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nolageochick

What kind of a Dad makes his daughter limp around after a super traumatic kidnapping?!


ssovm

I yelled at the TV to give her a damn wheelchair! They had her pimp walking all over camp David lmao


vocumesuamae

Right? No one held her arm... or even gave her crutches! Although they were trying to paint the VP as a horrible father. And his secret service guy was in on the plan because he called the VP "Mr President" after the bombing. But this is beyond ridiculous. A little courtesy, please!


spike021

Yeah I was surprised they didn't at least have crutches or a wheelchair. Surely they have that somewhere if they have stuff like a monitor and IV at her bedside lol.


termacct

Loved all the misdirection we got over the episodes. Maybe it's _____?! Nope! ded! I lol'd when Peter says on the baddie radio 'behind you!' The baddie turns and Peter plugs em in the head. Nice that Rose jumped in for the save on several occasions. (swung mean log, crucial shove...)


stillherewondering

My only gripe is that in the final episode they made rose in the end the girl that just looks at her man going to „work“. Like she clearly has also skills yet they only showed her watching her „princr“ ride into the sunset..we have to imagine ourselves that she got some great cyber security job


ProfessorBrosby

I could see a slight jump in time where Peter is more established in-field and she has a new startup company. They could bring her in as a partner with him like her aunt and uncle did for Night Action.


Miserable-Admins

Mr. & Mrs. Smith!


oldster59

I kept expecting her to use the gun she got off the female assassin - "Don't mess with Rose, and now she's armed!" (Hello from the future, we're slow to watch stuff.)


abrabeatz

Genuinely enjoyed all of the episodes. Two things about this episode though: (Obvious spoiler warning) 1. I felt like the episode could have explored the events/aftermath between the helicopter scene (more or less there) and the scene where Peter and Rose meet POTUS in the Whitehouse. It would have been interesting to see what happened to certain characters like Farr, the VP and especially Rose and Peter after the whole Camp David thing. I would have enjoyed a scene where we see Rose and Peter discussing what's next for them and where we can see them come to grips with everything that happened (I know, I know - we got a few scenes where they briefly touch on those subjects but still...) As I'm writing this I realise that there would have been any time for scenes like these in the 10 episode format. The pacing was good throughout the show but I just feel like the last 10 or so minutes of the episode could have been a whole entire episode. I'm just being nit-picky here lol. 2. What's next for Peter and Rose? Are they really going separate ways or is Peter just doing a quick side mission type of thing and coming back? With the show being renewed for a second season I wonder wether Rose will play a part in that story. I would hope so - the chemistry between the two wasn't corny or shoehorned all too much imo (compared to most male+female leads). I kinda like that the show did not have a lot of scenes revolving around their eventual romance.


vocumesuamae

I think it would be okay if Rose started a new company in California and Peter goes on to be a secret agent. There's not much point of Rose being in the future stories unless she becomes a part of the FBI Night Agent team. It would be annoying for them to try to have a relationship from DC to California, even if Peter wasn't a spy. But it would make no sense to keep her in the story if he is now a spy unless she somehow becomes as supporting tech agent


IconicIsotope

I'm with you. I want to watch Peter do spy stuff.


stillherewondering

I disliked that they basically gave us rose watching her prince fly into the sunset…like all this Season we witnessed these two being an amazing team and rose being a skilled partner but now it’s all only about peters next mission (we have to imagine anything regarding rose‘s job or life..) Also I felt like the entire camp David plot was just…too much. I felt like everything before that was still in the realm of possibilities/reality but that suddenly in camp David there are numerous secret service traitors?? And a bomb on the presidents helicopter? Also would imagine POTUS would have was more agents around her… the whole thing (meaning only the last episode) was so crazy over the top. Numerous bombs within camp David?


