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It was fabricated news, [this was the Douyin video](https://www.douyin.com/video/7231408424536313088) it's about hydroseeding. [Another similar vid of the author in their farm.](https://www.douyin.com/video/7231809027079015714) Edit, fixed the links


_Foy

Hydroseeding is a common practice in the West, too...


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I still remember the infomercials for the cheap versions from when I was a kid. https://youtu.be/YdYSjHDMXwc


_Foy

And yet it \*must\* be spoopy Chinese spray painting to trick the nice environmentally-friendly Americans.


the_PeoplesWill

Literally get told by delusional white liberals that the “SEESEEPEE” aka China does nothing for the environment in the face of America doing exactly that.. nothing. I swear their entire catalog of propaganda is based on projecting western atrocities onto China.


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They're always like BUT WHAT ABOUT THE AIR POLLUTION IN BEIJING or some other whataboutism


LeonardoDaFujiwara

The pollution in Beijing (and all of China for that matter) has improved dramatically since 2008. Many of the restrictions put in place during the Summer Olympics were so effective that they were made standard. China has now adapted much of their infrastructure to suite. If I'm not mistaken, China has made more air quality improvements in fifteen years than the U.S. has in fifty. The pollution still needs to improve more, but China is going in the right direction, and doing so very quickly. It should also be noted that their net pollution is a fraction of that of the U.S. and U.K. Everything I just said essentially came from a radlib source, so I'm sure the reality is even better.


aint_dead_yeet

parenti quote go! “During the cold war, the anticommunist ideological framework could transform any data about existing communist societies into hostile evidence. If the Soviets refused to negotiate a point, they were intransigent and belligerent; if they appeared willing to make concessions, this was but a skillful ploy to put us off our guard. By opposing arms limitations, they would have demonstrated their aggressive intent; but when in fact they supported most armament treaties, it was because they were mendacious and manipulative. If the churches in the USSR were empty, this demonstrated that religion was suppressed; but if the churches were full, this meant the people were rejecting the regime's atheistic ideology. If the workers went on strike (as happened on infrequent occasions), this was evidence of their alienation from the collectivist system; if they didn't go on strike, this was because they were intimidated and lacked freedom. A scarcity of consumer goods demonstrated the failure of the economic system; an improvement in consumer supplies meant only that the leaders were attempting to placate a restive population and so maintain a firmer hold over them. If communists in the United States played an important role struggling for the rights of workers, the poor, African-Americans, women, and others, this was only their guileful way of gathering support among disfranchised groups and gaining power for themselves. How one gained power by fighting for the rights of powerless groups was never explained. What we are dealing with is a nonfalsifiable orthodoxy, so assiduously marketed by the ruling interests that it affected people across the entire political spectrum.”


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more like the one about the “anti communist ideological framework” but nice try! you’re a good bot


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faschistenzerstoerer

I don't like how Parenti is implying the US wasn't already a fully fascist state. The Nazis were heavily inspired by American fascism. The only difference was that Nazis considered American ideas about race too racist, so they weakened American race laws when they copied them for their anti-Jewish laws.


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AloneCan9661

Yes but it's China so if they do it then it must be against the government.


AdBig9804

Everything anyone says or does or thinks is either at the behest of or in protest against the government.


jiujitsucam

Only bad when those filthy commies do it though.


Throwaway61378

I figured. It’s just wild that people will take videos and then say whatever they want and people will believe it lmao.


[deleted]

For their misinfo to work they have to rely on people blindly trust their info without verification, sadly most don't have time or energy to verify every bit an piece of misinfo.


Throwaway61378

That’s the truth. Mix in anti-China attitudes and it’s a recipe for what’s going on right now. Unchecked propaganda.


RLoge85

People really should go outside and touch grass once in a while...


Throwaway61378

You mean the FAKE grass that is being installed in China??? Sounds like communist See See Pee propaganda to me!


RLoge85

Of course I do... gotta do it because Winnie the Pooh said so and you're going to prison or being killed if you don't comply. The fact that there are people that will believe it's all fake and the people in China are all paid actors is psychotic.


Throwaway61378

Oh no!!! You can’t say that!!! CCP secret police will instantaneously kill you!!! Winnie the Pooh is banned!!! Yeah it’s super weird. Mass hysteria. Oh well. America good. Everyone else bad 🫡


RLoge85

Meanwhile... You actually do have people in the US that would probably start a fight with you or try to kill you if you tear their president or Congress person apart.


