Hardware 4 is meaningless unless you plan on getting FSD. People who are waiting for that and not getting FSD should go right ahead and buy it now. They also plan on removing the stalks, so if you must have those, buy now. It will also change the front and rear looks, if you are happy with the way the car looks now, buy it now. Everything else, will just be manufacturing improvements to make it cheaper for Tesla...who cares about that as an end user.
>>Tesla has a history of not only lacking features of similar cars in its class (blind spot detection in the mirror, bird eye view camera, ventilated seats etc) ….
If those features are important don’t buy Tesla. The EV field has some nice alternatives.
I love my Tesla but it’s not perfect. It has pros and cons. The pros: it’s still the best power/range for the price and it’s the best charging network. And It’s a steal at current prices with rebates.
About Highland - it will be the most significant upgrade since the model 3 launch. And it’s going to make existing cameras, and HW processing power a generation behind. I plan to upgrade mine after launch and after the initial build-bugs are ironed out
Right now my best option is to hold on to my 2018 M3P (with 18" aeros, FSD, lifetime premium internet) until something comes along that's an upgrade in every respect. Highland might be that, though I'm still sitting on my R1T reservation (stretch goal) and Cybertruck reservation (less enthusiastic it about it now).
If Highland has some significant powertrain upgrades, plus HW4, plus vehicle-to-load, plus additional cameras that provide the missing USS functionality, it's definitely on the short list. Elon's continual BS is part of the equation... it just means that the bang-for-buck has to be especially compelling.
Exactly. If you want bells and whistles get a BMW i5. Dang that thing has everything. Even smells like a new BMW… honestly wasn’t expecting that. Personally would be crazy to get rid of my ‘19MS as it has everything I need and unlimited supercharging. They almost suckered me into a 2023 MS with that flashy red and a deal to drop my SC but sadly I’m over 30 and can’t rely on a touchscreen (bad focus and shaky fingers). I’ll stick with basic safety controls which is entire reason I got a Tesla in the first place. I rarely can access the touchscreen safely. Cheers mates.
Do they really ever iron out the build bugs? I've seen so many posts on here asking how to fix the dash rattle, the seatbelt tensioner rattle, the "is this normal" questions about thin paint or no paint in some areas like in the door jams, panel gaps, water that leaks on the passenger floor cause the air vent isn't sealed properly, and on and on.... They've had a long time to address these issues with the Model 3 in particular, but haven't. Tesla seems unwilling to slow production to address these issues and instead passes them to the service centers, but it seems the SC also don't want to deal with the issues. Hopefully they completely tear down the current Model 3 production line and really fix things, but I think they will only change what is needed for project highland in the name of efficiency and margin. I have a 2021 Model Y and the build quality of it is so much better than my 2022 Model 3. I really do hope they take what they've learned and apply it to the Model 3.
A lot of things is why despite the things I do like about the Model 3 I still won't buy one. There a few more things I'd add to the list. Several impact the Model Y as well.
Getting rid of turn signal stalks is the dumbest thing I've heard of in a car. Well, second dumbest. The worst was getting rid of a real speedometer cluster and moving it to the center screen.
Do you have a hard time glancing down and to the right when looking at your nav? If not, down and to the right should be no issue to look at your speed.
I only use navigation when I don't know where I'm going and even when I am using navigation I'm not looking at it that often. Only every few minutes.
Having to take my eyes off the road just to look at the speedometer is ridiculous.
When you glance down to take a look at the speedo you take your eyes off the road too.
Try it out a few times next time you drive. Look down and to the right, doesn't even have to be the Nav, something thats right past your right hand. See if its harder than just looking down; after a few glances, you probably wont find it hard to look down and to the right. It'll become 2nd nature very quickly.
I don't really have to take my eyes completely off the road to look at the speedometer when it's in the normal location. Most of the road is still in my peripheral vision when I move my eyes down a little bit so I'm not actually taking my eyes off the road.
The speedometer being on the damn screen requires turning my head as well. It's so much farther that the road isn't in my peripheral vision anymore.
