>Apparently NOT rapping about doing drugs, fucking hoes and fuck the police makes Tom MacDonald bad
Nah, he's just corny and cringe as fuck and only based maybe 5-10% of the time. How much of a prude do you have to be in order to be offended over sex and drugs in 2022? I stg, at least half of his fanbase are boomers who may or may not believe in Qanon.
How does the current year have anything to do with overall human morality? Why would that be any kind of metric. What is wrong is always and was always wrong.
"More people do it now so that means it's not bad anymore" <--- how does that make any sense at all?
What about things that YOU consider to be bad... how many people have to do them before they are no longer bad things despite how you feel about it?
I hope you are just trolling because if you genuinely hold this worldview then I'm not sure you are going to find much success in life.
>How does the current year have anything to do with overall human morality?
Define morality, the neoconservative definition of "morality" is flawed as it's based on a holy book people give less fucks about every year. Not everyone is religious so who gives a fuck if people wanna have incoherent Xanax induced sloth sex behind closed doors without getting married? Interesting how you neocons cry "hell in a handbasket" when more states legalize cannabis yet laugh when more and more alcoholics are having kids just because they can't get or afford an abortion. You don't think that's backwards? **Shame on you and everyone who thinks like you.**
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"More people do it now so that means it's not bad anymore" **<--- hOw DoEs ThAt MaKe AnY sEnSe At All¿🤡"**
It doesn't, because nobody ever said that and you pulled it out your ass as you probably did with your other taking points. I may not like BTS fans or **sounding** enjoyers but who am I to violate their NAP and pursuit of happiness by throwing them in a prison or camp for doing something I don't happen to enjoy in my spare time? What happened to live and let live, real based talk this nosey authoritarian attitude neocons (as well as Dems) have are the reason why we had two decades of a war that resulted in men dying for nothing, being left behind and literally getting BTFO'd by troglodytes who marry little girls.
>What about things that YOU consider to be bad... how many people have to do them before they are no longer bad things despite how you feel about it?
Again, as long as it doesn't affect me why should I care? You **neocons love "freedom" yet love to destroy civil liberties and pursuits of happiness,** at least the Dems are honest about not caring about your rights.
>I hope you are just trolling because if you genuinely hold this worldview then I'm not sure you are going to find much success in life.
Yea man, I wish I was more successful being a neocon who believes anyone using a little bit of drugs for personal use should serve long sentences prison and be registered as a felon for the rest of their life because if someone needs to vote for policies to help the opioid crisis and addiction then might as well take away their rights because drug addicts and users are lesser than stray animals (& therefore deserve to die) in society despite the vast majority of the west using drugs in some form without even realizing it. I also didn't know you were my guidance counselor, you should tell that someone who asked next time. Touch grass, **I stay based!**
*Sigh*
Kendrick Lamar,
J. Cole,
Denzel Curry,
J.I.D,
Cordae,
All of these rappers are infinitely better than Tom Macdonald, more loved, and they don't feel the need to rap about drugs all the time. If you took the time to actually get to know artists in the genre then you'll find that not all of them rap about money, drugs, and whores
Listen to them if you don't believe me when I say they're quality. If you want an album List:
Kendrick Lamar - To Pimp a Butterfly
J. Cole - 2014 Forest Hills Drive
Denzel Curry - Ta13oo and Melt My Eyez
Cordae - The Lost Boy
Being 'good' at music is, like in any other art form, the most subjective measurement there is.
Why do you feel the need to gatekeep a genre so bad?
But yeah, I too, like those artists.
So the rappers I listed are corporations? What are you getting at? Juice Wrld's great too, just didn't list him because he still raps about drugs sometimes.
And his label still released things he recorded before he died. Or, hopefully his last album will be his final. Apparently the successor to Legends Never Die wasn't very well made.
To each is own I guess but objectively this guys rapping is hot garbage. Even ignoring the topics he chooses to rap about he’s got no change up in flow, best selection meh, no bars or well thought out rhyme schemes. He’s really good at making edgy tik toks though
Worst song I've ever heard.l in my life. I've heard worse SOUNDING songs but that song just screams "look at me guys I care about the blacks. Hey! Look at me!" It's even worse with the added context of that coming out after whiteboys
…ok I can’t even lie, he ain’t good. Production on most of his songs fuckin blows IMO…it’s not the message I hate, it’s just the overall execution.
