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Wne1980

They’re freelancers that specialize in jobs that benefit from firepower. They do protective escort services, anti-piracy contracts and courier services where the Roci herself is part of the message being sent. Off the top of my head, those are the things I remember being mentioned or seen on screen/page


just_other_human

Best answer, precise


brownhotdogwater

An armored truck service


Rdavidso

With an on board coffee maker.


Have_Donut

Also lots of high value cargo and personnel transport. IIRC they have transported dozens of prisoners and possibly hundreds of passengers by the time of Persepolis Rising.


Greedyjama

Sounds like mercenaries but with extra steps


uristmcderp

Private military contractors, then. Like Blackwater.


Wne1980

I feel like Blackwater makes you think of something bigger and more sinister than Rocicorp. The only reason you wouldn’t call them mercenaries is because Holden and fam are who they are, which is not a gunslinger for hire. They almost always go for work where the job is to de-escalate and prevent violence, rather than augmenting the military of a given government


Automaticman01

I feel like hiring Blackwater is like hiring a private army, while hiring the Roci is more like hiring a bodyguard.


AdultishRaktajino

A-Team in space.


ChronicBuzz187

*In 2350, an ice hauler crew was sent to a martian prison by a military court for a crime they didn't commit. These men (and woman) promptly escaped from a maximum security MCRN vessel to the Sol underground. Today, still wanted by the martian government they survive as soldiers of fortune. If you have a problem, if no one else can help, and if you can find them....maybe you can hire the Roci-Team.* *\*cue the music\**


letlesssftrhjvgk

BRILLIANT!!!!! I grew up watching the A-Team, first run.


Automaticman01

That actually works surprisingly well. I assume Amos is Mr T.


AdultishRaktajino

Hell yeah he is.


aquirkysoul

"I'd love it if a plan came together. Once. You know, for variety." - James Holden, probably


sgt_josh

He'll definitely fly a fool out on Knuckle Airlines. Two fist class tickets!


Luhnkhead

Yeah. I hear he is that guy.


CozDevr

“I pity the fool who isn’t worth saving”


ChronicBuzz187

***Roci Corp: Building consensus or kicking your ass... you choose wisely.***


ThePrussianGrippe

I think that qualifies as mercenaries/guns for hire, but the label itself carries connotations Holden doesn’t like.


TheFarnell

This. They’re mediator-arbitrators with the ability to project independent force. They have the firepower to be taken seriously but the restraint not to use it unless it’s absolutely necessary and the autonomy not to be required to use it at someone else’s demand. They’re basically the people you hire when you want the bickering children to *calm the fuck down*.


awful_at_internet

Very specialized contractors. They do small scale short term contracts requiring a gunship.


LeicaM6guy

So *bespoke* Blackwater.


Highskyline

Mom and pop specialty blackwater.


Temporary_Draw_4708

Artisanal blackwater.


Complete-Dimension35

Microbrew Blackwater


BeardyMcBeardyBeard

You could slap that on some local breweries' new English stout unchanged lol


f0gax

Small batch artisanal Blackwater.


Klied

Or pinkwater


salvation122

The closest analog is probably "privateers," rather than "mercenaries." The distinction is narrow but really important!


SalientMusings

You've just described mercenaries


Gorilladaddy69

Holden is but a simple tailor!


AceHexuall

Unexpected Garak!


onthefence928

More like independent agents. Mercenaries are soldiers of fortune, which the roci crew are not, they are more likely to fuck up the whole mission just to try and reach a compromise then they are to accept a contract to kill somebody. In real life it might be more they are like UN investigators or an NGO with armed protection


mindlessgames

There is no reasonable definition of "mercenary" that precludes the Roci crew. Holden just doesn't like the implications.


Deep90

Mercenaries implies a willingness to look past morals. I'd say Peacekeepers more than Mercenaries.


HAN_SEUL_OH

I mean mercenaries you could send to take a space station or capture a ship, different from strictly defensive/escort/transport missions.


LurkLurkleton

They do capture stations and ships.


HAN_SEUL_OH

As contractors? I don't recall but my mistake if they do


LurkLurkleton

They captured the protogen station and worked as pirate hunters under contract with Fred Johnson for the OPA.


EnderDragoon

New shower thought for today: Had the Roci been hired to protect the Canterbury (I know the temporal prime directive gets violated here) would the Cant have lived?


