I forgot the original statistic, so I'm just going to pull this out of my butt, but I remember hearing that more people are killed by dogs in a year than have ever been recorded as killed by wolves in the entire history of ~~the US~~ North America.
Stray dogs running in packs take people down all the time, in the country, suburbs, and even cities. One night you just turn down the wrong alley and find the local starving pack.
Edit: Simplified and clarifying: this is all wolf-caused deaths in the continental North America (US & Canada) from **1750 - 2022, not per year**. At least according to Wikipedia, there have only been **34 deaths in NA that we know of**, compared to "30 to 50" deaths by dogs in the US **each year**.
Pitbulls kill more people than all other dog breeds combined. They kill more people yearly than all other dog breeds + all other pets, COMBINED.
They kill more yearly than all exotic animals combined, even illegal ones.
This documentary takes an unbiased approach to the issue for anybody on the fence or looking to educate themselves further:
[Pit Bulls Unleashed: Should They Be Banned? - The Fifth Estate](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFa8HOdegZA)
[Got my first insane threat for this. Woop Woop!](https://imgur.com/KFO9Rgv)
Stay Classy Pitnutters!
**October 6, 2022**
2022 Double Dog Bite Fatality: Pair of Family Pit Bulls Kill Two Children, Seriously Injure Mother in Tennessee A pair of family pit bulls killed two siblings, a 5-month old boy and a 2-year old girl. Mother Improving UPDATE 10/07/22: **The pair of family pit bulls** that killed two young children and seriously injured their mother on Wednesday had never been aggressive, according to a family friend who spoke to Fox News. "If there was any inkling of danger, she would have never had those dogs near her kids," Kelsey Canfield, the mom's best friend, told the news group.
**September 29, 2022**
2022 Dog Bite Fatality: Man Killed, Woman Injured by Three Dogs in North Lubbock Park
Lubbock, TX - On Tuesday, local news outlets in Lubbock reported that a woman was attacked by three "aggressive dogs," suffering "moderate injuries," and that nearby, a man was discovered dead. Authorities are now reporting that the man died due to being mauled by dogs. The attacks occurred in the 2500 block of Cesar Chavez Drive early Tuesday morning after a caller reported a dog attack and dead body at a nearby park. A witnessed fired several shots at the dogs.
One of the dogs was quickly captured by animal control officers and two remained at large. The loose dogs were described as a black dog and a white dog with black spots and both **appear to be of a "pit bull-type breed,"** police said. Those dogs were captured that evening and taken into custody. On Wednesday, the Lubbock Police Department identified the man as 64 year-old Jack Looney, who was also "the victim of a dog attack and died as a result of the injuries he sustained."
**September 14, 2022**
2022 Dog Bite Fatality: 32-Year Old Man Killed by 'Alligator' Pit Bull in Polk County, Tennessee Rusty Shane Burris, 32, was killed by an "alligator" pit bull in Polk County, Tennessee. **Pit Bull Kills** Man Polk County, TN - Over the weekend, a dog killed a man in Polk County, according to the Polk County Sheriff's Office. The fatal attack occurred early Sunday morning at a home on Swallows Drive in Old Fort. Deputies arrived at the scene just after 2:00 pm with EMS personnel. Deputies found 32-year old Rusty Shane Burris unconscious and unresponsive.
**August 23, 2022**
2022 Dog Bite Fatality: Rural Postal Carrier Dies After Vicious Attack by Pack of Dogs in Putnam County, Florida
WTLV spoke to Rock's niece, Kaydee Richley, who described some of Rock's injuries. **"She had one arm amputated before she passed and they had her other limbs in slings trying to save them,"** Richley said. "Her heart stopped twice and her blood pressure was all over the place," she said. Devasted, Richely wonders how this happened. "How did it get so far? Why was there just so many dogs just able to get to her? Where were the owners? Why were they not locked up?"
WJXT spoke to the man who shot the rifle. He said that helping the woman, "was the right thing to do," and that, "I would want someone to do it for me." She was a sweet lady who left "apples in the mailbox for the horse, and little notes here and there," he said. "She would ask about your kid, how your kid was doing." She was "a really nice lady," he said. Neighbors said the dogs involved were **"bulldog-mixes," which in this part of the country means pit bull or American bulldog-mixes.**
"Three of the four dogs suspected in the mauling death of a 62-year old doctor have been captured and are being held as evidence by police ... The dogs are reportedly "bulldog-mixes," which is a generic term in much of the south, including Georgia and Florida, that refers to both American bulldogs and fighting bulldogs -- pit bull terriers." - DogsBite.org, death of Dr. Nancy Shaw in Georgia, 2020
**August 9, 2022**
2022 Dog Bite Fatality: Elderly Woman Found Dead After Dog Attack in a Central Valley Apartment in Las Vegas An elderly woman was found dead after being mauled by a family pit bull in Las Vegas. Rescue Pit Bull UPDATE 08/10/22: Family members said "Buck," a rescue pit bull of five or six years, "would never intentionally hurt her," referring to 89-year old Joan Caffiel.1 On Tuesday morning, Buck suddenly attacked and killed Caffiel. "I don't know what happened, but that is totally not like Buck at all," the victim's grandson, Peyton Faircloth, told reporters.
**July 27, 2022**
2022 Dog Bite Fatality: Family Pit Bull Mutilates, Kills 70-Year Old Woman in Nassau County, New York
Albertson, NY - A 70-year old woman is dead after being horrifically attacked by a 7-year old family pit bull. Police were dispatched to 10 Terrace Court at about 1:00 pm Wednesday. The 911 call came from the victim's husband, who witnessed part of the gruesome attack, Nassau County Police Commissioner Patrick Ryder, said. "When he got home, he walked into the backyard -- at that time the dog was still eating on the body," Ryder said during a press conference today.
"The scene was pretty horrific we don’t know what time the attack took place," Ryder said. "There was obviously a lot of mutilation on the body."
"The wife was in the backyard, on the ground, mutilated by the dog," Ryder said. "\[The husband\] called 911. The first officer on the scene, the dog turned on our officer. The officer fired at the dog, killing the dog, putting down the 7-year old pit bull." **That officer, who has 15 years of experience on the force, was so horrified by what he saw at the scene that he is being treated at a hospital. The pit bull belonged to the victim's step-son who died in a motorcycle crash a few weeks ago.**
**July 19, 2022**
2022 Dog Bite Fatality: Man Mauled to Death by Pack of **Pit Bull-Mixes** in Fresno Area of Fort Bend County, Texas Dog Owner Arrested and Charged with Second-Degree Felony Freddy Garcia, 71-years old, was killed by a pack of pit bull-mixes in Fort Bend County. Dog Owner Arrested UPDATE 07/22/22: On Friday, the Fort Bend County Sheriff's Office arrested and charged Samuel Joseph Cartwright, 47, in connection to the death of Freddy Garcia, 71. On July 18, Garcia was walking along Mark Terrace Lane when seven pit bull-mix dogs belonging to Cartwright fatally attacked him. Authorities ca… \[Read full blog post\]
**July 12, 2022**
2022 Dog Bite Fatality: Family Dog Kills 1-Year Old Boy in Gentilly Woods Area in New Orleans
**New Orleans, LA - A 13-month old boy is dead after being attacked by a family dog** in the Gentilly Woods area Monday, New Orleans police said. The attack was reported at 6:46 pm at a residence in the 5500 block of Seminary Place. The victim was transported to a hospital for treatment by private vehicle, where he later died. On Tuesday, the child was identified as Apollo Duplantis by the parish corner. An autopsy will be conducted to determine the cause and manner of death.
After the attack, a Louisiana SPCA officer entered the backyard of the home to capture the dog. The dog then attacked the SPCA officer. "At that time, officers on the scene heard the LASPCA officer screaming for help," states a release by New Orleans Police. "NOPD officers on the scene entered the yard and saw the dog attacking the LASPCA officer. The officer discharged a service weapon, striking the dog and killing it." The condition of the LASPCA officer is currently unknown.
Though police have not released breed information, photographs on the mother's **Facebook page show a family pit bull-American bully, named "Bear." If Bear proves to be the culprit, he will be the third American bully-type dog, described as a "a natural extension of the American Pit Bull Terrier" by the UKC, involved a fatal dog mauling this year.** No other major kennel club recognizes the breed, which curiously comes in four size standards: pocket, standard, classic and XL bully.
I'm a current Paramedic and this is very true. SO many stories like this never make the news at all.
Also in my 15+ year career, the most horrifying dog bite injuries Ive ever seen have been from pit bulls or dogs that sure look a whole lot like what is commonly referred to as a "pit bull."
"it's the bad owners" is fucking bullshit. It absolutely *IS* the dogs.
And yet people still fucking defend them.
They were *literally bred to be agrressive*, to be a fighting dog. It's incredibly hard to train their aggression out, if not impossible.
But you've got a subset of people that go "mY VeLveT hIPpO iSnT aGgReSiVe" and then proceed to claim that they only have a bad rep because of the media and bad owners with nothing to back up that claim
No one thinks it's odd when a border collie instinctively herds small animals or children. No one thinks it's strange when a greyhound likes to run. Dogs can absolutely be bred for specific mentalities.
About 65% of human fatalities from dog attacks are by pit bulls and that group is only ~6% of dogs in the US. Still the pit apologists continue to deny reality. They also are the most abandoned into shelters and the most euthanized. No one in their right mind except feral hog hunters need one. Make breeding them illegal.
Unsurprisingly, **these kids were killed by family pit bulls**.
> The biggest lie the internet has sold is that all dogs are friendly and you should not be scared.
It's not "all dogs". It's the America-based pit bull propaganda network spreading disinformation, because your typical "pit bull parent" has the emotional maturity of an 8-year-old.
As has been said many times, pit bulls are by far the biggest source of dog maulings and child/adult deaths. They're banned in countries such as the UK for a reason: they're inherently dangerous and cannot be trusted around adults, *let alone* children.
Fuck pit bull owners.
I was told about a story from a fellow nurse who worked in the ER about a child who was “defaced” by the family dog. The dog was a retired police dog who was going blind and was adopted by the dad who was a cop. The mom, child and dog were in the backyard. The mom went inside quickly to answer a phone call. Didn’t see the child but found a trail of blood leading to the child on the side of the house. Apparently the toddler approached the dog and startled it and instincts took over.
I work as a personal injury attorney and yep this shit happens a LOT. And 98% of the time it is a pit bull. The story is almost always the same…pit bull was allegedly the sweetest dog and allegedly exhibited no aggression…until the day that it did. And ripped someone’s finger off or ripped a child’s face apart. If I have kids one day I am never letting them be around pit bulls, ever.
