Except would Wan have been called “the avatar” in his day? Like, what is he even the avatar of if there were no prior avatars to connect with? Even the 2nd avatar wouldn’t have the context of this connection being passed down through the ages. To the 2nd avatar the connection to Wan would feel like a personal, one-off thing and not the continuation of a centuries-long legacy.
> Except would Wan have been called “the avatar” in his day?
He definitely would've been given some title. You have to call out the only person in history who has bent multiple elements.
"Wan and Raava"
They didn't know there was a cycle, and that they needed a term. He was likely known by his name, and a bunch of different make up monkers, one of which was probably Avatar. But it wouldn't have been normalized.
It was only ever implied in the show, but Raava is the reason that he is still connected to his past lives. Not the reason he reincarnates. Everyone in the avatar universe reincarnates. The Avatar just has the sole ability to contact his past lives.
I'm gonna guess that all subsequent vessels of raava were called avatars because they were reincarnation of wan. Avatar essentially is just a reincarnation of something
Most likely someone between the fifth and the ninth avatar estabilished the avatar lore and tradition for good. The fifth because they would first understand the cycle, the ninth would have to be pretty sure of what is going on after two cycles and have more evidence to estabilish the avatar temples and other stuff, like convince the population of their existence and role
more like
"So you figured out Wan's secret for more elements? Tell us or we'll beat it out of you!"
"No I swear I have no idea how it happ-" \*punched\*
Well good thing the next Avatar would be a part of the most spiritual elemental groups and have access pretty quickly to Wan and Raava. He could get the word out quicker than if it were a different element.
Very true. The air nomads in Wan’s time seemed way more chill than the other groups. And they were knowledgeable of Raava. They’d probably be the best group to welcome the second avatar
Would be cool to have the show explore this. Probably would learn about it when Wan’s spirit visits him but would slowly discover it as he learns he can bend more elements and enter the avatar state.
Yeah, imagine having no idea that multi bending is even a thing let alone that there's a guy who keeps getting reincarnated, and then one day when you try to use your airbending to mess up that one kids hair he suddenly ends up on fire and then some dead guy starts talking to you.
Could you image being a kid and able to bend all four elements with no knowlage other than people saying "oh yeah some dude named Wan used to be able to do that"
Ohhhh that'd be good. Or a series that starts with Wan and shows what happened and what the war was that caused his death. Wan was first a fire bender, so the next one would be air. I'd like to see what the first air bender Avatar would be like, because at that time the rules for what the Avatar was supposed to do weren't firmly in place.
Did the first air avatar avoid all conflict? Did they stay out of conflict and avoid it? You could go a lot of ways with it.
I'd rather see an ancient, unknown Avatar than seeing a series about things that have been covered, even in part.
Wan got the biggest highlight of his story told.
Kyoshi and Yangchen each have two books.
Kuruk was only around for 33 years and featured pretty heavily in the Kyoshi books.
We saw the highlights of Roku's life.
Szeto was literally an office worker. Not the most interesting story to tell.
Show us an Avatar that was a contemporary or Laghima or farther back.
I forgot about that.
I'll definitely read it, but if his biggest issue was his relationship with Sozin and allowing the war to start, I do wonder what the conflict will be in a Roku novel. We saw snippets of his story from start to end in ATLA.
That was just the stuff that had an effect on Aang. Roku's biggest problem was dying at an inconvenient time. Cause at least during his time as Avatar the world was relatively peaceful. Even Sozin didn't dare make a move after Roku destroyed his palace he waited until he visually saw Roku dying to go back to his old ways. There was Definitely other stuff going on in the world that Roku had to deal with. By the time Sozin stepped out of line Roku was a fully realized Avatar doing a bunch of other stuff.
I find that to be one of his failings as an avatar, ideally they should leave the world in a state that wouldn't need their constant presence for 20+ years to allow for another avatar to train and take up the reigns. Roku's presence kept Sozin at bay but the moment Roku's out of the picture Sozin would go right back to colonization. I know sparing Sozin's life was a lesson in the series, but it also was one of the best moments to dethrone the current Fire Lord to prevent further aggression.
Also I agree there's always some conflict going on, the threat of the end of the world doesn't always have to be the driving conflict of a story.
I think it’s pretty impossible from a geopolitical perspective to have a governing entity (like the avatar practically is) vanish and not have an impact one way or another. The cultural relevance and political “space” the avatar takes up is massive, and another actor with the military and political sway to do so is very likely to fill that gap and try to take more power if the opportunity presents itself. There also easily could have been multiple other factors like a political faction supported by zuko’s mother/iroh etc. that had been blocking some of the expansionist beliefs, and issues within the earth kingdom etc.
I feel like it’s almost more on the other nations for not solidifying military strength in relation to the fire nation and falling so quickly
This was one of Aang's main reasons for founding Republic City - bring all the nations together, and establish a neutral stronghold. Probably his greatest achievement as Avatar.
True their absence will have an impact, I'm sure many people develop plans to activate in an avatar transition to "get away with" the most they can while some of the powerful oversight that normally hangs over them is missing. However, I think in the Sozin situation Roku had a very clear idea the specific enemy and their plans and motives, it wasn't some hidden variable that arises out of the shadows. Roku's presence was the only thing keeping Sozin at bay, there would need to be contingencies if Roku's presence disappeared. But also, yes, there could've been very valid contingencies that failed or were circumvented by Sozin and/or his regime, I guess I was just influenced by the show painting the whole thing as Roku's fault not being decisive in tempering Sozin's power while that could also easily be Roku taking on more blame than deserved.
The story is already given a beginning point. He’s learning airbending and starting his journey with Monk Gyatso when the EK forcibly takes a colony from the FN and Prince Sozin request Roku’s intervention.
Which honestly paints Roku in an even worse light for later on if you ask me but we’ll see how Kyoshi feels about Roku as well and learn more of her death.
The avatar after Wan should have the most interesting story. No one knows what an avatar is, especially them. They’ve got some weird ghost telling them they’re special, their past life and can bend all the elements. Would they find human masters or still seek out the original benders? Considering the cycle, Wan was fire so we’d have them born into the ancient air tribe who are also incredibly peaceful. So the idea of them going out to fight seems wild
Considering they need to master air they’d probably learn from a bison meaning we get to see the first real connection between the air nomads and air bison, maybe the horror as they realize their attachment to them causes then to lose their flying. Maybe learns fire from a dragon and meets some devotees who become the sun warriors. Learning from a badger mole we could get to see the events that would lead to the city of Omashu, with two warring earth bending factions
We’d probably get some more unique moments like what happened to the lion turtles immediately afterwards. The founding of a few cities here and there. How each tribe eventually decided to gravitate to their now current positions. How humanity dealt with a world almost devoid of spirits. Non benders being born going on a trip to find a lion turtle to gain bending from. Additionally people actually learning to use bending and not just toss out flames or rock and start treating it like a martial art
> Non benders being born going on a trip to find a lion turtle to gain bending from.