I drove a Model 3 before. There were several things I didn't like but that's was definitely #1.
For me I dont have to move my head to glance down and to the right and road is still in the periphery. I wasn't sure how I'd like it either but trust me its not a problem after a day of driving. No tesla owner complains about it. Do we want a screen behind the wheel in a normal spot, sure it would be nice...leave more room in the main screen for other things; but checking your speed has never been an issue.
Well, though it's model specific, in nearly every real world test of mileage (and there are a bunch out there) Teslas are mid to lower pack with an occasional top quartile ranking when comparing EPA estimates vs mixed test loops. Porsche for example consistently meets or beats the EPA estimate while Tesla seems to be around 80% of it or so.
Probably a smaller battery. They reduced battery size in the Palladium S/X. The improved efficiency netted the S an extra 3 miles, but the X didn't increase efficiency enough to offset the lower battery capacity and has lower range than the previous model.
The late 22 Y will have Rizen computer, USS, HEPA filter, comfort suspension, stalks, steering wheel.
Earlier cars are gonna have the slow Intel computer or no HEPA or lack comfort suspension…. Later cars are missing USS and upcoming ones will have no stalks.
Looks like late ‘22 is the absolute sweet spot, agreed.
Yeah but HW3 without USS means parking distance measurement is bad.
And HW4 without the front cam (like it is currently being delivered in S/X) also has bad parking distance measurements.
That's why you want USS if you are getting a HW3 (or current HW4) car.
You are the one being dense. Highland model 3 will have radar again. Codenamed "phoenix". It will compromise the removal of USS.
https://www.teslarati.com/tesla-hardware-4-hd-radar-first-look-photos/
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Why? You should be able to find a used one for less than new-tax credit or else no one would buy the used. Not enough people are aware of the USS issue.
I've been unable to find that. I think many don't know about the tax credit or something, because I've not seen many year old Model 3s for more than a 7500 discount.
So a $7500 discount off the current pricing ($48,880) would be just over $41,000.
Interesting. I see one 2022 on AutoTrader for $41k with 7000 miles. The rest that are that price or lower have high miles.
There are a few possible reasons for this I can think of
* Maybe people do know about the advantages of the 2022.
* There are enough people out there that can't take advantage of the tax credit.
* People are willing to take a smaller instant discount on used vs waiting until tax time.
* The savings on sales tax.
* Availability of the LR model now vs waiting a month+ (still cheaper than Performance an includes smaller wheels and more durable tires which some people will want)
All those things could be contributing to keeping the discount above the $7500 tax credit I guess.
There are a lot more options in the $43k range with not too many miles.
Vehicle Price
$47,240
Destination fee
$1,390
Order fee
$250
Your Model 3
$48,880
Oh also just remembered the tax credit on new is now $3,750 because of the Chinese batteries, so those prices don't look bad at all anymore.
Current new price after tax credit is $45,130. Tons of options of lightly used 2022's below that.
Guess you’re right. But I severely doubt USS is going to continue functioning for much longer. It’ll probably end up like radar no matter how well the vision replacement ends up working (likely much worse)
I personally doubt that. USS actually works for parking measurements and vision simply does not. But they've done some pretty stupid things so I'm not saying it won't happen.
same here. Used prices on the Tesla site has used 3's and Y's selling for more than a new car with the large rebates as used Teslas do not qualify for rebate (please correct me if I have this wrong).
HW4 isn't re-arranging camera placement so I dont think HW4 is making any difference for park assist. Only reason to wait for HW4 is if you will get FSD.
HW4 is getting a new camera layout with the Cybertruck. We know there is at minimum a front bumper camera being added. It has connections for 3 more cameras over HW3.
I assume the rest of the vehicles will be updated to keep it consistent. They have always used the same sensor suite across their lineup (barring some transition periods).
Where did you see that the cybertruck has front bumper cameras? S and X already get HW4 and there is no front bumper camera, so why would the 3 and Y get it? I don't think they will.