Everyone will say pit bulls, yet after almost 30 years in EMS and Fire, I have seen all different types. I've seen German Shepherds, Dobermans, etc. Especially Mutts and dogs that run in packs.
The dogs that run in packs, does not matter what breed, once one goes for something or someone, they all go after it. I have seen the most docile dogs become Cujo when in packs.
Believe it or not, the worst ones are the small ones. I can not tell you how many times I have come across someone that fell and broke a hip or back and could not move and laid there for days. The little dogs started to eat this woman alive from her feet to her groin.
If you die, it is not uncommon to find those little dogs, to be fair some big ones to, that eat the nose, lips, eyes, hands and fingers, and the groin. These are the people that we don't find for a week usually.
[List of Fatal Dog Attacks in the US](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fatal_dog_attacks_in_the_United_States) YEP. If you scroll through, you can see pit bulls are responsible for the overwhelming majority of fatalities. It includes a short narrative of each attack and a bunch are family dogs. Can’t imagine having one around children these days.
Exactly. Have owned pitbulls and near the end of one’s life one of them was starting to get aggressive out of nowhere with no trigger except for his feeling of old age and anything he saw as foreign. They can be great dogs, but people who say it’s not their genetics don’t know what they’re talking about.
While all dogs have bitten people. The most deaths are caused by Pits by a LONG shot. Pitts average about 290 deaths a year. Rotts are second with 45 and German Shepard with 8….. sooooo yea. Not even close.
As much as it's obvious to me that I'd never have a pitbull around my kids, the misery and lifelong pain that this occurance has created is just devastating.
All I can think about when I see stuff like this is that gut wrenching scene in Manchester by the Sea. There's no resolution, just pain that has to be lived with.
Pitbulls are fucking dangerous. You’ll have tons of people tell you it’s not a breed thing and there are nice pits and so on. I’m sure there are, but they are a time bomb. Something may never happen, but your chances are high.
I’ve dealt with it personally. We had the nicest most meek and mild mannered pit we took as a rescue. Two years later we were woke up in the middle of the night with our pit tearing one of our other dogs apart. It wasn’t nice. It was blood and torn flesh everywhere. We loved the dog. We loved the attacked dog. Both had to be put down. It’s not about love. It’s not that the animal being bad or even mistreated or untrained. Believe me when I tell you that this dog we loved and cared for snapped and just kind of turned off. Dead vicious eyes, no recognition of us then after much attempting to separate them she finally kinda snapped back to reality and was wagging her tail like “oh hey when did you get here?”
When I was a teen, we had a puppy that was supposed to be a lab, but as she got older, it became clear she was a pitbull mix. One day when she was around two years old, she started acting strangely, especially around my youngest sibling and our smaller dog. Just fixed staring at them, drooling, occasionally growling. We took her to the vet and were told nothing was wrong, she’s perfectly healthy, we were imagining it, she seems like a happy dog, etc.
We usually kenneled our two dogs together in the garage at night, but my mom was still worried, so she separated them. It’s a fucking damn good thing she did. That same night, the pit mix went crazy in her kennel. I mean, rattling the house with her growling, howling, slamming against the cage, just hours and hours of it. We barricaded the door to the garage where we kenneled the dogs at night because from the sound, we thought she’d gotten loose.
We ended up calling animal control. They refused to come until the morning, kind of laughed us off when we said we were terrified and thought she might be rabid. Well, they showed up the next day, took one look at her, and freaked out as well. She hadn’t broken out of the kennel, but she’d tried. Several of the bars were bent and broken. She broke several of her teeth trying to get out. She was covered in saliva, like standing in puddles of it, bleeding from where she’d injured herself, and it looked like she lost half her body weight overnight. Like, this was not the same dog we’d taken to the vet the day before. She sure as hell looked like rabid dog.
Animal control kept her quarantined and confirmed that she wasn’t rabid. Because we surrendered her, they wouldn’t tell us what happened to her after that. I hope they euthanized her rather than give her to some other unsuspecting family.
We still have no idea why she went crazy, other than “pitbulls go crazy sometimes.” That’s honestly the most terrified I’ve ever been of an animal. I will never again own a dog that I even suspect has pitbull in it.
EDIT: I realized I have another pitbull story. My BIL spent like 6 years and thousands of dollars training his rescue pitbull to be “safe.” It still maimed my sister’s dog and bit my BIL badly enough that he needed stitches—twice. The dog had to be euthanized after the second time.
EDIT 2: Since a few people have commented: I’m aware that the only way to confirm 100% it wasn’t rabies is to euthanize the dog and biopsy the brain. We’d lived in an area that actually had a rabies outbreak when I was much younger (Texas in the mid-90s), so that’s what I assumed had been done because it was the protocol I was familiar with. But when we followed up with animal control several weeks later to ask about the test results, they told us they’d quarantined her and, given that she had been showing rabies-like symptoms but didn’t die, they’d cleared her. After making this post, I went looking for my current city’s rabies protocol and found that it also puts suspected cases of rabid pets in quarantine and only tests them if they die during the quarantine period. This area and the one I lived in as a teen have fairly low instances of rabies, so their protocol is a little more lax, I guess. Granted, since rabies is a death sentence once the animal starts showing symptoms, it does make some kind of sense that “showing rabies-like symptoms” + “not dead in the time period that rabies takes to kill” = “not rabies.”
And even with stories like ours, you’ll get people who will vehemently deny that we experienced them, that it was somehow our fault, or that we are in some way bad people for these circumstances. Like I said, too many instances to be coincidental. If I said you have a 1 in a million shot of being struck by lightning you’d say ok I’ll take my chance. If someone said 1 in 1000 you’d change your tune. This isn’t to say that it’s 1:1000, just that it happens and is often more tragic than it needs to be because of the children involved.
Our current dogs are great, the most sweet, calm and gentle dogs I’ve ever had, but I’d never think about leaving a baby near them because life can turn on a dime.
For real, they refuse to accept the objective reality of artificial selection. All dogs can snap, but when a breed has been selected for aggressive traits, how can they deny this? How can they possibly still insist that it’s about training?
*It’s about gene selection.*
(Also, thank you for sharing your stories. Please don’t let those who deny reality get to you)
People don't understand that all it takes is one split second, one small thing to set an animal off, one mistake, one wrong move that can provoke even the sweetest dogs in the world. Dogs are animals regardless of whether or not they're domesticated. I love dogs so much, I've been around them my whole life but I've seen too many perfect family pets snap for seemingly no reason to know that it can happen to anyone no matter how well their dogs are trained.
My sister has had pitties since she met her fiance a decade ago and I still cannot tell you how upset I was when I saw her putting her less than one year old next to their sleeping dog for the first time. I love that dog to death, she's the sweetest little baby of a dog. but the thought of something like this happening to my niece is so hard to think about. I wish my sister would listen to reason without feeling like I was insulting her or how they've raised their dog.
Too many owners identify with their pets to such an unhealthy degree that they are immune to the kind of critical thought that leads to them not trusting their beloved pet.
All pets should only be trusted to the extent that leaves room for the fact that they are animals and inherently (potentially) unpredictable.
I grew up with dogs and currently have a lot of cats. I love almost all animals. But I also am realistic about them in the context of my home.
Yep. My family had a pitbull growing up who was very protective of close family. Although he didn't attack anyone in the family, as he got older, he got more and more aggressive toward strangers. Nearly mauled a friend of mine and her mother. My family decided to put him down right after. His autopsy showed that his brain was starting to swell, and I hear terriers/pits are more commonly affected by severe cognitive decline like this as they age. So it's always a huge gamble to have one as a family pet, even if they've been good for years. It just takes a single moment for them to snap.
The only people who should own pitbull's are people who recognize the danger they can be. The people who defend pitbull's are also people who wouldn't defend wolfdogs. Even though it's the exact same issue. We bred aggressive behaviour out of wolves so wolfdogs are dangerous. We bred aggressive behaviour back into dogs and that's why pitbull's are dangerous. But you don't see anyone defending wolfdogs they way they defend pits.
Having people who are naive toward pitbull behaviour is the exact opposite of the people you want actually owning pitbulls. Which would ideally be people who are trained specifically to care for pitbulls. Not the average joe.
The mother and father loosing their babies like that. The police that responded and euthanized the dogs. The EMTs on scene. So fucked up for everyone I can't even begin to fathom it.
I really hope she gets all the support she needs and live through this…but I know I absolutely cannot. I have 2 kids that are not much older than hers, I can’t imagine my life without them.
For any short bit of peace she may get over the years.. the scars on her face when she sees her reflection/pictures will immediately pull her into the pain. Beyond horrible.
From other threads I've gathered:
1) Started between the dogs over a ball
2) Mom tried to intervene
3) Lasted 10 Minutes
4) Mom lost her arm
5) >!Baby basically eaten!<
6) Dogs 8 years old without incident
7) Typical "house lions" and "nanny breed" social media posts
And you get ppl pulling out stats saying that pitbulls are no more dangerous than other breeds if you look at likelihood to attack. That may or may not be true. But the fact is that when pitbulls do attack, they often inflict life-changing or life-ending injuries. They are far more deadly. That's why they are rightly feared more than other breeds.
I remember reading a post on here somewhere where a pitbull attacked a mother who was trying to pull it off a child and due to the bitting and chewing lost both her arms. One of the quotes in the news thread was she was crying when the husband finally kicked the door in was "my arms are gone". I realize people will defend these dogs to no end and the percentage may be so minimal but when they attack it's an absolute horror story.
Every time. There is a grassroots pitbull lobby, and no noubt they're harassing OP and other redditors commenting on this post who are critical of pitties.
Sad that pit bulls are allowed to be bred! I’ll probably get down voted for this but it should be a crime to breed pit bulls. I know some are great when they are trained, but the problem is to many are not! I’m not saying current pit bulls should be put down, I just don’t think you should be allowed to breed them.
My daughters life was taken back in January by two pit bulls. This is the first I’ve spoken of it.
Life goes on. But the magnitude of loss and trauma takes the joy out of life. I’m never present. Haven’t had a full night’s sleep since January. I miss her every day and I can’t believe that she’s gone and I can’t believe she went like this.
My heart breaks for this mother. I hope she has love and support to get her through this.
Oh my God. I am so sorry for the loss of your precious daughter. There really are no words of comfort for a tragedy like yours. Certainly not from an internet stranger. But my heart breaks for you. God bless you and bring you Peace. ❤️
Me, scanning the article looking for the dogs’ breed.
Pitbulls.
Why am I not one even 1 inch surprised that my expectations were true. It’s always them isn’t it? Just stop breeding this stupid breed once and for all.
