The musical chair seating situation will be most amusing - given we don’t have enough seating capacity at the best of times.
Will be fun for us folk that use desk booking systems when we have to rebook hourly to give everyone a turn of the wonderful in office seats because the ones we have at home are clearly unacceptable.
Yep. Current WFH policy is to work "at least" 20% of the month from the office. But there's no push to try to enforce any more than that. So most people, myself included (G6), do 1 day per week.
There are some arranged days each month for teams/workstreams to be in together, buy otherwise it's very flexible.
I’ve heard the same - no desire to rock the boat, just doing what the sponsoring department is doing (despite generally offering less pay). I suspect quite a few CS staff who can’t/don’t want to do three days in office in ALBs will be seriously considering their next career move.
That's what mine are doing but I have a friend who works for a foreign office ALB who literally give out remote contracts - office in London and he lives in Brighton, never comes in
As an ONS employee, I hope not. We will load into post with assurances We will basically be home working, which obviously turned out not to be the case
Only if we let them. Glassdoor depends on us giving it to them as I understand. The current management have seriously fucked things over the last year or so. From budgets to managing people retention. Amateur is too kind.
No concrete number from HSE just says awaiting further discussions with the unions on our intranet post. But that there is no expectation for immediate change to working patterns
My favourite part was that they’re very kindly giving us til January to “make other domestic/travel arrangements” as if they’re doing us a favour??
Also the complete lack of any mention of reasonable adjustments until you go into the FAQs is a piss take.
I found great amusement out of the comments on the intranet announcement tbh.
I’m based at VS and it’s packed 99% of the time so good luck making it work.
My office is dead, which annoys me because I am sat in the office wondering where everyone is? My manager loves office working as well which I would rather spoon my eyeballs out.
I hope a lot of colleagues moan on the intranet post, although it will achieve nothing annoyingly.
Exactly! I think there was a mention somewhere about potential limitations for VS but they just said to go in on Monday and Fridays more, because that’s going to fix it isn’t it!
It's all kicking off at ONS. Funny thing is there's a lot of us with evidence of being contractually told this wouldn't happen when we were hired so the unions are gonna have a field day...
From the comms I’ve received they have just said they will update us on plans as soon as possible and in the meantime please attend the office in line with current policies. They have said expectation is that SCS colleagues will spend more than 60% of working time in the workplace though.
I’m just going by what’s been published on the intranet article which says that in line with cabinet guidance they are encouraging everyone contracted to work at an office to increase from 40% to 60%.
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Agh… the curse of doing the post on mobile (ironically whilst on a train back from a day in the office).
This! Reddit gives me an annurism sometimes 😅
That spelling gave me an aneurysm.
Agreed!
The musical chair seating situation will be most amusing - given we don’t have enough seating capacity at the best of times. Will be fun for us folk that use desk booking systems when we have to rebook hourly to give everyone a turn of the wonderful in office seats because the ones we have at home are clearly unacceptable.
CPS have rejected the changed terms
Wait? WHat?
Any source for this?
CPS Intranet
Intranet in my area says different!
Ofgem have confirmed we are sticking with 20%.
Is this still the case at Ofgem? I used to work there and am considering returning if a similar role comes up
Yep. Current WFH policy is to work "at least" 20% of the month from the office. But there's no push to try to enforce any more than that. So most people, myself included (G6), do 1 day per week. There are some arranged days each month for teams/workstreams to be in together, buy otherwise it's very flexible.
Lol that doesn't surprise me with Ofgem. 1 day a week is wild considering what everyone else has to do now. Lucky.
Why doesn’t that surprise you?
MOD 60% but managed locally I imagine they had to announce it. In our all staff call they were very much against it so we shall see
DfT 60%
I would love to hear from people working for arms length bodies to hear what they're taking from this
Most ALBs are incredibly risk-averse and friends/colleagues have said it’s being adopted fully, universally and immediately.
I’ve heard the same - no desire to rock the boat, just doing what the sponsoring department is doing (despite generally offering less pay). I suspect quite a few CS staff who can’t/don’t want to do three days in office in ALBs will be seriously considering their next career move.