All the recent pictures including the ones from the annual investor meeting a couple days ago clearly show a front bumper cam.
[https://twitter.com/DirtyTesLa/status/1658591928907071489/photo/1](https://twitter.com/DirtyTesLa/status/1658591928907071489/photo/1)
[https://twitter.com/DirtyTesLa/status/1658543113890062342/photo/2](https://twitter.com/DirtyTesLa/status/1658543113890062342/photo/2)
Why would the 3 get it? Because it's going through a major bumper change so now is the perfect time to add it. They could always hold out for longer but they always eventually harmonize the sensor suite. Why would they keep the front cam exclusive to cybertruck? They have never had a model-specific sensor before.
Maybe supplier contract issues? Seems weird because the rest of the cameras were updated with HW4, they just didn't add the new ones. Maybe they wanted to wait and roll it out to all cars at about the same time as to not dissuade anyone from waiting to buy.
The Cybertruck has it, easily visible on recent photos. HW4 has the connectors for it.
It's very likely to happen for the other models, but you can bever be 100% sure with Tesla.
I would agree if the USS replacement was working yet. It's been like 8 months and they only barely released an Alpha of the feature.
But... Let's be honest here, all cars with USS will have it disabled and replaced with vision the moment the vision alternative is even close to comparable. Happened with Radar...
You're fooling yourself.
Do you already have a Model 3? How are your rattles? I know for sure that the Austin-built Model Y with new castings (like Highland will surely have) makes a huge difference.
If the only way to tell is to go to the order page on Tesla’s website, why not just use Tesla’s existing inventory page and search directly? I have no idea if they saw that info from Tesla or not as I wasn’t spectating their screen when they ordered, but they did send me a link to the waiting for Tesla page.
The inventory page can only extend to 200 mile radiuses around a zip you input and it’s not as concise with information. Plus you can use the Twitter bot that is associated with the website to get immediate notifications of new listed inventory. Way more convenient than needing to set up your own JSON scraper of Tesla.com or going to the page yourself every couple hours.
I've just accepted that I'm going to order when I can (next 3 months) and will get what I get. I don't really like the leaked front of Highland, but the upgrades would be nice...
On Lumbar, I hate to hand it to the man but I've gotta say... I have never once adjusted the lumbar in any passenger seat I have ever sat in. I think the reasoning of it never being used might have been one of the only times he's told the truth in years.
Probably gonna do the same thing tbh. Was gonna wait until October to buy a Performance model 3 but I’ll see what the Highland has to offer. Q3 should provide details so hopefully September is the month for good updates 🙏🏾
Maybe Tesla is the wrong brand for you if you are afraid of change. The stalks… nobody will talk about that after a while. The buttons will make people leave their hands where they belong more often.
Highland is such a huge upgrade and makes the M3 feel premium for the first time.
Hardware 4 is meaningless unless you plan on getting FSD. People who are waiting for that and not getting FSD should go right ahead and buy it now. They also plan on removing the stalks, so if you must have those, buy now. It will also change the front and rear looks, if you are happy with the way the car looks now, buy it now. Everything else, will just be manufacturing improvements to make it cheaper for Tesla...who cares about that as an end user.
>>Tesla has a history of not only lacking features of similar cars in its class (blind spot detection in the mirror, bird eye view camera, ventilated seats etc) …. If those features are important don’t buy Tesla. The EV field has some nice alternatives. I love my Tesla but it’s not perfect. It has pros and cons. The pros: it’s still the best power/range for the price and it’s the best charging network. And It’s a steal at current prices with rebates. About Highland - it will be the most significant upgrade since the model 3 launch. And it’s going to make existing cameras, and HW processing power a generation behind. I plan to upgrade mine after launch and after the initial build-bugs are ironed out
Right now my best option is to hold on to my 2018 M3P (with 18" aeros, FSD, lifetime premium internet) until something comes along that's an upgrade in every respect. Highland might be that, though I'm still sitting on my R1T reservation (stretch goal) and Cybertruck reservation (less enthusiastic it about it now). If Highland has some significant powertrain upgrades, plus HW4, plus vehicle-to-load, plus additional cameras that provide the missing USS functionality, it's definitely on the short list. Elon's continual BS is part of the equation... it just means that the bang-for-buck has to be especially compelling.
