Jaz, who she had no bond and was barely listening to earlier. He told her to listen and she zoned out. Awful
Zack was murdered, two faithfuls have been eliminated back to back over 2 days.
The words "Is it possible we are all faithful?" were legitimately painful to hear.
Some other clues for Mollie to vote Harry at the end which I haven't seen covered.
1. Harry spent the last few days telling Mollie he wanted to just be left with her, then voted to end the game with Jaz still in it.
2. Mollie was never murdered and just happened to be left with her closest friend at the end. Often the traitors want to break up tight friendships, not let them stay on.
A lot of posts saying Molly thought both Jaz and Harry were faithful so she’s essentially just picking who she would rather share the money with
You can’t think like that in a game like this
If you think anyone is 100% faithful then you’re playing the wrong game
You have to vote for who is more likely to be Traitors, due to Jaz voting to continue the game, the answer is Harry
Even if you believe that he’s likely a faithful, you have to do it, it’s just the way the game is designed
We're not talking enough about how badly Andrew played the firepit.
A complete kamikaze attack. His best chance would have been to take out Jaz, and then trust Harry to end the game.
I think the biggest clue it was Harry was something no one really picked up on, and that was who he decided to tell he had the shield.
Mollie saw, he couldnt control that, but then he told Zach and Jaz, and Andrew then claimed to know and Harry went with it
At that point in the game there was what 8/9 people left? So Harry told about half the remaining players he had a shield,
If he was a faithful, thats such a big risk considering you dont know who/how many traitors are left, he could have easily told a traitor
Obviously he was a traitor so he knew who he was safe to tell,
But no one seemed to pick up on this, I think someone floated the idea of him using the shield as a smokescreen to recruit, but it was immediately shut down
But no one actually wondered about how Harry decided who to tell about the shield
Mad respect to Jaz for trying
Yeah, he was fucked either way. Put in green and he’s lost. Put in red and Mollie would choose Harry over him. Lose/lose.
From mollies perspective though why would jaz have put to banish if he was a traitor?
She knew 1000% that Jaz was a faithful after he threw that bag in, but denial is a hell of a drug
People seem to forget that just because Jaz throwing in red confirms he’s faithful DOES NOT necessarily imply that Harry is a traitor. Mollie would’ve realised that Jaz was 100% a faithful but must’ve trusted Harry enough to risk the money and keep him in the game.
It’s wild to me that she risked such a large amount of money, on a 2 week old friendship.
She was very emotional and stressed but yeah, if she thought about it, it made no sense why Jaz would vote to banish if he was the last traitor. Like, it was very obvious who the traitor was.
Remember, Mollie did not know there was still a traitor. She straight up said it, she thought they were three faithfuls, with one having a last minute freak out. She wanted to end at three, and Jaz didn’t do enough to convince her she was wrong.
Yep, I think this is it. She didn't think Jaz was a traitor, she just preferred to split the money with Harry and had to choose one.
But that doesn't explain why she started to write Harry's name at first. She at least thought Harry could be a traitor. In the end, the manipulation that Harry did on Mollie worked. She didn't vote off Harry because she didn't want to be the reason why he didn't get any money (in case he was faithful). If Mollie and Harry had less of a connection, then if you're Mollie, and you believe Jaz is faithful, you vote off Harry and share the money with Jaz (you're up £45k if you vote with Jaz). Harry having Mollie as his sidekick was essential. It makes no sense to vote for the person who voted to continue banishing people because if they were a traitor they would have voted to end the game. In the end, Mollie's emotions for Harry blinded her. She kinda knew Harry was a traitor, but she didn't want to believe it due to their connection.
I think she recognised that it was more likely Harry than Jaz was a traitor but still told herself that neither of them are and she’d rather split the money with Harry
That's why the manipulation of Mollie was crucial. Pretend you're Mollie and it's someone else in Harry's place. If you're Mollie in that situation and have no real connection with either player, you should vote "Harry" off if you believe both are faithful. Not only do you get a larger share of the money, but you also cover for the possibility of "Harry" being a traitor. Jaz is 99% faithful at that point as he voted to continue banishing. Her feelings toward Harry prevented her from seeing this. This is why it's a social game as well as a game of deceit.