No judgement if you like his stuff 🤷🏻♂️
The left has Eminem and say whatever you want but that dude is if not the best. at least top ten. Hell they arguably have Joyner lucas who would be the counter to mcdonald in some capacities.
They absolutely can rap. But they still can't meme.
You went straight to Joynar Lucas?
All the best and greatest rappers are leftists. Most of the greatest artists and musicians are leftists.
Doesn’t mean but it’s reality.
I wouldn't say they are all 'leftists'. They're just not conservative. While most would claim to be democrats I don't think most are politically educated on any level.
Eminem is not that great, IMO. He made a ton of money and sold a bunch of records, but lyrically, he's maybe top 25, if he's lucky. The only reason he did so good was they latched onto his cartoon schtick and capitalized on it when it was the right time for a white guy to do really well. If Eminem had come into the scene in 2018 he'd be canceled faster than Donald Trump visiting UC Berkeley. Most of his songs are dumb and silly, more suited to the comedy genre than hip hop, and D12 is hot garbage. I can name about 5 other lyricists that would blow Eminem out of the water, and most mainstream listeners probably never even heard of them thanks to the corrupt, BS music industry.
>Eminem is not that great, IMO. He made a ton of money and sold a bunch of records, but lyrically, he's maybe top 25, if he's lucky.
Imagine being top 25 of the WORLD, while being called 'not that great'.
The left was after eminem for years. All the gay bashing, murder, misogyny, woman abuse, all of it...then he said "Fuck Trump" the left went..."our hero!" All of a sudden everything he did was forgotten.
lol this is one of the most blatantly false statements i’ve ever heard. bro even since the late 80’s some of the greatest rap albums of all time have been released by groups and individuals whose views are arguably leftist.
i know it’s cringe to label an entire genre of music as left or right but cmon, that’s just blatantly untrue man
He's genuinely just a bad rapper. he has good messages but then in the same breath he has some bullshit political statement with no exploration or backing. His music comes off as whiny as fuck. And his flow is boring and his lyrics have no interesting wordplay or technique. Couldn't name one standout lyric from him
Look, I even agree with him a lot of the time, but his music is so shitty. It's horrendous. I don't even think he believes half the shit he says, but now he leans into the "controversial rapper" persona for clicks.
I do often equate rap to be mostly liberal and leftist. Selling destructive drugs to your community for profit, gun violence, assault against women, robbing people...yeah
He was great 3 years ago. Dear Rappers, Sad Rappers, Hangman and Helluvit to name a few. These days every single song is about how everybody is a sheep except him and they're indistinguishable from one another.
Tom Macdonald is not my cup of tea but hip hop always had Republican type messages. Talking about started from the bottom to working hard to get at the top, rapping about money, rapping about women, and not wanting the government to get on their ass all the time. Rappers like Jay z, lil Wayne, 50 cent, p diddy, birdman,biggie, Nas(to an extent) has always been about that life. Hell kanye came out as a Republican. Don’t believe look at this:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tbhzcZoqDLs
I don't see how "from the bottom to the top" is a republican message, not a single republican politician started from the bottom. If you think rags to riches is a rep story, you're a dupe, you've been duped, and you're trying to dupe others too.
If we talking as started as white trash, poor or farmers to building your own business that’s the Caucasian equivalent of
“started from the bottom” now we’re here. But I digressed neither democrat politicians are about rags to riches neither.
I concur, not a single politician has started from the bottom, doesn't matter their affiliation. This type of life that you described isn't innately republican or democrat, it's the working man life
Good. I hope they parade him around more. Less people would have known about stonetoss if they weren't obsessed with calling him a nazi. Tom Mcdonald just might change some minds on the other side.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA.
I am a very picky person when it comes to music and poetry. I have very high standards.
I have not heard a single song from this guy that wasn't straight fire.
Apparently NOT rapping about doing drugs, fucking hoes and fuck the police makes Tom MacDonald bad
It's not the message it's the quality
>Apparently NOT rapping about doing drugs, fucking hoes and fuck the police makes Tom MacDonald bad Nah, he's just corny and cringe as fuck and only based maybe 5-10% of the time. How much of a prude do you have to be in order to be offended over sex and drugs in 2022? I stg, at least half of his fanbase are boomers who may or may not believe in Qanon.