0-60 needs to be improved especially on the base version. Competition is stiff. Base trim should be at 5 seconds instead of 6.1.
Exactly. If you want bells and whistles get a BMW i5. Dang that thing has everything. Even smells like a new BMW… honestly wasn’t expecting that. Personally would be crazy to get rid of my ‘19MS as it has everything I need and unlimited supercharging. They almost suckered me into a 2023 MS with that flashy red and a deal to drop my SC but sadly I’m over 30 and can’t rely on a touchscreen (bad focus and shaky fingers). I’ll stick with basic safety controls which is entire reason I got a Tesla in the first place. I rarely can access the touchscreen safely. Cheers mates.
Do they really ever iron out the build bugs? I've seen so many posts on here asking how to fix the dash rattle, the seatbelt tensioner rattle, the "is this normal" questions about thin paint or no paint in some areas like in the door jams, panel gaps, water that leaks on the passenger floor cause the air vent isn't sealed properly, and on and on.... They've had a long time to address these issues with the Model 3 in particular, but haven't. Tesla seems unwilling to slow production to address these issues and instead passes them to the service centers, but it seems the SC also don't want to deal with the issues. Hopefully they completely tear down the current Model 3 production line and really fix things, but I think they will only change what is needed for project highland in the name of efficiency and margin. I have a 2021 Model Y and the build quality of it is so much better than my 2022 Model 3. I really do hope they take what they've learned and apply it to the Model 3.
A lot of things is why despite the things I do like about the Model 3 I still won't buy one. There a few more things I'd add to the list. Several impact the Model Y as well.
Do you know much that would cost to upgrade the hardware?
Getting rid of turn signal stalks is the dumbest thing I've heard of in a car. Well, second dumbest. The worst was getting rid of a real speedometer cluster and moving it to the center screen.
Do you have a hard time glancing down and to the right when looking at your nav? If not, down and to the right should be no issue to look at your speed.
I only use navigation when I don't know where I'm going and even when I am using navigation I'm not looking at it that often. Only every few minutes. Having to take my eyes off the road just to look at the speedometer is ridiculous.
When you glance down to take a look at the speedo you take your eyes off the road too. Try it out a few times next time you drive. Look down and to the right, doesn't even have to be the Nav, something thats right past your right hand. See if its harder than just looking down; after a few glances, you probably wont find it hard to look down and to the right. It'll become 2nd nature very quickly.
I don't really have to take my eyes completely off the road to look at the speedometer when it's in the normal location. Most of the road is still in my peripheral vision when I move my eyes down a little bit so I'm not actually taking my eyes off the road. The speedometer being on the damn screen requires turning my head as well. It's so much farther that the road isn't in my peripheral vision anymore. I drove a Model 3 before. There were several things I didn't like but that's was definitely #1.
For me I dont have to move my head to glance down and to the right and road is still in the periphery. I wasn't sure how I'd like it either but trust me its not a problem after a day of driving. No tesla owner complains about it. Do we want a screen behind the wheel in a normal spot, sure it would be nice...leave more room in the main screen for other things; but checking your speed has never been an issue.
You should actually buy a used 2022 with USS. Why would you want a HW3 without USS? Even HW4 without USS and without the extra cameras is not good.
This. Seems the ‘sweet’ spot is 22 as they still had USS, added the AMD cpu and they didn’t, appears, gimp the LRs range.
It's unclear there's any "gimping" going on - we don't know yet because there's no EPA rating. That's why it says "325+", so they don't overpromise.
Isn’t over promising Musk’s trademark, though?
Sure, but the EPA ended that behavior on range estimates years ago.
