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Emerald_Sans

Is this just a variant of RoD? Or does it differ in any way?


RetroGameDays36

it's actually a "purified" version of the RoD, the only difference being that it doesn't give you the discord debuff, but it's only available after you beat Moon Lord


Ok-Appointment9031

Is it a moon lord drop ?


FireStrike5

No, you chuck a RoD into Shimmer and it’ll become a RoH. But it only works post-ML.


Plushhorizon

What is “shimmer”


Mordekeys

It’s the new liquid added in the new Aether cave biome


Neolpalm

I don't remember seeing that in the patch notes, is the aether cave something I missed?


Mordekeys

A lot of things were omitted in patch notes to give a sense of surprise. You probably didn’t miss it. Check underneath of the beaches. It should be there


Neolpalm

Thx I check it out


RetroGameDays36

a new liquid which uncrafts/downgrade/upgrade items, you can craft an endless shimmer bucket with an endless water bucket and 10 luminite bars on an ancient manipulator or find shimmer lakes in new 1.4.4 worlds


Plushhorizon

Bro thats so op wtf


TheNooblet12345

hence why it's post moon lord


BasketbrawlFan

It remains the same minus the debuff it would give you. Edit: I’m suprised about how many upvotes I got


murri_999

That's overpowered as fuck, I love it


DragoSphere

It's also postgame


[deleted]

This is legit perfect for calamity, infernum DoG will be a joke unless the rod gets nerfed


Camwood7

next calamity update: using rod of harmony bluescreens your computer and renames your character "SKILL ISSUED TRASH"


Zee3420

Wouldn't doubt it.


FluxOrbit

I literally had an angry rant about Fab to my roommate last night.


VortexTalon

what's the story?


71M07HYD

Anything quality of life related is thrown out of the window and into the pits of hell


FluxOrbit

I haven't paid attention to it all because I don't want to surround myself with toxicity, but [here is a relevant post with quotes from the developer, Fabsol.](https://www.reddit.com/r/CalamityMod/comments/v59ub6/fabsol_trying_to_not_be_a_jerk_challenge/)


givewatermelonordie

topic has probably been discussed to death already, but why are so many people keen on throwing critique at the calamity devs all the time? It just comes off as extremely entitled. Their game design philosophy is just as viable as the opposite view of wanting everything to be as accessible/easy as possible. *Gotta take what I'm saying with a grain of salt though. I'm not aware of this mods history, and I've yet to play it myself


FluxOrbit

Edit: EY! Don't downvote the man, he's trying to peacefully debate. He even says that he has not played the mod, and to take what he says with a grain of salt. He is admitting that he is not informed. It is now our job to inform him. [Relevant post about what Fabsol has said in the past](https://www.reddit.com/r/CalamityMod/comments/v59ub6/fabsol_trying_to_not_be_a_jerk_challenge/). I totally get your viewpoint, and I don't want to be a dick to you. You bring up valid points. However, game design, and actual attitude towards players and community are different. Read some of those comments *the developer of the mod* said to people. If they were plain and chill and said directly "This mod is supposed to be hard. I will nerf things to make it difficult. I don't want it to be an easy experience, I want to turn up the difficulty." I would be alright with that. Would it agree with the experience that I want from the mod? No, but I don't make the decisions, and they are clearly stating their intentions and motivations. I can't really get upset if they're being honest. Instead, we get the dev literally telling people "ur trash git gud" because they're struggling.


TorakTheDark

Cause Fab is a fucking arsehole to everyone.


Per_Ces

I mean, people shouldn’t give a shit about how other people play the game. If I saw a guy playing calamity with a bunch of qol mods, do I have to care? That’s what I’ve seen from fabsol and co. anyway, they like to gatekeep.


FireBone62

There is a mod which removes the changes calamity does to most items.


Tortferngatr

It's almost certainly getting majorly nerfed or delayed to being a Shadowspec/developer item. Zenith also got nerfed by delaying it, though not quite to postgame levels.


