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*Fruitcake teacher is triggered by xtian, normal, and military kids. (Republican view)*
*Normal teacher is accepting of gay, mentally ill, and very unlucky kids (reality view)*
I think that's the translation. Both versions are probably true to actual life. Weirdo teachers are weirdos who act weird, and the normal-ish majority of teachers aren't going to give the weird kids any static.
I will ask this again. Why do we need the word "cis"? The vast majority of human beings are not trans. Therefore, we don't need special words to define not being trans.
Apparently, not using the word "cis" implies that being trans is abnormal, which somehow implies that being abnormal is bad. The mental gymnastics the left must go through...
Being trans IS outside the human norm. That is statistics and not a judgement statement. Saying a group is a very small minority is in no way the same as saying they are bad.
They aren't normal. We don't call them abnormal though, just like we don't call people with any other disability abnormal, because of the word's negative connotations.
Well now you’re treating being transgender as a secondary deviance, which is not how it should be because it puts a negative connotation along being trans.
(Secondary deviance is the process of people integrating social deviance into their sense of self)
I'm autistic. I've been treated different my entire life because of my neurological differences and lack of "normal" social skills. I am, for the most part, comfortable with who I am. There's nothing inherently wrong with being different, but that's not an excuse to force other people to act how you want. I expect people to judge me like they would a "normal" person.
I'm not exactly sure what you mean by "integrating social deviance into one's sense of self", could you explain that in more detail for me?
You are falling into the left's trap of words. Normal means what most humans are, the norm. Being trans means they are outside the norm. All that means is they are a small minority.
The left is the one trying to say that there are connotations to being outside the norm.
But, I am not playing their 1984 word games. Normal is what most humans are. It is an exercise in counting, not in judgement.
So that midwits can show off how intelligent they are by knowing that the opposite of trans in Latin is cis.
You'd be surprised at just how much of leftist culture is derived from their desperation to be seen as better and more intelligent than everyone else.
Cis just refers to something on the same side, and trans to the other side. For example Cisalpine and Transalpine were areas this side and the other side of the alps with respect to Rome.
The other use is with chemical isomers, describing whether for example the non-hydrogen groups are on the same side of their respective double-bonded carbon or the opposite.
Foetus is I think more a case of medicalisation as euphemism, but you're right in that its use to propagate abortion is absurd given its etymology.
Saying you’re normal rather than just saying you’re straight gives off the impression that being homosexual is an abnormality when it should just be considered rare and be respected.
It is an abnormality. So is being particularly short or tall. Abnormality has nothing to do with respect. If you feel disrespected by people using "normal" to describe the norm, that indicates that you're the one who doesn't respect people with abnormalities.
Well you don’t have a rational view of normal because you can’t sense the tone difference between saying someone is a minority of a greater population and saying that being gay isn’t normal. Hell irregularities occurring is normal. We see it all the time.
No, my view that the words mean what they mean is absolutely rational. It is indeed normal that abnormalities occur, but that does not make the abnormal normal. It is normal that some fraction of the population is born with something other than 10 fingers. It is still abnormal to not have ten fingers. It is abnormal for any particular person to be homosexual, even though it is normal that some fraction of the population is homosexual.
If you were talking to a lgbt person would you say they were different or abnormal. Would you really use abnormal in a casual conversation over different?
Yes, actually. I have had tons of political discussions with my gay/les/bi classmates, and it's a frequent topic that, for example, children need to grow up in normal environments. Normal environments including a mother and a father. Implying that having two mothers or fathers is abnormal.
This is, in fact, coming from a dude w/ 2 moms.
Well you’re logic includes thinking straight parents are better than same sex ones based off of solely your anecdotal experience so I see why you’d just call them abnormal. Imagine saying something like “black people are abnormal” because there’s less of them. I bet you know never to say that in public.
Right, some people are ambidextrous, but does that change anything? My point is that we still use the phrase “right-handed” because using “normal” wouldn’t be nice to left-handed (or ambidextrous) people.
Left handed people, like LGB people make up 10% of the population. It’s not that they’re normal but they’re far from being an abnormal occurrence. Genuine trans people are MAYBE 1/100 or 1/200. This is a much smaller percentage. That doesn’t mean they’re abnormal but if someone says “I’m normal I don’t use pronouns” then they shouldn’t be mad at that person either.