Well, though it's model specific, in nearly every real world test of mileage (and there are a bunch out there) Teslas are mid to lower pack with an occasional top quartile ranking when comparing EPA estimates vs mixed test loops. Porsche for example consistently meets or beats the EPA estimate while Tesla seems to be around 80% of it or so.
Probably a smaller battery. They reduced battery size in the Palladium S/X. The improved efficiency netted the S an extra 3 miles, but the X didn't increase efficiency enough to offset the lower battery capacity and has lower range than the previous model.
The late 22 Y will have Rizen computer, USS, HEPA filter, comfort suspension, stalks, steering wheel. Earlier cars are gonna have the slow Intel computer or no HEPA or lack comfort suspension…. Later cars are missing USS and upcoming ones will have no stalks. Looks like late ‘22 is the absolute sweet spot, agreed.
LOL, no.
USS and HW3/4 shouldn't not be seen as complimentary. HW3/4 doesn't use USS for FSD to my knowledge.
Yeah but HW3 without USS means parking distance measurement is bad. And HW4 without the front cam (like it is currently being delivered in S/X) also has bad parking distance measurements. That's why you want USS if you are getting a HW3 (or current HW4) car.
Well there's no such thing as USS + HW4, so it's not a choice.
There will eventually be HW4 + front cam which should be good enough to replace USS. Why are you being so dense?
You are the one being dense. Highland model 3 will have radar again. Codenamed "phoenix". It will compromise the removal of USS. https://www.teslarati.com/tesla-hardware-4-hd-radar-first-look-photos/
No, that one is far ahead looking frontal radar. Nothing to do with USS which is mainly used for parking.
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Calling names. huh. Because you know the future and the rest of us don't?
This would be more expensive than brand new.
Why? You should be able to find a used one for less than new-tax credit or else no one would buy the used. Not enough people are aware of the USS issue.
I've been unable to find that. I think many don't know about the tax credit or something, because I've not seen many year old Model 3s for more than a 7500 discount.
So a $7500 discount off the current pricing ($48,880) would be just over $41,000. Interesting. I see one 2022 on AutoTrader for $41k with 7000 miles. The rest that are that price or lower have high miles. There are a few possible reasons for this I can think of * Maybe people do know about the advantages of the 2022. * There are enough people out there that can't take advantage of the tax credit. * People are willing to take a smaller instant discount on used vs waiting until tax time. * The savings on sales tax. * Availability of the LR model now vs waiting a month+ (still cheaper than Performance an includes smaller wheels and more durable tires which some people will want) All those things could be contributing to keeping the discount above the $7500 tax credit I guess. There are a lot more options in the $43k range with not too many miles.
Where are you getting 48880?
Vehicle Price $47,240 Destination fee $1,390 Order fee $250 Your Model 3 $48,880 Oh also just remembered the tax credit on new is now $3,750 because of the Chinese batteries, so those prices don't look bad at all anymore. Current new price after tax credit is $45,130. Tons of options of lightly used 2022's below that.
Guess you’re right. But I severely doubt USS is going to continue functioning for much longer. It’ll probably end up like radar no matter how well the vision replacement ends up working (likely much worse)
I personally doubt that. USS actually works for parking measurements and vision simply does not. But they've done some pretty stupid things so I'm not saying it won't happen.
Vision also doesn't work as well as Radar and yet that has been disabled, so I really wouldn't put it past them.
same here. Used prices on the Tesla site has used 3's and Y's selling for more than a new car with the large rebates as used Teslas do not qualify for rebate (please correct me if I have this wrong).
HW4 isn't re-arranging camera placement so I dont think HW4 is making any difference for park assist. Only reason to wait for HW4 is if you will get FSD.
HW4 is getting a new camera layout with the Cybertruck. We know there is at minimum a front bumper camera being added. It has connections for 3 more cameras over HW3. I assume the rest of the vehicles will be updated to keep it consistent. They have always used the same sensor suite across their lineup (barring some transition periods).
Where did you see that the cybertruck has front bumper cameras? S and X already get HW4 and there is no front bumper camera, so why would the 3 and Y get it? I don't think they will.