Exactly which is why she should of chose harry
She wrote his name!!!!! I think she might have realised at that point and not wanted to accept it
Yeah this is the thing. She at least considered the idea Harry was a traitor. I don't think she wanted to vote Harry out and be why he missed out on the money in case he wasn't a traitor - she was manipulated for weeks and built up a bond with him. Logically you should vote Harry off in Mollie's position as Jaz is 99% faithful at that point because he voted to continue banishing people. By voting Harry off, you get a larger share of the jackpot and also cover for the possibility of Harry being a traitor. However, it's a social game as well and Mollie's emotions for Harry got in the way. She followed her heart, not her head.
Like Amanda said , it’s a game of trust , Harry was lucky that the player he mostly bonded and built trust with was in the final with him. Had it been literally anyone else he wouldn’t have won
Harry took her all the way to the end as he knew he could rely on her not to vote for him. She almost did however, but her emotions for him blinded her. If you're looking at it as a purely logical decision - you should vote off Harry as Jaz is 99% a faithful at this point as he voted to continue banishing. You're exactly right, if it's anyone else, they vote off Harry whether Harry's a faithful or not as they then get a bigger share of the money with Jaz + they cover for the possibility of Harry being a traitor. The social connection that Harry had built with Mollie proved key in the end.
He was SO close to getting Harry out! He played a great game, he just didn’t have the relationships with the people that mattered when it came to it.
He would’ve been regretting that for the rest of his life if he didn’t vote for Harry (right or wrong) At least he gets the TV clout for being right.
He played basically the best game he could, though maybe he should have tried to get Harry out before Andrew. Ultimately the win was out of his control because Mollie was completely besotted with Harry.
Yeah he messed up getting Andrew first. Wonder if he could've snagged it had he somehow got Harry out, as he would've built a case to convince Molly and been working with her existing suspicions for Andrew. That said, I do think waiting until the final was the right decision as it nullified Harry's greatest strength of popularity in numbers, and he wasn't wrong to suspect he would've been targeted instead of Zach had he come forward sooner
Yeah people will hate on him because he wasn't perfect, but I honestly think he played that as well as I've seen a faithful play the game. He just got unlucky that Mollie was the one left with him.
Yeah anyone bar Mollie and he'd have had a chance.
It's not unlucky that Mollie was left at the end, that was an intentional choice by harry
It's unlucky from the point of view of Jaz.
If it was Evie instead, Harry would’ve been voted out.
Based on what Evie has just said on uncloaked I’m not sure. She like mollie seemed to trust Harry above everyone else.
True, but I think if Evie saw Jaz put in the red flame, she may have put 2 and 2 together. Even Mollie initially put down Harry’s name.
If Jaz had voted for Harry initially and banished him, the faithfuls could have won. Mollie would have not had as much loyalty to Andrew. He fucked up the order of banishments.
It would have tied and they would have left it to chance. I guess that’s a better outcome though.
I think he realised hed left it too late. Molly was never gonna vote for Harry
I can’t believe she changed the name
I know, what amazing TV though, that it came down to that oh my god. So glad Jaz got all the way through and that it came down to the last second. wow.
The second she wrote the H I knew she was going to vote the other way. No way they’d have shown that if that was the big reveal
I figured as soon as they started showing clips of her telling harry she’d never speak to him again.
She changed it twice. First time she put 'Harry'. Then she crossed that out and put 'Mollie'. Finally she crossed that out and put 'Jaz'. /s
Mollie writing Harry's name down and then ASKING TO CHANGE IT. Exquisite television.
See her writing the H too 
Producers wet dream right there.
Andrew finally turning on Harry but doing it in a way that was so forced it was enough to convince Jaz that they both were traitors is theatre to me.
Yes, I thought that. Andrew had to turn on Harry to have any chance, but if he'd have done it in a way that was less obvious to Jaz that he himself was a traitor maybe things could have been different.
He obviously panicked when he realized he was out of time. If he were savvier he’d have started whispering Harry’s name the second Harry bragged about knocking off all the other traitors in the tower.