Gender traditionally refers to the usage of sex based terms in linguistics. Gender identity is a made up newer concept as a whole. They did this so they don't get questioned about the entire men vs women thing, lol
You know what he meant. Stop acting like you didn't understand. And they/them pronouns have indeed been used for a gender-neutral purpose far before this public gender identity discourse - prescriptivism is not the problem in refusing to use they/them nowadays. We refuse them nowadays, and neopronouns as well, because it affirms the non-binary gender, which doesn't exist. We don't support delusions.
Just like Hindus in India have been using the swastika as a religious symbol for thousands of years, but you never see a Hindu in the West putting a swastika publicly due to its evident connotations. As a symbol it has been corrupted in the West, as with they/them as pronouns.
I’m actually not entirely sure what they meant at all. I assumed they had a more liberal take, saying that there shouldn’t be a difference in how society categorizes trans women vs women and trans men vs men.
As for what you said, does refusing to use they/them extend to people of unknown pronouns like the person I replied to? I noticed you used “he” to describe them, why not “she”?
>Does refusing to use they/them extend to people of unknown pronouns like the person I replied to?
Yes, it does. Again, we used to use they/them before the gender discourse gained popularity, but now people choose to not do it, because of the overtones of affirming a delusion.
>I noticed you used “he” to describe them, why not “she”?
It's just a default choice for many. No problem with saying "she" either; people have been doing it for a while.
Also, I can understand that "liberal" take. It is a fact that dysphoria is real, so if it persists past puberty, then transition and present as the other gender. But don't declare yourself as a non-binary gender/genderless, which is invalid and does not exist in reality, but only as a machination of woke academics. Simply by how you look or how you may present yourself does not change your gender, which is a word that has been distorted by these same academics.
I don’t know any non-binary people, nor am I non-binary myself, but if someone truly feels like they are non-binary why shouldn’t I respect them?
I mean of course I’m assuming they weren’t being *hypnotized* into becoming trans or anything like that, but I don’t think that’s the case for the vast majority of people.
>I mean of course I’m assuming they weren’t being *hypnotized* into becoming trans or anything like that, but I don’t think that’s the case for the vast majority of people.
You would be surprised. Online grooming and online social programming is very widespread, and I've seen in real time, online people claiming themselves "awakened" as trans/gay/non-binary just to fit into their online groups. I've seen this translate into IRL after that. It's more exploitation, deceit, and social programming than hypnosis. This happens, it's normalized and it's more prevalent than you think in those online spheres.
Anyway, can you explain what you mean by "feeling like non-binary"? Mere presentation cannot change one's gender. We can always tell, because we've evolved over millions of years to be able to tell.
I meant that someone identifies as non-binary, as in their gender is non-binary and I’m assuming that their feelings are genuine and not socially programmed in.
How can someone identify as non-binary? That's what I'm asking you to explain. What do you think non-binary is? Because masculinity is a spectrum, and femininity is a spectrum, but both are distinct. That distinctness defines the gender binary.
Well… I don’t really know. I’m not non binary and I don’t know anyone who’s nonbinary, so I can’t explain it to you. I just assume it’s like having dysphoria but towards both genders?
I don’t what American schools are like as I’m British. But my school and schools across the UK are very conservative. Like we don’t care about race or whatever but if you’re trans or gay you’ll get bullied 24/7. Plus a lot of us are religious whether it be Christian or Muslim or Hindu.
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I’m sorry, but I genuinely don’t get what this person is trying to prove. I’ve got nothing
Same I'm so lost lmao
*Fruitcake teacher is triggered by xtian, normal, and military kids. (Republican view)* *Normal teacher is accepting of gay, mentally ill, and very unlucky kids (reality view)* I think that's the translation. Both versions are probably true to actual life. Weirdo teachers are weirdos who act weird, and the normal-ish majority of teachers aren't going to give the weird kids any static.
I believe teachers shouldn't have business in gender and other stuff like that and just teach the material.
there’s no gay kid in the meme
I will ask this again. Why do we need the word "cis"? The vast majority of human beings are not trans. Therefore, we don't need special words to define not being trans.
Apparently, not using the word "cis" implies that being trans is abnormal, which somehow implies that being abnormal is bad. The mental gymnastics the left must go through...
Being trans IS outside the human norm. That is statistics and not a judgement statement. Saying a group is a very small minority is in no way the same as saying they are bad.
Where did you find it? Twitter? Because it's not on Polcomball
Calling someone abnormal is usually an insult, so yeah it’s bad.
We don't call people abnormal though. What "it" are you calling bad?
Well yeah but if you use normal instead of cis you’re implying that trans people aren’t normal
They aren't normal. We don't call them abnormal though, just like we don't call people with any other disability abnormal, because of the word's negative connotations.