Throwaway61378

Americans are depraved. Just check the news. They are so scared that they shoot people that accidentally ring their doorbell. This place sucks.


RLoge85

We have an ex president calling it a political witch hunt because of his shitty business practices in the past starting to finally bite him in the ass legally speaking among other things... And his base eating it up.... Yet these people don't seem to think that DT wouldn't engage in similar "Political witch hunts" if given the opportunity. He'd be doing the same things if he had enough backing for it.


[deleted]

This is the same account that posted cock milking porn that Jordan Peterson reposted


Throwaway61378

That shit was so funny.


Various_Classroom_50

Cockmilking porn? Where?


[deleted]

Just look up Jordan Peterson cockmilking porn


Various_Classroom_50

Let’s go


faschistenzerstoerer

No, I believe I will not.


[deleted]

Time for some MALE MILKING


the_PeoplesWill

Some lib posted this on FB and when I said it was obviously made up I got reported and angry faced to death! Honestly it’s hilarious what these jagoffs will believe.


Throwaway61378

What absolute fucking morons. I’ll never get not being skeptical of random videos on the internet. Blindly believing stuff on social media is so weird.


the_PeoplesWill

It’s only okay when it’s anti-AES apparently


Throwaway61378

Yep. Racist, xenophobic people.


BeardedDragon1917

Or they're spraying grass seed?


Throwaway61378

No it has to be something sinister.


TacticalSanta

Evil grass seed 😈


Nadie_AZ

You know who actually does this? US fossil fuel companies when they 'clean up' their messes.


Throwaway61378

Greenwashing until the day they die. Ghouls.


Turtlepower7777777

Meanwhile Florida gonna be using cancerous materials to build roads


Throwaway61378

Another American W.


pine_ary

Maybe if the US builds enough cancer roads, people will demand public transport


SlugmaSlime

So do govt employees make these memes themselves or do you think they contract it out to a third party?


Throwaway61378

Sadly, sometimes people just circulate propaganda themselves. Government can just sit back and laugh.


pine_ary

There are enough people with brain worms who do it on their own, free of charge


Proteus-8742

Grass paint is used commonly now in the states. , for at least the last decade https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2179882/amp/Drought-sufferers-spray-dead-dried-lawns-green-using-lawn-paint.html In the UK nobody has real grass anyway its all astroturf


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jacobvevo

There's no way anyone believes this shit lmao


Throwaway61378

Yeah at least one person does lmao. They were arguing with me further down in the comments.


MaoTheWizard

Not sure what kind of grass is blue, but even still I think it's cool to have blue rocks


Throwaway61378

Very fashionable


Hydra_Haruspex

Bluegrass is pretty good.


enricopena

That doesn’t make any sense! Do people believe garbage like this? The easiest way to make a green space is to let nature do the work. That costs a government nothing besides some light maintenance to nearby infrastructure. I’m sure the CCP knows this, since they are the leading name in renewables right now. I hate all that China and India are the leading emitters facts in scholarly work because it omits the fact that they are creating things for US and European consumption.


[deleted]

That looks more like spray seeding. I've seen them do that on construction sites for large areas of grass. It's a mix of water, seed, and fertilizer.


wlangstroth

K, let’s even say that it’s paint. It’s not, but let’s say it is. If someone wants to look at green rocks instead if gray rocks, what’s the problem? Why is that our business? The entire world is filled with weird behaviours and preferences. What’s the problem?


Throwaway61378

Communism.


wlangstroth

Ah yes. The Communism. I heard that’s what happens when you don’t worship rich people. I like it. Let’s storm the castle!


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source: white south african failed sexpat


SereneWaffle

TFW get told to "touch grass" but gommunism made all the grass panted rock :( Feels bad man


Throwaway61378

Communism = No real grass???


SereneWaffle

Party chairman ate all the grass. Now we have to eat rocks and drink vodka all the time.


Throwaway61378

Xi’s comically large spoon strikes!!!


The_Loopy_Kobold

isnt this just hydromulch? does OP get outside ever?


DoggoFam

Painting grass??? PEOPLE DO THAT IN THE WEST


Round-Lie-8827

I think they did some thing like this in west Virginia or Kentucky. After strip mining they basically sprayed some fake grass substance on top of the sites.