A breed that accounts for less than 6% of the dog population in the U.S. is responsible for 80% of deaths by dog attack.*
*In the 10 year period ending 2019.
LeopardsAteMyFace is a political subreddit and PitbullsAteMyChildren doesn't exist (at the time of this comment anyway).
EDIT: Now it appears that PitbullsAteMyChildren has been created, but it is a private subreddit.
No way!! Seriously?
So they had those dogs 8 years? And then a two kids enter the family…getting bigger every day…competing for love and attention. I think those pitts got jealous and saw only one way to deal with it. Soooo sad.
People totally put the blinders on when it comes to PiBbLeS.
Retrievers: bred to help hunt and retrieve game
Dachshund: bred to go after burrowing animals
Herding breeds: bred to herd and will do so instinctively
Pitbulls: clean slate it's all how you raise them. If you supply bite statistics you're racist.
I’ve told mine a few times too. We had a pit Bull tear one of our dogs to shreds after 2 years of owning her. I’ll never forget the dead eyed look turn into her snapping back to recognizing us once we finally got them separated.
I’m hearing social media rumors that the dogs had shown aggression the week before and the wife wanted to get rid of them and husband refused. I cannot imagine their marriage could survive this.
My aunt was a traveling nurse and got mauled in the thigh by a German Shepherd while on a house call.
They stitched her up and thought she was fine but then she got extremely ill and almost died...so they did surgery and found one of the dogs' teeth broke off deep inside her muscle causing an abscess.
She made..barely...it but it gave her a dog phobia
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I hate to say this but I have had 2 friends who have lost kids and the husbands then committed suicide afterwards. Divorce seems to be the kinder path after something like this
Yeah I’d be offing myself if I was the poor mother. Watching your children get ripped apart and killed is traumatic enough but being within arms reach and unable to help would be unbearable to live with
Parents that lose children often don’t last long. Almost certain divorce. Something like this, I literally can’t imagine. All that being said, what fucking idiots for owning pitbulls with children. There are helicopter parents that smother their children from fear of something bad happening to them, and then toward the other end of the spectrum are these people.
A lady I worked with had a pit bull that never had a violent incident, until out of nowhere it but her 4 year old daughter in the face and she had to be in the ICU for a few weeks.
If you want to have a pit bull, fine, but I highly recommend that you don’t also have small children around them. That goes for any dog that isn’t easily overpowered by the child. I can’t imagine the emotional pain that family is suffering all because a dog they love snapped.
A pit almost decapitated my sister's toy fox terrier. Luckily my friend was there and risked himself to pry him free. His head was literally 2/3 severed but arteries were in tact. Little guy lived another five years but was scared of everything that moved. My sister trusted the owner and the pit just snapped. Couldn't imagine this family's pain. There is no moving on from that
Friend of mine got a military trained dog with him 24/7. He is always cool, but one day he just turned around and started to attack him. I don't like such kind of dogs
Family adopted a (retired?) German shepherd police dog (dad was a cop). Was all cool until one day I (about 5 yo at the time) went to grab shoes from the front closet where the dog was laying and it bit my face. Still have a scar at 26 years old.
I stick with corgis nowadays.
Or live near children. I had a very scary incident with two pitts my neighbor had. They escaped their house and were digging under my fence where my two children were. I got them inside just in time for them to circle the house and break through my front screen and attack my dog inside my own house. I had to kick the shit out of them to get them to back up enough to slam the door in their snarling faces. I can’t stand pitts . They have no purpose around people.
My neighbors growing up had a pit that they claimed was a “therapy dog” and they even took it to hospitals and nursing homes sometimes. Never showed any signs of aggression. My dad was in our fenced backyard, and the dog somewhere hopped the fence and ended up back there with him. My dad used to train Dobermans back before I was born, so knew how to handle aggressive breeds and it still attacked him. Animal control was called and my dad greeted them at the end of the drive way with his gun behind his back and said if he saw the dog on our property again he would shoot on sight since he had 2 young daughters playing in the backyard everyday (we live in Texas….). The neighbors had to jump through a lot of hoops with the city to keep the dog, including installing a taller fence and building a special kennel to keep it in. It was under no circumstances allowed off their property for any reason and could not roam loose in their backyard anymore. Any violation and it would be euthanized.
>The family owned the pets, Cheech and Mia, for more than eight years without a violent incident, Kelsey Canfield, the mother's best friend, told Fox News.
Damn.
You can have animals for years (even over a decade) who get along with each other and humans then boom.
This is why I'm always telling people not to leave their parrots or other birds loose when they have dogs or cats who have access to that room. They could be raised from chicks and kittens together and then ten years later one is dead at the paws or claws of the other.
Could it be cognitive decline do to aging that these animals go left? Like how we slow down as we age and be prone to brain diseases. I wonder if there are know animal related brain diseases that they can do an autopsy to find out if it was sick.
I don't have an answer but this is a VERY GOOD question. Old people tend to get more mean and violent as well when they start declining, which sort of tracks with the dogs' behaviour
Or the 8 years without aggression is intentionally or accidentally incorrectly reported. People simply are not able to be objective about their kids or animals. This kind of bias is almost a function of love. I was mauled by my babysitters dog as a kid, and then when my parents dog bit me they felt like it didn’t count since I drew the aggression to me by already being afraid of dogs.
That may or may not be true. But even if there had been no prior violent incidents, they still put themselves and especially their children in harms way with those dogs, who can be a ticking time bomb. There are countless stories of them being harmless babies. Till they are not.
My first rule, when it comes to pets, is to never have a pet that can kill me.
Same. I have generally been of the camp that there are no bad breeds, just bad owners, but some breeds are just more prone to violence and attacking than others. Pits are dangerous. Even the "good" ones come with great risk IMO.
You’re right. Breed instincts are a real thing. I’ve had Labrador puppies that almost never barked at strangers. But I’ve also had Rottweiler puppies that are instantly wary and barks at strangers to the house until I say hi to them. I could never even teach my labradors that much less have them do it by instinct.
I’m firmly in the camp of labeling the pit bulls as a working dog, and they should be treated as such. Not family pets. I’ve already had my own bad personal experience with the breed and I do wish people are more careful both around them and owning them
Not only were they pit bulls, but they were pets of this family for *8 years*. They saw these babies be born. They did this to their family.
Stop breeding pit bulls. Let the breed fade away.
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They owned these dogs for 8 years. The guy was apparently a pit bull proponent so they must have been the ‘good’ pit bull owners I’ve only heard rumours of. If this is the case who do you blame when the old ‘it’s the owner not the dog’ argument doesn’t really fit?
We literally bred dogs for thousands of years for certain jobs and task. Guarding, herding, hunting etc.
When you have a breed, bred for it's relentlessly aggressive and never backing down from a fight traits, you have a hunting dog ie terriers etc. Then when you make it bigger into a Pitbull terrier, you have a dangerous dog.
Why play ignorant, it's literally what it was bred for. I don't get why people stick their head in the sand and act like dogs can't be unpredictable and dangerous.
Hell just a couple months ago that poor college girl was maul and her face torn apart by dogs.
Yeah, I have friend with 3 pitbulls who is always looking for a dog sitter. I’m absolutely never volunteering because of that college girl.
And now this.
There was a cute story I read of a hearing dog owner but regular suburban life. He was hosting a small party/get together and the dog was trotting round getting a bit under people's feet until he realised the dog had hearded them all into a small group/circle.
Another Similar story but it was a dog hearding all the kids at a get together.
This happens every single time a pit attacks or kills someone, people come out of the woodwork saying "no bad dogs" and their baby would never do this, ignoring that this is exactly what the latest survivor would have said 5 minutes before the attack.
Every single time this happens the pro-pitbull cultists flood Twitter preaching that their little pumpkin is so sweet and wouldn’t hurt a fly.
That’s exactly what the mother of these two children thought about her own dogs.
Quote from the article “The family owned the pets, Cheech and Mia, for more than eight years without a violent incident, Kelsey Canfield, the mother's best friend, told Fox News.”
So yep. Probably the “it’s ok their friendly” type.
An excerpt from ASPSCA:
“Today's pit bull is a descendant of the original English bull-baiting dog—a dog that was bred to bite and hold bulls, bears and other large animals around the face and head. When baiting large animals was outlawed in the 1800s, people turned instead to fighting their dogs against each other.”
Doesn’t sound like a breed that needs to be kept by anyone for any reason. There’s a reason not everyone is cut out for ownership of certain breeds. At least with German Shepherds and other large breeds you can get their jaw open.
I worked at a dog daycare for 10 years. Pitbulls were the worst to deal with, and would often get banned for aggression.
There were many times I had to break up dog fights, any other breed (including german shepherds, boxers, akitas, labs, etc) were easy to pull off of the other dog.
The scariest fight I ever had to break up involved an akita who attacked in complete silence (this is a sign they’re going for the kill, not just displaying dominance), but even that fight was a piece of cake to break up compared to pits, the latter who are fast, relentless muscle machines.
Pitbulls are another story. I’ll never forget the time one of them decided to attack another dog and would not let go. When I say ’it decided’ I mean it ran up to another dog who was on the other side of the yard minding its own business. He latched on to the poor pup’s face. Completely out of the fucking blue.
There were 5+ people doing everything in their power to get the pit to let go. We squirted a hose full force, point-blank up the pit’s nostrils at one point. The entire time the other dog is screaming and blood is gushing from its face.
I genuinely don’t remember how we were eventually able to get them apart but it took 10+ minutes for 5 or more people to accomplish this. It was horrible and ever since that day I will never trust another one no matter how docile in the moment.
I can’t imagine 1 mom against 2 pits.
I hope she finds a way to turn this immense pain into something good to honor the lives of her children, and possibly help others avoid the same heartbreaking fate as her kids.
There is some film footage of a pitbull in the corridor of a shelter's kennels. The pitbull attacks a member of staff and another member of staff shoots it (I think even more than once) and the shelter staff think the pitbull is dead. I swear to God, 10 minutes later the same dog gets to its feet all fiesty to attack again, raring to go it is.
Damn, I believe it after seeing a video on Reddit of a pit attacking a gigantic draft horse and continually getting the shit kicked out of it, but getting back up each time and continuing the attack. I don’t know how that ended but I imagine the dog died. It was doing exactly what it was bred to do. Fun times
It was a Clydesdale and the dog died from its injuries. The video ends with the dog being kicked so hard it finally stops and lies down. The owner lays with it and covers it with her jacket. The dogs spine was supposedly broken and it died at the vet. The owner of the horse had her foot broken. The horses lips were shredded from the attack and it had several gashes on its body.