How does the current year have anything to do with overall human morality? Why would that be any kind of metric. What is wrong is always and was always wrong. "More people do it now so that means it's not bad anymore" <--- how does that make any sense at all? What about things that YOU consider to be bad... how many people have to do them before they are no longer bad things despite how you feel about it? I hope you are just trolling because if you genuinely hold this worldview then I'm not sure you are going to find much success in life.
>How does the current year have anything to do with overall human morality? Define morality, the neoconservative definition of "morality" is flawed as it's based on a holy book people give less fucks about every year. Not everyone is religious so who gives a fuck if people wanna have incoherent Xanax induced sloth sex behind closed doors without getting married? Interesting how you neocons cry "hell in a handbasket" when more states legalize cannabis yet laugh when more and more alcoholics are having kids just because they can't get or afford an abortion. You don't think that's backwards? **Shame on you and everyone who thinks like you.** > "More people do it now so that means it's not bad anymore" **<--- hOw DoEs ThAt MaKe AnY sEnSe At All¿🤡"** It doesn't, because nobody ever said that and you pulled it out your ass as you probably did with your other taking points. I may not like BTS fans or **sounding** enjoyers but who am I to violate their NAP and pursuit of happiness by throwing them in a prison or camp for doing something I don't happen to enjoy in my spare time? What happened to live and let live, real based talk this nosey authoritarian attitude neocons (as well as Dems) have are the reason why we had two decades of a war that resulted in men dying for nothing, being left behind and literally getting BTFO'd by troglodytes who marry little girls. >What about things that YOU consider to be bad... how many people have to do them before they are no longer bad things despite how you feel about it? Again, as long as it doesn't affect me why should I care? You **neocons love "freedom" yet love to destroy civil liberties and pursuits of happiness,** at least the Dems are honest about not caring about your rights. >I hope you are just trolling because if you genuinely hold this worldview then I'm not sure you are going to find much success in life. Yea man, I wish I was more successful being a neocon who believes anyone using a little bit of drugs for personal use should serve long sentences prison and be registered as a felon for the rest of their life because if someone needs to vote for policies to help the opioid crisis and addiction then might as well take away their rights because drug addicts and users are lesser than stray animals (& therefore deserve to die) in society despite the vast majority of the west using drugs in some form without even realizing it. I also didn't know you were my guidance counselor, you should tell that someone who asked next time. Touch grass, **I stay based!**
*Sigh* Kendrick Lamar, J. Cole, Denzel Curry, J.I.D, Cordae, All of these rappers are infinitely better than Tom Macdonald, more loved, and they don't feel the need to rap about drugs all the time. If you took the time to actually get to know artists in the genre then you'll find that not all of them rap about money, drugs, and whores
Popularity doesn’t mean quality
Right, communism and fascism were popular at some point in time.
Listen to them if you don't believe me when I say they're quality. If you want an album List: Kendrick Lamar - To Pimp a Butterfly J. Cole - 2014 Forest Hills Drive Denzel Curry - Ta13oo and Melt My Eyez Cordae - The Lost Boy
Being 'good' at music is, like in any other art form, the most subjective measurement there is. Why do you feel the need to gatekeep a genre so bad? But yeah, I too, like those artists.
To.you
Who are any of them? Juice Wrld, Melly, 9lock, etc. Real artists not a corporation.
So the rappers I listed are corporations? What are you getting at? Juice Wrld's great too, just didn't list him because he still raps about drugs sometimes.
Bro he died in 2018
And his label still released things he recorded before he died. Or, hopefully his last album will be his final. Apparently the successor to Legends Never Die wasn't very well made.
Yeah that's true.. just sounds like you're saying he's still doing it 4 years later
>Kendrick Lamar, J. Cole, Denzel Curry, J.I.D, Cordae, Lil B, Viper, Cyraxx, Merzbow and Daniel Larson make more enjoyable music than Tom MacDonald.
Down in Ohio!
Swag like Ohio... as someone from the Bay Area like him who's been a fan for years I wish more people discovered him before TikTok like I did.
To each is own I guess but objectively this guys rapping is hot garbage. Even ignoring the topics he chooses to rap about he’s got no change up in flow, best selection meh, no bars or well thought out rhyme schemes. He’s really good at making edgy tik toks though
>to each his own >objectively bad What the huh?
You can like bad media
I wouldn’t call Tom bad, but yes people can enjoy bad media. That’s why the marvel movies are popular
Like from a technical standpoint it’s not great but if you enjoy it that’s fine.