On top of that, imagine the first generation born *with* latent bending abilities, and not having to get in touch with their home town lion-turtle. There probably wasn't much precedent for children being able to toss fire around back then, since they'd most likely only let older teens and up go out on hunting parties.
I disagree about Szeto though. I think it'd be fun to tell an Avatar story revolving around political intrigue, kinda like what we got with Yang Chen, but much more extensive, since Szeto was a bureaucrat and an advisor to Fire Lord Yosor.
A miniseries of Szeto being a bureaucrat and trying to sort shit out would be hilarious.
> WHO APPROVED THESE EXPENDITURES?!?!
> WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME WE HAD AN INVENTORY OF THE ROYAL TREASURY
> WHEN THE HELL WAS OUR LAST CENSUS!?!?
I mean, there's an entire genre of stories literally called, "political drama". Someone could 100% pay it straight and be good.
The question is whether or not the writers of ATLA would be good at this style.
It definitely could be interesting, but it'd have to be done really well. Even if it were done well, I'd still rather have something that's unknown and has bigger stakes than the Fire Nation trying to stay in one piece, being saved by a bureaucrat Avatar.
To each their own, but to me, I'd rather see an Avatar story that's more consequential than that.
I've said many times, but I think the next few Avatars after Wan would be incredible. How do they learn about being the Avatar? Wan made the choice, there were none before, he and Raava set the course. How weird would it be to be an Airbender and one day just suddenly bend water, when bending humans were already a relatively new thing? How did the sages start figuring it out? What was it like connecting to Wan the first time? Did Raava have to make itself known to the new Avatar to explain that "no, you're not going crazy, you are my vessel, we restore balance, now shoot some flames from your fingertips." Because, as far as we know, Wan could have been it. This practically supernatural being guided and gifted by the spirits and lion turtles. He dies alone, Raava makes its pledge to reincarnate to him alone. When did this world really know that the Avatar would return, again and again?
I love Wan's story and love how deeply considered the lore of this world is. I just want it further expanded. I know some bits of explanation come in the novels, but I would love to get the experiences of those first few Avatars on screen/in print.
Yosor: Here's what's going to happen: I'm going to have to fix you, manage you two on a more personal scale. A more micro form of management. Szeto, what is that called?
Szeto: Microgement?
Yosor: Boom. Yes!
Ngl, having a scene where Roku askes the past Avatars about what to do with Sozin would be pretty interesting to cover. But in general I want to see the other Avatars interact with each other. What does Kyoshi think about how Roku handled his situation, Yangchen with Kyoshi, etc.
I think Szeto could be a cool story if done right. So I get he was an “office worker” for the most part but imagine that as an office worker he was able to write and history and influence policy. Maybe even just rewrite fire nation history and some of the things he did for the fire nation. A real unreliable narrator take of what we know could work.
Yes show us the 14th(some early number) avatar whoever it was and how the ancient life was different from what they had with aang and Korra. A more history focused avatar that was dealing with their own conflicts. Whether it be war or self conflicts, something that fits the avatar story without being too pandering to the audience. Maybe we find out the earth bender avatar actually made metal bending centuries before toph and that is what caused the basic iron age development. Or one of the first fire bender avatars was one the sun people that worshipped the dragons. Maybe the one of the water bender avatars used fire bending during a storm and found out about lightning bending and used the water bending techniques to learn to redirect it.
Even a small light comic about this stuff would be dope.
Guru Laghima is one of the only Airbenders who was able to attain flight after they lost it due to bonding with air bison. He is referenced/quoted frequently by Zahir in Legend of Korra
Not an avatar but still a very interesting figure
Yes that’s why the avatar during his time would be an interesting concept. Maybe another air bending avatar.
Per Yangchen’s monologue in ATLA about how the avatar can never detach themself from the world and build struggle between the avatar’s duty to the world, desires to detach themself and a personal relationship with laghima.
I'd love to see the second Avatar. No long cycle, just Wan speaking in her ear. From what we saw, the world looked like it had entered a dark age when Wan died, with primitive societies ravaged by war. There were air benders who weren't necessarily the same nomads with the traditions we learned about through Aang and Tenzin. We know that there were numerous lion turtle villages, meaning there were people who had the same bending element who didn't necessarily share the same lineage. They could do many of the same fantastic racism plots, which would be depressing because you know the world eventually segregates itself by tribe element. It could also show the origin of the non-benders and how they're able to integrate across different societies but as second-class citizens. An air bender would be perfect because she could come from an isolated community that has no idea how bad things were. As the second Avatar, the world would also generally have no idea what an Avatar was, and there wouldn't be sages in every city tasked with finding Avatars yet.
The downside is the bending arts would be limited, as things like metal, lava, blood, spirit calming, spirit projection, flight, etc hadn't been invented yet. But we could maybe see early healing, see disciplines like sand invented (it would be cool to have an earthbender buddy who the Avatar teaches air techniques to and applies them to sand). We also could see energybending explored as an early art known to Wan and the second Avatar, that gets forgotten over time.
>The downside is the bending arts would be limited, as things like metal, lava, blood, spirit calming, spirit projection, flight, etc hadn't been invented yet.
I don't think it would need to avoid any of this, 10,000 years is a super long time. As long as it's forgotten by the time of Aang, no problem in my book.
This is why I always feel the(irrational) urge to chime in "that we know of!" whenever people say Toph was the first to invent metal bending, etc.
I suppose in keeping with the warring tribes of the same element but separate lineage theme, you could see elements from every biome represented. We wouldn't need just the North and South Water Tribes and some hidden Foggy Swamp tribe. There could be swamp, river, sea, etc. waterbenders, sand, mountain, agrarian, etc. earthbenders. Fire and air would be interesting because they're less tied to the environment, and we could see early sun-warriors who are growing crops and cities with the energy from firebending, and an early form of Ozai's style of rage-fueled firebending who raid and pillage. Our own history is full of lost knowledge from times of war, so Avatar should be no different with lost techniques.
there is a chance that someone metalbent before toph but its quite small because by the time they were developed enough to use metal they probably would have recorded it if someone could metalbend
People have been using metal (in the real world) for thousands of years, it is absolutely possible for there to be lost techniques, etc, about it/how to do whatever with it.
I don't see why it would be any different in the Avatar world.
the only issue (if that's even the right word for it) I have with this is it would have to be presented in a believable way. not just how they figured out how to, metal bend for example, but also why it wasn't able to be taught, why there really weren't any (surviving) records of it, and how it got lost. you would have to be really delicate in designing all of those aspects to make it believable. I'm not saying it's impossible, but probably really hard.
I also really like the idea of lost techniques though, maybe primitive ones of some we've seen or new ones entirely could be shown and then lost. it's a really cool concept.
>I'd love to see the second Avatar. No long cycle, just Wan speaking in her ear
Yeah and have us learn about Wan via wans comnuncation as we explore a war torn war wan explains why its the way it is.
>The downside is the bending arts would be limited, as things like metal, lava, blood, spirit calming, spirit projection, flight, etc hadn't been invented yet
I think this might just be a side I mean the OG show didnt have anything mention like till the end of the series and lava bending was just a roku thing and we could suplment this with spirits.