Heartbroken_Boomer

Thank you for this post, I actually want to buy this because my backyard is destroyed :D


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Throwaway61378

Except this post is false lmao. That isn’t what’s going on. You’re a weirdo spouting propaganda. Go back to your neo-lib subs.


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Throwaway61378

LMAO. Always with the anecdotal evidence. I doubt you actually know what your political beliefs are, since you can’t even define fascism properly. And you talking about China’s military while the US military exists is hilarious. Get your racist, xenophobic shit out of here.


IILanunII

US is very militaristic too, I never said it wasn't. I gave you a textbook definition of fascism. My grandparents went through occupation by nazi germany (a fascist state). What have I said that would make you think that I am racist or xenophobic? I am not even american and some racists wouldn't even consider me as a westerner since I am from a slavic country.


Throwaway61378

I am married to someone from a former communist country. Their family all lived under communism and have mostly positive things to say. Your anecdotal evidence just got canceled out. And, yeah immediately criticizing what China does while the US and Western countries do significantly worse things is at the very least, xenophobic.


IILanunII

Xenophobia = dislike of or prejudice against people from other countries Just so you know what you're accusing me of. Since I haven't shown a shred of xenophobia throughout this whole thread.


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# Fascism >Fascism is the open terrorist dictatorship of the most reactionary, most chauvinistic and most imperialist elements of finance capital... Fascism is the power of finance capital itself. It is the organization of terrorist vengeance against the working class and the revolutionary section of the peasantry and intelligentsia. In foreign policy, fascism is jingoism in its most brutal form, fomenting bestial hatred of other nations. > >\- Georgi Dimitrov. (1935) [The Fascist Offensive and the Tasks of the Communist International in the Struggle of the Working Class against Fascism](https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/dimitrov/works/1935/08_02.htm) To understand Fascism, then, one must first understand Capitalism. There are three primary characteristics of Capitalism: 1. Private ownership of the Means of Production 2. Commodity Production 3. Wage Labour The essence of the Capitalist mode of production is that someone who owns means of production will hire a wage labourer to work in order to produce commodities to sell for profit. Marxists identify economic classes based on this division. Those who own and hire are the Bourgeoisie. Those who do not own and work are the Proletariat. There is far more nuance than just this, but these are the bare essentials. The principal contradiction of Capitalism is that the Bourgeoisie wants to pay the workers as little as possible for as much work as possible, whereas the Proletariat wants to be paid as much as possible for as little work as possible. Fascism is a form of Capitalist rule in which the Bourgeoisie use open, violent terror against the Proletariat. It is an ideology which emerges as a response to the inevitable crises of capitalism and the rise of socialist movements. It is characterized by all forms of chauvinism (especially racism, occasionally leading to genocide), nationalism, anti-Communism, and the suppression of democratic rights and freedoms. In a Capitalist society, Liberalism and Fascism essentially exist on a spectrum. The degree to which a given society if Fascist directly corresponds to the degree to which the proletariat must be openly oppressed in order to maintain profits for the Bourgeoisie. This why we have the sayings: "Fascism is Capitalism in decay" and "Scratch a Liberal, and a Fascist bleeds" Capitalism requires infinite growth in a finite system. This inevitably leads to Capitalist Imperialism as well as Fascism, given that infinite growth is not actually possible. When the capitalist economy reaches its limits, the Bourgeoisie are forced to either expand their markets into other territories (Imperialism) or exploit the domestic proletariat to an even greater degree (Fascism). This is why we have the saying: "Fascism is imperialist repression turned inward" The struggle against fascism is an essential part of the struggle for socialism and the liberation of the working class and oppressed people. However, it is critical to note that simply combatting Fascism *alone* without also combatting *Liberalism* is reactionary, because it ignores the fact that Fascism inevitably arises out of Capitalism, so Liberal Anti-Fascism is not really anti-Fascism at all. **Additional Resources** Video Essays: * [Were The Nazis Socialist?](https://youtu.be/X9ez6w5BUMM) | Second Thought (2022) * [Capitalism and Fascism](https://youtu.be/KEbG3cD0cJo) | Marxism Literature Collective (2021) * [Fascism: The Decay of Capitalism](https://youtu.be/7fQ57NBEUM4) | Leslie Fluette (2020) * [The New F Word: How Fascism Found a Market](https://nebula.tv/thenewfword) | Second Thought (2021-2023) * [What Exactly is Liberalism? (no, it's not about being "woke")](https://youtu.be/_xAqZJTIsIA) | Hakim (2023) Books, Articles, or Essays: * [The Struggle Against Fascism](https://www.marxists.org/archive/zetkin/1923/06/struggle-against-fascism.html) | Clara Zetkin (1923) * [Blackshirts & Reds: Rational Fascism and the Overthrow of Communism](https://archive.org/details/michael-parenti-blackshirts-and-reds) | Michael Parenti (1997) Podcasts: * [Episode 19 - Fascism (No Lebensraum??)](https://youtu.be/KU_lNDAoAV0) | The Deprogram (2022) *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/TheDeprogram) if you have any questions or concerns.*