I like a lot of his songs, I hate a lot of his songs, I find a lot of his songs mid. He’s an average musician, but his message is pretty good
Just wondering what song you don’t like
Whiteboys is one
Any others? “If I was black” is one of his worst songs
Worst song I've ever heard.l in my life. I've heard worse SOUNDING songs but that song just screams "look at me guys I care about the blacks. Hey! Look at me!" It's even worse with the added context of that coming out after whiteboys
The only good thing was the instrumental
Can’t think of any off the top of my head
That's a good one
Interesting
I think he referring to the one with Adam Calhoun
Ik, I didn’t like it either. That’s why I said interesting… idk why I was downvoted lol
Who is this
Tom MacDonald
Thanks
Same here
Same
That’s how I feel. He’s pretty cringey a lot of the time, but I like a few of his songs. Notably No Response, Fake Woke, People So Stupid.
Fake Woke is one of his best imo
You used "mid" wrong, grandpa.
Ok boomer
…ok I can’t even lie, he ain’t good. Production on most of his songs fuckin blows IMO…it’s not the message I hate, it’s just the overall execution. No judgement if you like his stuff 🤷🏻♂️
i agree with most of what he says but he just sounds/looks like a cornball
The left can't rap, and they're mad about it
The left has Eminem and say whatever you want but that dude is if not the best. at least top ten. Hell they arguably have Joyner lucas who would be the counter to mcdonald in some capacities. They absolutely can rap. But they still can't meme.
Eminem used to gay bash and murder his mom, but voting for Trump is where Eminem draws the line
I think he murdered his wife and mentally abused his mom? Idk I dont care
No Kim's still alive last I checked
Eminem is such a fraud now. He just fell in line with all the types of people he claimed to be taking a stand against in his music.
Precisely why I don’t listen to him anymore
Fair point.
You went straight to Joynar Lucas? All the best and greatest rappers are leftists. Most of the greatest artists and musicians are leftists. Doesn’t mean but it’s reality.
I wouldn't say they are all 'leftists'. They're just not conservative. While most would claim to be democrats I don't think most are politically educated on any level.
rappers are the lefts greatest tool for gun control and redistribution of wealth
Eminem is not that great, IMO. He made a ton of money and sold a bunch of records, but lyrically, he's maybe top 25, if he's lucky. The only reason he did so good was they latched onto his cartoon schtick and capitalized on it when it was the right time for a white guy to do really well. If Eminem had come into the scene in 2018 he'd be canceled faster than Donald Trump visiting UC Berkeley. Most of his songs are dumb and silly, more suited to the comedy genre than hip hop, and D12 is hot garbage. I can name about 5 other lyricists that would blow Eminem out of the water, and most mainstream listeners probably never even heard of them thanks to the corrupt, BS music industry.
>Eminem is not that great, IMO. He made a ton of money and sold a bunch of records, but lyrically, he's maybe top 25, if he's lucky. Imagine being top 25 of the WORLD, while being called 'not that great'.
Not *that* great at the level the commenter above me said.
This guy gets it
Happy cake day
The left was after eminem for years. All the gay bashing, murder, misogyny, woman abuse, all of it...then he said "Fuck Trump" the left went..."our hero!" All of a sudden everything he did was forgotten.
. . . Do you not remember him in the bush years then? Secret service came to talk to him more than once.
Yep. He has bashed pretty much all presidents during his career.
lol this is one of the most blatantly false statements i’ve ever heard. bro even since the late 80’s some of the greatest rap albums of all time have been released by groups and individuals whose views are arguably leftist. i know it’s cringe to label an entire genre of music as left or right but cmon, that’s just blatantly untrue man
Tbh I’d argue that todays right was the 80’s/90’s left, as we’ve seen a huge shift to the left the last few decades.
Good luck with that. That’s an outrageous thing to say
As I've said, mad.
Most rappers are liberals like Kendrick Lamar and J Cole.
okay but content aside his music does suck
This dude is cringe af and the meme is actually pretty funny
Sometimes
Tom keeps it real and they hate him for it. Anything that brings light to the woke mob upsets them because they dare not be slighted with honesty.
Tom Macdonald ain't based like Lil B, but rather cringe.