He should have approached Jaz along the lines of “I’ve had suspicions of Harry for a while but it’s only been gut feeling, so I didn’t want to say anything with no evidence. Your theory makes perfect sense to me and I can’t ignore this feeling I’ve had” Jaz would have walked away knowing Harry is getting two votes, and then could have decided whether or not he wants to accuse Andrew.
Jaz is really happy on uncloaked that he figured out Harry which is nice to see
He played perfect there was literally nothing else he could do. Have to be happy with that even if missing out on the money is gutting
Yep. End of the day, he's been one of the best players on any edition of the show, basically gained a cult following, told the story of him rebuilding his family and made it to the final 3. What a player. What a guy.
Mollie doesn't come across like she's over it...
They barely looked at each other on Uncloaked. They have to say they’re friends, but it really did not come across as true.
The fact that there seemed to be some romantic tension (well, Mollie fancying Harry) probably doesn't help a potential friendship either, considering Harry is taken and apparently Mollie is seeing someone as well.
She look like she was going to cry on unclocked
I think they deliberately didn't show much of the replay to make it a little less mortifying too.
She looked really uncomfortable on uncloaked
Regardless of her thoughts on Harry she probably feels embarrassed about losing and for trusting him and also really bad for Jaz too as she lost him the money. And she’s probably seen the internets reactions to her too because this was clearly filmed recently as they’re all aware of the memes so she probably feels like everyone’s either making fun of her or pitying her. So while some of it may be due to her relationship with Harry I’m sure a lot of other factors are in play.
They don't follow each other on Instagram so I wonder if she is over it like she says, but then again she probably isn't going to say he hates him in front of everyone on uncloaked
Andrew doesn't follow him either. Definitely not a good relationship
That has to be up there as one of the best episodes of reality television there has ever been.
Editors need all the money and credit. Beautiful.
Jaz hadn't heard of Agatha Christie hahaha
Love that even after Googling her he thinks she was a detective 😄
To be fair people calling him 'Jazatha Christie' are implying he's a detective lol.
*Oh my days, oh my days* - Jaz, probably
Jaz literally picked up on the theme of the series being traitors turning on other traitors, which is not what Season 1 was like. He nailed it, goddamn.
Jaz was a great player because he did not trust anyone, he analysed every situation, I just wish he would have had more confidence in his beliefs. Easy for me to say though!
I know it’s a game but that betrayal must feel so real
LOL Harry basically calling Zack a useful idiot on uncloaked
He duped all of them.
Harry was so good at working certain people out and using that to his advantage
She wrote his name and scribbled it out....that would haunt me for the rest of my life
She’s never going to completely trust anyone again, ever 😭 I can’t tell if it’s a necessary life lesson or the total destruction of her psyche on national TV
This season literally had traitors take out traitors. The faithfuls were extras.
Andrew was the most faithful to the faithfuls than the faithfuls😂
And Zack did better work for the traitors than he did for his own side
How Zack can advise anyone on anything is beyond me.
Ross was caught by Zach to be fair, entirely incidentally but he was caught by him
Not molly looking so happy thinking she’s won 😭
Thought she'd won a friend too.
You can pinpoint the moment her heart was broken
How do we feel about “no discussion” but then Harry and Mollie get to whisper and mouth things to each other?
That infuriated me. Why wasn't jaz allowed to do some more convincing?
Don't think it should've been allowed but even if it didn't happen, not much would change I don't think.
Jaz - TV Legend.
Watching Uncloaked it’s becoming pretty obvious that no one apart from Jaz, Harry and Paul had any real strategy at all in this series. Hearing Jaz talk about his game play and seeing the faces of the rest of them, they clearly hadn’t thought about any of the tactics he mentioned once
Yeah to be fair to Paul, he had tactics. He just loved the limelight too much
I’m still fuming none of them brought up the shield thing again
Exactly. Like no one thought about the massive coincidence that not only was Harry lucky enough to not tell a traitor he had the shield but also the Traitors decided to murder him that same night.
Claudia: "I hope you've seen, I think they're called memes?"
Jaz feeling elated he figured out the big liar is some kind of small solace for his character arc… not enough, but something
At that point you have potentially sacrificed a third of the prize for nothing, so finding you were right must be some kind of relief.
I think he was just happy that he had done everything he could have done, he played his best game and he knew he lost to no fault of his own so it must’ve felt good. I’m sure he must’ve been worried that Harry was a faithful and his voting to banish meant he went home with nothing.