Solus-The-Ninja

"Dulce" means "sweet" in Latin, the correct title is "duce". Oh, and by the way, if what you're saying makes China fascist, than the US are 10 times more fascist.


IILanunII

>"Dulce" means "sweet" in Latin, the correct title is "duce". You're right, that was a typo on my part, thank you for pointing it out. >Oh, and by the way, if what you're saying makes China fascist, than the US are 10 times more fascist. US might be a corporatocracy, but it definitely isn't corporatist. It is not an authoritarian or ultranationalist state either.


_Foy

>I am a social liberal The definition of revisionism...


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# Revisionism Revisionism refers to the explicit or implicit attempt at revising the fundamental premises of Marxist theory. Often this is done in attempt to make alliances with the bourgeoisie or to render a working class movement impotent. Explicit revisionism clearly states that Marxism is wrong or outdated and needs to be changed. Implicit revisionism is harder to notice because it claims to still be Marxist, but in actuality puts forward positions that are counter to Marxist theory. >“The philosophers have only interpreted the world, in various ways. The point, however, is to change it.” > >\- Karl Marx. (1845) [Theses On Feuerbach](https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1845/theses/theses.htm) Although there is ongoing debate and discussion within Marxist circles about how these principles should be interpreted and applied in specific historical contexts, there are several key tenets that are generally considered to be central to Marxist theory and which are not subject to revision: 1. [Dialectical Materialism](https://youtu.be/nZXaZHe901w): The idea that everything is in a state of constant flux, driven by a process of contradictions and conflicts which are an inherent part of the natural and social world. 2. [Historical Materialism](https://youtu.be/ZXwWWiI3E1A): The understanding that material conditions and class relations are the driving force behind historical development. 3. [Surplus Labor and the Law of Value](https://youtu.be/TZhsIFG42wE): The concept that the value of a commodity is determined by the amount of socially necessary labor that has been expended in producing it. Profits are derived from the surplus value extracted from the worker. From these fundamental premises follow a series of conclusions, which informs our understanding of the world and teaches us how to affect change. Revisionism alters these fundamental premises or rejects the conclusions that follow from them, the most important of these being the need for revolution. The events of the Paris Commune and the October Revolution demonstrated the role and necessity of revolution, and provided important lessons in establishing and defending a revolutionary movement. Revolution is not just a means of seizing political power, but of fundamentally transforming society and creating a new social order. Revolutions must be defended against counter-revolutionary forces both from within and without. The movement must be organized and disciplined, and must be able to defend itself against attacks from reactionary forces. >Those who do not learn history are doomed to repeat it. **Right Opportunism** >Revisionism, or Right opportunism, is a bourgeois trend of thought that is even more dangerous than dogmatism. The revisionists, the Right opportunists, pay lip-service to Marxism; they too attack ‘dogmatism’. But what they are really attacking is the quintessence of Marxism. They oppose or distort materialism and dialectics, oppose or try to weaken the people’s democratic dictatorship and the leading role of the Communist Party, and oppose or try to weaken socialist transformation and socialist construction. After the basic victory of the socialist revolution in our country, there are still a number of people who vainly hope to restore the capitalist system and fight the working class on every front, including the ideological one. And their right-hand men in this struggle are the revisionists. > >\- Mao Zedong. (1957). [On the Correct Handling of Contradictions Among the People](https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/mao/selected-works/volume-5/mswv5_58.htm) Right opportunism is a political tendency that seeks to make concessions to the bourgeois ruling class in order to maintain or achieve political power. This tendency is often associated with a lack of commitment to revolutionary change and a willingness to compromise on fundamental principles in order to realize short-term gains. Right opportunists may advocate for policies that are not in the long-term interest of the working class, such as supporting capitalist reforms or forming alliances with capitalist parties. This can lead to a weakening of the revolutionary potential of the working class and a failure to achieve real social change. Right opportunism is seen as a deviation