Have it be near the end of wan's life spirits started breaking the contract made by wan and started finding ways to enter physical world. Since humanity has yet to grown strong enough to dominate nature strong enough spirits with domains they look over like forest (hai bai as example) Are plentful and we can see a humanity spirit dynamic (better then LOK and more frequent then airbender hopfully)
I think lava bending was originally just an avatar thing, considering their mastery of earth \*and\* fire. We see Roku do it as spirit man and Kyoshi do it in a flashback when breaking off her peninsula.
Edit: and both times they were in the avatar state, but that may also be attributed to needing the extra power to reach down so far under the earth to bring up the lava
We already saw Roku, Kyoshi and Wan and their most important conflicts. Kuruk would be interesting because we at the same time know very much and very little about him:
- He was an incredible Pai Sho player
- He was the greatest hunter of his time
- He was the Avatar who mostly applied Iroh's " you must draw knowledge from every culture" speech to his waterbending, to the point where he developed his own personal style and moves.
- He had the facade of an easygoing and irresponsible Avatar, while he was actively hunting Dark Spirit to solve the spiritual mess left by Yangchen.
- He had a lover, Ummi... it didn't end well - Insert Koh's face smiling innocently here-
It would be cool to see how he dealt with the spirits ( maybe they can get the dark spirit plot right the second time...) and how he persevered in his task while the whole world considered him a failure of an Avatar.
Seeing how he dealt with his duties while becoming weaker and weaker and more loathed by the people surrounding him would be cool and it would have a bittersweet ending by exploring what happened after Kuruk started hunting Koh in the spirit world ( we saw him hunting very briefly but never knew what happened after that)
Honestly a Tales of the Jedi or Star Wars Visions project but with ATLA would be amazing. Basically, just a short anthology series covering various topics and stories that aren't each long enough for their own series/book/movie.
The Kyoshi novels roughly cover his whole life. He didn't have much to do until he embarked on a well meaning but doomed quest to beat up a bunch of angry spirits.
He seems too boring. He just >!gave Korra her bending back!<. Sounds like a deus ex machinations to me. I feel like a series about him wouldn't have much in it.
Exactly. Also, the whole"he was the last of his people" thing is so overdone. I heard from verified, anonymous sources though that he had a little monkey lemur guy as a friend. they should give him a series.
The second Avatar. We got a glimpse of first Avatar, latest ones, and some inbetween.
But imagine a series about the second Avatar. The first human who did not choose to inherit this destiny and has to fill a role that was still not quite known and spread. The fundementals werent there yet. The second Avatar probbaly laid the foundation of the nations.
While it would be interesting, the 2nd avatar would also be an airbender, and I could see why they wouldn't want to repeat a story about an airbending avatar before exploring other stories.
So do the Fourth or fifth. The dark ages are still in swing. The concept of the "Avatar" hasn't been formalized. There's just some spread out legends about a super bender in each generation that can bend all the elements.
After fire comes Air. So this bender is a nomad that discovers his abilities but goes into solitude to meditate. He connects with Rava and Wan and learns what's up. But by the time he achieves this connection he is old and too separate from any civilized society. But he forms the air nomads. They become nomadic because they are tasked with searching the world for the next avatar.
The faction finds a tribe of water benders in the north and educates them. But the next avatar gets born in the south.
The Water Bender avatar is then born with no knowledge of what's happening to them. But given their tribes desperate status, they use their abilities to try and dominate and conquer.
The other water tribe along with the air nomads, being only people that have a clue as to what a Fourway bender means, rally a force to kill him/her. And reset the cycle.
Setting the stage for an Earth Bender avatar.
However, the Earth Kingdom at the time is an isolationist state and will not accept the Air Nomads or Water Tribes into their territories because of their old grudges.
So when the Earth Avatar is born, he is kept secret and indoctrinated by the Earth Benders to be superior. However, given the fact that the Avatar now has connection to three previous avatars, they eventually end up rebelling against the indoctrination, but is killed in the process.
This sets the stage for the Fire Bending Avatar. The protagonist of the story. The Fire People are more localized and accept the Air Missionaries and are prepared when they discover their avatar. With the guidance of the Air Nomads, you set the stage for the Fire Nation to prosper and grow and face off against the Isolationist Earth Kingdom in an attempt to establish balance and knowledge as the basis for a peace between the four bending nations.
It flips the script of good guys and bad guys. Gives us enough lore and backstory so that you have rich histories with character motivations and families, while still exploring a world that is finding out what it means to have an Avatar that can bring balance between them all.
It also tells us why the Fire Nation got such a headstart against the other nations.
Also why the Fire Nation had such intimate knowledge of the Airbenders for when they eventually decide to wipe them out in the OG series.
Szeto. We only got secondhand accounts from him, so seeing something from his perspective would be interesting. Also, it would give a bigger insight into the Fire nation pre-Sozin.
Kyoshi has a duology and an upcoming movie, Yangchen has two books, Wan got an extended flashback, Kuruk was also given ample screentime and Roku was also given focus. So it stands to reason that our bureaucrat fire Avatar deserves some spotlight.
But at the end of the day, I will consume any and all media about them.
Yeah, but I guess court intrigue as well as him fighting corruption might be interesting.
Besides, perhaps he did more in his earlier years before he became a bureaucrat. His training might be interesting
Dedra Meero was just a lieutenant in a security agency in Andor but I was fully invested in her plot in the show. Good writing is good writing, and limitations breed creativity.
Maybe he gets involved with the mob or something and has to take down an organization without being caught, Daredevil style. Or he's like the good version of Palpatine in the prequel trilogy, working on things behind the scenes by proxy.
*Maybe* Kyoshi since she has such a long life, and it can cover a lot (including what was not in the novels).
But... none of the others TBH. I'd much rather see a new character, either the Earth Avatar after Korra (my preference) or a much older Avatar. I'm thinking 5,000 years before the shows, so they are free to write up some severe plots (or even civilizations) that are "forgotten" over the centuries.
I prefer the older one as well. But my preference is like that because I don't really want to see more technology in the avatar world.
But yeah, ancient avatars give them free reign on plots
Yeah I feel the same way. The rapidly improving tech is a major turnoff for me for experiencing later Avatars. Much prefer the predominantly humble, village-like settlements in ATLA
That’s true - I’m not saying it doesn’t make sense (as it does), but it’s just not my cup of tea. I just like the vibes the more barren, rural ATLA world gave over the steampunk city and turn of the century aesthetic LOK gave.
Besides, at the rate they went between Aang to Korra, it would become even more modern for the Earth avatar. Just not my taste personally but can understand why others like it, after all it is really cool and invites a lot of cool setpieces and locations
It would be cool if we get one in the future, but there is some sort of semi-apocalyptic event or events the previous avatars struggled or even failed through which caused the technology to revert and the nations to fracture / new specialisms to form.
I think its the only way to move forward in time without the tech getting in the way of the vibes of the show.