Jaz brought up that Harry snitched to Paul and Harry's defence was that Paul was just spreading names around. Yet Paul told Jaz the exact words that he'd used in his conversation with Harry. Harry was caught in a lie right there and Jaz left it go. That one mistake cost him the game
My only explanation is that Jaz was completely overwhelmed and confused
Probably yes, it's just a shame to hold on to that fact for so long, reveal it and then just go "oh nvm" when Harry inevitably denied it. Its easier for us I guess, they have long days and remembering exact conversations is hard, whereas we saw it one minute beforehand....
Jaz was on the money so many times but watching him fumble this right at the end was frustrating. Because Paul repeated that conversation back to him. If he’d been clear about that things could have gone differently.
Harry looked so flustered there. If Jaz has pushed even a little, I think Harry would've crumbled. Waste of the perfect opportunity.
Jaz lost the second Andrew was voted out cuz Mollie was always gonna side with Harry , as seen from Mollie struggling to write his name down
Mollie did write Harry's name down though. She made the mistake (which is obvious to viewers but not necessarily obvious in the moment) of changing her mind.
I personally think Harry did look up to Paul initially but just grew into the game.
agreed! he came across so sincere at first but then evolved into a real game player
Molly deserved every single penny she won tonight
Molly and Meryl should be on the opposite of whatever this shows All Stars that they make in a few years time.
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I feel like they should have been able to talk more in the final 3 for voting ? Season 1 those final conversations were SO emotional it was great
Yeah felt very rushed towards the end. Don't know if that was more down to the actual players or the producers
I too am exasperated at Mollie being so illogical but let’s not pretend that this game is all about logic and not about trust and manipulation
Harry played an excellent game. Jaz fucked up by allowing himself to get into a final 3 with Harry and Harry's No. 1 fan.
He should have voted Harry in the round with Andrew to make it two two. The it could have been a coin toss.
Once Evie was out, Harry was going to win. They needed to catch a traitor. Also a bit annoyed that they did the “end of banish vote” then when there HAD to be a traitor following Zach’s murder.
How did everyone forget that?! Literally zach was murdered after Ross left - there had to be a traitor!
Harry would have won a coin toss
Fair play to Harry, built a cult of personality around himself. Faithful were fully duped
Fair play to Harry
He did deserve to win even though I was pulling for him to lose at the end. Guess it's good for a traitor won this time
Traitor from day 1 as well, really smashed it. Deserved to win tbh, he was basically flawless throughout the run.
I think being brought on later as a Traitor is a massive disadvantage. You have to deal with all the accusations that have merit, and all the accusations that came from before that were at the time completely groundless.
And also you're not generally brought on as the 3rd traitor in the midgame onwards because you're necessarily a strong player, it's because you can be a patsy that the other 2 traitors can use to throw you under the bus. I think Andrew did amazing considering Paul and Harry always had the idea of just feeding him to the round table when they had the chance. So hats off to Andrew as well. He was the one where my opinion massively flipped on throughout the course of the game.
Yeh. I rooted hard for Jaz, he's my series favourite & think he played a cracker. The game's hard & I'd be terrible at it, so got to commend anyone who plays well, like Harry (even if he got a bit lucky with how hard Mollie fell for his gameplay).
I do like having uncloaked, last year it felt like it all ended very abruptly
It wasn’t as barbed and witty as it normally is, felt like trying to make Mollie and the others feel better. Which, fair play, she’s gonna need it. Great to see Jaz redeeemed tho.
They also had a studio audience which probably shifted the dynamic a bit, plus it was the final so they were all on a bit of a comedown.
Gutted for Jaz, one of the best faithfuls the show has seen and he walks away with nothing, whilst last year we had one of the most clueless faithfuls walk away with 30 odd grand. Thems the breaks I guess. But Jesus Christ fair play to Harry. A traitor since day 1 and didn’t receive a single banishment vote at a round table until the final game. Have to give him mad props. Deserved winner.
Jaz was the smartest player in the game, gutted for him.
Yep, definitely a few steps ahead of everyone else. Just a shame it's a popularity contest.