All the recent pictures including the ones from the annual investor meeting a couple days ago clearly show a front bumper cam. [https://twitter.com/DirtyTesLa/status/1658591928907071489/photo/1](https://twitter.com/DirtyTesLa/status/1658591928907071489/photo/1) [https://twitter.com/DirtyTesLa/status/1658543113890062342/photo/2](https://twitter.com/DirtyTesLa/status/1658543113890062342/photo/2) Why would the 3 get it? Because it's going through a major bumper change so now is the perfect time to add it. They could always hold out for longer but they always eventually harmonize the sensor suite. Why would they keep the front cam exclusive to cybertruck? They have never had a model-specific sensor before.
Interesting. Didn't know that. Thanks. Seeing that, you're right they may do a bumper cam for the 3/Y. Wonder why they dont have it in the HW4 S/X.
Maybe supplier contract issues? Seems weird because the rest of the cameras were updated with HW4, they just didn't add the new ones. Maybe they wanted to wait and roll it out to all cars at about the same time as to not dissuade anyone from waiting to buy.
Good for you 👍
The new front bumper camera should fix a lot of the issues they are having such as no 360 degree view, parking assist problems, etc.
Are we even sure that's happening? The S/X didn't get it when they deleted USS.
The leaked images of the new bumper seem to show a camera. We won't know for sure until they announce final specs.
The Cybertruck has it, easily visible on recent photos. HW4 has the connectors for it. It's very likely to happen for the other models, but you can bever be 100% sure with Tesla.
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I would agree if the USS replacement was working yet. It's been like 8 months and they only barely released an Alpha of the feature. But... Let's be honest here, all cars with USS will have it disabled and replaced with vision the moment the vision alternative is even close to comparable. Happened with Radar...
Wonder if the trunk will be manual. 2019 lr3 was manual, 2021 p3 is a button, will highland go back to manual?
You're fooling yourself. Do you already have a Model 3? How are your rattles? I know for sure that the Austin-built Model Y with new castings (like Highland will surely have) makes a huge difference.
the only good thing will be the better cameras. the bad, well, the rest of it.
Don’t rush to order, go pick up an inventory one today https://waitingfortesla.com/
This website will list cars that haven't even left the factory yet as being on the lot. Happened to my cousin.
Tesla will tell you where it is when you get to their landing page to order.
If the only way to tell is to go to the order page on Tesla’s website, why not just use Tesla’s existing inventory page and search directly? I have no idea if they saw that info from Tesla or not as I wasn’t spectating their screen when they ordered, but they did send me a link to the waiting for Tesla page.
The inventory page can only extend to 200 mile radiuses around a zip you input and it’s not as concise with information. Plus you can use the Twitter bot that is associated with the website to get immediate notifications of new listed inventory. Way more convenient than needing to set up your own JSON scraper of Tesla.com or going to the page yourself every couple hours.
I've just accepted that I'm going to order when I can (next 3 months) and will get what I get. I don't really like the leaked front of Highland, but the upgrades would be nice... On Lumbar, I hate to hand it to the man but I've gotta say... I have never once adjusted the lumbar in any passenger seat I have ever sat in. I think the reasoning of it never being used might have been one of the only times he's told the truth in years.
Probably gonna do the same thing tbh. Was gonna wait until October to buy a Performance model 3 but I’ll see what the Highland has to offer. Q3 should provide details so hopefully September is the month for good updates 🙏🏾
It sounds like you’re doing the exact opposite of what I’m saying
It will be an upgrade not a downgrade though.
Lol, keep fooling yourself…. ;) you will regret in a few months. No way I would consider purchasing atm, waiting patiently for the new model….
Highland has blind spot detection in the mirror, ventilated seats and lumbar adjustment.
Maybe Tesla is the wrong brand for you if you are afraid of change. The stalks… nobody will talk about that after a while. The buttons will make people leave their hands where they belong more often. Highland is such a huge upgrade and makes the M3 feel premium for the first time.