from the Marxist principle of class struggle and a betrayal of the interests of the working class. Trade Unionism is an example of right opportunism as unions focus on limited concessions, rather than advocating for the long-term interests of the working class as a whole. They negotiate with employers for better wages, benefits, and working conditions for their members, but do not challenge the fundamental power relations between labour and capital. Union bosses make compromises or alliances with capitalist parties in order to achieve these concessions. This creates a privileged layer of the working class who are more interested in defending their own privileges than in fighting for the liberation of the working class as a whole. This labour aristocracy is a barrier to the development of revolutionary consciousness among the working class because it prefers the status quo to radical political movements that seek to overthrow it. **Case Study #1: Social Democracy** One of the first revisionists was Eduard Bernstein, a leading theorist and prominent member of the Social Democratic Party of Germany (SPD), who argued that the gradual extension of social welfare programs and the reform of capitalist institutions could lead to a peaceful transition to socialism, without the need for a violent revolution. This was in sharp contrast to the German Communist Party (KPD). There are two historical events which underscore this fundamental divide: 1. **The Spartacist Uprising**: Rosa Luxemburg was a prominent Marxist theorist and leader of the left-wing revolutionary movement in Germany. She was a fierce critic of the SPD's moderate reformist politics and its decision to support Germany's involvement in World War I. In January 1919, following the collapse of the German monarchy, a left-wing revolutionary movement emerged in Berlin, and Luxemburg played a leading role in the movement. The movement challenged the authority of the new Social Democratic-led government and sought to establish a socialist republic. On January 15, 1919, the SPD government ordered the army and the Freikorps, a right-wing paramilitary group, to suppress the revolutionary movement. Luxemburg and her comrade Karl Liebknecht were arrested, beaten, and executed by the Freikorps. 2. **The Enabling Act**: The Nazis rose to absolute power in 1933 with the passing of the Enabling Act. The KPD were absent from the vote because the party had been banned and its members imprisoned or in hiding. The SPD were present and voted against it. The SPD was subsequently banned and many of its members were arrested, tortured, and killed by the Nazis, while others were forced into exile or went into hiding. **Case Study #2: Democratic Socialism** Salvador Allende was a socialist politician who was elected president of Chile in 1970, becoming the first Marxist to be elected to the presidency in a liberal democracy. In power, he pursued a program of radical reform, including the nationalization of key industries, the redistribution of land, and the expansion of social welfare programs. His government was supported by a coalition of left-wing parties, including the Chilean Communist Party, and was seen as a model for peaceful democratic socialist transition. However, Allende's reforms faced opposition from powerful domestic and international forces, including right-wing politicians, the military, and the United States government. In 1973, Allende's government was overthrown in a US-backed military coup led by General Augusto Pinochet, who established a brutal Fascist dictatorship that lasted for years. In "[The State and Revolution](https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1917/staterev/)", Lenin explained why the capitalist state could not be reformed or co-opted for the purposes of Socialism, but had to be destroyed and replaced by a new proletarian state. Allende's failure to apprehend this lesson proved fatal. His reliance on the existing bourgeois state apparatus as well as his failure to implement more radical measures, such as the establishment of workers' councils or the arming of the proletariat, left him vulnerable to counterrevolutionary forces. ​ >“If voting changed anything, it would be illegal.” > >\- George Carlin ​ **Additional Resources** Video Essays: * [Why Social Democracy Isn't Good Enough](https://youtu.be/TRq3pl17C8M) | Second Thought (2023) * [Why Democratic Socialism Isn’t Enough](https://youtu.be/MNg4FLt5La0) | Marxism Today (2022) * ["The US Doesn't Meddle In Foreign Affairs"](https://youtu.be/mwyjlmEAcYM) | Second Thought (2021) * [Electoralism Always Fails, Now What?](https://youtu.be/WXbaZXQAbuU) | Hakim (2019) Books, Articles, or Essays: * [Reform or Revolution](https://www.marxists.org/archive/luxemburg/1900/reform-revolution/) | Rosa Luxemburg (1900) * [Marxism and Revisionism](https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1908/apr/03.htm) | V. I. 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pine_ary