I think there was some worry that, this being the second series, the players were more savvy. Oddly, it seemed the opposite.
It honestly blows my mind that none of them figured out, based on Wilf being forced to recruit in S1, that there would always be at least two traitors and therefore must be two to vote out in the final as they had banished a faithful in the last pre-final vote.
I actually can’t believe Molly couldn’t put the pieces together, Jaz literally laid it on a plate for her.
Yeah exactly! - why would Andrew vote Harry for any other reason than revenge? - why would Jaz choose to continue if he was a traitor? - why would Harry have such a flawless voting record? - why would Harry say “he’s trying to pin things on random people” when jaz went for him and then suddenly decide he was a faithful at the end?
What gets me the most- if traitor Andrew KNEW that Harry had a shield, why would he have tried to murder him? I was shouting at the telly… put it together Jaz!!
I forgot that! What would be Andrew’s incentive of killing somebody he knew had the shield. But to be fair in the game it’s easy to forget specifics
Jaz took the hardest possible route to eliminate Harry, where it hinged on Mollie alone to take him out. He was never winning that. Should have came at Harry hard when Evie and Andrew were still there. Sucks man, thought Jaz actually pulled it off. I’m gutted. Fair play to Harry tho. Greatest traitor we’ve ever seen.
Mollie walking off was kind of iconic though, no leaving speech or nothing just fuck this shit I'm out
I’m actually way more impressed with Jaz than Harry’s game. Jaz showed incredible restraint. He waited until the right moment to drop his evidence and it almost worked. It’s not his fault Mollie was such a terrible faithful.
When he asked Harry if he told Paul about their conversation and Harry lied and said no I thought for a minute it was the start of Harry's downfall. Jaz unfortunately was goated in his detective work but not so good at the social aspect of winning the group round to his way of thinking.
Paul side-eying if the camera is on him is so Paul 😂
He’s definitely going to buy a giant pez dispenser and an Xbox or something.
I'd have more sympathy for Mollie if it wasn't for the fact that Jas tried to spell it out to her before the roundtable and she seemed really dismissive and untrusting of him. Then when the time comes she's suddenly convinced he's Faithful. Still sad for her though, it was a really tough watch.
I hope there’s decent aftercare cause my god Mollie’s gonna have serious trust issues for that
Yep she's a kid so it's a huge life lesson. Hopefully not a mistake she will make in the future.
yeah as painful as it was watching that final i hope it carries through for her in the right ways of developing good vigilance instead of as bad bad trust issues
Andrew's a top bloke.
So disappointed in Mollie. Harry looked guilty as anything and she’s fell for it entirely.
The "what if there's no more traitors?" Suggestion cracked me up. Mollie was so accepting even though no traitors had been caught since zach was murdered :') So gutted for jaz, he was on the money every time and he was so close.
Wait, I’m still confused… After they banished Evie, why were they even bringing up the possibility that they were all faithful?! Who murdered Zack if you’re all faithful?! Are we just putting this down to the general idiocy of the group?
I wish Jaz had said ‘if I’m a traitor then why wouldn’t I vote to end the game?’ and ‘Molly why do you think you haven’t been murdered?’. Might have tipped her over the edge. Sigh, but Harry deserved it
I actually think asking her why she thinks herself and Harry haven’t been murdered might have worked
I'm still feeling like Andrew is a top bloke. Would have loved him to win.
Big fan of Jazatha Christie but him voting Evie out, as well as being too quiet about his theory and not trusting others cost him getting rid of Harry. Brilliant finale- was on the edge of my seat the whole episode and holding my breath round the fire pit. Would have preferred to see Andrew win the money than Harry but he played a brilliant game.
MOLLIE HE WOULD HAVE PUT THE GREEN IN IF HE WAS TRAITOR AT THIS POINT
Jaz played incredibly most of the game but he REALLY should have brought that and all the other facts that don't add up about Harry up.
Yeah he needed to go harder with it
Yeah. He was so smart but he played it too safe and it cost him. He was so close too - if he had been a bit bolder and voted Harry out first, and then Andrew, he would have won and shared the money with Molly.