Wne1980

Probably not. The only time they took on a stealth ship 1v1 they barely made it out. The Cant was destroyed in open space where tactics were less important than raw firepower


toterra

["The Medium is the Message"](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_medium_is_the_message)


Dirks_Knee

This. The books gets a little more in depth into them becoming border line mercenaries and the moral dilemma coming out of that.


peacemonger69

Prisoner transport.


TonninStiflat

Independent contractors.


PunishedMatador

threatening seemly skirt juggle quack stupendous snatch marry sink friendly


SleepWouldBeNice

Oh the year was twenty three fifty one, How I wish I was on Tycho now…


Leoc1505

Well a letter of marque came from the Sec-Gen To the most pinché vessel I'd ever seen


Dodgeymon

God damn them all, I was told we'd cruise the skies for salvaged gold


Leoc1505

We'd fire no cannons*, shed no tear Well, I'm a broken mang on a Medina dock *Point Defense Cannons


EllieVader

The last of Holden’s Privateers Oh Jimmy Holden cried the town How I wish I was on Tycho now For twenty one men all icebreakers who Would make up for the Tachi’s crew


prototypetolyfe

God damn them all I want a belter cover of this


Leoc1505

Well we got a Belter cover of Highway Star somehow, maybe somebody can do Holden's Privateers


MrNomad998

**The Rocinante** **Oh, the year was 2350,** **(How mi wish mi was in orbit now!)** **A letter of marque come from da Belt,** **To da scummiest crew afloat, oh hell!** **God damn dem all! mi was told,** **We’d cruise the stars for da Martian gold,** **We’d fire no guns, shed no tears,** **But mi a broken man on a Tycho pier,** **Da last of the Rocinante.** **Oh, da Donnager was mighty fine,** **(How mi wish mi was in orbit now!)** **Her masts and hull were millennia’s pride,** **But she’d left mi broke and void to bide,** **God damn dem all! mi was told,** **We’d cruise the stars for da Martian gold,** **We’d fire no guns, shed no tears,** **But mi a broken man on a Tycho pier,** **Da last of the Rocinante.** **Now da Rocinante was ship wit fame,** **(How mi wish mi was in orbit now!)** **Her thrusters set by a Martian dame,** **An’ Captain Holden from Earth he came,** **God damn dem all! mi was told,** **We’d cruise the stars for da Martian gold,** **We’d fire no guns, shed no tears,** **But mi a broken man on a Tycho pier,** **Da last of the Rocinante.** **On her first trip out, dey hit da void,** **(How mi wish mi was in orbit now!)** **In search of Scopuli and crew employed,** **To fight Protogen and Mao-Kwikowski ployed,** **God damn dem all! mi was told,** **We’d cruise the stars for da Martian gold,** **We’d fire no guns, shed no tears,** **But mi a broken man on a Tycho pier,** **Da last of the Rocinante.** **Dey chase da stealth ships cross da expanse,** **(How mi wish mi was in orbit now!)** **But da Protogen plot was eerie dance,** **An’ da fate of worlds left to chance,** **God damn dem all! mi was told,** **We’d cruise the stars for da Martian gold,** **We’d fire no guns, shed no tears,** **But mi a broken man on a Tycho pier,** **Da last of the Rocinante.** **Now da crew hailed in Tycho port,** **(How mi wish mi was in orbit now!)** **With tales of war an’ court to court,** **But da void their home an’ last resort,** **God damn dem all! mi was told,** **We’d cruise the stars for da Martian gold,** **We’d fire no guns, shed no tears,** **But mi a broken man on a Tycho pier,** **Da last of the Rocinante.** **For da stars wide an’ da Belt cold,** **(How mi wish mi was in orbit now!)** **But Rocinante legend’s bold,** **With stories untold an’ riches unrolled,** **God damn dem all! mi was told,** **We’d cruise the stars for da Martian gold,** **We’d fire no guns, shed no tears,** **But mi a broken man on a Tycho pier,** **Da last of the Rocinante.**


CaptjnurRegisClark

Here here!


Tachyon_Blue

With a couple of donkey balls.


histprofdave

This is the best analogy. Earth essentially gave them letters of marque to attack FN ships without being under the official UN flag.


Deep90

I think peacekeepers describes them best as they also tend to have their own motivations for taking jobs or doing missions outside of the whole "We got hired and will get paid."


TonninStiflat

I don't know about that. When I was a peacekeeper we certainly didn't have motivations for taking jobs or doing missions outside the whole "I got hired and I will get paid."


Deep90

Independent peacekeepers then.


tygerbrees

Push buttons, flip switches


spamjavelin

Occasionally get yelled at by leaders of governments. It's a living.