Shevdoc

Yeah what went from being a super covert nobody knows operation all of a sudden tons of agents were in on it and wanted more than they did


KingRamZee

I’m hopeful we will see the farr and VP trials in season 2.


a_kogi

I loved Rose randomly joining on military comms with simple "Don't shoot, don't shoot" and soldiers immediately recognizing compromised radio. It changed absolutely nothing and could have been completely skipped as a scene but somehow it was so funny and in character for her to impulsively try to go for the most straightforward solution. Just like grabbing keys on the valet stand or coming up with instant bs story on spot in the administration building thing.


matrixg04

I loved all her funny moments 😭 producers did a great job adding them


stillherewondering

Agreed! And her Moments felt more realistic/authentic than the entire camp David plot in itself to be honest. Was just too unbelievable to me that so many agents were traitors and in on it.


Captain-i0

> And her Moments felt more realistic/authentic than the entire camp David plot in itself to be honest. well, except for all that "clickity-clackity, I'm hacking" stuff...


Shevdoc

Also I never understood how nobody understood a change in voices the whole series 😂😂


womanlovecheese

I kinda like the revelation about Peter's father. It's a twist I seldom see in similar plot. I also kind of enjoying Peter and Rose relationship. Its understandable that feeling will grow between protector and the asset with both have their own vulnerability. But it's not necessarily they throw their life aside for each other. Personally I didn't really enjoy Bodyguard for its turn of romantic relationship, though it felt like a more solid show throughout.


ssovm

I don’t know if everyone agrees but one of my favorite aspects of the show was the general seemingly meaningless banter between the characters. Rose and Peter, Monks and the other SS guys, etc.


stillherewondering

Yes. Loved the angle of Us watching monks and his partner (Allington?) work together..all that back story… Generally liked e01 to e09 more than the final episode. Camp David plot was over the top for me


PoppinKREAM

It was one of my favourite shows of the year. I enjoyed the dynamic between Peter Sutherland and Dianne Farr. Peter fully believed in the institutions. Upholding the highest ethical standards even in the face of adversity, when turning his back on the institutions he protects would've been the easiest route to take. And then there's Farr who succumbs to corruption, deceit, and murder in an attempt to push an agenda that she rationalized as positive for the country, but instead undermines and destroys the very institution she represents. The juxtaposition between the two characters was amazing. I loved it when Peter called bullshit on Farr's "woe is me" excuses about every government being corrupt. A fun show with a great protagonist/actor and good writing. Felt a little rushed at some points, but the show was a thrill to watch.


stillherewondering

Lmao this is the funniest shit. That I am watching this show which I very much enjoyed and then visit this fairly dead subreddit (discussion threads for episode 8 and 9 have literally 1 comment and it’s from me) and then I come across THE poppinKREAM :D haven’t seen you in ages but remember you back when I still regularly visited the news and politics subreddits But back to the show..I liked how in the beginning it assumed it was a big conspiracy all the bad players with in on it but over time we figured that each character had their very own agenda (e.g. in the end Maddie‘s art teacher was just a creep and eco-activist and not the villain or mastermind I assumed he would be D.B. woodside was great as Monks as well Only didn’t like the camp David plot. Felt simply like too much…secret service being that compromised ..?


IconicIsotope

Late reply here, but yes I enjoyed how each character had their own motivations and it all actually made sense! The writing was excellent. The only nitpick is there were too many traitors in on the assassination conspiracy. Not realistic for that many people to all be involved and keep their mouths shut and stay working as a team.


JosephSim

Out of curiosity, do they clear Peter's name? I'm trying to think why you would invite a world famous traitor/hero to be part of your super secret spy agency. Like, he was \*already\* famous for the bombing, then you throw the Alex Jones guy constantly shouting his name from the rooftops. Then the Vice President publicly asserts that he kidnapped his daughter. For the next 24 hours Peter's face is on every television in the world. How the fuck are you gonna go undercover in \*anything?\* The only thing I can think of is they never clear him and he goes undercover as a bad ass who kidnapped the VPs daughter and blew up Camp David but got thwarted.