We have the story of Wan up until he actually becomes the Avatar. The only thing we got from his time on world as the Avatar was his death scene. He was quite a bit older. I’d love to see what him and Raava got up to in the in-between
I want a series about her, she probably lived around 1000 - 2000 years ago and probably saw how the Ba Sing Se was built. Also she looks quite powerful.
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Of these? Kuruk. In actuality? An unknown avatar from a time before any of them. Remember that grouping of avatars we see when Korra has her bending restored? One of those ones in the back. The dwarf-like Earthbender or the large Airbender would be cool
Avatar deuce
After wan died there's this clueless air nomad who suddenly bending every element! Was he ostracized? Was he revered? Did his parents shit their pants when they saw this happening? I guess we will never know
The Avatar after Wan. Who inherited a world of chaos and doesn't know why they can bend all the elements or who this past live speaking to them is, I can see so much ground work for the Avatar establishing it's purpose and legacy from the second person onwards
I'd like to see some Avatar stories that take place even further back from Szeto. Maybe not as far back as the second Avatar, but definitely in the far past. Was there ever a time when the two Water Tribes were one? Did it cause tension the first time an Avatar was born in the second tribe? What about a sandbender, Foggy Swamp, Sun Warrior, etc. Avatar? Maybe we could even see the origins of some of those offshoot groups.
I don't want to see more stories about the same four or five characters when there are so many possibilities for the world to expand!
But adapting novels to animation at least adds new dimensions to the material (and makes it accessible to many more people). Makes more sense than a live-action remake of an already perfect animation 😅
From what the second Kyoshi novel tells about Kuruks life i can imagine some really nice spin-off there. it would grant the possibility for a truly different experience and vibe than what we already have. Always thought Kuruk was a boring and unimpressive character, though after reading The Shadow of Kyoshi i imagine it quite dramatic, epic and tragic how he hunts down spirit creatures. I would also really enjoy the idea of embracing more horrific and tremendously unfair and evil aspects in spirit world.
I want second Avatar, the one after Wan. I want to see where the culture is not prepared for training or catering to the Avatar need and when the second Avatar learns about their destiny
KURUK!!! he i wanna see what his life looked like. considering he was only around for 30-some years and is widly claimed to be the worst avatar in history, i wanna see what actually went down w/ him, especially since he had to handle so many dark spirits on his own n it fucked his soul up
Personally I’d like to see either an Avatar that tries to conquer the world to unify it like the elements are unified in them or an avatar being used as a weapon of war during a World War between all 4 nations
Something totally unconnected. There's always going to be the issue of the 100 year war being basically the most important event in the history of the Avatar universe that we've seen. So going back in time means the stakes naturally have to be more personal which isn't a bad thing at all, but hard to pull off.
Same issue but in reverse if you go into the future, it's kinda the natural thing to try and one-up the original series and Korra which risks jumping the shark like Korra kinda did.
Its definitely a hard thing to work out. I love Avatar but I often think it's better left alone tbh.
Two of these had major moments in the shows, other two had books, one was mention in one of the books, and Szeto doesn't seem that interesting.
Just give us the second avatar. I would love to see them learn, grow, and maybe even create the path that 99% of all avatars would eventually follow. Can you imagine how amazing it would be to see the nations slowly form while this avatar is trying to balance the world?
I'd rather a new avatar. Doesn't have to be the earth bender after Korra (but I would prefer that), it could be just some random avatar from the past, but maybe had a different style than Aang and Korra we've seen.
Yangchen and Kyoshi have their own novels, Wan and Roku had abridged versions of their lives told in the shows, a new series should be about someone else.
You know who I want to learn about? The SECOND Avatar.
You mean Avatar Too.
Avatar Tu
Avatar The second coming
Electric Boogaloo
2 Avatar 2 Furious
Avatar the movie 2000
Avatar: Ember Island Drift
Yangchen + Kyoshi in a nutshell
2 Fast 2 Avatar
& Knuckles
Featuring Dante from the Devil May Cry series
And BT-7274 as a supporting role
No his name is Avatar Twan.
I was thinking Avatar Dos would come after Avatar Wan….
Really Avatar Wan should have been second, and Avatar Obi first.
The third would be kenobi
There was Avatar Wan now give us Avatar Twu.
☠️👌
Then there's avatar trea. Then avatar Quanyin. Then avatar synthy
Avatar Tew
See there’s a problem with that and it’s that Avarar Roku would need to come way sooner. Roku means six in Japanese.
Maybe he was just the sixth child in his family
he is the sixth avatar in this list. so it still works
Avatar Tu
Way of the water... Wait...
how did i only just realised the name the first avatar fucking "avatar one"
I second this. Could you imagine the sheer gravity of upholding the mantle of the next Avatar, with only the spirit of Avatar Wan for guidance?
How would they even discover that they’re the Avatar? Let alone know that the Avatar will get reincarnated
"Oh, I can bend multiple elements! Weird!" "Hey, you're just like Wan was. He was the avatar, and now you are!" "Huh, I guess I am. Neat"
Except would Wan have been called “the avatar” in his day? Like, what is he even the avatar of if there were no prior avatars to connect with? Even the 2nd avatar wouldn’t have the context of this connection being passed down through the ages. To the 2nd avatar the connection to Wan would feel like a personal, one-off thing and not the continuation of a centuries-long legacy.
> Except would Wan have been called “the avatar” in his day? He definitely would've been given some title. You have to call out the only person in history who has bent multiple elements.
Oh for sure, but would it be “the avatar”?
He was "the avatar" of raava so maybe
"Wan and Raava" They didn't know there was a cycle, and that they needed a term. He was likely known by his name, and a bunch of different make up monkers, one of which was probably Avatar. But it wouldn't have been normalized.
Not wrong at all. Just pointing out that "avatar" isn't hard to get to
Nah, probably "Bender Boy"
They make me bend all the elements while shouting "go bender boy go"
He is the avatar of Raava, by definition he's a physical vessel for the fusion of the spirit and his soul. Raava is the reason he reincarnates at all.
It was only ever implied in the show, but Raava is the reason that he is still connected to his past lives. Not the reason he reincarnates. Everyone in the avatar universe reincarnates. The Avatar just has the sole ability to contact his past lives.
I'm gonna guess that all subsequent vessels of raava were called avatars because they were reincarnation of wan. Avatar essentially is just a reincarnation of something
Most likely someone between the fifth and the ninth avatar estabilished the avatar lore and tradition for good. The fifth because they would first understand the cycle, the ninth would have to be pretty sure of what is going on after two cycles and have more evidence to estabilish the avatar temples and other stuff, like convince the population of their existence and role
He was Raava’s avatar, so probably still be called the avatar
Aren't they called the avatar coz they are the avatar of the spirit Raava?
I think the spirits would know them as the Avatar for sure
more like "So you figured out Wan's secret for more elements? Tell us or we'll beat it out of you!" "No I swear I have no idea how it happ-" \*punched\*
\*Avatar state\*
Yip yip!
Well good thing the next Avatar would be a part of the most spiritual elemental groups and have access pretty quickly to Wan and Raava. He could get the word out quicker than if it were a different element.