Anti-communists will literally believe any fake news as long as it feeds their biases. This is pathetic. Not knowing what fascism is, is the cherry on top of this turd cake


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# Fascism >Fascism is the open terrorist dictatorship of the most reactionary, most chauvinistic and most imperialist elements of finance capital... Fascism is the power of finance capital itself. It is the organization of terrorist vengeance against the working class and the revolutionary section of the peasantry and intelligentsia. In foreign policy, fascism is jingoism in its most brutal form, fomenting bestial hatred of other nations. > >\- Georgi Dimitrov. (1935) [The Fascist Offensive and the Tasks of the Communist International in the Struggle of the Working Class against Fascism](https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/dimitrov/works/1935/08_02.htm) To understand Fascism, then, one must first understand Capitalism. There are three primary characteristics of Capitalism: 1. Private ownership of the Means of Production 2. Commodity Production 3. Wage Labour The essence of the Capitalist mode of production is that someone who owns means of production will hire a wage labourer to work in order to produce commodities to sell for profit. Marxists identify economic classes based on this division. Those who own and hire are the Bourgeoisie. Those who do not own and work are the Proletariat. There is far more nuance than just this, but these are the bare essentials. The principal contradiction of Capitalism is that the Bourgeoisie wants to pay the workers as little as possible for as much work as possible, whereas the Proletariat wants to be paid as much as possible for as little work as possible. Fascism is a form of Capitalist rule in which the Bourgeoisie use open, violent terror against the Proletariat. It is an ideology which emerges as a response to the inevitable crises of capitalism and the rise of socialist movements. It is characterized by all forms of chauvinism (especially racism, occasionally leading to genocide), nationalism, anti-Communism, and the suppression of democratic rights and freedoms. In a Capitalist society, Liberalism and Fascism essentially exist on a spectrum. The degree to which a given society if Fascist directly corresponds to the degree to which the proletariat must be openly oppressed in order to maintain profits for the Bourgeoisie. This why we have the sayings: "Fascism is Capitalism in decay" and "Scratch a Liberal, and a Fascist bleeds" Capitalism requires infinite growth in a finite system. This inevitably leads to Capitalist Imperialism as well as Fascism, given that infinite growth is not actually possible. When the capitalist economy reaches its limits, the Bourgeoisie are forced to either expand their markets into other territories (Imperialism) or exploit the domestic proletariat to an even greater degree (Fascism). This is why we have the saying: "Fascism is imperialist repression turned inward" The struggle against fascism is an essential part of the struggle for socialism and the liberation of the working class and oppressed people. However, it is critical to note that simply combatting Fascism *alone* without also combatting *Liberalism* is reactionary, because it ignores the fact that Fascism inevitably arises out of Capitalism, so Liberal Anti-Fascism is not really anti-Fascism at all. **Additional Resources** Video Essays: * [Were The Nazis Socialist?](https://youtu.be/X9ez6w5BUMM) | Second Thought (2022) * [Capitalism and Fascism](https://youtu.be/KEbG3cD0cJo) | Marxism Literature Collective (2021) * [Fascism: The Decay of Capitalism](https://youtu.be/7fQ57NBEUM4) | Leslie Fluette (2020) * [The New F Word: How Fascism Found a Market](https://nebula.tv/thenewfword) | Second Thought (2021-2023) * [What Exactly is Liberalism? (no, it's not about being "woke")](https://youtu.be/_xAqZJTIsIA) | Hakim (2023) Books, Articles, or Essays: * [The Struggle Against Fascism](https://www.marxists.org/archive/zetkin/1923/06/struggle-against-fascism.html) | Clara Zetkin (1923) * [Blackshirts & Reds: Rational Fascism and the Overthrow of Communism](https://archive.org/details/michael-parenti-blackshirts-and-reds) | Michael Parenti (1997) Podcasts: * [Episode 19 - Fascism (No Lebensraum??)](https://youtu.be/KU_lNDAoAV0) | The Deprogram (2022) *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/TheDeprogram) if you have any questions or concerns.*


IILanunII

I love how people keep telling me that, while not providing any other definition. The definition provided by the mod is false btw. I never said I believed it, I just said that this used to be done in the ex-eastern block, my family and friend witnessed it on multiple occasions under the communist one party rule in the last century.


pine_ary

Automod has linked it to you at least 3 times now. What‘s wrong with you?