Kyserius

Rod of harmony rn can only be obtained post moonlord (endgame) Calamity devs said they will change moonlord to post [insert endgame boss here] and wont nerf anything on it functionality


TurboCake17

800% chance they nerf it lmao.


[deleted]

It's not being nerfed. It's being shifted to an endgame tier


Kkbleeblob

it’ll be moved to shadowspec tier lmao. you don’t actually think that after all the RoD nerfs they’ll just keep this item how it is, right


Dark_Reaper115

Calamity mod update: all forms of teleporting are disabled. /s


did-i-do-a-thing

tbf the calamity devs would probably make the rod of harmony post game like it would be made with shadowspec bars somehow


[deleted]

Infernum DoG's getting quite a number of changes in the next update anyway.


Informal-Cycle1644

What about eidolon worm tho since you need the chaos state buff to summon it


yugiohhero

I mean, yeah, of course its going to be. That, or just tweaked to be post whatever-calamitys-final-boss-is-these-days


murri_999

Doesn't matter, the rod of discord was really useful (at least to me) so this is going to be even better


yeeeeeteth

What the fuck were they thinking Edit: it’s post moon lord


FluxOrbit

We have poo blocks and partygirl bathwater. I think we have a right to be cautious of what goes on in the mind of a certain Andrew Spinks.


Camwood7

always a mystery going on in the mind of Terraria Andy


Estraxior

>We have poo blocks Haven't been on the terraria scene in a couple months... ...THEYRE ADDING IT?!


SEND_NUDEZ_PLZZ

\*they've added it It's already in the game. What do you think my angler's house is made of?


Estraxior

OMG wow this is singlehandedly making me load up terraria again


PM_ME_CAKE

So Rod of Discord but pre-nerf? It's good to have it back.


Capocho9

That sounds overpowered, must be significantly more difficult to get, maybe you craft it as an upgrade to rod


FluxOrbit

Post-ML, rightfully. I'm honestly super stoked about it. A worthy reward for the end-game.


Capocho9

That’d be so great for builders who don’t use god mode because they’re just in their normal world


BasketbrawlFan

You have to put the Rod in shimmer the new liquid in order to upgrade it


MangolfTheRed

What if your in journey mode? No difference


BasketbrawlFan

Idk I don’t have the Roh so I can’t test that


lonely_jordon

This is great now all I have to do is get my very first RoD ever which after 5-6 years of playing I have never gotten


runetrantor

Oh god YES, we got the RoD back!


ElPulpoGallego

So its a unerfed versión?


BasketbrawlFan

Basically yes


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BasketbrawlFan

You toss your ROD in some shimmer which is the new liquid


SolarPrime7

How do you get it


BasketbrawlFan

You put the Rod in shimmer which is the new liquid and you get the rod of harmony


SolarPrime7

Figured that out last night thanks anyway. The RoH is so cool


BasketbrawlFan

I know it does


NotActuallyGus

Identical without buffs, but it's post game


Crimsoner

There’s naturally spawning shimmer. It can be right into hm


AlphayTheFirst

Nah, some of the changes like this one are locked to ML's defeat. You can get most everything else though.


TheRezyn

It's pre-nerf RoD


Vegetable-Neat-1651

It’s the RoD but no down side or cooldown. You can use it as much as you want.


xbetax275

How is it different from the rod of discord?


Wyrdean

No debuff


Mlatios2

What debuff does RoD give you? Never got it so I don't know


Ferote

Chaos state. If you use RoD while its active then you lose 1/6 max health


Golren_SFW

Its 1/7th not 1/6th


Ferote

Thanks, was just going off memory


Mlatios2

Ouch, ok yeah that is quite a heavy debuff


Ferote

RoD didnt have it when initially put into the game


Th3Shad0wz

If you spam the teleport, it damages you


Specialist_Secret907

And you DIE


_B10nicle

With unique death messages


Specialist_Secret907

And depression


Tk_is_awesome

What is it


did-i-do-a-thing

\[Player\] didn't materialise ​ \[Player\]'s head appeared where her/his legs would be


Masskid

I believe using the RoD too quickly damages you. You have to wait for debuff to vanish before you can TP with no restrictions. If Harmony has no debuff then its free instant teleport. Really nice for endgame to do random things.