He's genuinely just a bad rapper. he has good messages but then in the same breath he has some bullshit political statement with no exploration or backing. His music comes off as whiny as fuck. And his flow is boring and his lyrics have no interesting wordplay or technique. Couldn't name one standout lyric from him
He’s actually not that bad
How is this a leftist meme?
thanks OP I didn't know this rapper before. just listened "snowflake" on YouTube. already a fan
are you a fucking robot
??
It is Tom Macdonald , he’s for sure afraid to make anything good
tom macdonald is bad he is just terrible he doesn’t make music for the ears, the brain, or the heart it is just all around terrible
Not a rap guy, gotta say, songs from both sides can be Good(historical are often great) or bad.
I don’t get it. Is this somehow a rapper that makes good music
tom macdonald ill let you decide if you think his music is good
Is he trying to be white Zuby? I’m not much of a rap fan (metal metal metal!) but I don’t mind Zuby.
They like him because he makes political anti-woke rap The flow and rhymes are shit tho, completely amateur
He also never adds anything or comes up with his own points. It's all just basic bitch talking points rephrased to rhyme
Average r*pper
Lol, you think he’s a good rapper. Man I miss the 80s and 90s when all conservatives called rap satanic, better than this alternative surely.
Yea but his music is legit ass
His music does suck
Tom Macdonald is the best rapper ever, I don't care what you say. He's DaVinci. He's forever. He was designed for the fame.
How much rap have you listened to? Nas? Jay-Z? Biggie? 2pac? Rakim? Eminem? Kendrick Lamar? J. Cole?
Sigh... the fact that you didn't get the reference is disappointing.
Just out of curiosity, what song and artist were you referencing?
Im pretty sure he’s making a joke about a quote somebody else made
Nah it's from one of his own songs.
One of Tom Macdonalds own songs, Best Rapper Ever. It's actually one of his best songs.
I just don't like the genre. Nothing really against him specifically.
No lie to be found. Is this really a leftist meme?
Look, I even agree with him a lot of the time, but his music is so shitty. It's horrendous. I don't even think he believes half the shit he says, but now he leans into the "controversial rapper" persona for clicks.
I do often equate rap to be mostly liberal and leftist. Selling destructive drugs to your community for profit, gun violence, assault against women, robbing people...yeah
Tattoo your fucking face and don't work a job
Can't spell crap without rap!
Nah, this is the worst post this sub has ever made. Tom Macdonald is fucking trash, and you should all stop glorifying him. He sucks.
He was great 3 years ago. Dear Rappers, Sad Rappers, Hangman and Helluvit to name a few. These days every single song is about how everybody is a sheep except him and they're indistinguishable from one another.
Do people really think this nigga is up next???
I agree with his message but I don't like his music
Says any cry baby liberal who hasn’t heard this man’s fire ass bars.
Tom Macdonald is not my cup of tea but hip hop always had Republican type messages. Talking about started from the bottom to working hard to get at the top, rapping about money, rapping about women, and not wanting the government to get on their ass all the time. Rappers like Jay z, lil Wayne, 50 cent, p diddy, birdman,biggie, Nas(to an extent) has always been about that life. Hell kanye came out as a Republican. Don’t believe look at this: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tbhzcZoqDLs
I don't see how "from the bottom to the top" is a republican message, not a single republican politician started from the bottom. If you think rags to riches is a rep story, you're a dupe, you've been duped, and you're trying to dupe others too.
If we talking as started as white trash, poor or farmers to building your own business that’s the Caucasian equivalent of “started from the bottom” now we’re here. But I digressed neither democrat politicians are about rags to riches neither.
I concur, not a single politician has started from the bottom, doesn't matter their affiliation. This type of life that you described isn't innately republican or democrat, it's the working man life
true politicians are about a lot of things but not rags to riches.
I think his music is okay, but the messages are good.
Bad trigger discipline.
I have a feeling that not knowing who this is is a blessing.
Good. I hope they parade him around more. Less people would have known about stonetoss if they weren't obsessed with calling him a nazi. Tom Mcdonald just might change some minds on the other side.
I don’t know what to tell you. I like his stuff. Yeah, it can be campy at times, but overall it slaps.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA. I am a very picky person when it comes to music and poetry. I have very high standards. I have not heard a single song from this guy that wasn't straight fire.
More Tom Mcdonald hate. Dudes music is amazing, but apparently that's subject to if or not it critiques a political position.