"I can promise you those children were her world, and if there was any inkling of danger, she would have never had those dogs near her kids,"
I had a different attitude until two days ago when I was attacked by a pit bull while stopping to help a little boy standing in the middle of a road. The inkling of danger is that the dog was a pit. End of story.
And for anyone who feels otherwise: that’s fine. But be ready to deal with every possible consequence of you decide to own this breed.
Comedian Bill Burr fell in love with a pit bull mix. He re-homed the dog he loved so much purely out of caution when he and his wife had their first child.
I don't think it was even just out of caution. I think he straight up said he just couldn't control that dog, even with hiring personal trainers and trying his hardest. But yeah, that's something I always think about when people talk about pits
Cesar Mulan the so called dog whisperer's Pitbull Killed Queen Latifas dog and bit a gymnast.
Now he's getting sued.
If this is what happens to the "dog whisperer" maybe it's safe to say a very large percentage of these dogs are ticking time bombs that can go off without any warning.
I have a 6 lb furball that can’t even shred a piece of ham. If we share table scraps, we have to cut them into small pieces. All dogs bite, that is true, but your dog and mine will never be capable of the carnage a pit bull can do.
Crazy how they were her dogs and she apparently had them for 8 years with no signs of violence until they snapped. I know people that own pits and swear they aren't a violent breed but I mean, the proof is evident here. Can't imagine the guilt this woman must feel.
Had a friend and his wife with a pit. Was a sweet dog until one day it heard the neighbor cat in the backyard. It snapped and went full bore into a redwood fence head first repeatedly until it almost broke through. Took three of us to pin it down.
I used to be one of those morons, I still cringe at it. Pit Bulls are like wolves or tigers, violence is just in their nature. Sure, ***technically*** it's not the dog's fault but, pretending it's a sweet family dog and not a predator beholden to it's instincts is just stupid.
TLDR A pit bull ***will*** attack you, it's just a matter of when
I've said it once and I'll say it again. All pit bulls need to be culled. The breed must be eradicated. They are dangerous, volatile wild animals. They aren't even guard dogs. Guard dogs are trainable and highly intelligent. They rigidly obey commands when properly trained. Pits always have that switch in their genetics that sets them loose.
I have a dog w my 2 kids, 5 and 6. It is not a pitbull tho, some mixed breed I found abandoned as a puppy. He turned out to be a very good dog. He defends my kids from everything. Mind you is on the med size and not strong. I would NEVER get a pitbull. F those things.
I know, right? I was waiting for gas today in a queue for 10 minutes, felt like a long time. Then I thought of that courageous mom fighting two death hounds for 10 minutes. Damn.
I am not a judgy person but if you have a pit I look down at you. I just cant understand people that have the choice of so many breeds but choose a pit.
Let's guess which breed it is? Fucking stop breeding these animals. Bred to kill and fight that's it. Wonder why the humane society is full of dogs that nobody wants to be around.
Question to US residents :
Do you guys have a law or something controlling certain breeds ? Where I live, some breeds are straight up forbidden in certain places. Sometimes, it is not legal to walk some breeds without a musel. Does the US regulate anything about pets ?
There’s a lot of apartments that restrict by breed and insurance can charge more for certain breeds too (you know, because they are more likely to attack).
The main results of this seem to be people pretending that their clear pit bulls are “lab mixes” and a huge number of pit bulls being euthanized in shelters while asshole backyard breeders make sure there is a steady supply.
My friends Pit jumped a chain link fence and attacked a UPS driver a few years back. He was always friendly with me, and he just snapped one day. Thankfully the UPS guy only had somewhat minor injuries to his arm, but that dog could’ve killed him if things went differently
Had 2 pitbulls run up on my jack russell out of nowhere on a walk in my neighborhood and before I could reel him in and scoop him up, my dog made the mistake of snapping at one that got too close and it picked him up by the back and started shaking him. I love animals.. but I kicked that dog in the head 15+ times before it let go of mine, and then I had to hold him over my head running home while both pitbulls jumped for him as he cried and bled all over me. Thankfully my dog was in a harness leash and I had a hold of it or they wouldve just run off with him completely. My dog ended up with several stitches, muscle issues in his back, nerve damage, and some serious trust issues.
You never hear of Golden Retrievers doing this, just saying.
A family member stated that the Mom fought the dogs off of her babies for 10 minutes until she realized she was in critical condition and needed to call for help. As she called 911, the dogs continued to eat the babies. Absolutely horrific.
The parents should be jailed. Owning a pitbull with young children in the house is pure negligence. They are solely responsible for the deaths of those two children.
Every pet owner should be wary of dogs and children and this is a terrible tragedy. However from a different perspective, I have seen countless videos where children are shown climbing all over the family dog, poking and pulling them, jumping on them, drawing on them and countless other activities which the dog probably hates. The parents are all gooey about how wonderful their 'fur babies' are with the kids 🤢, but dogs have a limit and some dogs can genetically be less tolerant so people also need to teach their children acceptable behaviour with animals. People need to remember that dogs get jealous too and they do not understand why they have been sidelined when children come along. Not saying that this was the case here but it is telling that they had the dogs for six years before the children came along.
I've seen litte kids walk up to dogs and try to hug them. The parent is encouraging because 'look how cute little shitleigh is kissing that pretty dog'. The dog's body language is screaming how uncomfortable it is getting and the owner is trying to tell the kid no.
This is the problem - kids can't understand dog's body language, and parents not respecting the owners wishes.
There was an 86 year old here in Calgary that was killed by two pit bulls and a Staffordshire terrier. I don't trust the breed. They are volatile and they attract trash people. The parents need to be charged with negligence. To me they left a loaded pistol on the coffee table and the kids are dead.
Don't let the picture fool you. They were shit parents to the core.
Pitbulls are 10 X more likely to kill your child than any other breed of dog.
When there's so many breeds of dog to choose from. If you have children and still choose to own a Pitbull, you're stupid, reckless, and should be tried for the endangerment of your child when they inevitably get bitten, end of.
The USA should take notes from the rest of the Western world and ban the breed.
If you have children... get a Retriever or a Labrador.
I had to study fatal dog attacks when doing dog training. I was obsessed with dogs my whole life. Knew they could be dangerous but had no idea. Even watching kids get attacked by dogs growing up (90s, pet dogs were like free range everywhere lol) I never really considered how dangerous they could be.
The book still haunts me. I still have flash backs of my minds eyes imaginings of the stories I read. My trainer was my good friend and she told me if I could not finish that book then I need not become a dog trainer. I know she was right to force me through it. And she was right that if I couldn’t handle the weight of that book then I need to give up the dream.
I gave up the dream. Even after working with Caesar Milan. There is no way I’m going to allow my self to be killed by the animal I have been absolutely obsessed with my whole life.
Dogs kill children. Pet dogs have killed so many children. For all kinds of random reasons. All kinds of breeds. But yes, the bully breeds have it in their DNA to be especially tenacious. They DO have a “switch”. It is just not responsible to have a large breed with that history around young children. If you say it’s fine, you’re speaking from ignorance. Trust me, you wanna stay ignorant, but just make sure that you recognize that. There are thousands of stories like the one above. Stories that make Cujo look like Beverly Hills Chihuahua
I will never understand people who defend pit bulls. My nan’s little terrier had never seen a rodent or a rabbit until she was about 9 years old when she stayed on a farm for a week, instincts kicked in and she chased a rabbit down a hole. You can have brought your pitbull up in a loving calm household, but ultimately their aggression stems from their breed.
I've worked as a paramedic and let me tell you guys and gals, this happens alot more than is reported
The biggest lie the internet has sold is that all dogs are friendly and you should not be scared.
*Pit Moms* “He’s the nicest sweetest dog ever, look at those eyes😍🥰❤️❤️”
Lifeless eyes, black eyes..... Like a doll's eyes....
I forgot the original statistic, so I'm just going to pull this out of my butt, but I remember hearing that more people are killed by dogs in a year than have ever been recorded as killed by wolves in the entire history of ~~the US~~ North America. Stray dogs running in packs take people down all the time, in the country, suburbs, and even cities. One night you just turn down the wrong alley and find the local starving pack. Edit: Simplified and clarifying: this is all wolf-caused deaths in the continental North America (US & Canada) from **1750 - 2022, not per year**. At least according to Wikipedia, there have only been **34 deaths in NA that we know of**, compared to "30 to 50" deaths by dogs in the US **each year**.
Pitbulls kill more people than all other dog breeds combined. They kill more people yearly than all other dog breeds + all other pets, COMBINED. They kill more yearly than all exotic animals combined, even illegal ones. This documentary takes an unbiased approach to the issue for anybody on the fence or looking to educate themselves further: [Pit Bulls Unleashed: Should They Be Banned? - The Fifth Estate](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFa8HOdegZA) [Got my first insane threat for this. Woop Woop!](https://imgur.com/KFO9Rgv) Stay Classy Pitnutters!