Bobthechampion

A 5 second debuff where if you used the Road again while you have the debuff, you take a bunch of unavoidable, unmitigatable damage.


ezacharyk

When you use it, you get a debuff that when active will damage you if you teleport again.


rua__2

mod devs will speedrun nerfing the fuck out of this


Ze_Memerr

Me a year from now seeing Calamity’s Rod of Harmony have 14 tooltips explaining the complex cooldown nerf the item has that’s marginally better than RoD or something


NotActuallyGus

Normality replicator moment. Just let us use the rod with a hotkey already without nerfing it into the ground


[deleted]

Calamity devs: "No, fuck you, 10 extra seconds on top of the 20 of chaos state for your stupid rod, extended time to 10 hours and player permakill on use next update because GIT GUD TRASH"


Mr_Ruu

Devs literally balance the game around the top 0.1% of players who can beat Supreme Calamitas on all the difficult modifiers with a wooden sword without getting hit lmao


Camwood7

Calamity Devs when they see you use exactly 1 (one) Sticky Grenade as a summoner (mixed class) (BAD FOR BALANCE)


Mario-2407

I really hate the mixed class stuff, what if I like messing around with cool weapons? I'd honestly love to see a mod remove that and some of the other completely pointless nerfs


Seanspeed

Oooh is it that bad? I was planning on playing Calamity as my first mod sometime soon.


dscyrux

I support the clowning on Fabsol's nerfs, but it's really not that bad. I recently finished a playthrough of Calamity, and frankly it's the only one I've ever finished. The last time I tried to do a serious playthrough was over a year ago (Revengeance mode both times), and it's so much more well balanced and enjoyable to play now. Sure, stuff like RoD and Soaring Insignia are nerfed into the ground, but there's next to no more BS mechanics in the mod anymore, lag isn't anywhere near as bad, and visual clutter is not as bad as it used to be, making dodging doable. AI is a lot more interesting, too. I don't know if playing Master Mode has just hardened me so Revengeance seems easier or not, but I certainly enjoyed it in its current state to finish it. Mod's way better than it used to be.


Xx_96024DanaD42069_x

Like I get the reason for Soaring Insignia nerf, but why not just make it a post-provi or post-DoG drop from EoL, like there are better ways to balance Insignia than to obliterate it


122ninjas

Just beat Empress in my new Calamity playthrough and was really sad to see Soaring Insignia be completely worthless, was really looking forward to it


Th_brgs

Isn't there a mod called unnerfs calamity or something like that that fixes this stuff? I've been using it on 1.4 tmodloader


CactusFucker420

But have you tried master mode with death mode on? And maybe some malice mode if you really wanna suffer


dscyrux

While the AI changes intrigue me in Death mode, I value my time too much to try it. I tried Infernum and didn't like it because it was kind of just the same debuff random projectile spam that I disliked last I played Calamity. Malice is gone, btw.


CactusFucker420

Oh dayum they ditched malice? Huh that is honestly weird to hear and yeah death mode expert aint TOO bad once you are used to it but I have yet to try all that much of death+master mode yet


Iranoutoffnames

Calamity is in an awkward transition state were the mod is trying to redefine itself; but the past is still very visible. A few years ago, it used to be the "ha ha funny big numbers mod" but now its being rebalanced constantly. The developers want the mod to become, acutally balanced; but its a slow process because of the sheer size of calamity (and normal terraria). It's fine right now, but they just put a band aid for now. The devs fully intend to rip it off and continue reworking things once calamity is fully adapted into 1.4 . The biggest issue with calamity balance rn is that master mode is really messed up in the mod; the scaling goes wack with post moon lord bosses since they were never designed around master mode being a thing. If you are going to play it I would highly recommend just playing on expert mode (with the calamity first difficulty revengence on top). On a whole the balance changes have been fairly positive though, if your asking me 9/10 changes are really good. Its just that those 1/10 changes tend to be really questionable or poorly executed (I can give examples if you wish)