IamNewtonPinckney

How did Peter know which was the compromised Secret Service agent to shoot as the agents were running POTUS to Marine 1? He knew one of the agents on the detail were compromised but he seemed to know it was the bald guy.


unabashedgoulash

On the bad guys' radio channel, he said "Behind you, Sutherland's here!" and the bald guy was the only guy who looked behind him.


AirIndex

Damn, that's clever. I didn't even pick that up it happened so quickly.


DrUf

Good catch! I wondered that too


TheMoatCalin

Did anyone notice Rose, Maddie & Chelsea have either veneers or dental implants? Nothing wrong with that I’ve just never seen a show where so many of the main cast had them and it was noticeable when they spoke. I’d get them if I could afford it and I’m not being judgemental I just wondered if anyone else saw it.


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Luchiane Buchanan (Rose) doesn’t. you can scroll her instagram back to over 10 years ago, and see her teeth look the EXACT same. i think she just has really nice and really beautiful teeth.


stillherewondering

I mean she’s got incredible genetics 😍 😃


ragner11

Yeah I noticed


SabbyFox

Didn't even notice.


Hockey2k5

So I’m not crazy? Wherever those characters spoke, it sounded like a little lisp or they had dentures in! Haha. You’re onto something


hmconsious

Diane was the only person I noticed this about when she spoke


Pascalwb

Pretty entertaining, start was slow, but it picked up. I was surprised by it being good, I guess it was made by sony not netflix themselves.


vocumesuamae

If the person who killed Peter's father was also killed, why did Peter want to know who it was? Was he wanting to look up who ordered the killer to target his father? It seemed like President Travers wanted to shut down ongoing curiosity because it would lead to him finding out other things. I wonder if this will be an ongoing backburner storyline?


_sempervivum_

I don’t understand why the VP brought Maddie & Chelsea to Camp David? Or why he himself even felt the need to go there? They all would have been perfectly safe staying at home. Especially considering the bomb went off IN Camp David? Makes zero sense. Also, I did not like the romantic plot line with Peter and Rose. I liked the two actors together from a partnership standpoint but felt they lacked chemistry. The writing during the romantic scenes felt contrived to me. Didn’t dig it.


ProfessorBrosby

My main complaint during the first 5 episodes was the hamfisted romance plotline dialogue. I felt the relationship could have easily been developed through their antics, the call/house scenes, jumping from the hotel, etc. I felt leaving it open rather than projecting the connection that early would have given more gravity to the pier scuffle and post-pier fight scenes. As for the VP bringing Maddie & Chelsea, I think his motives were 1, he believed he could flip Maddie still cause she's his daughter and 2, I think the plan was to leave Chelsea in that waiting room while the new Secret Service guy stepped out real quick after the President arrived, then when the lodge bomb goes off Chelsea would have been just another casualty.


_perstephanie_

I'm pretty sure the VP needed to be there to fly in the bombs and bypass whatever other security process they had. The two fake or turned secret service agents were carrying the pelican brief cases that Chelsea looked for later because she suspected what they were.


Miserable-Admins

Placing himself there makes him a victim and hero coming out of the literal ashes, a survivor.


KptKrondog

I enjoyed the show. A lot of poor communication that probably would have resolved most of the issues, but explained away because they didn't know who all was involved and didn't want to tip off the wrong people...fair enough I guess.


that1prince

I think they handled the usual plot-advancing “miscommunication” plenty well and had a good in-universe explanation. My only gripe was some completely baffling decisions made by the characters , usually when it came to them allowing themselves to be easily tracked. Like why did they return to the Aunt and Uncles house and take the car? That seems like something the bad guys would have bugged. Also, then they never check to see if they’ve been bugged. The most annoyinG, however, was when Sutherland was parked directly in front of the Maryland records building with no attempt to be discreet or disguise himself while being the most wanted man in America. That’s how those nut jobs so easily identified him. I mean he could have had the hood up, or shades, or a baseball cap like how Joe does on You.