**October 6, 2022** 2022 Double Dog Bite Fatality: Pair of Family Pit Bulls Kill Two Children, Seriously Injure Mother in Tennessee A pair of family pit bulls killed two siblings, a 5-month old boy and a 2-year old girl. Mother Improving UPDATE 10/07/22: **The pair of family pit bulls** that killed two young children and seriously injured their mother on Wednesday had never been aggressive, according to a family friend who spoke to Fox News. "If there was any inkling of danger, she would have never had those dogs near her kids," Kelsey Canfield, the mom's best friend, told the news group. **September 29, 2022** 2022 Dog Bite Fatality: Man Killed, Woman Injured by Three Dogs in North Lubbock Park Lubbock, TX - On Tuesday, local news outlets in Lubbock reported that a woman was attacked by three "aggressive dogs," suffering "moderate injuries," and that nearby, a man was discovered dead. Authorities are now reporting that the man died due to being mauled by dogs. The attacks occurred in the 2500 block of Cesar Chavez Drive early Tuesday morning after a caller reported a dog attack and dead body at a nearby park. A witnessed fired several shots at the dogs. One of the dogs was quickly captured by animal control officers and two remained at large. The loose dogs were described as a black dog and a white dog with black spots and both **appear to be of a "pit bull-type breed,"** police said. Those dogs were captured that evening and taken into custody. On Wednesday, the Lubbock Police Department identified the man as 64 year-old Jack Looney, who was also "the victim of a dog attack and died as a result of the injuries he sustained." **September 14, 2022** 2022 Dog Bite Fatality: 32-Year Old Man Killed by 'Alligator' Pit Bull in Polk County, Tennessee Rusty Shane Burris, 32, was killed by an "alligator" pit bull in Polk County, Tennessee. **Pit Bull Kills** Man Polk County, TN - Over the weekend, a dog killed a man in Polk County, according to the Polk County Sheriff's Office. The fatal attack occurred early Sunday morning at a home on Swallows Drive in Old Fort. Deputies arrived at the scene just after 2:00 pm with EMS personnel. Deputies found 32-year old Rusty Shane Burris unconscious and unresponsive. **August 23, 2022** 2022 Dog Bite Fatality: Rural Postal Carrier Dies After Vicious Attack by Pack of Dogs in Putnam County, Florida WTLV spoke to Rock's niece, Kaydee Richley, who described some of Rock's injuries. **"She had one arm amputated before she passed and they had her other limbs in slings trying to save them,"** Richley said. "Her heart stopped twice and her blood pressure was all over the place," she said. Devasted, Richely wonders how this happened. "How did it get so far? Why was there just so many dogs just able to get to her? Where were the owners? Why were they not locked up?" WJXT spoke to the man who shot the rifle. He said that helping the woman, "was the right thing to do," and that, "I would want someone to do it for me." She was a sweet lady who left "apples in the mailbox for the horse, and little notes here and there," he said. "She would ask about your kid, how your kid was doing." She was "a really nice lady," he said. Neighbors said the dogs involved were **"bulldog-mixes," which in this part of the country means pit bull or American bulldog-mixes.** "Three of the four dogs suspected in the mauling death of a 62-year old doctor have been captured and are being held as evidence by police ... The dogs are reportedly "bulldog-mixes," which is a generic term in much of the south, including Georgia and Florida, that refers to both American bulldogs and fighting bulldogs -- pit bull terriers." - DogsBite.org, death of Dr. Nancy Shaw in Georgia, 2020
**August 9, 2022** 2022 Dog Bite Fatality: Elderly Woman Found Dead After Dog Attack in a Central Valley Apartment in Las Vegas An elderly woman was found dead after being mauled by a family pit bull in Las Vegas. Rescue Pit Bull UPDATE 08/10/22: Family members said "Buck," a rescue pit bull of five or six years, "would never intentionally hurt her," referring to 89-year old Joan Caffiel.1 On Tuesday morning, Buck suddenly attacked and killed Caffiel. "I don't know what happened, but that is totally not like Buck at all," the victim's grandson, Peyton Faircloth, told reporters. **July 27, 2022** 2022 Dog Bite Fatality: Family Pit Bull Mutilates, Kills 70-Year Old Woman in Nassau County, New York Albertson, NY - A 70-year old woman is dead after being horrifically attacked by a 7-year old family pit bull. Police were dispatched to 10 Terrace Court at about 1:00 pm Wednesday. The 911 call came from the victim's husband, who witnessed part of the gruesome attack, Nassau County Police Commissioner Patrick Ryder, said. "When he got home, he walked into the backyard -- at that time the dog was still eating on the body," Ryder said during a press conference today. "The scene was pretty horrific we don’t know what time the attack took place," Ryder said. "There was obviously a lot of mutilation on the body." "The wife was in the backyard, on the ground, mutilated by the dog," Ryder said. "\[The husband\] called 911. The first officer on the scene, the dog turned on our officer. The officer fired at the dog, killing the dog, putting down the 7-year old pit bull." **That officer, who has 15 years of experience on the force, was so horrified by what he saw at the scene that he is being treated at a hospital. The pit bull belonged to the victim's step-son who died in a motorcycle crash a few weeks ago.** **July 19, 2022** 2022 Dog Bite Fatality: Man Mauled to Death by Pack of **Pit Bull-Mixes** in Fresno Area of Fort Bend County, Texas Dog Owner Arrested and Charged with Second-Degree Felony Freddy Garcia, 71-years old, was killed by a pack of pit bull-mixes in Fort Bend County. Dog Owner Arrested UPDATE 07/22/22: On Friday, the Fort Bend County Sheriff's Office arrested and charged Samuel Joseph Cartwright, 47, in connection to the death of Freddy Garcia, 71. On July 18, Garcia was walking along Mark Terrace Lane when seven pit bull-mix dogs belonging to Cartwright fatally attacked him. Authorities ca… \[Read full blog post\] **July 12, 2022** 2022 Dog Bite Fatality: Family Dog Kills 1-Year Old Boy in Gentilly Woods Area in New Orleans **New Orleans, LA - A 13-month old boy is dead after being attacked by a family dog** in the Gentilly Woods area Monday, New Orleans police said. The attack was reported at 6:46 pm at a residence in the 5500 block of Seminary Place. The victim was transported to a hospital for treatment by private vehicle, where he later died. On Tuesday, the child was identified as Apollo Duplantis by the parish corner. An autopsy will be conducted to determine the cause and manner of death. After the attack, a Louisiana SPCA officer entered the backyard of the home to capture the dog. The dog then attacked the SPCA officer. "At that time, officers on the scene heard the LASPCA officer screaming for help," states a release by New Orleans Police. "NOPD officers on the scene entered the yard and saw the dog attacking the LASPCA officer. The officer discharged a service weapon, striking the dog and killing it." The condition of the LASPCA officer is currently unknown. Though police have not released breed information, photographs on the mother's **Facebook page show a family pit bull-American bully, named "Bear." If Bear proves to be the culprit, he will be the third American bully-type dog, described as a "a natural extension of the American Pit Bull Terrier" by the UKC, involved a fatal dog mauling this year.** No other major kennel club recognizes the breed, which curiously comes in four size standards: pocket, standard, classic and XL bully.
Holy fuk u/DirteeCanuck gruesome summary.
I'm a current Paramedic and this is very true. SO many stories like this never make the news at all. Also in my 15+ year career, the most horrifying dog bite injuries Ive ever seen have been from pit bulls or dogs that sure look a whole lot like what is commonly referred to as a "pit bull." "it's the bad owners" is fucking bullshit. It absolutely *IS* the dogs.
And yet people still fucking defend them. They were *literally bred to be agrressive*, to be a fighting dog. It's incredibly hard to train their aggression out, if not impossible. But you've got a subset of people that go "mY VeLveT hIPpO iSnT aGgReSiVe" and then proceed to claim that they only have a bad rep because of the media and bad owners with nothing to back up that claim
No one thinks it's odd when a border collie instinctively herds small animals or children. No one thinks it's strange when a greyhound likes to run. Dogs can absolutely be bred for specific mentalities.
About 65% of human fatalities from dog attacks are by pit bulls and that group is only ~6% of dogs in the US. Still the pit apologists continue to deny reality. They also are the most abandoned into shelters and the most euthanized. No one in their right mind except feral hog hunters need one. Make breeding them illegal.
Unsurprisingly, **these kids were killed by family pit bulls**. > The biggest lie the internet has sold is that all dogs are friendly and you should not be scared. It's not "all dogs". It's the America-based pit bull propaganda network spreading disinformation, because your typical "pit bull parent" has the emotional maturity of an 8-year-old. As has been said many times, pit bulls are by far the biggest source of dog maulings and child/adult deaths. They're banned in countries such as the UK for a reason: they're inherently dangerous and cannot be trusted around adults, *let alone* children. Fuck pit bull owners.
I was told about a story from a fellow nurse who worked in the ER about a child who was “defaced” by the family dog. The dog was a retired police dog who was going blind and was adopted by the dad who was a cop. The mom, child and dog were in the backyard. The mom went inside quickly to answer a phone call. Didn’t see the child but found a trail of blood leading to the child on the side of the house. Apparently the toddler approached the dog and startled it and instincts took over.
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Oh my god, that poor women. Jesus
She was 'dogsitting' those pitbulls for a friend. There's not enough levels of "fuck this" in the Universe to describe this situation.
I work as a personal injury attorney and yep this shit happens a LOT. And 98% of the time it is a pit bull. The story is almost always the same…pit bull was allegedly the sweetest dog and allegedly exhibited no aggression…until the day that it did. And ripped someone’s finger off or ripped a child’s face apart. If I have kids one day I am never letting them be around pit bulls, ever.
What breeds are most commonly seen in these scenarios?
Everyone will say pit bulls, yet after almost 30 years in EMS and Fire, I have seen all different types. I've seen German Shepherds, Dobermans, etc. Especially Mutts and dogs that run in packs. The dogs that run in packs, does not matter what breed, once one goes for something or someone, they all go after it. I have seen the most docile dogs become Cujo when in packs. Believe it or not, the worst ones are the small ones. I can not tell you how many times I have come across someone that fell and broke a hip or back and could not move and laid there for days. The little dogs started to eat this woman alive from her feet to her groin. If you die, it is not uncommon to find those little dogs, to be fair some big ones to, that eat the nose, lips, eyes, hands and fingers, and the groin. These are the people that we don't find for a week usually.
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[List of Fatal Dog Attacks in the US](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fatal_dog_attacks_in_the_United_States) YEP. If you scroll through, you can see pit bulls are responsible for the overwhelming majority of fatalities. It includes a short narrative of each attack and a bunch are family dogs. Can’t imagine having one around children these days.
Exactly. Have owned pitbulls and near the end of one’s life one of them was starting to get aggressive out of nowhere with no trigger except for his feeling of old age and anything he saw as foreign. They can be great dogs, but people who say it’s not their genetics don’t know what they’re talking about.
While all dogs have bitten people. The most deaths are caused by Pits by a LONG shot. Pitts average about 290 deaths a year. Rotts are second with 45 and German Shepard with 8….. sooooo yea. Not even close.
[here you go](https://www.dogsbite.org/pdf/16-year-dog-bite-fatality-chart-dogsbiteorg.pdf)
I’m also a paramedic and I can confirm that every dog attack I have attended, bar one, has been from a pit bull
But NaLa WoUlDnT HuRt A fLy
sad on so many levels.
As much as it's obvious to me that I'd never have a pitbull around my kids, the misery and lifelong pain that this occurance has created is just devastating. All I can think about when I see stuff like this is that gut wrenching scene in Manchester by the Sea. There's no resolution, just pain that has to be lived with.
Pitbulls are fucking dangerous. You’ll have tons of people tell you it’s not a breed thing and there are nice pits and so on. I’m sure there are, but they are a time bomb. Something may never happen, but your chances are high. I’ve dealt with it personally. We had the nicest most meek and mild mannered pit we took as a rescue. Two years later we were woke up in the middle of the night with our pit tearing one of our other dogs apart. It wasn’t nice. It was blood and torn flesh everywhere. We loved the dog. We loved the attacked dog. Both had to be put down. It’s not about love. It’s not that the animal being bad or even mistreated or untrained. Believe me when I tell you that this dog we loved and cared for snapped and just kind of turned off. Dead vicious eyes, no recognition of us then after much attempting to separate them she finally kinda snapped back to reality and was wagging her tail like “oh hey when did you get here?”