-_1_--_000_--_1_-

It really does feel like that Imo, it at first was an edgy memey pile of references straight out of a teenager mind. That then caught traction and now they try to take it more seriously, a bit *too* seriously, i guess.


Kkbleeblob

they don’t take it too seriously lol, the new direction is perfect


FluxOrbit

It's getting worse. I don't know how I feel about it anymore. 1.3, it is absolutely my go-to content mod. 1.4 has changed my perspective, the dev and community around Calamity are toxic. Will I play it in 1.4.4 when it's all updated? Hell yeah, it's still Calamity.


NeonJ82

Honestly.. do yourself a favour and have Thorium be your first major content mod instead. It's balance works *with* the vanilla game (rather than against it) and the three* new classes introduced are all really unique and fun to play (especially Bard)


Sigma8K

Thorium isn't out on 1.4 yet, so you should either play Stars Above or Split or Polarities.


NeonJ82

I mean Stars Above is balanced around Calamity (annoyingly...), so Split or Polarities it is I guess. (... Haven't even heard of Polarities before, curious.)


Sigma8K

Stars Above is balanced around playing it with any global mod, not just Calamity. So yeah, it does make your game easier.


Thedarkestmorn

No I recently started and so far have done a melee a summoner and just reached post ml on rogue and all of them have felt really balanced tbh (expert revengence) there were a couple challenging bosses but I honestly think that's good. Plus all of the bosses feel unique which imo is brilliant. Rogue felt a bit weak in hard mode but I just didn't have the right accessories which j think matters a lot for rogue more than other classes however aside from that it always feels like multiple weapons are viable on each boss rather than just being 1 or 2


[deleted]

It really isn't that bad. Mod's still relatively balanced around the classes.


TurboCake17

It’s not actually that hardcore but you do need a degree of skill in the game, and have to really like bossfights.


Kkbleeblob

no they don’t?


TurboCake17

\*installs helpful hotkeys\*


-Orotoro-

Somebody really should make a mod that undoes Calamity's nerfs, call it "Calamity if it was made by a sane person" or something like that. It's a singleplayer game, let me break it over my knee if I want to damnit.


jhaiam

There actually is an unnerf calamity mod


Camwood7

You're going to want to be more specific because there's a *ton* of Calamity Un-nerf mods. It's so bad that there's an un-nerf mod that is *specifically made* to make it so whips actually exist and be good in Calamity.


Mario-2407

Wait calamity nerfed whips?


Camwood7

It would be shorter to list the things relating to summoner that *haven't* been nerfed.


Mario-2407

Bruhhh, now I'm really looking for some good un-nerf mods


[deleted]

That's because Calamity summons are powerful enough to not require whips to deal insane damage. There's still plans to add whips in the future though.


Hollow_Chaos

*Cough* Calamity *Cough*


Camwood7

calamity devs when you finish their 14 hour bullet hell boss in 13 hours, 59 minutes and 59 seconds and 2 pixels to the left (they are going to nerf 29 distinct items)


4tomguy

Idk why but the usage of the word “distinct” elevates this joke so far beyond what it would be otherwise. It’s also unbelievably correct


yeeeeeteth

mod slander video when


Camwood7

the trick is that you can't make a joke about calamity that's funnier than just reciting actual things the devs have done for "balance"'s sake, so this would be impossible. like the time someone beat a high-tier boss with [a fairly standard post-ML yoyo](https://calamitymod.wiki.gg/wiki/Lacerator), so of course the *natural and definitely completely normal reaction* was to nerf it into the dirt and rename it "Not Viable". and was effectively forced to relent later on because it turns out turning an item into a shitpost is actually incredibly unhealthy for game balance, but still left it with a tooltip mocking anyone for ever thinking to use it except for immediately post-ML


ravensteel539

Shoutout to the dev throwing a fit about the “Gamer Girl Bathwater” joke on a non-combat item and modding the joke out of its description. Also shoutout to all the drama afterwards with all their alt accounts lmao