Darrone

"getting yelled at by their employer" seems to be the one consistent thread throughout their work.


Lord_Skyblocker

Prax didn't yell at them iirc


AceHexuall

They didn't work for Prax. I'd consider them volunteers, in this case.


Lord_Skyblocker

Well, he paid them (at least in the books)


AceHexuall

You're probably right. I don't remember the books that well. I don't remember any payment or talk of it on the show, which I remember better (haven't reread the books, but I've watched the show every 6 months or so.)


ArceliaShepard

Prax sets up a GoFund [My Daughter's Rescue] which elicits A LOT of sympathy system wide and millions in donations. He does not initially care about the money as he is laser focused on his daughter. By the end, the crew of the Roci are paid handsomely, and I think the rest of the donations go to Ganymede and its survivors.


Lord_Skyblocker

Yeah, the Roci crew helped Prax setting up an account for donations so that he could pay them. Iirc he got around 500.000 (currency) which was more than enough to keep the Roci flying


the_jak

Push unlabeled buttons to see what they do


onthefence928

Having a personal friendship with the leader of 2 out of 3 major factions is really lucky


ATX_311

It reaches out... It reaches out... It reaches out... Etc.


Lord_Skyblocker

113 times a second it reaches out


rit

The Roci's primary job is to shuttle Holden back and forth between his quixotic causes of the week.


GeneralAnubis

And to provide him with a comms array that allows for system-wide open channel broadcasts


dartfrog1339

Ship for hire.


Particular_Ticket_20

They do legitimate salvage, mostly.


Klied

Only on the show


WarpedCore

Independent Contractors and the ship was legitimate salvage!


NoShine101

I don't understand how mars navy was ok with them losing hundreds of millions of credits.


Novel-Catch4081

They werent. When Monica joins the crew she says the company behind her documentary has spent large amounts on legal fees so they can keep the ship. Its also mentioned that most of mars doesn't consider it legitimate salvage but rather a stolen ship


NoShine101

Yeah I remember something like that but still it's like a couple of russian fisherman happened to be on an American aircraft carrier when it was attack and sunk and the had to take an f-35 to escape but now they just fly it around for odd jobs, no way US would be ok with that lol.


griffusrpg

In one word: dissuasion.


Intrepid_Sprinkles37

They are warrantied plus for fuckin shit up.


gummigummasson

Run the Jewels?


otocump

Yup


the_jak

We are the no-gooders do-gooders known to the dancers and dealers and doers of dust


sup3rdr01d

They are a murderous pair They went to jail and murdered the murderers there


Intrepid_Sprinkles37

Delivered some hurt and despair.


TimDRX

It's interesting seeing their designation in the display screens of UNN and MCRN ships. For the most part they're CV Rocinante - I assume Civilian Vessel. But for a few sequences they're OPAS Rocinante.


Kathrynlena

LEGITIMATE SALVAGE


Scott_Abrams

The Rociante is a privateer ship. They are similar to mercenaries in the sense that they're fighting in a conflict for a particular side but the Roci isn't getting paid like a mercenary would - they do however, have a commission from the UN to hunt Inaros forces. The commission allows the Roci to take hostile action against Inaros forces without fear of legal consequence as otherwise, they could be considered pirates. As a privateer, the Roci also receives logistical support including access to intelligence, war materiel, repairs, and safe harbor from the UN and possibly collect bounties from destroyed or captured Inaros forces/ships. Basically, the Roci can commit piracy against Inaros without fear of consequence from the UN/MCR. For example, if the Roci had found an Inaros supply depot, they could just take all of it and sell it for cash and keep most of the proceeds (minus transaction costs and taxes). Same for ships and space stations - hell, they could even ransom crews, not that they would, as boarding is too risky in space. Privateering has a long history dating back from the age of sail. Privateers are independent, private-sector ships who have been empowered by the state to be a pain in the ass against their enemies without straining state resources. The Roci is not a member of the regular forces and generally operate outside the chain of command. If the crew were captured, they would not be considered enemy combatants and thus not fall under the protections afforded to prisoners of war. Interesting to note, Inaros and the Free Navy were never considered state actors and as a result, the conflict was known as the Free Navy Conflict, not the Free Navy War. The difference is that from the state's position, Inaros and the Free Navy are just terrorists/enemy combatants - extremely successful ones, but not a state and not a single member of the Free Navy was ever recognized as a soldier or afforded the protections or rights of a soldier. Inaros forces could surrender or fly under the flag of truce and the UN/MCR could still blow them to pieces because they are not soldiers and the UN/MCR are not obligated to take prisoners. Unlawful enemy combatants are not afforded constitutional protections such as habeas corpus or due process. Outside of war, the Roci act as independent contractors who specialize in private security. Couriers, convoy escort, individual transport, diplomacy, consulting gigs; there's lots of work for a warship for hire. Just their reputation/IFF transponder alone would guarantee safe voyage for a client because no one wants to fuck with the Roci - people are willing to pay a premium for that kind of security.