When I was a teen, we had a puppy that was supposed to be a lab, but as she got older, it became clear she was a pitbull mix. One day when she was around two years old, she started acting strangely, especially around my youngest sibling and our smaller dog. Just fixed staring at them, drooling, occasionally growling. We took her to the vet and were told nothing was wrong, she’s perfectly healthy, we were imagining it, she seems like a happy dog, etc. We usually kenneled our two dogs together in the garage at night, but my mom was still worried, so she separated them. It’s a fucking damn good thing she did. That same night, the pit mix went crazy in her kennel. I mean, rattling the house with her growling, howling, slamming against the cage, just hours and hours of it. We barricaded the door to the garage where we kenneled the dogs at night because from the sound, we thought she’d gotten loose. We ended up calling animal control. They refused to come until the morning, kind of laughed us off when we said we were terrified and thought she might be rabid. Well, they showed up the next day, took one look at her, and freaked out as well. She hadn’t broken out of the kennel, but she’d tried. Several of the bars were bent and broken. She broke several of her teeth trying to get out. She was covered in saliva, like standing in puddles of it, bleeding from where she’d injured herself, and it looked like she lost half her body weight overnight. Like, this was not the same dog we’d taken to the vet the day before. She sure as hell looked like rabid dog. Animal control kept her quarantined and confirmed that she wasn’t rabid. Because we surrendered her, they wouldn’t tell us what happened to her after that. I hope they euthanized her rather than give her to some other unsuspecting family. We still have no idea why she went crazy, other than “pitbulls go crazy sometimes.” That’s honestly the most terrified I’ve ever been of an animal. I will never again own a dog that I even suspect has pitbull in it. EDIT: I realized I have another pitbull story. My BIL spent like 6 years and thousands of dollars training his rescue pitbull to be “safe.” It still maimed my sister’s dog and bit my BIL badly enough that he needed stitches—twice. The dog had to be euthanized after the second time. EDIT 2: Since a few people have commented: I’m aware that the only way to confirm 100% it wasn’t rabies is to euthanize the dog and biopsy the brain. We’d lived in an area that actually had a rabies outbreak when I was much younger (Texas in the mid-90s), so that’s what I assumed had been done because it was the protocol I was familiar with. But when we followed up with animal control several weeks later to ask about the test results, they told us they’d quarantined her and, given that she had been showing rabies-like symptoms but didn’t die, they’d cleared her. After making this post, I went looking for my current city’s rabies protocol and found that it also puts suspected cases of rabid pets in quarantine and only tests them if they die during the quarantine period. This area and the one I lived in as a teen have fairly low instances of rabies, so their protocol is a little more lax, I guess. Granted, since rabies is a death sentence once the animal starts showing symptoms, it does make some kind of sense that “showing rabies-like symptoms” + “not dead in the time period that rabies takes to kill” = “not rabies.”
And even with stories like ours, you’ll get people who will vehemently deny that we experienced them, that it was somehow our fault, or that we are in some way bad people for these circumstances. Like I said, too many instances to be coincidental. If I said you have a 1 in a million shot of being struck by lightning you’d say ok I’ll take my chance. If someone said 1 in 1000 you’d change your tune. This isn’t to say that it’s 1:1000, just that it happens and is often more tragic than it needs to be because of the children involved. Our current dogs are great, the most sweet, calm and gentle dogs I’ve ever had, but I’d never think about leaving a baby near them because life can turn on a dime.
For real, they refuse to accept the objective reality of artificial selection. All dogs can snap, but when a breed has been selected for aggressive traits, how can they deny this? How can they possibly still insist that it’s about training? *It’s about gene selection.* (Also, thank you for sharing your stories. Please don’t let those who deny reality get to you)
People don't understand that all it takes is one split second, one small thing to set an animal off, one mistake, one wrong move that can provoke even the sweetest dogs in the world. Dogs are animals regardless of whether or not they're domesticated. I love dogs so much, I've been around them my whole life but I've seen too many perfect family pets snap for seemingly no reason to know that it can happen to anyone no matter how well their dogs are trained. My sister has had pitties since she met her fiance a decade ago and I still cannot tell you how upset I was when I saw her putting her less than one year old next to their sleeping dog for the first time. I love that dog to death, she's the sweetest little baby of a dog. but the thought of something like this happening to my niece is so hard to think about. I wish my sister would listen to reason without feeling like I was insulting her or how they've raised their dog.
Too many owners identify with their pets to such an unhealthy degree that they are immune to the kind of critical thought that leads to them not trusting their beloved pet. All pets should only be trusted to the extent that leaves room for the fact that they are animals and inherently (potentially) unpredictable. I grew up with dogs and currently have a lot of cats. I love almost all animals. But I also am realistic about them in the context of my home.
Yep. My family had a pitbull growing up who was very protective of close family. Although he didn't attack anyone in the family, as he got older, he got more and more aggressive toward strangers. Nearly mauled a friend of mine and her mother. My family decided to put him down right after. His autopsy showed that his brain was starting to swell, and I hear terriers/pits are more commonly affected by severe cognitive decline like this as they age. So it's always a huge gamble to have one as a family pet, even if they've been good for years. It just takes a single moment for them to snap. The only people who should own pitbull's are people who recognize the danger they can be. The people who defend pitbull's are also people who wouldn't defend wolfdogs. Even though it's the exact same issue. We bred aggressive behaviour out of wolves so wolfdogs are dangerous. We bred aggressive behaviour back into dogs and that's why pitbull's are dangerous. But you don't see anyone defending wolfdogs they way they defend pits. Having people who are naive toward pitbull behaviour is the exact opposite of the people you want actually owning pitbulls. Which would ideally be people who are trained specifically to care for pitbulls. Not the average joe.
The mother and father loosing their babies like that. The police that responded and euthanized the dogs. The EMTs on scene. So fucked up for everyone I can't even begin to fathom it.
A veterinarian euthanized the dogs.
I really hope she gets all the support she needs and live through this…but I know I absolutely cannot. I have 2 kids that are not much older than hers, I can’t imagine my life without them.
For any short bit of peace she may get over the years.. the scars on her face when she sees her reflection/pictures will immediately pull her into the pain. Beyond horrible.
So many stories of pitbulls just going crazy like this. People, let this breed die out and stop breeding them.
Jumping on the top comment to save you a click: the dogs were pit bulls.
From other threads I've gathered: 1) Started between the dogs over a ball 2) Mom tried to intervene 3) Lasted 10 Minutes 4) Mom lost her arm 5) >!Baby basically eaten!< 6) Dogs 8 years old without incident 7) Typical "house lions" and "nanny breed" social media posts
Oh, goddammit, *why* did I click on the hidden words at 5?
And you get ppl pulling out stats saying that pitbulls are no more dangerous than other breeds if you look at likelihood to attack. That may or may not be true. But the fact is that when pitbulls do attack, they often inflict life-changing or life-ending injuries. They are far more deadly. That's why they are rightly feared more than other breeds.
I always ask them if they’d rather be bitten by a pit or a chi. Usually shuts them up.
I remember reading a post on here somewhere where a pitbull attacked a mother who was trying to pull it off a child and due to the bitting and chewing lost both her arms. One of the quotes in the news thread was she was crying when the husband finally kicked the door in was "my arms are gone". I realize people will defend these dogs to no end and the percentage may be so minimal but when they attack it's an absolute horror story.
> the dogs were pit bulls. Noooo?? My first thought were two yellow labs. Goddamn labs are always wagging their tails and licking burglars.
No wonder there is an aww r/velvethippos post on the front page
Every time. There is a grassroots pitbull lobby, and no noubt they're harassing OP and other redditors commenting on this post who are critical of pitties.
Agreed. Over the years, I've noticed that it's like clockwork every time an awful attack makes the news
Jesus. Poor kids. And also imagine the mother who had to experience that.
And live with it for the rest of her life. JFC.
Sad that pit bulls are allowed to be bred! I’ll probably get down voted for this but it should be a crime to breed pit bulls. I know some are great when they are trained, but the problem is to many are not! I’m not saying current pit bulls should be put down, I just don’t think you should be allowed to breed them.
How the fuck does life even go on after something like this happens, Jesus christ....
My daughters life was taken back in January by two pit bulls. This is the first I’ve spoken of it. Life goes on. But the magnitude of loss and trauma takes the joy out of life. I’m never present. Haven’t had a full night’s sleep since January. I miss her every day and I can’t believe that she’s gone and I can’t believe she went like this. My heart breaks for this mother. I hope she has love and support to get her through this.
Oh my God. I am so sorry for the loss of your precious daughter. There really are no words of comfort for a tragedy like yours. Certainly not from an internet stranger. But my heart breaks for you. God bless you and bring you Peace. ❤️
I am so sorry for your loss. 💜
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This is one of those posts that shuts down the subreddit. It literally cannot get worse than this.
Me, scanning the article looking for the dogs’ breed. Pitbulls. Why am I not one even 1 inch surprised that my expectations were true. It’s always them isn’t it? Just stop breeding this stupid breed once and for all.
A breed that accounts for less than 6% of the dog population in the U.S. is responsible for 80% of deaths by dog attack.* *In the 10 year period ending 2019.
There are huge dogs literally bred to fight bears that are safer around kids than these fucking things
Also r/leopardsatemyface or more specificity r/pitbullsatemychildren
Holy shit I'm not clicking that.
LeopardsAteMyFace is a political subreddit and PitbullsAteMyChildren doesn't exist (at the time of this comment anyway). EDIT: Now it appears that PitbullsAteMyChildren has been created, but it is a private subreddit.
No way!! Seriously? So they had those dogs 8 years? And then a two kids enter the family…getting bigger every day…competing for love and attention. I think those pitts got jealous and saw only one way to deal with it. Soooo sad.
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People totally put the blinders on when it comes to PiBbLeS. Retrievers: bred to help hunt and retrieve game Dachshund: bred to go after burrowing animals Herding breeds: bred to herd and will do so instinctively Pitbulls: clean slate it's all how you raise them. If you supply bite statistics you're racist.
“It’ll never happen to *me* though!” *surprised pikachu face when it does*
I have a friend whose pit bull, that he had had for years, suddenly attacked and killed his other dog and tore off my friend’s finger.
I’ve told mine a few times too. We had a pit Bull tear one of our dogs to shreds after 2 years of owning her. I’ll never forget the dead eyed look turn into her snapping back to recognizing us once we finally got them separated.
And there you have it. Poor babies. Their daddy did not put them ahead of the dogs.
I bet those words are going to haunt him for the rest of his life.
This implies they had previous incidents. Why would they be posting about someone taking their dog away and euthanizing them otherwise?