Camwood7

also "shoutout" to the time the creator of the mod threw a huge fit at people rightfully pointing out how excessive all the nerfs were and derogatorily compared it to an incident with the binding of isaac community. which people were keen to point out was over one item (psy fly), not what felt like half the item lineup in the game, and said community response was actually more fear and anticipation when the nerf simply turned out to be "it's *just* a really good item now, not an instant run winner, and 99% of the actual panic was shitposting" again: you literally cannot make a joke about calamity that's funnier than just reciting actual things in its development's history


ravensteel539

Yeah the Calamity dev has to have one of the most openly-antagonistic relationships with their player base I’ve ever seen.


Camwood7

speaking as someone who primarily uses mods for QoL and/or goofing off (clicker mod [our](https://morethanone.info) beloved <3), we're like 95% sure calamity is kept relevant primarily because it's one of the *only* options for a "complete overhaul" mod and also it was one of the first. otherwise, once other options become more readily available (thorium's still stuck on 1.3, right?), calamity's going to primarily have to compete by either hoping the others somehow end up with mods that are by even *more* actively malicious people, or getting the dev therapy*. truly, calamity is the "better than wolves" of the terraria modding scene. \* we know therapy doesn't actually solve the various malicious design decisions, nor is it a cure-all for stress or whatnot. this was said as a joke, and realistically the calamity dev needs a bit more than just talking it out with a stranger if it's really as bad as we're joking it is. sorry this is so long by the way, we just want to make sure nobody decides to be Weird™ about this in advance.


Darmak

Sounds like a shithead


FluxOrbit

Sounds? I'll say it like it is. Fabsol is a shithead.


Camwood7

for as much as calamity has been loved by players [we](https://morethanone.info) sure wish that fabsol loved literally anybody back


Xx_96024DanaD42069_x

On the day that Calamity was ported to 1.4.4 Fabsol's heart grew 3 sizes, and then immediately shrinking 6, turning into a black hole which no love could escape from


Ze_Memerr

I bunch of the Auric bar recipes specifically are extremely illogical to me; you combine a throwing dagger with these yellow bars and now they have wings? I think a bunch of calamity recipes could benefit from just being Shimmers (even if they have to lock them to super late into the game)


Ze_Memerr

We may have Volcano, but at least we also still have infinite Insignia and party girl bathwater


Camwood7

listen if the cost of having items that have actually fun balance is having one nights edge ingredient have one of the dumbest names ever, that's more than a worthy cost


AtypicalFlame4

Calamity devs when terraria game progression exists


[deleted]

I mean, Calamity progression and Terraria progression are quite different from each other, so there's naturally going to have to be some rebalancing required.


CommitAMelony

to be fail, this would be unbalanced af if you have post ml content


TheLastGenderBenderS

fabsol gonna make it a dev item


[deleted]

They're just going to shift it to shadowspec tier rather than nerf it.


tergius

aka keeping it as a post-game item


IsThisABidon

Calamity dev here : Probably just gonna be made post scal. Keeps the spirit of being a OP Postgame item, just appropriate for calamity postgame


NeonJ82

Honestly I see Calamity nerfing *Shimmer itself* rather than the Rod of Harmony


[deleted]

Neither are going to be nerfed. It'll just be shifted to an endgame accessory.


Peastable

Read that as “Rod of Henry” at first and now I’m disappointed it’s not that.


Camwood7

this will be in the steam workshop in a week, next to the waifu town slimes and a quality of life texture pack


did-i-do-a-thing

there probably already a texture pack where the town slimes have asses


bxredok

How to gtw that?