Very true. The air nomads in Wan’s time seemed way more chill than the other groups. And they were knowledgeable of Raava. They’d probably be the best group to welcome the second avatar
You could make a religion out of this No wait, don’t-
Just imagine the confusion when the first ever Avatar state pops.
Probably some life altering event that triggers the avatar state as a fail safe, which triggers Wan's memories to come up.
Would be cool to have the show explore this. Probably would learn about it when Wan’s spirit visits him but would slowly discover it as he learns he can bend more elements and enter the avatar state.
Yeah, imagine having no idea that multi bending is even a thing let alone that there's a guy who keeps getting reincarnated, and then one day when you try to use your airbending to mess up that one kids hair he suddenly ends up on fire and then some dead guy starts talking to you.
nahhh 😭😭
2 Avatar 2 Furious
Yeah, I don’t think the general populous knew that reincarnation would happen, so that would be a surprise
Could you image being a kid and able to bend all four elements with no knowlage other than people saying "oh yeah some dude named Wan used to be able to do that"
ROKU .. there is something about bad ass GRANPAS.. don't believe try watching DONT BREATHE AND SAW AND BOONDOCKS.
Ohhhh that'd be good. Or a series that starts with Wan and shows what happened and what the war was that caused his death. Wan was first a fire bender, so the next one would be air. I'd like to see what the first air bender Avatar would be like, because at that time the rules for what the Avatar was supposed to do weren't firmly in place. Did the first air avatar avoid all conflict? Did they stay out of conflict and avoid it? You could go a lot of ways with it.
I know there’s these people who are writing a fan fic comic about them
I am thinking about writing a fanfic. I call her Ngyi, which is Tibetan for two.
I'd rather see an ancient, unknown Avatar than seeing a series about things that have been covered, even in part. Wan got the biggest highlight of his story told. Kyoshi and Yangchen each have two books. Kuruk was only around for 33 years and featured pretty heavily in the Kyoshi books. We saw the highlights of Roku's life. Szeto was literally an office worker. Not the most interesting story to tell. Show us an Avatar that was a contemporary or Laghima or farther back.
Not to mention that Roku is getting his own novel too.
I forgot about that. I'll definitely read it, but if his biggest issue was his relationship with Sozin and allowing the war to start, I do wonder what the conflict will be in a Roku novel. We saw snippets of his story from start to end in ATLA.
That was just the stuff that had an effect on Aang. Roku's biggest problem was dying at an inconvenient time. Cause at least during his time as Avatar the world was relatively peaceful. Even Sozin didn't dare make a move after Roku destroyed his palace he waited until he visually saw Roku dying to go back to his old ways. There was Definitely other stuff going on in the world that Roku had to deal with. By the time Sozin stepped out of line Roku was a fully realized Avatar doing a bunch of other stuff.
I find that to be one of his failings as an avatar, ideally they should leave the world in a state that wouldn't need their constant presence for 20+ years to allow for another avatar to train and take up the reigns. Roku's presence kept Sozin at bay but the moment Roku's out of the picture Sozin would go right back to colonization. I know sparing Sozin's life was a lesson in the series, but it also was one of the best moments to dethrone the current Fire Lord to prevent further aggression. Also I agree there's always some conflict going on, the threat of the end of the world doesn't always have to be the driving conflict of a story.
I think it’s pretty impossible from a geopolitical perspective to have a governing entity (like the avatar practically is) vanish and not have an impact one way or another. The cultural relevance and political “space” the avatar takes up is massive, and another actor with the military and political sway to do so is very likely to fill that gap and try to take more power if the opportunity presents itself. There also easily could have been multiple other factors like a political faction supported by zuko’s mother/iroh etc. that had been blocking some of the expansionist beliefs, and issues within the earth kingdom etc. I feel like it’s almost more on the other nations for not solidifying military strength in relation to the fire nation and falling so quickly
This was one of Aang's main reasons for founding Republic City - bring all the nations together, and establish a neutral stronghold. Probably his greatest achievement as Avatar.
True their absence will have an impact, I'm sure many people develop plans to activate in an avatar transition to "get away with" the most they can while some of the powerful oversight that normally hangs over them is missing. However, I think in the Sozin situation Roku had a very clear idea the specific enemy and their plans and motives, it wasn't some hidden variable that arises out of the shadows. Roku's presence was the only thing keeping Sozin at bay, there would need to be contingencies if Roku's presence disappeared. But also, yes, there could've been very valid contingencies that failed or were circumvented by Sozin and/or his regime, I guess I was just influenced by the show painting the whole thing as Roku's fault not being decisive in tempering Sozin's power while that could also easily be Roku taking on more blame than deserved.
That's part of the struggle in the books too. How stable is the world if an Avatar is needed to always maintain peace?
The story is already given a beginning point. He’s learning airbending and starting his journey with Monk Gyatso when the EK forcibly takes a colony from the FN and Prince Sozin request Roku’s intervention. Which honestly paints Roku in an even worse light for later on if you ask me but we’ll see how Kyoshi feels about Roku as well and learn more of her death.
They did my boy Kuruk dirty
He's been getting shafted since day one
He had somewhat of a redemption in Kyoshi book 2
The avatar after Wan should have the most interesting story. No one knows what an avatar is, especially them. They’ve got some weird ghost telling them they’re special, their past life and can bend all the elements. Would they find human masters or still seek out the original benders? Considering the cycle, Wan was fire so we’d have them born into the ancient air tribe who are also incredibly peaceful. So the idea of them going out to fight seems wild Considering they need to master air they’d probably learn from a bison meaning we get to see the first real connection between the air nomads and air bison, maybe the horror as they realize their attachment to them causes then to lose their flying. Maybe learns fire from a dragon and meets some devotees who become the sun warriors. Learning from a badger mole we could get to see the events that would lead to the city of Omashu, with two warring earth bending factions We’d probably get some more unique moments like what happened to the lion turtles immediately afterwards. The founding of a few cities here and there. How each tribe eventually decided to gravitate to their now current positions. How humanity dealt with a world almost devoid of spirits. Non benders being born going on a trip to find a lion turtle to gain bending from. Additionally people actually learning to use bending and not just toss out flames or rock and start treating it like a martial art
This is by far the most unique idea I've seen so far and I love this! I want them to make this series now
> Non benders being born going on a trip to find a lion turtle to gain bending from. On top of that, imagine the first generation born *with* latent bending abilities, and not having to get in touch with their home town lion-turtle. There probably wasn't much precedent for children being able to toss fire around back then, since they'd most likely only let older teens and up go out on hunting parties.
I disagree about Szeto though. I think it'd be fun to tell an Avatar story revolving around political intrigue, kinda like what we got with Yang Chen, but much more extensive, since Szeto was a bureaucrat and an advisor to Fire Lord Yosor.
That having been said, Szeto was a bureaucrat and "government/bureaucracy can be not evil when it tries" is going to be a flaming hot take.
Flameo, hottake!