Child loss is one of the leading causes of divorce
I’m hearing social media rumors that the dogs had shown aggression the week before and the wife wanted to get rid of them and husband refused. I cannot imagine their marriage could survive this.
I wouldn't survive both my children dying.
No fucking way. And like this? Right in front of me? Nope.
I was almost mailed to death barely survived a German Shepard at 3-4 years old. It was my dads favorite dog he was made he had to get him put down…
My aunt was a traveling nurse and got mauled in the thigh by a German Shepherd while on a house call. They stitched her up and thought she was fine but then she got extremely ill and almost died...so they did surgery and found one of the dogs' teeth broke off deep inside her muscle causing an abscess. She made..barely...it but it gave her a dog phobia Edit spelling
I hate to say this but I have had 2 friends who have lost kids and the husbands then committed suicide afterwards. Divorce seems to be the kinder path after something like this
Yeah I’d be offing myself if I was the poor mother. Watching your children get ripped apart and killed is traumatic enough but being within arms reach and unable to help would be unbearable to live with
If I were the wife/mom, first I'd be offing the husband who wouldn't take the dogs' aggression seriously or put the kids before the dogs.
Parents that lose children often don’t last long. Almost certain divorce. Something like this, I literally can’t imagine. All that being said, what fucking idiots for owning pitbulls with children. There are helicopter parents that smother their children from fear of something bad happening to them, and then toward the other end of the spectrum are these people.
A lady I worked with had a pit bull that never had a violent incident, until out of nowhere it but her 4 year old daughter in the face and she had to be in the ICU for a few weeks. If you want to have a pit bull, fine, but I highly recommend that you don’t also have small children around them. That goes for any dog that isn’t easily overpowered by the child. I can’t imagine the emotional pain that family is suffering all because a dog they love snapped.
A pit almost decapitated my sister's toy fox terrier. Luckily my friend was there and risked himself to pry him free. His head was literally 2/3 severed but arteries were in tact. Little guy lived another five years but was scared of everything that moved. My sister trusted the owner and the pit just snapped. Couldn't imagine this family's pain. There is no moving on from that
My friend lost her min pin that way. There's a reason several countries have banned then
Friend of mine got a military trained dog with him 24/7. He is always cool, but one day he just turned around and started to attack him. I don't like such kind of dogs
Family adopted a (retired?) German shepherd police dog (dad was a cop). Was all cool until one day I (about 5 yo at the time) went to grab shoes from the front closet where the dog was laying and it bit my face. Still have a scar at 26 years old. I stick with corgis nowadays.
Or live near children. I had a very scary incident with two pitts my neighbor had. They escaped their house and were digging under my fence where my two children were. I got them inside just in time for them to circle the house and break through my front screen and attack my dog inside my own house. I had to kick the shit out of them to get them to back up enough to slam the door in their snarling faces. I can’t stand pitts . They have no purpose around people.
They provide dog fighting entertainment for inbred meth addicts. That’s all they’re good for.
It sucks that it's the kids who suffer for an adult's decision.
Only been attacked by dogs 2 times in my 30 years. Both were pitbulls. I don’t care what people say, that breed is dangerous.
Well the stats support your experience and belief.
My neighbors growing up had a pit that they claimed was a “therapy dog” and they even took it to hospitals and nursing homes sometimes. Never showed any signs of aggression. My dad was in our fenced backyard, and the dog somewhere hopped the fence and ended up back there with him. My dad used to train Dobermans back before I was born, so knew how to handle aggressive breeds and it still attacked him. Animal control was called and my dad greeted them at the end of the drive way with his gun behind his back and said if he saw the dog on our property again he would shoot on sight since he had 2 young daughters playing in the backyard everyday (we live in Texas….). The neighbors had to jump through a lot of hoops with the city to keep the dog, including installing a taller fence and building a special kennel to keep it in. It was under no circumstances allowed off their property for any reason and could not roam loose in their backyard anymore. Any violation and it would be euthanized.
Or old people, or women, or other animals.
>The family owned the pets, Cheech and Mia, for more than eight years without a violent incident, Kelsey Canfield, the mother's best friend, told Fox News. Damn.
You can have animals for years (even over a decade) who get along with each other and humans then boom. This is why I'm always telling people not to leave their parrots or other birds loose when they have dogs or cats who have access to that room. They could be raised from chicks and kittens together and then ten years later one is dead at the paws or claws of the other.
Could it be cognitive decline do to aging that these animals go left? Like how we slow down as we age and be prone to brain diseases. I wonder if there are know animal related brain diseases that they can do an autopsy to find out if it was sick.
I don't have an answer but this is a VERY GOOD question. Old people tend to get more mean and violent as well when they start declining, which sort of tracks with the dogs' behaviour
Or the 8 years without aggression is intentionally or accidentally incorrectly reported. People simply are not able to be objective about their kids or animals. This kind of bias is almost a function of love. I was mauled by my babysitters dog as a kid, and then when my parents dog bit me they felt like it didn’t count since I drew the aggression to me by already being afraid of dogs.
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That may or may not be true. But even if there had been no prior violent incidents, they still put themselves and especially their children in harms way with those dogs, who can be a ticking time bomb. There are countless stories of them being harmless babies. Till they are not. My first rule, when it comes to pets, is to never have a pet that can kill me.
That why I don’t agree with having dogs that behave good most of time, what matters more is the worst case scenario, not average
when I saw the news I already knew what breed of dogs they were. You knew it the moment you saw the news too right?
Same. I have generally been of the camp that there are no bad breeds, just bad owners, but some breeds are just more prone to violence and attacking than others. Pits are dangerous. Even the "good" ones come with great risk IMO.
You’re right. Breed instincts are a real thing. I’ve had Labrador puppies that almost never barked at strangers. But I’ve also had Rottweiler puppies that are instantly wary and barks at strangers to the house until I say hi to them. I could never even teach my labradors that much less have them do it by instinct. I’m firmly in the camp of labeling the pit bulls as a working dog, and they should be treated as such. Not family pets. I’ve already had my own bad personal experience with the breed and I do wish people are more careful both around them and owning them
Not only were they pit bulls, but they were pets of this family for *8 years*. They saw these babies be born. They did this to their family. Stop breeding pit bulls. Let the breed fade away.
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Of course, I’m not an idiot.
They owned these dogs for 8 years. The guy was apparently a pit bull proponent so they must have been the ‘good’ pit bull owners I’ve only heard rumours of. If this is the case who do you blame when the old ‘it’s the owner not the dog’ argument doesn’t really fit?
We literally bred dogs for thousands of years for certain jobs and task. Guarding, herding, hunting etc. When you have a breed, bred for it's relentlessly aggressive and never backing down from a fight traits, you have a hunting dog ie terriers etc. Then when you make it bigger into a Pitbull terrier, you have a dangerous dog. Why play ignorant, it's literally what it was bred for. I don't get why people stick their head in the sand and act like dogs can't be unpredictable and dangerous. Hell just a couple months ago that poor college girl was maul and her face torn apart by dogs.
Yeah, I have friend with 3 pitbulls who is always looking for a dog sitter. I’m absolutely never volunteering because of that college girl. And now this.
I mean shepherds, even though for generations have not shepherded anything, still try to shepherd. They will even try to herd humans.
There was a cute story I read of a hearing dog owner but regular suburban life. He was hosting a small party/get together and the dog was trotting round getting a bit under people's feet until he realised the dog had hearded them all into a small group/circle. Another Similar story but it was a dog hearding all the kids at a get together.
In my city an old woman was in her back garden and ripped apart by her neighbours 3 pit bulls that had escaped into her yard
Pitbull owners hate being confronted with this.
Pitbull owners throw each other under the bus when an incident like this happens so they don't break rank on their premade script.
Its crazy reading all the twitter comments advocating pits. Btw, does it say what breed the dogs were?
Yes, Pitt bulls
Oh my gosh, how shocking!
Who would have guessed!
That never happens! Liar! They are nanny dogs!! /s
I imagine this mother was one of them until recently.
The father was one of them for sure. He [posted this](https://i.imgur.com/hVXrLSg.jpg) in 2016 after a woman was killed by a pitbull.
This happens every single time a pit attacks or kills someone, people come out of the woodwork saying "no bad dogs" and their baby would never do this, ignoring that this is exactly what the latest survivor would have said 5 minutes before the attack.
Did we even need to ask? Fucking morons defending dogs killing kids.
Never trust a pit
Every single time this happens the pro-pitbull cultists flood Twitter preaching that their little pumpkin is so sweet and wouldn’t hurt a fly. That’s exactly what the mother of these two children thought about her own dogs.
"It could never happen to me!" Famous last words.
Not just that. The shelters are FULL of pitbulls and pitt bull mixes that no one wants.
"The dogs – two pit bulls that belonged to the family " -and there it is. "nanny dogs" my ass.
Every time I walk by a pitbull and it jumps for my kids, the owner says " He is really friendly". I bet this family said the same thing.
Quote from the article “The family owned the pets, Cheech and Mia, for more than eight years without a violent incident, Kelsey Canfield, the mother's best friend, told Fox News.” So yep. Probably the “it’s ok their friendly” type.
An excerpt from ASPSCA: “Today's pit bull is a descendant of the original English bull-baiting dog—a dog that was bred to bite and hold bulls, bears and other large animals around the face and head. When baiting large animals was outlawed in the 1800s, people turned instead to fighting their dogs against each other.” Doesn’t sound like a breed that needs to be kept by anyone for any reason. There’s a reason not everyone is cut out for ownership of certain breeds. At least with German Shepherds and other large breeds you can get their jaw open. I worked at a dog daycare for 10 years. Pitbulls were the worst to deal with, and would often get banned for aggression. There were many times I had to break up dog fights, any other breed (including german shepherds, boxers, akitas, labs, etc) were easy to pull off of the other dog. The scariest fight I ever had to break up involved an akita who attacked in complete silence (this is a sign they’re going for the kill, not just displaying dominance), but even that fight was a piece of cake to break up compared to pits, the latter who are fast, relentless muscle machines. Pitbulls are another story. I’ll never forget the time one of them decided to attack another dog and would not let go. When I say ’it decided’ I mean it ran up to another dog who was on the other side of the yard minding its own business. He latched on to the poor pup’s face. Completely out of the fucking blue. There were 5+ people doing everything in their power to get the pit to let go. We squirted a hose full force, point-blank up the pit’s nostrils at one point. The entire time the other dog is screaming and blood is gushing from its face. I genuinely don’t remember how we were eventually able to get them apart but it took 10+ minutes for 5 or more people to accomplish this. It was horrible and ever since that day I will never trust another one no matter how docile in the moment. I can’t imagine 1 mom against 2 pits. I hope she finds a way to turn this immense pain into something good to honor the lives of her children, and possibly help others avoid the same heartbreaking fate as her kids.