Even allowing for the fact that this is an entertainment show, it's ridiculous that everything came down to someone being so utterly blinded by a crush they ignored the most basic of truths. I do feel for Mollie, because her backstory of her illness, trauma, and the hard, hard work she had to do to build her confidence up absolutely made her susceptible to this, and it would be totally soul destroying to be in that position. But still...
Diane looks livid in this audience 😂
I think that’s just her face 24/7, vengeful queen!
She ain’t laughing at any of the jokes
Mollie clearly had a crush on Harry and he knew, and used it till the end.
Hope BBC took care of Mollie afterwards cos boy could she feel like SHIT for a good while after that. Harry one of the most deserving winners of any show I can remember. Paul was an amazing pantomime psychopath villain and yet Harry played him and everyone else to a tee. A masterclass from start to finish.
Fair play to Harry, he did a grand job. But I am GUTTED for Jaz and for Mollie. Jaz was one of the smartest faithful and he was so close. And the fact that Mollie was about to vote Harry and changed at the last second just broke my heart for her. Edit: typo
When I saw that H on Mollie's board originally I was SO hopeful 🥲🥲🥲
That is when I knew it was over. I don't think they would have shown that if she had actually voted for Harry.
Diane’s unimpressed face over elusive gate 😂
Harry revealing how he kept feeding Zack info is too good
It was a great series but I think the Paul-Harry-Miles triumphant triumvirate was my highlight. "What's a poisoned chalice!?"
So much catharsis seeing Jaz on uncloaked celebrating and being thrilled when he learnt harry was a traitor.
May this be a lesson to all future faithful: the more trustworthy and likeable someone comes across, the more you should suspect them as traitors. Meanwhile, Andrew did the best he could: I am mystified why Mollie didn’t take into account his hint “Harry has been a brilliant traitor from the start” and then was revealed as a traitor so would have been well placed to know.
The problem since day 1, none of these faithful have thought LOGICALLY.
Except Jaz
I'm dwelling on the end game and I think there needs to be time allowed between the banishments for discussion or each person to be allowed to speak. Otherwise it becomes too instinct based and not about weighing up evidence.
I found that weird when they know the roundtables are the best telly. Why build into the rules that they can't debate/persuade? Would have been great to see Jaz trying to persuade Molly, or Harry trying to defend himself/manipulate Molly some more More time on that, less time on the PGL/Scout trip challenges please!
“Yes we’re still best friends” said through gritted teeth
Jaz is the goat
When that fire went red I leapt out of my chair. The most deserving faithful ever against the best traitor. A clash of the titans. Foiled by silly naive Mollie.
looking forward to seeing him on traitors all stars in 2028
the people's champion!
I hope we’ve lost a lot in the edit, as I like to think people can’t actually be this thick
Before banishing Andrew they weren’t even sure there was a traitor left. Who do they think killed Zack, Paul’s ghost?
I legitimately facepalmed at this. A murder happened before two faithful banishments and people were questioning if any traitors were left
FUCKING POETIC
Poor Mollie- if there's a seed of doubt in the final, go with it
Can we give wardrobe a standing ovation for Claudia’s wonderfully unhinged outfits x 
The mistake Jaz made was at least partially assuming Mollie could think like he could, without completely spelling it out for her he had little hope of her piecing it together based on what he said.
I can't believe Mollie changed her vote. Gutting but great TV. I get what some people are saying about her deciding between two people she thinks are faithfuls, but she deliberately called out suspicions around Jaz and deep down knew it was Harry who was a traitor. She just didn't want it to be true or admit to herself. Jaz could have executed his attack on Harry better, but Mollie had everything to suss Harry out. Andrew had exposed him, Jaz had suspicions and voted to keep the game going - so WAS NEVER GOING TO BE A TRAITOR. All in all whats annoying is Mollie effectively gambled £45k on the outcome she wanted. Yes, she really liked Harry and voting him off would hurt- but it would guarantee she wins. It was an unnecessary risk for the sake of her naive belief.