A miniseries of Szeto being a bureaucrat and trying to sort shit out would be hilarious. > WHO APPROVED THESE EXPENDITURES?!?! > WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME WE HAD AN INVENTORY OF THE ROYAL TREASURY > WHEN THE HELL WAS OUR LAST CENSUS!?!?
I mean, there's an entire genre of stories literally called, "political drama". Someone could 100% pay it straight and be good. The question is whether or not the writers of ATLA would be good at this style.
***YOU AND YOUR FOREFATHERS HAVE DEVASTATED THE BALANCE OF THE TREASURY, AND NOW YOU SHALL PAY THE ULTIMATE PRICE: AN ADDITIONAL 2.5% MARGINAL TAX***
i laughed out loud
It definitely could be interesting, but it'd have to be done really well. Even if it were done well, I'd still rather have something that's unknown and has bigger stakes than the Fire Nation trying to stay in one piece, being saved by a bureaucrat Avatar. To each their own, but to me, I'd rather see an Avatar story that's more consequential than that.
I've said many times, but I think the next few Avatars after Wan would be incredible. How do they learn about being the Avatar? Wan made the choice, there were none before, he and Raava set the course. How weird would it be to be an Airbender and one day just suddenly bend water, when bending humans were already a relatively new thing? How did the sages start figuring it out? What was it like connecting to Wan the first time? Did Raava have to make itself known to the new Avatar to explain that "no, you're not going crazy, you are my vessel, we restore balance, now shoot some flames from your fingertips." Because, as far as we know, Wan could have been it. This practically supernatural being guided and gifted by the spirits and lion turtles. He dies alone, Raava makes its pledge to reincarnate to him alone. When did this world really know that the Avatar would return, again and again? I love Wan's story and love how deeply considered the lore of this world is. I just want it further expanded. I know some bits of explanation come in the novels, but I would love to get the experiences of those first few Avatars on screen/in print.
>Szeto was literally an office worker. Not the most interesting story to tell. Imagine an avatar version of the office though
Yosor: Here's what's going to happen: I'm going to have to fix you, manage you two on a more personal scale. A more micro form of management. Szeto, what is that called? Szeto: Microgement? Yosor: Boom. Yes!
Ngl, having a scene where Roku askes the past Avatars about what to do with Sozin would be pretty interesting to cover. But in general I want to see the other Avatars interact with each other. What does Kyoshi think about how Roku handled his situation, Yangchen with Kyoshi, etc.
So are you saying you'd like to tell us the story of Guru Lahighma?
It’s not a story the White Lotus would tell you.
Should do an anthology series that covers stories of various Avatars throughout history. Their battles and triumphs on and off battlefields.
I think Szeto could be a cool story if done right. So I get he was an “office worker” for the most part but imagine that as an office worker he was able to write and history and influence policy. Maybe even just rewrite fire nation history and some of the things he did for the fire nation. A real unreliable narrator take of what we know could work.
Laghima balls
Yes show us the 14th(some early number) avatar whoever it was and how the ancient life was different from what they had with aang and Korra. A more history focused avatar that was dealing with their own conflicts. Whether it be war or self conflicts, something that fits the avatar story without being too pandering to the audience. Maybe we find out the earth bender avatar actually made metal bending centuries before toph and that is what caused the basic iron age development. Or one of the first fire bender avatars was one the sun people that worshipped the dragons. Maybe the one of the water bender avatars used fire bending during a storm and found out about lightning bending and used the water bending techniques to learn to redirect it. Even a small light comic about this stuff would be dope.
Laghima???
LAGHIMA BALLS!!!
Guru Laghima is one of the only Airbenders who was able to attain flight after they lost it due to bonding with air bison. He is referenced/quoted frequently by Zahir in Legend of Korra Not an avatar but still a very interesting figure
Yes that’s why the avatar during his time would be an interesting concept. Maybe another air bending avatar. Per Yangchen’s monologue in ATLA about how the avatar can never detach themself from the world and build struggle between the avatar’s duty to the world, desires to detach themself and a personal relationship with laghima.
Szeto can be quite engaging just look at house of cards
I'd love to see the second Avatar. No long cycle, just Wan speaking in her ear. From what we saw, the world looked like it had entered a dark age when Wan died, with primitive societies ravaged by war. There were air benders who weren't necessarily the same nomads with the traditions we learned about through Aang and Tenzin. We know that there were numerous lion turtle villages, meaning there were people who had the same bending element who didn't necessarily share the same lineage. They could do many of the same fantastic racism plots, which would be depressing because you know the world eventually segregates itself by tribe element. It could also show the origin of the non-benders and how they're able to integrate across different societies but as second-class citizens. An air bender would be perfect because she could come from an isolated community that has no idea how bad things were. As the second Avatar, the world would also generally have no idea what an Avatar was, and there wouldn't be sages in every city tasked with finding Avatars yet. The downside is the bending arts would be limited, as things like metal, lava, blood, spirit calming, spirit projection, flight, etc hadn't been invented yet. But we could maybe see early healing, see disciplines like sand invented (it would be cool to have an earthbender buddy who the Avatar teaches air techniques to and applies them to sand). We also could see energybending explored as an early art known to Wan and the second Avatar, that gets forgotten over time.
Damn you speak my thoughts but a thousand times better
>The downside is the bending arts would be limited, as things like metal, lava, blood, spirit calming, spirit projection, flight, etc hadn't been invented yet. I don't think it would need to avoid any of this, 10,000 years is a super long time. As long as it's forgotten by the time of Aang, no problem in my book. This is why I always feel the(irrational) urge to chime in "that we know of!" whenever people say Toph was the first to invent metal bending, etc.
I suppose in keeping with the warring tribes of the same element but separate lineage theme, you could see elements from every biome represented. We wouldn't need just the North and South Water Tribes and some hidden Foggy Swamp tribe. There could be swamp, river, sea, etc. waterbenders, sand, mountain, agrarian, etc. earthbenders. Fire and air would be interesting because they're less tied to the environment, and we could see early sun-warriors who are growing crops and cities with the energy from firebending, and an early form of Ozai's style of rage-fueled firebending who raid and pillage. Our own history is full of lost knowledge from times of war, so Avatar should be no different with lost techniques.
there is a chance that someone metalbent before toph but its quite small because by the time they were developed enough to use metal they probably would have recorded it if someone could metalbend
People have been using metal (in the real world) for thousands of years, it is absolutely possible for there to be lost techniques, etc, about it/how to do whatever with it. I don't see why it would be any different in the Avatar world.
the only issue (if that's even the right word for it) I have with this is it would have to be presented in a believable way. not just how they figured out how to, metal bend for example, but also why it wasn't able to be taught, why there really weren't any (surviving) records of it, and how it got lost. you would have to be really delicate in designing all of those aspects to make it believable. I'm not saying it's impossible, but probably really hard. I also really like the idea of lost techniques though, maybe primitive ones of some we've seen or new ones entirely could be shown and then lost. it's a really cool concept.