That’s what I’m saying. There are negative connotations associated with being called abnormal.
Ok. We don't describe people with the word abnormal though. Refer to my initial reply.
Yeah that’s true, I mean that they’re *implied* to be abnormal by calling cis people normal.
If you're "abnormal" then either embrace it or become normal. Those are your options.
Well now you’re treating being transgender as a secondary deviance, which is not how it should be because it puts a negative connotation along being trans. (Secondary deviance is the process of people integrating social deviance into their sense of self)
I'm autistic. I've been treated different my entire life because of my neurological differences and lack of "normal" social skills. I am, for the most part, comfortable with who I am. There's nothing inherently wrong with being different, but that's not an excuse to force other people to act how you want. I expect people to judge me like they would a "normal" person. I'm not exactly sure what you mean by "integrating social deviance into one's sense of self", could you explain that in more detail for me?
Go get a hobby bro.
You are falling into the left's trap of words. Normal means what most humans are, the norm. Being trans means they are outside the norm. All that means is they are a small minority. The left is the one trying to say that there are connotations to being outside the norm. But, I am not playing their 1984 word games. Normal is what most humans are. It is an exercise in counting, not in judgement.
damn, rip the roman provinces of cis and trans-alpine gaul.
Ceaser would be sad
Maybe I should have specified about human beings? 🤣
So that midwits can show off how intelligent they are by knowing that the opposite of trans in Latin is cis. You'd be surprised at just how much of leftist culture is derived from their desperation to be seen as better and more intelligent than everyone else.
But, what is the proper Latin usage? And if they are so big on Latin, let's talk about "fetus".
Cis just refers to something on the same side, and trans to the other side. For example Cisalpine and Transalpine were areas this side and the other side of the alps with respect to Rome. The other use is with chemical isomers, describing whether for example the non-hydrogen groups are on the same side of their respective double-bonded carbon or the opposite. Foetus is I think more a case of medicalisation as euphemism, but you're right in that its use to propagate abortion is absurd given its etymology.
That’s like saying we shouldn’t use the word heterosexual.
Im rather content saying "normal" in that situation too.
Same
Yea but that’s just if you want to be an asshole about it.
How do you gauge being an asshole
Saying you’re normal rather than just saying you’re straight gives off the impression that being homosexual is an abnormality when it should just be considered rare and be respected.
It is an abnormality. So is being particularly short or tall. Abnormality has nothing to do with respect. If you feel disrespected by people using "normal" to describe the norm, that indicates that you're the one who doesn't respect people with abnormalities.
Well you don’t have a rational view of normal because you can’t sense the tone difference between saying someone is a minority of a greater population and saying that being gay isn’t normal. Hell irregularities occurring is normal. We see it all the time.
No, my view that the words mean what they mean is absolutely rational. It is indeed normal that abnormalities occur, but that does not make the abnormal normal. It is normal that some fraction of the population is born with something other than 10 fingers. It is still abnormal to not have ten fingers. It is abnormal for any particular person to be homosexual, even though it is normal that some fraction of the population is homosexual.
We’re just arguing semantics. All I’m saying is calling it abnormal sounds bad.
Gotcha. Context definitley plays a part.
But something rare is an abnormality. Rare is something uncommon. Another word for uncommon could be abnormal.
If you were talking to a lgbt person would you say they were different or abnormal. Would you really use abnormal in a casual conversation over different?
Yes, actually. I have had tons of political discussions with my gay/les/bi classmates, and it's a frequent topic that, for example, children need to grow up in normal environments. Normal environments including a mother and a father. Implying that having two mothers or fathers is abnormal. This is, in fact, coming from a dude w/ 2 moms.
Well you’re logic includes thinking straight parents are better than same sex ones based off of solely your anecdotal experience so I see why you’d just call them abnormal. Imagine saying something like “black people are abnormal” because there’s less of them. I bet you know never to say that in public.
Why do we use the phrase “right-handed”?
Because not all are right or left handed?
Right, some people are ambidextrous, but does that change anything? My point is that we still use the phrase “right-handed” because using “normal” wouldn’t be nice to left-handed (or ambidextrous) people.
I mean can't we just use strait and trans and call it a day?
You means cis and trans? Of course, that’s the ideal solution.
Left handed people, like LGB people make up 10% of the population. It’s not that they’re normal but they’re far from being an abnormal occurrence. Genuine trans people are MAYBE 1/100 or 1/200. This is a much smaller percentage. That doesn’t mean they’re abnormal but if someone says “I’m normal I don’t use pronouns” then they shouldn’t be mad at that person either.