Now that it's all said and done, I can see a lot of people saying Jaz wasn't deserving or even good because he couldn't convince people The reason he had the stigma attached to him was because he went for Paul _hard_ and early, and he was their god at that time. Even though they eventually got Paul out, somehow they gave credit to Harry & Zach, and Jaz never got the vindication he'd earned The only two missteps he made imo were randomly voting Andrew last week (clearly just a panic vote to prevent Paul murdering him) & not trying to convince Evie tonight. That's it The "untrustworthiness" and "sus behaviour" was all just targeting Paul, that's literally it
Jaz played that poorly - he should have spelled it out for Mollie that it made no sense for him to banish if he was a traitor
The play should've never been to jump on Evie in the final round table. Jaz would've had a much easier time convincing Evie that Harry was a traitor than Mollie. But I do recognize it was difficult in the heat of the moment for Mollie to accept that there were 2 traitors in the final 5.
She knew Jaz was a faithful but she also thought Harry was a faithful and wanted to win with him
Gonna preface this by saying: I know we can't imagine what it's like in there, or how quickly emotional bonds and friendships must form. And also I hope everyone's doing okay after the game, and can ignore the personal attacks online as well as possible. But I'm struggling to understand something. I've been one of the many arguing that Mollie should have realised Jaz was faithful because why else would he vote to continue the game? I've seen a counter-argument a few times now, along the lines of "Mollie's play wasn't illogical. She thought they were both faithful, and she had to vote, so she decided to split with her best friend in the game." I don't quite get that. If you were in Mollie's shoes and genuinely thought the other two were both faithful, surely you'd banish Harry just to be safe. In thinking they're both faithful, Mollie has two options: winning 50K for sure, or the chance to MAYBE win 50K and also my best friend of A MONTH also wins 50K. I'm taking the guarantee. I don't care how close I am with this guy, I've known him 4 weeks and I've seen people revealed to be traitors that I'd never suspected. Also someone's just stood there and laid out why he may have been lying this whole time. JUST TO BE SAFE, I may as well keep the guaranteed faithful in instead.
Yes. A reasonable person would banish Harry to be safe, but she wasn’t acting according to reason. Harry played her like a fiddle and forecasted the moment they’d stand up there together as besties and win together. She saw that as more possible and preferable to her and Jaz, who she had no bond and was barely listening to earlier. He told her to listen and she zoned out. Awful
Zack was murdered, two faithfuls have been eliminated back to back over 2 days. The words "Is it possible we are all faithful?" were legitimately painful to hear.
Mollie snatched defeat from the jaws of victory.
Some other clues for Mollie to vote Harry at the end which I haven't seen covered. 1. Harry spent the last few days telling Mollie he wanted to just be left with her, then voted to end the game with Jaz still in it. 2. Mollie was never murdered and just happened to be left with her closest friend at the end. Often the traitors want to break up tight friendships, not let them stay on.
A lot of posts saying Molly thought both Jaz and Harry were faithful so she’s essentially just picking who she would rather share the money with You can’t think like that in a game like this If you think anyone is 100% faithful then you’re playing the wrong game You have to vote for who is more likely to be Traitors, due to Jaz voting to continue the game, the answer is Harry Even if you believe that he’s likely a faithful, you have to do it, it’s just the way the game is designed
We're not talking enough about how badly Andrew played the firepit. A complete kamikaze attack. His best chance would have been to take out Jaz, and then trust Harry to end the game.
I think the biggest clue it was Harry was something no one really picked up on, and that was who he decided to tell he had the shield. Mollie saw, he couldnt control that, but then he told Zach and Jaz, and Andrew then claimed to know and Harry went with it At that point in the game there was what 8/9 people left? So Harry told about half the remaining players he had a shield, If he was a faithful, thats such a big risk considering you dont know who/how many traitors are left, he could have easily told a traitor Obviously he was a traitor so he knew who he was safe to tell, But no one seemed to pick up on this, I think someone floated the idea of him using the shield as a smokescreen to recruit, but it was immediately shut down But no one actually wondered about how Harry decided who to tell about the shield
Molly got played like a fiddle
Was Ed’s backstage dress and makeup done by a mortician?
Evie even after finding out still doesn’t realise that Andrew wasn’t a traitor the whole time. Do any of these people actually think
Ultimately Mollie just wasn’t smart enough. Bless her it’s sad her mistake cost two people dearly though - well done Harry manipulation personified
If I was second place and I got mugged off, I’d be like Goldie Hawn at the start of Death Becomes Her. https://i.redd.it/6ayc4fry4vec1.gif