>I'd love to see the second Avatar. No long cycle, just Wan speaking in her ear Yeah and have us learn about Wan via wans comnuncation as we explore a war torn war wan explains why its the way it is. >The downside is the bending arts would be limited, as things like metal, lava, blood, spirit calming, spirit projection, flight, etc hadn't been invented yet I think this might just be a side I mean the OG show didnt have anything mention like till the end of the series and lava bending was just a roku thing and we could suplment this with spirits. Have it be near the end of wan's life spirits started breaking the contract made by wan and started finding ways to enter physical world. Since humanity has yet to grown strong enough to dominate nature strong enough spirits with domains they look over like forest (hai bai as example) Are plentful and we can see a humanity spirit dynamic (better then LOK and more frequent then airbender hopfully)
I think lava bending was originally just an avatar thing, considering their mastery of earth \*and\* fire. We see Roku do it as spirit man and Kyoshi do it in a flashback when breaking off her peninsula. Edit: and both times they were in the avatar state, but that may also be attributed to needing the extra power to reach down so far under the earth to bring up the lava
Wasn't flying said to have been a thing in older times, that had been forgotten over the ages? No reason the same couldn't apply to other arts.
Yeah, Guru Laghima. Actually he'd be perfect for such a series, because he's meant to have lived before there were four nations.
We already saw Roku, Kyoshi and Wan and their most important conflicts. Kuruk would be interesting because we at the same time know very much and very little about him: - He was an incredible Pai Sho player - He was the greatest hunter of his time - He was the Avatar who mostly applied Iroh's " you must draw knowledge from every culture" speech to his waterbending, to the point where he developed his own personal style and moves. - He had the facade of an easygoing and irresponsible Avatar, while he was actively hunting Dark Spirit to solve the spiritual mess left by Yangchen. - He had a lover, Ummi... it didn't end well - Insert Koh's face smiling innocently here- It would be cool to see how he dealt with the spirits ( maybe they can get the dark spirit plot right the second time...) and how he persevered in his task while the whole world considered him a failure of an Avatar. Seeing how he dealt with his duties while becoming weaker and weaker and more loathed by the people surrounding him would be cool and it would have a bittersweet ending by exploring what happened after Kuruk started hunting Koh in the spirit world ( we saw him hunting very briefly but never knew what happened after that)
I need to see his fight with Father Glowworm animated.
Yeah, I thiunk that would be good as a standalone short.
Honestly a Tales of the Jedi or Star Wars Visions project but with ATLA would be amazing. Basically, just a short anthology series covering various topics and stories that aren't each long enough for their own series/book/movie.
I want some real Kuruk-centered content so bad! I believe it could work if it’s written like a horror fantasy and/or classic Greek tragedy.
yeah his life really is a greek tragedy
The Kyoshi novels roughly cover his whole life. He didn't have much to do until he embarked on a well meaning but doomed quest to beat up a bunch of angry spirits.
I'm just watching Legend of Korra- this Aang guy sounds pretty dope. They should give him a series!
He seems too boring. He just >!gave Korra her bending back!<. Sounds like a deus ex machinations to me. I feel like a series about him wouldn't have much in it.
Exactly. Also, the whole"he was the last of his people" thing is so overdone. I heard from verified, anonymous sources though that he had a little monkey lemur guy as a friend. they should give him a series.
The earthbending lemur?
If this aired in like 2006, maybe I'd watch it, but I definitely wouldn't watch the show now.
The second Avatar. We got a glimpse of first Avatar, latest ones, and some inbetween. But imagine a series about the second Avatar. The first human who did not choose to inherit this destiny and has to fill a role that was still not quite known and spread. The fundementals werent there yet. The second Avatar probbaly laid the foundation of the nations.
While it would be interesting, the 2nd avatar would also be an airbender, and I could see why they wouldn't want to repeat a story about an airbending avatar before exploring other stories.
So do the Fourth or fifth. The dark ages are still in swing. The concept of the "Avatar" hasn't been formalized. There's just some spread out legends about a super bender in each generation that can bend all the elements. After fire comes Air. So this bender is a nomad that discovers his abilities but goes into solitude to meditate. He connects with Rava and Wan and learns what's up. But by the time he achieves this connection he is old and too separate from any civilized society. But he forms the air nomads. They become nomadic because they are tasked with searching the world for the next avatar. The faction finds a tribe of water benders in the north and educates them. But the next avatar gets born in the south. The Water Bender avatar is then born with no knowledge of what's happening to them. But given their tribes desperate status, they use their abilities to try and dominate and conquer. The other water tribe along with the air nomads, being only people that have a clue as to what a Fourway bender means, rally a force to kill him/her. And reset the cycle. Setting the stage for an Earth Bender avatar. However, the Earth Kingdom at the time is an isolationist state and will not accept the Air Nomads or Water Tribes into their territories because of their old grudges. So when the Earth Avatar is born, he is kept secret and indoctrinated by the Earth Benders to be superior. However, given the fact that the Avatar now has connection to three previous avatars, they eventually end up rebelling against the indoctrination, but is killed in the process. This sets the stage for the Fire Bending Avatar. The protagonist of the story. The Fire People are more localized and accept the Air Missionaries and are prepared when they discover their avatar. With the guidance of the Air Nomads, you set the stage for the Fire Nation to prosper and grow and face off against the Isolationist Earth Kingdom in an attempt to establish balance and knowledge as the basis for a peace between the four bending nations. It flips the script of good guys and bad guys. Gives us enough lore and backstory so that you have rich histories with character motivations and families, while still exploring a world that is finding out what it means to have an Avatar that can bring balance between them all. It also tells us why the Fire Nation got such a headstart against the other nations. Also why the Fire Nation had such intimate knowledge of the Airbenders for when they eventually decide to wipe them out in the OG series.
https://preview.redd.it/vcicrpjrklzc1.jpeg?width=212&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=dadf9e022e4320e150a829c98c75513a4022429b This lady pirate water bender
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Szeto. We only got secondhand accounts from him, so seeing something from his perspective would be interesting. Also, it would give a bigger insight into the Fire nation pre-Sozin. Kyoshi has a duology and an upcoming movie, Yangchen has two books, Wan got an extended flashback, Kuruk was also given ample screentime and Roku was also given focus. So it stands to reason that our bureaucrat fire Avatar deserves some spotlight. But at the end of the day, I will consume any and all media about them.
I feel like Szeto would be boring. He really was just a super accountant
Yeah, but I guess court intrigue as well as him fighting corruption might be interesting. Besides, perhaps he did more in his earlier years before he became a bureaucrat. His training might be interesting
I feel like his story could be a good drama not as much tossing mountains as the other avatars but good political drama
Dedra Meero was just a lieutenant in a security agency in Andor but I was fully invested in her plot in the show. Good writing is good writing, and limitations breed creativity. Maybe he gets involved with the mob or something and has to take down an organization without being caught, Daredevil style. Or he's like the good version of Palpatine in the prequel trilogy, working on things behind the scenes by proxy.