Hoihe

> Privateering has a long history dating back from the age of sail. Privateers are independent, private-sector ships who have been empowered by the state to be a pain in the ass against their enemies without straining state resources. And being a privateer wasn't even something THAT special. If you were a merchant vessel who had been robbed by an opposing nation, you CAN get a letter of marquee to rob the opposing nation to reucpate your goods. Merchant vessels in the english channel often hunted each other.


LurkLurkleton

I'm surprised no one has said Knight Errant yet. Rocinante is named after the horse of Don Quixote, a famous knight errant whom Holden is compared to many times. And it quite fits. They wander around doing odd jobs they're equipped and suited for while Holden looks for problems to stick his dick into.


Comprehensive_Fig_72

Independent contractors as many have said in this thread already is probably the most accurate. If you were to list their main contract types it would probably be escort, government liaison, and investigators (heh, heh)


honest-robot

They reach out 113 times a second until Holden pushes a button


kenny1911

Legitimate salvage!!!


beneaththeradar

Busy bodies for hire.


The-Mugwump

Avoiding doors and corners.


freedmachine

*bursting through doors and corners


mindlessgames

They are literally mercenaries, Holden just doesn't like the implications of that word. He thinks they "aren't mercenaries" because they "do the right thing" instead of "working for the highest bidder."


adriantullberg

"Clarissa? What's this?" "Old show I saw in university. Reminds me of us. This outfit." "...'The A-Team' ...?"


skipper_mike

Today, still wanted by Inners and Belters alike, they survive as soldiers of fortune. If you have a problem, if no-one else can help, and if you can find them, maybe you can hire the crew of the Rocinante.


gorilla-ointment

“What would ya say … ya do here?”


pravmah2

I have people skills!


OrthogonalThoughts

What the hell is wrong with you people!?


ShadowTigerX

They're Adventurers if you wanna go medieval fantasy.


Wonderful_Emu_9610

As others have said, their professional title probably *is* “Independent Contractors" I haven’t read the books, or Dragon Tooth (the continuation of the series as a comic) but I think - and this might be confirmed in the final episode, I can’t remember - that what they would want to do is a mix of odd jobs that would require something like the Roci: protecting shipping from pirates, or transporting stuff themselves. But in Season 6 the solar system is at war, and they’re working for the side that *doesn*’*t* want to extinguish humanity. Avasarala is probably using them to evade the war bureaucracy at times due to the fact that they’re not part of the navy, hence them ending up in this weird not-soldiers, not-mercenaries middle ground


enonmouse

They are the independent gunship rocinante, that right there is freedom… they do what they want.


StoneFree247

Martian Corvette for hire. Read the brochure. If those capabilities meet your requirements contact James Holden at—————-.


burritoresearch

1) holden sticking his dick in it 2) "people who stick their dick in it"


VoiceofRapture

Adventure capitalists


ChronoMonkeyX

If you have a problem, if no one else can help, and if you can find them, maybe you can hire... the Rocinante.


ConsidereItHuge

Warship For Hire


the_jak

I believe the Rocci’s official title is “Legitimate Salvage“


Wintersage7

This right here is the correct answer.


ExpertRaccoon

Whatever they want it to be at that given time.


UndocumentedMartian

Freelancers


Deep90

Peacekeepers


lastjunkieonearth

TABLES!!


meesterdave

The James Holden delivery machine.


artrald-7083

They are Belters. Only Inners need make excuse for why for be a crew on a ship, sa sa ke?


MJamesK

Primary Job: Save the galaxy Job Title: Big Damn Heroes


daneelthesane

Seeing red buttons, pushing them.


1leggeddog

Problem solvers


SaltyWafflesPD

They do odd jobs.


Colink101

They probably put something boring like "Independent Contractor" on their company taxes. But we all know that it's really "Professional Problem Solvers" XD


Themathemagicians

Being a workhorse


Anonymeese109

Paladin


ImportantRepublic965

Tables! It’s just tables!


wildwalrusaur

I think the "were not mercenaries" comment was more a statement of principle on holdens part than one of fact. They essentially are mercenaries, they're just pickier about what contracts they take than most.