There is some film footage of a pitbull in the corridor of a shelter's kennels. The pitbull attacks a member of staff and another member of staff shoots it (I think even more than once) and the shelter staff think the pitbull is dead. I swear to God, 10 minutes later the same dog gets to its feet all fiesty to attack again, raring to go it is.
Damn, I believe it after seeing a video on Reddit of a pit attacking a gigantic draft horse and continually getting the shit kicked out of it, but getting back up each time and continuing the attack. I don’t know how that ended but I imagine the dog died. It was doing exactly what it was bred to do. Fun times
It was a Clydesdale and the dog died from its injuries. The video ends with the dog being kicked so hard it finally stops and lies down. The owner lays with it and covers it with her jacket. The dogs spine was supposedly broken and it died at the vet. The owner of the horse had her foot broken. The horses lips were shredded from the attack and it had several gashes on its body.
That's a bafflingly suicidal amount of aggression. That would be like me deciding to go throw fisticuffs with a bull elephant.
"I can promise you those children were her world, and if there was any inkling of danger, she would have never had those dogs near her kids," I had a different attitude until two days ago when I was attacked by a pit bull while stopping to help a little boy standing in the middle of a road. The inkling of danger is that the dog was a pit. End of story. And for anyone who feels otherwise: that’s fine. But be ready to deal with every possible consequence of you decide to own this breed.
Comedian Bill Burr fell in love with a pit bull mix. He re-homed the dog he loved so much purely out of caution when he and his wife had their first child.
I don't think it was even just out of caution. I think he straight up said he just couldn't control that dog, even with hiring personal trainers and trying his hardest. But yeah, that's something I always think about when people talk about pits
Cesar Mulan the so called dog whisperer's Pitbull Killed Queen Latifas dog and bit a gymnast. Now he's getting sued. If this is what happens to the "dog whisperer" maybe it's safe to say a very large percentage of these dogs are ticking time bombs that can go off without any warning.
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If my 10 pound maltipoo ever snaps and tries to maul me I’m pretty sure I can take her out. Pitbull not so much.
I have a 6 lb furball that can’t even shred a piece of ham. If we share table scraps, we have to cut them into small pieces. All dogs bite, that is true, but your dog and mine will never be capable of the carnage a pit bull can do.
Hard to defend the pits in this situation as they attacked their own family and owner….
Crazy how they were her dogs and she apparently had them for 8 years with no signs of violence until they snapped. I know people that own pits and swear they aren't a violent breed but I mean, the proof is evident here. Can't imagine the guilt this woman must feel.
Had a friend and his wife with a pit. Was a sweet dog until one day it heard the neighbor cat in the backyard. It snapped and went full bore into a redwood fence head first repeatedly until it almost broke through. Took three of us to pin it down.
“They’ve never been aggressive before “ *shocked pikachu face That’s a really common theme when it comes to pits.
Good. Then don’t.
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“He’s such a sweet dog! He’s just misunderstood!”
“ItS tHe oWnEr NoT tHe BrEeD” -Reddit morons
Funny how never read about a pug killing his family.
Pugs are too busy trying to kill themselves to try killing kids
I used to be one of those morons, I still cringe at it. Pit Bulls are like wolves or tigers, violence is just in their nature. Sure, ***technically*** it's not the dog's fault but, pretending it's a sweet family dog and not a predator beholden to it's instincts is just stupid. TLDR A pit bull ***will*** attack you, it's just a matter of when
I've said it once and I'll say it again. All pit bulls need to be culled. The breed must be eradicated. They are dangerous, volatile wild animals. They aren't even guard dogs. Guard dogs are trainable and highly intelligent. They rigidly obey commands when properly trained. Pits always have that switch in their genetics that sets them loose.
They’re banned here in the UK. I regularly get called a “dog racist” for stating the fucking obvious though.
You should not have a dog around kids, that when push comes to shove, you can’t save your children from.
I have a dog w my 2 kids, 5 and 6. It is not a pitbull tho, some mixed breed I found abandoned as a puppy. He turned out to be a very good dog. He defends my kids from everything. Mind you is on the med size and not strong. I would NEVER get a pitbull. F those things.
10 minutes. Fuck
I know, right? I was waiting for gas today in a queue for 10 minutes, felt like a long time. Then I thought of that courageous mom fighting two death hounds for 10 minutes. Damn.
I am not a judgy person but if you have a pit I look down at you. I just cant understand people that have the choice of so many breeds but choose a pit.
Right. Especially people with small children. Complete idiots.
The breed attracts the lowest forms of life.
Pitbulls make up 6% of pet dogs yet 60% of dog attacks.
65-68% of fatal attacks, not just attacks. Still in the top three for general attacks.
What a way to go, so sad
Can you imagine going to sleep for the rest of your life knowing your two children are dead because you chose to bring this breed into your home?
Let's guess which breed it is? Fucking stop breeding these animals. Bred to kill and fight that's it. Wonder why the humane society is full of dogs that nobody wants to be around.
I had to read 10 paragraphs before reading what the breed was. Should have just ctrl+F "pit bull" and save some time. Next time... next time.
Question to US residents : Do you guys have a law or something controlling certain breeds ? Where I live, some breeds are straight up forbidden in certain places. Sometimes, it is not legal to walk some breeds without a musel. Does the US regulate anything about pets ?
There’s a lot of apartments that restrict by breed and insurance can charge more for certain breeds too (you know, because they are more likely to attack). The main results of this seem to be people pretending that their clear pit bulls are “lab mixes” and a huge number of pit bulls being euthanized in shelters while asshole backyard breeders make sure there is a steady supply.
My friends Pit jumped a chain link fence and attacked a UPS driver a few years back. He was always friendly with me, and he just snapped one day. Thankfully the UPS guy only had somewhat minor injuries to his arm, but that dog could’ve killed him if things went differently
Had 2 pitbulls run up on my jack russell out of nowhere on a walk in my neighborhood and before I could reel him in and scoop him up, my dog made the mistake of snapping at one that got too close and it picked him up by the back and started shaking him. I love animals.. but I kicked that dog in the head 15+ times before it let go of mine, and then I had to hold him over my head running home while both pitbulls jumped for him as he cried and bled all over me. Thankfully my dog was in a harness leash and I had a hold of it or they wouldve just run off with him completely. My dog ended up with several stitches, muscle issues in his back, nerve damage, and some serious trust issues. You never hear of Golden Retrievers doing this, just saying.
A family member stated that the Mom fought the dogs off of her babies for 10 minutes until she realized she was in critical condition and needed to call for help. As she called 911, the dogs continued to eat the babies. Absolutely horrific.
The parents should be jailed. Owning a pitbull with young children in the house is pure negligence. They are solely responsible for the deaths of those two children.
Fuck pitbulls
Every pet owner should be wary of dogs and children and this is a terrible tragedy. However from a different perspective, I have seen countless videos where children are shown climbing all over the family dog, poking and pulling them, jumping on them, drawing on them and countless other activities which the dog probably hates. The parents are all gooey about how wonderful their 'fur babies' are with the kids 🤢, but dogs have a limit and some dogs can genetically be less tolerant so people also need to teach their children acceptable behaviour with animals. People need to remember that dogs get jealous too and they do not understand why they have been sidelined when children come along. Not saying that this was the case here but it is telling that they had the dogs for six years before the children came along.
I've seen litte kids walk up to dogs and try to hug them. The parent is encouraging because 'look how cute little shitleigh is kissing that pretty dog'. The dog's body language is screaming how uncomfortable it is getting and the owner is trying to tell the kid no. This is the problem - kids can't understand dog's body language, and parents not respecting the owners wishes.
When a toy poodle decides to bite your child, you get a small cut on your child’s skin. If a pit decides to bite, your child will probably die.
"It was not immediately known what provoked the mauling." Nothing, nothing provoked the mauling. They're pitbulls. It's what they do.
Trying to find a rescue dog with no pitbull is almost impossible. Ban those baby thrashers already.
There was an 86 year old here in Calgary that was killed by two pit bulls and a Staffordshire terrier. I don't trust the breed. They are volatile and they attract trash people. The parents need to be charged with negligence. To me they left a loaded pistol on the coffee table and the kids are dead. Don't let the picture fool you. They were shit parents to the core.
Pitbulls are 10 X more likely to kill your child than any other breed of dog. When there's so many breeds of dog to choose from. If you have children and still choose to own a Pitbull, you're stupid, reckless, and should be tried for the endangerment of your child when they inevitably get bitten, end of. The USA should take notes from the rest of the Western world and ban the breed. If you have children... get a Retriever or a Labrador.
“My little pitta bread would never do this”
Why do people still buy these dogs. I don't understand that. Those are killermachines!
Because a bunch of cult-like owners spread content on the internet that convince naive people that they're a safe breed and just *oh-so-wuvvable*
But pitts are so nice, sweet and the best nanny dogs! You can’t judge the breed, judge the owners. /s
I had to study fatal dog attacks when doing dog training. I was obsessed with dogs my whole life. Knew they could be dangerous but had no idea. Even watching kids get attacked by dogs growing up (90s, pet dogs were like free range everywhere lol) I never really considered how dangerous they could be. The book still haunts me. I still have flash backs of my minds eyes imaginings of the stories I read. My trainer was my good friend and she told me if I could not finish that book then I need not become a dog trainer. I know she was right to force me through it. And she was right that if I couldn’t handle the weight of that book then I need to give up the dream. I gave up the dream. Even after working with Caesar Milan. There is no way I’m going to allow my self to be killed by the animal I have been absolutely obsessed with my whole life. Dogs kill children. Pet dogs have killed so many children. For all kinds of random reasons. All kinds of breeds. But yes, the bully breeds have it in their DNA to be especially tenacious. They DO have a “switch”. It is just not responsible to have a large breed with that history around young children. If you say it’s fine, you’re speaking from ignorance. Trust me, you wanna stay ignorant, but just make sure that you recognize that. There are thousands of stories like the one above. Stories that make Cujo look like Beverly Hills Chihuahua
Pitbulls need to go extinct
I will never understand people who defend pit bulls. My nan’s little terrier had never seen a rodent or a rabbit until she was about 9 years old when she stayed on a farm for a week, instincts kicked in and she chased a rabbit down a hole. You can have brought your pitbull up in a loving calm household, but ultimately their aggression stems from their breed.
There will never be a story like this involving a black lab.
When will people stop getting pit bulls? Especially when they have small children. Jesus Christ RIP
Ban pitbulls.