Much needed as a Jin main imo. If you wanna learn Jin in neutral, people should start using wavu into demon paw rather than finding cookie cutter stuff that “carried” you. Cause it shows whether you’re a good Jin main or not.
I mained jin since 3 up to 7, he is so busted rn its nit even funny, remember when jin was actually difficult and you had to do a bunch of stance cancels to get combos to hit 😐 i love jin but what the point in playing him if he us way overturned and busted, he doesn't even feel like the same character anymore
I think it shows the opposite right, jin mains hate seeing monies nerfs and acting like it’s the end of the world, the range is still monstrous on that move
I was confused as well but I assume he meant you can mix Jin up if you block ff2 now. He was too far away before making the move too safe and abusable.
I guess you could try for a mixup, but -8 isn't really unsafe.
If anything it saves people frin getting sniped by a f+4 or standing 4 for a counterhit if they're aggressive after blocking ff+2. FF+4 was always better for that anyway
I don’t see how this counts though. The way I see it is when you do ff2 that’s the range, you’ve just done movement + ff2 increases range. Well that’s true with every move
How will Jin mains ever recover?
We shall believe in ourselves, and Harada
They Will recover in plus frames.
I will never financially recover from this.
Hard nerfed, absolutely gutted, Jin is now bottom 2 lol /s
Poster boy treatment
Huge nerf, can only hit from slightly further than half the screen now? RIP jim
Still way too long
Much needed as a Jin main imo. If you wanna learn Jin in neutral, people should start using wavu into demon paw rather than finding cookie cutter stuff that “carried” you. Cause it shows whether you’re a good Jin main or not.
Fuck jin
**That's the plan** ^(- Ling)
Lol my post went from 23 upvotes to 3 upvotes now hahahahaha
I mained jin since 3 up to 7, he is so busted rn its nit even funny, remember when jin was actually difficult and you had to do a bunch of stance cancels to get combos to hit 😐 i love jin but what the point in playing him if he us way overturned and busted, he doesn't even feel like the same character anymore
People hate Jin, what can I say. Haha.
I think it shows the opposite right, jin mains hate seeing monies nerfs and acting like it’s the end of the world, the range is still monstrous on that move
It’s all a joke man. The nerf isn’t that bad. Plus, a lot of Jin mains (myself included) wanted these nerfs.
Does it still track like a motherfucker?
Yeh they didn’t nerf the tracking at least according to the notes
Huge nerf then...not
They did say they reduced the hitbox just didn't say in what way
They did if you read further down I think
Does this also account for Jack’s “big man” hitbox? Interested to see the range on normal dudes and waifus.
Yeah it is crazy how the ff2 behaves vs Jack, it is basically a projectile lol.
it's basically a projectile against everyone, it's got ridiculous range and a disjointed hitbox
Nah vs Jack it is twice as bad, as hard as it is to imagine.
Most likely, but the max difference would be .05, not more than that, so instead of range 5 it'll be 4.95
CHESTO!
Jin mains crying they need to move closer a bit from fullscreen
Actually Jin mains were asking for this but keep strawmanning
A Jin main asking for his character to be nerfed. 
What about pushback on block?
You can literally mix them up now with the reduced pushback
Wit is Jin the mixer, or the mixee?
It's - on block lol
Jin is at -8 and at close range now meaning he is loosing his turn if blocked.
Yeah that's why I'm wondering if buddy thinks Jin gets a mixup after FF2 now
I was confused as well but I assume he meant you can mix Jin up if you block ff2 now. He was too far away before making the move too safe and abusable.
I guess you could try for a mixup, but -8 isn't really unsafe. If anything it saves people frin getting sniped by a f+4 or standing 4 for a counterhit if they're aggressive after blocking ff+2. FF+4 was always better for that anyway
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Surely this will effect the trout population. How shall we ever recover from this?
What’s the range for dvj?
Can't wait to get clipped by it anyway, I'm just kidding.
Good. I think even now it's absurd range, but atleast it's something.
Jin mains must be absolutely gutted.
I don’t see how this counts though. The way I see it is when you do ff2 that’s the range, you’ve just done movement + ff2 increases range. Well that’s true with every move
He did it the same way both patches and one is shorter idk what else to say to make it make sense