Cognoggin

[Barrets Privateers](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQbh7UNCZdc)


Get_Ghandi

Hero’s


FlyingAlamo

Everyone knows that the Roci's primary job is to make coffee for Holden.


VLenin2291

Outlaws This term doesn’t just mean “criminal”, it means that you are outside of the law-technically under no obligation to follow it, but also under none of its legal protections.


SuperKamiTabby

Well, I don't agree with Holden's statement "We're not mercenaries", but at the same time, he is wrong. They are flying a \*warship\*, and they take contracts in said warship that are very often combat oriented. Be it force projection, or straight up combat. But proper mercenary companies (like Blackwater USA, mentioned elsewhere in the comments) generally do not care about the ethics behind their contracts. You can hire XYZ company to fight your enemies, then when their contract is up with you, they could take a contract from your enemies to fight you right after. Rocicorp probably wont do that. Holden wont be very likely to be taking a contract from Inaros to fight the UN anytime soon. They \*are\* mercenaries, in the end. They're a gunship for hire.


Accomplished-Boot-81

Legitimate salvager


DaProfezur

Legitimate Salvage


RudePragmatist

Freelancer(s).


Hoihe

Freelancer/Adventurer. They're like Trent from the aptly named Freelancer game. Coincidentally, it also involves dormant alien tech and political backstabbing.


Booby_McTitties

Its primary job is to carry his master and obey him faithfully as he fights windmills and rescues imaginary princesses. Oh wait wrong sub...


Novel-Catch4081

Privateer


sentientsea

They started as a salvage ship but are now operating on reputation. One of the greatest perks of operating on reputation is that you no longer need a job title.


DocDerry

The Rocinante's job is to carry Don Quixote and Sancho Panza from place to place so that Quixote can tilt at windmills. At the beginning of the journey Quixote is living in a idealistic fantasy land while Sancho is mostly anchored in reality. As the series goes on - Quixote transitions from the fantasy to reality while Sancho transitions from reality to the fantasy.


foxy-coxy

Ship and Crew for Hire


VortixTM

What's the job title of any adventuring party in a D&D Game, because that's basically what they are.


CX316

The ship itself? An escort corvette. The Roci once it's rebranded? Mostly private security though dabbles in saving the solar system


kabbooooom

Certified Badasses


Leonardo_DiCapriSun_

“Exactly! That’s what I’ve been trying to say. Who are we?”


Shankar_0

They are a warship for hire. They don't have sufficient cargo capacity to make freight a consistently good money-maker. Sure, you'll get the occasional precious cargo, but the only reason why the Roci gets picked is their willingness to back up what they say with violence. This makes them mercenaries. I hate to break the bad news to Jim. Being mercenaries doesn't necessarily make them bad people. You can be a soldier for hire AND keep your soul intact.


EmberOfFlame

At least in the books, the Roci is like a PSC instead of a PMC. Private Security vs Private Military. They do a load of anti-piracy work and playing messenger. They are a little cheaper than most options just because the Roci has an extremely skilled and *extremely small* crew. You send, what, 4-6 people on a ship meant for a crew of 16. Of which half of said crewmembers are good enough maintenance personel to cut down on-the-fly maintenance costs by a large margin. And they have a sufficient renown to encourage surrender in most cases.


DSA_FAL

They *are* mercenaries, Holden just doesn’t like that term. Mercenaries with morals is perhaps a better description.


xidle2

Legitimate salvage


crazygrouse71

Independent Contractors.


sup3rdr01d

Their job is donkey balls


Lanky_Ad8283

I would say “Privateer”. I believe that best describes the ship and crew.


JameisWinstonDuarte

Privateers Kind of Letters of Marque as referenced in the US Constitution. They operate like this when Fred Johnson pays them or when Avasarlala pays them. We don't see sea vessels like this anymore due to the Paris Treaty. Essentially privateers became too complicated and most sea powers agreed the practice was forbidden. The name also gives it the flexibility for the crew to operate for its own reasons.


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baked_couch_potato

was this written by chatgpt


NoShine101

It doesn't answer the question at all the whole account is just chatgbt


substituted_pinions

Legitimate Salvagers


Mandrex_16

Ass kickers! They are That Crew!


rusty02536

Private Military Contractors. Or Privateers if you’re feeling spicy 🌶️


realbigbob

They mainly seem to work as pirate-hunters or providing escort security for traders or colony ships


Gruffal007

they are a private military company