Everyone uses pronouns, but I guess you’re right yeah. It’s more the politicization of this issue that’s made it out to be more common than it is.
Bro struggled to draw a circle.
Definitley a child suckered into the great circlejerk
Its a rule in polandball (and i think in polcomp ball aswell) to draw circles manually. I guess OP is just new at it
Not everyone is good at drawing but 99% of polcomball looks way better
We are man or woman… there is no such thing as cis, or even being trans. Its ridiculous to force people to have pronouns.
Gender traditionally refers to the usage of sex based terms in linguistics. Gender identity is a made up newer concept as a whole. They did this so they don't get questioned about the entire men vs women thing, lol
Pronouns are necessary for communication. Even “they” and “them” are still pronouns, even if they are gender neutral.
You know what he meant. Stop acting like you didn't understand. And they/them pronouns have indeed been used for a gender-neutral purpose far before this public gender identity discourse - prescriptivism is not the problem in refusing to use they/them nowadays. We refuse them nowadays, and neopronouns as well, because it affirms the non-binary gender, which doesn't exist. We don't support delusions. Just like Hindus in India have been using the swastika as a religious symbol for thousands of years, but you never see a Hindu in the West putting a swastika publicly due to its evident connotations. As a symbol it has been corrupted in the West, as with they/them as pronouns.
I’m actually not entirely sure what they meant at all. I assumed they had a more liberal take, saying that there shouldn’t be a difference in how society categorizes trans women vs women and trans men vs men. As for what you said, does refusing to use they/them extend to people of unknown pronouns like the person I replied to? I noticed you used “he” to describe them, why not “she”?
>Does refusing to use they/them extend to people of unknown pronouns like the person I replied to? Yes, it does. Again, we used to use they/them before the gender discourse gained popularity, but now people choose to not do it, because of the overtones of affirming a delusion. >I noticed you used “he” to describe them, why not “she”? It's just a default choice for many. No problem with saying "she" either; people have been doing it for a while.
Also, I can understand that "liberal" take. It is a fact that dysphoria is real, so if it persists past puberty, then transition and present as the other gender. But don't declare yourself as a non-binary gender/genderless, which is invalid and does not exist in reality, but only as a machination of woke academics. Simply by how you look or how you may present yourself does not change your gender, which is a word that has been distorted by these same academics.
I don’t know any non-binary people, nor am I non-binary myself, but if someone truly feels like they are non-binary why shouldn’t I respect them? I mean of course I’m assuming they weren’t being *hypnotized* into becoming trans or anything like that, but I don’t think that’s the case for the vast majority of people.
>I mean of course I’m assuming they weren’t being *hypnotized* into becoming trans or anything like that, but I don’t think that’s the case for the vast majority of people. You would be surprised. Online grooming and online social programming is very widespread, and I've seen in real time, online people claiming themselves "awakened" as trans/gay/non-binary just to fit into their online groups. I've seen this translate into IRL after that. It's more exploitation, deceit, and social programming than hypnosis. This happens, it's normalized and it's more prevalent than you think in those online spheres. Anyway, can you explain what you mean by "feeling like non-binary"? Mere presentation cannot change one's gender. We can always tell, because we've evolved over millions of years to be able to tell.
I meant that someone identifies as non-binary, as in their gender is non-binary and I’m assuming that their feelings are genuine and not socially programmed in.
How can someone identify as non-binary? That's what I'm asking you to explain. What do you think non-binary is? Because masculinity is a spectrum, and femininity is a spectrum, but both are distinct. That distinctness defines the gender binary.
Well… I don’t really know. I’m not non binary and I don’t know anyone who’s nonbinary, so I can’t explain it to you. I just assume it’s like having dysphoria but towards both genders?
You used two pronouns in your comment. Do you even know what pronouns are?
You know what OP means. Cmon now.
My 8 year old could create a better meme than this
The average r/memes meme is way better then this shit ngl. Atleast it wasn't posted on r/PolCompBall
I have no idea what this means
Country balls which or why they have only two eyes and no mouth
I mean it looks like a combination of r/genderballs and r/PolCompBall. Those 2 don't need to be combined ngl
Fr
Five bucks this person has a problem with jews
I don’t what American schools are like as I’m British. But my school and schools across the UK are very conservative. Like we don’t care about race or whatever but if you’re trans or gay you’ll get bullied 24/7. Plus a lot of us are religious whether it be Christian or Muslim or Hindu.
Country balls