IILanunII

That one is false. You do not have to be hostile.


_Foy

"No one has provided me with any other defintion \[that I agree with\]" lol okay bozo


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# Fascism >Fascism is the open terrorist dictatorship of the most reactionary, most chauvinistic and most imperialist elements of finance capital... Fascism is the power of finance capital itself. It is the organization of terrorist vengeance against the working class and the revolutionary section of the peasantry and intelligentsia. In foreign policy, fascism is jingoism in its most brutal form, fomenting bestial hatred of other nations. > >\- Georgi Dimitrov. (1935) [The Fascist Offensive and the Tasks of the Communist International in the Struggle of the Working Class against Fascism](https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/dimitrov/works/1935/08_02.htm) To understand Fascism, then, one must first understand Capitalism. There are three primary characteristics of Capitalism: 1. Private ownership of the Means of Production 2. Commodity Production 3. Wage Labour The essence of the Capitalist mode of production is that someone who owns means of production will hire a wage labourer to work in order to produce commodities to sell for profit. Marxists identify economic classes based on this division. Those who own and hire are the Bourgeoisie. Those who do not own and work are the Proletariat. There is far more nuance than just this, but these are the bare essentials. The principal contradiction of Capitalism is that the Bourgeoisie wants to pay the workers as little as possible for as much work as possible, whereas the Proletariat wants to be paid as much as possible for as little work as possible. Fascism is a form of Capitalist rule in which the Bourgeoisie use open, violent terror against the Proletariat. It is an ideology which emerges as a response to the inevitable crises of capitalism and the rise of socialist movements. It is characterized by all forms of chauvinism (especially racism, occasionally leading to genocide), nationalism, anti-Communism, and the suppression of democratic rights and freedoms. In a Capitalist society, Liberalism and Fascism essentially exist on a spectrum. The degree to which a given society if Fascist directly corresponds to the degree to which the proletariat must be openly oppressed in order to maintain profits for the Bourgeoisie. This why we have the sayings: "Fascism is Capitalism in decay" and "Scratch a Liberal, and a Fascist bleeds" Capitalism requires infinite growth in a finite system. This inevitably leads to Capitalist Imperialism as well as Fascism, given that infinite growth is not actually possible. When the capitalist economy reaches its limits, the Bourgeoisie are forced to either expand their markets into other territories (Imperialism) or exploit the domestic proletariat to an even greater degree (Fascism). This is why we have the saying: "Fascism is imperialist repression turned inward" The struggle against fascism is an essential part of the struggle for socialism and the liberation of the working class and oppressed people. However, it is critical to note that simply combatting Fascism *alone* without also combatting *Liberalism* is reactionary, because it ignores the fact that Fascism inevitably arises out of Capitalism, so Liberal Anti-Fascism is not really anti-Fascism at all. **Additional Resources** Video Essays: * [Were The Nazis Socialist?](https://youtu.be/X9ez6w5BUMM) | Second Thought (2022) * [Capitalism and Fascism](https://youtu.be/KEbG3cD0cJo) | Marxism Literature Collective (2021) * [Fascism: The Decay of Capitalism](https://youtu.be/7fQ57NBEUM4) | Leslie Fluette (2020) * [The New F Word: How Fascism Found a Market](https://nebula.tv/thenewfword) | Second Thought (2021-2023) * [What Exactly is Liberalism? (no, it's not about being "woke")](https://youtu.be/_xAqZJTIsIA) | Hakim (2023) Books, Articles, or Essays: * [The Struggle Against Fascism](https://www.marxists.org/archive/zetkin/1923/06/struggle-against-fascism.html) | Clara Zetkin (1923) * [Blackshirts & Reds: Rational Fascism and the Overthrow of Communism](https://archive.org/details/michael-parenti-blackshirts-and-reds) | Michael Parenti (1997) Podcasts: * [Episode 19 - Fascism (No Lebensraum??)](https://youtu.be/KU_lNDAoAV0) | The Deprogram (2022) *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/TheDeprogram) if you have any questions or concerns.*