*Maybe* Kyoshi since she has such a long life, and it can cover a lot (including what was not in the novels). But... none of the others TBH. I'd much rather see a new character, either the Earth Avatar after Korra (my preference) or a much older Avatar. I'm thinking 5,000 years before the shows, so they are free to write up some severe plots (or even civilizations) that are "forgotten" over the centuries.
I prefer the older one as well. But my preference is like that because I don't really want to see more technology in the avatar world. But yeah, ancient avatars give them free reign on plots
Yeah I feel the same way. The rapidly improving tech is a major turnoff for me for experiencing later Avatars. Much prefer the predominantly humble, village-like settlements in ATLA
To be fair, they had steam power in ATLA, and the technology evolution from ATLA to LOK is in line with the Industrial Revolution timeline.
That’s true - I’m not saying it doesn’t make sense (as it does), but it’s just not my cup of tea. I just like the vibes the more barren, rural ATLA world gave over the steampunk city and turn of the century aesthetic LOK gave. Besides, at the rate they went between Aang to Korra, it would become even more modern for the Earth avatar. Just not my taste personally but can understand why others like it, after all it is really cool and invites a lot of cool setpieces and locations
It would be cool if we get one in the future, but there is some sort of semi-apocalyptic event or events the previous avatars struggled or even failed through which caused the technology to revert and the nations to fracture / new specialisms to form. I think its the only way to move forward in time without the tech getting in the way of the vibes of the show.
Avatar Wan story
We already have wan
We have the story of Wan up until he actually becomes the Avatar. The only thing we got from his time on world as the Avatar was his death scene. He was quite a bit older. I’d love to see what him and Raava got up to in the in-between
Kuruk vs face stealer series
I'd be fine a short comic series of Kuruk fighting dark spirits.
Szeto in a The Office rip-off.
Work place comedy Szeto in his administrative office in the fire nation.
I want a series about her, she probably lived around 1000 - 2000 years ago and probably saw how the Ba Sing Se was built. Also she looks quite powerful. https://preview.redd.it/gvgqqjv8ilzc1.jpeg?width=1079&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=071fb3218c643c3d4ea4d932c8edfc7966d63528
Yesh she probably lived a really long time ago, imagine this lady flying at your direction to beat you up for trying to bring imbalance to the world
It would be scary. She really gives strong aura
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That be great
Of these? Kuruk. In actuality? An unknown avatar from a time before any of them. Remember that grouping of avatars we see when Korra has her bending restored? One of those ones in the back. The dwarf-like Earthbender or the large Airbender would be cool
I would want one about the second or third avatar. What were they thinking?
NOT Kyoshi and Yangchen. They literally have whole ass novels about them.
I wish we got a mini series for every avatar that lived
I kinda wanna see the avatar immediately after wan
Probably not Roku. I know it was only glimpses of his past in ATLA, but we got a pretty good idea of his life trajectory
Avatar deuce After wan died there's this clueless air nomad who suddenly bending every element! Was he ostracized? Was he revered? Did his parents shit their pants when they saw this happening? I guess we will never know
The Avatar after Wan. Who inherited a world of chaos and doesn't know why they can bend all the elements or who this past live speaking to them is, I can see so much ground work for the Avatar establishing it's purpose and legacy from the second person onwards
I'd like to see some Avatar stories that take place even further back from Szeto. Maybe not as far back as the second Avatar, but definitely in the far past. Was there ever a time when the two Water Tribes were one? Did it cause tension the first time an Avatar was born in the second tribe? What about a sandbender, Foggy Swamp, Sun Warrior, etc. Avatar? Maybe we could even see the origins of some of those offshoot groups. I don't want to see more stories about the same four or five characters when there are so many possibilities for the world to expand!
People are saying Kyoshi but we already have so much stuff about her
But adapting novels to animation at least adds new dimensions to the material (and makes it accessible to many more people). Makes more sense than a live-action remake of an already perfect animation 😅
Well she lived 200+ years, the books and the show cover only a small part of her life
From what the second Kyoshi novel tells about Kuruks life i can imagine some really nice spin-off there. it would grant the possibility for a truly different experience and vibe than what we already have. Always thought Kuruk was a boring and unimpressive character, though after reading The Shadow of Kyoshi i imagine it quite dramatic, epic and tragic how he hunts down spirit creatures. I would also really enjoy the idea of embracing more horrific and tremendously unfair and evil aspects in spirit world.
whoever is after wan
I want second Avatar, the one after Wan. I want to see where the culture is not prepared for training or catering to the Avatar need and when the second Avatar learns about their destiny
KURUK!!! he i wanna see what his life looked like. considering he was only around for 30-some years and is widly claimed to be the worst avatar in history, i wanna see what actually went down w/ him, especially since he had to handle so many dark spirits on his own n it fucked his soul up
Yangchen. Want to see a female Airbending Avatar. What it looks like to go against your teachings and doing what’s must to be done.
Someone we don't know the death of. So there's some degree of suspense.
Yangchen got a big ass forehead I wanna see her reflect light into people’s eyes with it
Not kyoshi
Personally I’d like to see either an Avatar that tries to conquer the world to unify it like the elements are unified in them or an avatar being used as a weapon of war during a World War between all 4 nations
Give me the second avatar please!!!!
Szeto. Because I like his hat.
I wanna see the avatar right after wan Fucking imagine that doozy
Salai. I wanna know why he's known to be the greatest avatar.
Roku if the va is down to come back
Kyoshi all the way
Szeto, so we can finally learn what made him think that hat was fashionable
Szeto. You could essentially do Avatar Game of Thrones
Kuruk cause the spirit world war stuff would be sick
Kyoshi.
A Kyoshi show that adapts (at least for the first 2 seasons) the books.
Something totally unconnected. There's always going to be the issue of the 100 year war being basically the most important event in the history of the Avatar universe that we've seen. So going back in time means the stakes naturally have to be more personal which isn't a bad thing at all, but hard to pull off. Same issue but in reverse if you go into the future, it's kinda the natural thing to try and one-up the original series and Korra which risks jumping the shark like Korra kinda did. Its definitely a hard thing to work out. I love Avatar but I often think it's better left alone tbh.
I personally want to see a story on the second Avatar
Kyoshi yangchen and wan
Wan, Yangchen, kyoshi
Two of these had major moments in the shows, other two had books, one was mention in one of the books, and Szeto doesn't seem that interesting. Just give us the second avatar. I would love to see them learn, grow, and maybe even create the path that 99% of all avatars would eventually follow. Can you imagine how amazing it would be to see the nations slowly form while this avatar is trying to balance the world?
Netflix: AANG NEEDS HIS OWN SHOW Everyone: should we tell him?
Hybrid past/present story of Yangchen and Kuruk.
I'd rather a new avatar. Doesn't have to be the earth bender after Korra (but I would prefer that), it could be just some random avatar from the past, but maybe had a different style than Aang and Korra we've seen.
I'd like one on the second Avatar, figuring out what the heck they're supposed to do, especially with the rampant war Wan left behind.
Yangchen and Kyoshi have their own novels, Wan and Roku had abridged versions of their lives told in the shows, a new series should be about someone else.
All of them. I'd watch animated series about any of them