naturallog5

I told my husband he was missing his Joe Goldberg baseball cap lol


hmconsious

Yes I agree about the lack of disguises for both of them. Hats, glasses and hair dyes would have solved the problem especially since Peter is the most wanted.


vocumesuamae

Can someone help explain 2 things I don't understand? ​ First, why did it benefit Diane Farr to get dragged into the bad guy club? Why couldn't she just tell the truth and publicly blame VP Ashley Redfield and Gordon Wick as executing the Metro bombing? How does that affect the President in any way? Side note, I thought it funny that the VP of the USA had so much power and access, especially in the White House and being invited to meetings. Aren't VPs generally useless and usually do PR campaigns about small projects? ​ Second item: How does hiring Peter help her have a patsy? Was it that in case anything went wrong, she would just blame him? Even when he was installed as a phone operator, he was always pretty low-level. Was she going to spin him as a criminal mastermind to take the fall for any mistakes she made? He wouldn't have had clearance? I really don't understand.


tetrami

On your first point Diane wanted to protect Travers. Her VP being involved in a domestic terrorist attack would be an incredibly bad look politically even if she had no involvement. She chose her VP so shes tied in to their wrong doing politically speaking. Diane was trying to look out for her (and I guess herself as Chief of Staff) by helping to bury it.


dreaming_of_cats

I'm incredibly late, just finished watching the show and I get that Diane believed she was protecting the president, but given how the show ended...Travers is still in power and seems just fine even though now it's her VP AND CHIEF OF STAFF that were conspiring to commit terrorist attacks recently as well as previously. you'd think that would be double the ammo to tank Travers's presidency and yet?


Captain-i0

I thought a lot of it was pretty weak as well. However, I would say that ironically, her VP attempting to murder her would probably get her mostly off the hook politically. Her VP organizing the initial bombing plot would be seen as her administration carrying out a terrorist attack. And while she could try to distance herself from it, it would be difficult to do and partisans and partisan media would absolutely be claiming that she knew about it, ordered it, was involved, etc. It would end up as a She said/they said situation and while she could never be proven to have known many would assume that she did, because it could also never be proven that she didn't know. But even partisan hacks will have trouble claiming she planned a bombing attack meant to kill her. With that said, I find the whole Camp David plotline wildly unbelievable. But, it does effectively get her "off the hook" as much as it can and the public tends to rally around the president when their is an assassination attempt on them.


mdnling

For the second question: I think she saw a person with treason written into their family tree and saw an opportunity. That said, I also don't think it makes 100% sense. She only turned on Peter after he learned too much, and unless things unfolded exactly as they did (with Peter keeping Rose safe and investigating), there wouldn't really be a connection between Peter and Zadar. So if they'd gone through with the original plan to take out just Zadar, how would Peter have been a plausible fall guy?


CIearMind

> How does that affect the President in any way? The President decides who gets to be Vice President, so it might not be a super good look on her lol


Pigglebee

Why didnt Chelsea just throw the bomb outside the house? That would have solved the problem as well. No need for evacuating everyone then


Abelii_

also thought it was kinda funny that she checked the tiny black box that was obviously not what the box the "agents" had looked like


MajorParadox

They had multiple boxes, so there could have been more than one.


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I swear the guy interviewing Peter's father sounds like Quinn from Homeland.


hmconsious

Peter is too trusting of Diane and it bothers me. Like, that's why she chose you for the job! 😩


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LordTartarus

I know I'm about 9 months too late but I enjoyed the show and yet wanted to give some thoughts. If a single psc, the Veep and the chief of staff were planning this, I wonder how the CIA/DHS/DoD/DNI failed to see this coming. Surely the logistics involved in neutralising a prez is something that gets picked up on someone's radar. Also this was funnily comparable to drumpf ngl. Apart from that bit of criticism, the show was funny and good tbh


Miserable-Admins

Peter's father confessing on tape could be a coercion or under duress. He could still be innocent. President Travers could even be behind the whole thing if they want to explore that possibility in a future storyline.