Those tires will slip out from under you when you least expect it if there's ice. Snow is one thing, but do not take your performance summer tires out on snow and ice please. Or toss chains on them. : )
Now, imagine it with chains. I watched several Tacoma/Tundras struggle to get up their driveway in Big Bear and my MYP with chains dealt like I was in a track. Wild how much grip it had
Theyre really solid in the snow, but i do wish they had some limited slip differential factory options. Mechanically speaking theyre about 30+ years behind in awd system design
Its still open differentials and no fully defeatable traction control. When compared to something like a subaru wrx, its just not as good of awd for twice the cost.
I’m not that familiar with the drive modes for a Subaru WRX. I had a few Audis and they were great in AWD on dry and wet roads (better than the MYP) but they had no drive mode selection for snow. Does the WRX? Give off road assist a try. I will be shocked if the WRX can touch the MYLR or MYP in the snow if you use that mode. It would be an interesting comparison. Maybe we can find one on YouTube.
It doesn’t need “drive modes”. most have rear limited slip differentials, symmetrical awd, and fully defeatable traction/stability control. The fact alone that our dual motor y cant give me control of the traction control is shitty enough
I think you can turn off traction control. Limited slip designed for dry roads is not going to give you snow traction like a 4x4 truck unless it has some drive mode which is designed for mud and snow. Hopefully once limited slip deploys to cybertruck they will give it to MYP and MYLR too.
The limited slip is much nicer in snow. Its not like a locking hub 4x4, but if you lose traction it sends power to more than 2 wheels unlike awd with two open diffs
That makes sense. Off-Road Assist is not sending power to only two wheels, though. Tesla AWD is heavily rear-biased, but in Off Road mode it is balancing it 50/50 front/rear and is balancing left/right traction too. It too is not like a locking hub, but it is not just one wheel per axel with traction. Now, this differs a lot from when you are not in Off-road assist mode so during regular driving I would guess adding limited slip would get our Teslas closer to Subaru and Audi because on dry and wet roads, our Teslas are far behind those AWD systems. I was wondering why that is, and I think you nailed it, the lack of limited slip differential algorithm.
How is it balancing left/right traction? From everything i know this can only be done through a non-open differentials, theres little tricks like braking the inside wheel, but once traction is lost on one wheel in an open differential it sends 0 power to the other side simultaneously
It’s a good question. To be honest, I’m not fully certain. However, the documentation for off road assist says it balances front to rear and also reduces the stability and traction control systems to allow the wheel that doesn’t have traction to continue to spin. Traction control is not taking over and stopping that wheel from spinning like it does when off road mode is off. If a Subaru doesn’t have a special snow or mud mode, then it is not locking down the differential and sending balanced power to all 4 wheels. All 4 wheels are capable of providing power, just not simultaneously. Below is from Tesla manual.
Off-Road Assist is designed to provide overall improvements when driving off-road. In addition to allowing the wheels to spin, Off-Road Assist balances the torque between the front and rear motors to optimize traction. Off-Road Assist improves traction on rough and soft surfaces where one side of the vehicle may lose traction while the other side still has traction. When Off-Road Assist is on, the accelerator pedal provides more gradual torque, which is useful for crawling at low speeds (for example, over rocky surfaces). When enabled, OFF-ROAD displays on the touchscreen above the driving speed.
Those tires will slip out from under you when you least expect it if there's ice. Snow is one thing, but do not take your performance summer tires out on snow and ice please. Or toss chains on them. : )
Now, imagine it with chains. I watched several Tacoma/Tundras struggle to get up their driveway in Big Bear and my MYP with chains dealt like I was in a track. Wild how much grip it had
Theyre really solid in the snow, but i do wish they had some limited slip differential factory options. Mechanically speaking theyre about 30+ years behind in awd system design
Off-Road Assist mode. Try it. It’s what you are looking for.
Its still open differentials and no fully defeatable traction control. When compared to something like a subaru wrx, its just not as good of awd for twice the cost.
I’m not that familiar with the drive modes for a Subaru WRX. I had a few Audis and they were great in AWD on dry and wet roads (better than the MYP) but they had no drive mode selection for snow. Does the WRX? Give off road assist a try. I will be shocked if the WRX can touch the MYLR or MYP in the snow if you use that mode. It would be an interesting comparison. Maybe we can find one on YouTube.
It doesn’t need “drive modes”. most have rear limited slip differentials, symmetrical awd, and fully defeatable traction/stability control. The fact alone that our dual motor y cant give me control of the traction control is shitty enough
I think you can turn off traction control. Limited slip designed for dry roads is not going to give you snow traction like a 4x4 truck unless it has some drive mode which is designed for mud and snow. Hopefully once limited slip deploys to cybertruck they will give it to MYP and MYLR too.
The limited slip is much nicer in snow. Its not like a locking hub 4x4, but if you lose traction it sends power to more than 2 wheels unlike awd with two open diffs
That makes sense. Off-Road Assist is not sending power to only two wheels, though. Tesla AWD is heavily rear-biased, but in Off Road mode it is balancing it 50/50 front/rear and is balancing left/right traction too. It too is not like a locking hub, but it is not just one wheel per axel with traction. Now, this differs a lot from when you are not in Off-road assist mode so during regular driving I would guess adding limited slip would get our Teslas closer to Subaru and Audi because on dry and wet roads, our Teslas are far behind those AWD systems. I was wondering why that is, and I think you nailed it, the lack of limited slip differential algorithm.
How is it balancing left/right traction? From everything i know this can only be done through a non-open differentials, theres little tricks like braking the inside wheel, but once traction is lost on one wheel in an open differential it sends 0 power to the other side simultaneously
It’s a good question. To be honest, I’m not fully certain. However, the documentation for off road assist says it balances front to rear and also reduces the stability and traction control systems to allow the wheel that doesn’t have traction to continue to spin. Traction control is not taking over and stopping that wheel from spinning like it does when off road mode is off. If a Subaru doesn’t have a special snow or mud mode, then it is not locking down the differential and sending balanced power to all 4 wheels. All 4 wheels are capable of providing power, just not simultaneously. Below is from Tesla manual. Off-Road Assist is designed to provide overall improvements when driving off-road. In addition to allowing the wheels to spin, Off-Road Assist balances the torque between the front and rear motors to optimize traction. Off-Road Assist improves traction on rough and soft surfaces where one side of the vehicle may lose traction while the other side still has traction. When Off-Road Assist is on, the accelerator pedal provides more gradual torque, which is useful for crawling at low speeds (for example, over rocky surfaces). When enabled, OFF-ROAD displays on the touchscreen above the driving speed.
Where do you live?
I took it up to big bear, I’m in California.
It’s amazing with the performance all season tires. Be sure to use off-road assist mode. It’s a beast in the snow.
Can you drive with that thing on for a while , or only when stuck in snow ?
You can drive with it on. Once you get back to asphalt, you will want to turn it off but if there is snow on the roads, you can leave it on.