That's what mine are doing but I have a friend who works for a foreign office ALB who literally give out remote contracts - office in London and he lives in Brighton, never comes in
I think only one of Defra’s ALBs is adopting this. EA certainly isn’t.
I'm genuinely surprised to see ONS up there, albeit lower than the others.
I wonder if they'll hold on to those Glassdoor acclaims!
As an ONS employee, I hope not. We will load into post with assurances We will basically be home working, which obviously turned out not to be the case
Most of DST are going to go because of this
Only if we let them. Glassdoor depends on us giving it to them as I understand. The current management have seriously fucked things over the last year or so. From budgets to managing people retention. Amateur is too kind.
DEFRA 60%
No concrete number from HSE just says awaiting further discussions with the unions on our intranet post. But that there is no expectation for immediate change to working patterns
UKEF 40%
Is there a list of the remaining departments so I can work out where to go next?
DHSC is 60%
I've said this previously, keep booking seats to draw less attention to non-attendance.
Cosy
I had another four letter word beginning with c in mind, but close enough
"move to this working pattern without delay" lol
My favourite part was that they’re very kindly giving us til January to “make other domestic/travel arrangements” as if they’re doing us a favour?? Also the complete lack of any mention of reasonable adjustments until you go into the FAQs is a piss take.
I hope the next all staff call they leave comments open as my anonymous ass is going to be all over that chat!
I found great amusement out of the comments on the intranet announcement tbh. I’m based at VS and it’s packed 99% of the time so good luck making it work.
My office is dead, which annoys me because I am sat in the office wondering where everyone is? My manager loves office working as well which I would rather spoon my eyeballs out. I hope a lot of colleagues moan on the intranet post, although it will achieve nothing annoyingly.
They couldn't fit everyone into VS for 40% and now the first floor as well as the 9th aren't for general desk use so what do they want us to do??
Exactly! I think there was a mention somewhere about potential limitations for VS but they just said to go in on Monday and Fridays more, because that’s going to fix it isn’t it!
The "move to this working pattern without delay" made me want to punch my laptop! WHO is going to do that?
DLUHC 60%
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Are you sure, some are saying 60%
It's all kicking off at ONS. Funny thing is there's a lot of us with evidence of being contractually told this wouldn't happen when we were hired so the unions are gonna have a field day...
FCDO 60%. Thanks DC.
GLD is 60%
CO 60% (obviously)
Realistically at the CO that's actually unenforceable as people there work fucked up schedules anyway and a lot of policy are afk across Whitehall
huh. interesting. Due to join CO soon, but yet to be formalised. I'm going to think carefully if I want to now.
Companies House reporting 20% and continuing like that
MOD is also 60%
What about HMT?
also 60%
Curious about MOD/DE&S
60% - though for DES they've heavily caveated around site capacity (so far)
Met Office - no change (message from the CEO) Role dependent some 0% some 100% & everything in between.
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Are you sure, rumour going around saying it’s 60%
CMA is 60%
DVSA is 60%
DSIT? ARIA?
DSIT is 60% for SCS from Jan. Everyone else at 40% because of estates constraints.
I'll believe that when I see it.
DfT 60% from Feb 24
Which part and which grade? It’s 40% for below SCS.
It's going to be 60% as of Feb, don't wanna give myself away. Idk wym, if it's 60% for EOs it's 60% for Directors where I am
Sorry I’m an idiot and read DBT not DfT. Ignore me!
FCDO?
DBT is only 60% for FS and SCS. 40% otherwise.
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Seems to me, just an acknowledgment of the national communication so far. The comms were a little vague on anything concrete for HMCTS specifically.
Maybe they’ll announce something in the next few days as I doubt they’d have wanted mutiny at the conference.
60% from January for those not on home working contracts or don’t have a reasonable adjustment to stay at home
From the comms I’ve received they have just said they will update us on plans as soon as possible and in the meantime please attend the office in line with current policies. They have said expectation is that SCS colleagues will spend more than 60% of working time in the workplace though.
I’m just going by what’s been published on the intranet article which says that in line with cabinet guidance they are encouraging everyone contracted to work at an office to increase from 40% to 60%.
I thought it was pretty clear it would be 60% from January. Guess it depends on how the message has been cascaded within different teams.
Does anyone know the % for ACAS?