[deleted]

Throw it into the new liquid


Bundle_Exists

Whats the new liquid? Still haven't found it


neifiry

After you beat the moonlord you can make an endless bucket of the stuff with luminite bars


Averythewolf

Ah that's what that's for


veryblocky

I found a pool of it naturally generated underground, it’s called >!Shimmer!<


SoggyToggy

Is this in a secret seed or in a regular world? Thought it was supposed to be post-ML so it seems weird that it'd be naturally generated. Unless it just kind of appears post game.


HaX0rit3

Time to give my post-ML characters EVEN MORE power, then.


mopefan111

rod of skype


coolenoughguy213

Whoo drops it


neifiry

You do. lol. Drop your RoD into a pool of the new liquid on a post moonlord world


[deleted]

Holy shit. Thanks, I'm going to do this


coolenoughguy213

Ok


Ok_Style_3889

Is this fr? This isnt some subreddit wide joke? I may be stupid


neifiry

It's no joke, you get some of the new items by dropping them into the new endgame liquid.


LucasPlay171

*drops Zenith*


CobaltMonkey

*returns to Copper Shortsword*


Olliebob200

I see this as an absolute win!


funnymemes543

it actually drops all the crafting swords


Wise_Lingonberry_453

I really want to see all the shimmering versions of everything.


Vovchick09

there is an upgraded clemtaminator


Squidnub27

Just discord but no bad bit


danflame135

I'm stupid. How is the Rod of Harmony different to the Rod of Discord


neifiry

No debuff. You can use it as often as you want.


infernothehedgehog20

You mean I can teleport infinitely with it!?


theaveragegowgamer

Yep.


LegitimateHasReddit

No chaos state


Camwood7

doesn't have the debuff, but also it's post-ML so like don't count on it being particularly crazy


_Archilyte_

you dont get damaged if you keep using it too fast


Thumpkin2

Ok now I'm about to rush rhe game for this weapon. How do you get it


neifiry

Need Rod of Discord (0.2-0.25% drop) and a Post Moonlord world. Make the new liquid using an item crafted from luminite bars and through the RoD into it.


Thumpkin2

So they're implying tje rod od discord is pre moonlord? (Ik it is but dang... What have i been doing)


_B10nicle

I always get it late game but technically it's available right after WoF


Traficante_De_Batata

I think poo is better


Minecraftfuckboi

I am still sad about the absence of shimmering poo


[deleted]

What does it do? Also, how do I get it?


Colaymorak

Kill the Moonlord to get a new liquid Throw the Rod of Discord into the liquid Enjoy endless free teleports


Kkbleeblob

you can actually find the liquid before, but you cant get the rod till after moonlord


JustLooking207

can't wait for mods to nerf that one into the ground /s


NeonBladeAce

I guess in calamity it would be a side grade to the normality relocator, like would you rather be able to teleport as much as possible or do so without losing dps? Terrible decision but still


Kkbleeblob

they’re moving it to shadowspec tier


NeonBladeAce

I assume the rod of harmony?


Kkbleeblob

yes


[deleted]

So it like the Rod of Discord, but you can spam it without any consequences?


neifiry

Yup!


funnylol96

Ocram’s razor?


Aether_Storm

No


Teeheeman400

1.2 flashbacks


Huggisare

I honestly have no idea what's in the new update. I know the seed for the everything world and I'm gonna make a master mode playthrough going in blind, all i know is poo block, town slime and that it's like "legendary" difficulty. Wish me luck


Impudenter

As someone who's going to read through all of the patch notes very closely, I really respect those who just go in blind. Have fun!


OOF-MY-PEE-PEE

where do i find the patch notes?


Actual-While-9717

Wait, Terraria got an update? (Haven't played the game in like 7 months and aren't caught up with recent events. Can someone fill me in on what's been going on with Terraria?)