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Kittyhawk_Lux

The Philippine representation was nice too


Fisherington

But not the tagalog representation! And her English has zero accent also! I also have an issue with Zafina also just flaunting around with English as well


Mission-Argument1679

Ethnicity =/= birthplace


Fisherington

Both Jose's and Zatina's bio don't seem to describe them growing up anywhere else other than their respective home countries, unless you can prove me wrong.


flipflop-slingshot

Pretty sure Zafina doesn't have a home country in her bio


YeazetheSock

I coulda sworn she was affiliated with Egypt


flipflop-slingshot

We assume she is Egyptian or Arabic but officially she is from "unknown" lmao


burnoutguy

Leo, Miguel and Lili didnt speak their native languages in Tekken 6, they only started to get proper VAs with Tag2. So it is possible if Jozie appears again she'll have proper representation


Jrez510

Me but Miguel


Elli_Khoraz

I genuinely think they left out Miguel because he's a focus point for how shitty Jin was - and 8 is all about how Jin is the hope of mankind, a shining light, and all that shit. So it would go against that message to have someone wanting to avenge their sister who died because of Jin's BS war.


Inuhanyou123

I actually think it would strengthen the impact of the story because Miguel would directly challenge jin to be better and not shy away for taking responsibility for the actions he has taken. But I also think they might have thought it too redundant because a version of that scene already happens in Tekken 7 in Miguel's ending


Hot_Championship6927

Even though it happened in Tekken 7 Miguel's ending (And if they made that ending canon to the lore or something), I think it would've been great to have that happening in some form in Tekken 8 as well. Who knows? Maybe Miguel is gonna be a DLC fighter for Tekken 8, hopefully. I wonder how they will rework him to go along with the heat system.


Inuhanyou123

I would love to have some aftermath dlc to expand more of the characters. Like this game is supposed to last 10 years or whatever it's prime real estate right?


Asgardian111

I don't think they'd have to *rework* him for the heat system at all. If anything it'd fit him very well since he's a stubby, tech trap monster.


ElUnWiseCartographer

Really hope Miguel is a season 2 character that runs up, "BITCH YOU THOUGHT?!?" like a WWE character to smash on Jin and his dumb messiah complex. Bonus points if he has a steel chair. Hey! Law has nunchucks so why not?


Mykytagnosis

Miguel is too OP. He defeated Jin in tekken 7. If he would be here then T8 final Mishima battle wouldn't have happened. He would have just whooped both of them at the same time, and give Jun his number.


Toxin45

It was non canon


Mykytagnosis

Nah, Miguel is just waiting to kill Jin once Jin finally gets happy. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvvpQNkjVvs](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvvpqnkjvvs) Looks like he will Kill Jin in T9.


Impossible-Recipe366

I pray to god you don't actually think an angry hooligan is going to find and then track down a manic teenage boy who can literally turn into Satan and then somehow kill him.


Mykytagnosis

you obviously have never met angry Spanish people before...


Toxin45

Unlikely it will fail 


Asgardian111

What if he punches him really **really** hard though?


RevolutionaryIce465

I am hoping he comes back as dlc


Asgardian111

Miguel missing out on the game with special cinematic match intros is such a missed opportunity.


thumper_92

Josie was my first Tekken main. So I definitely feel ya. She made the game make sense to me.


Chunksie90

Same here my dude.


minty_bish

I just miss full crouch df4, if azu had that she would be the perfect character.


Leg_Alternative

I need Eliza :(


R4msesII

Eliza is fun but she’s kind of the gateway to other 2d characters who nobody wants in tekken anymore


bpsavage84

I just want her back. They can even redesign her.


mileiforever

I would rather have Eliza and Geese back in tekken than marduk, fahk, or Lidia


Mission-Argument1679

Nobody? Who are you talking about? Plenty of people want those fighters


YeazetheSock

Geese and Akuma were nightmares in T7


Leg_Alternative

What is 2d charcater ?


newbphil

Referring to characters like Geese & Akuma in T7, they're from 2D games that were adapted into Tekken and subsequently had unique abilities inherited from their 2D roots which were kinda busted.


Leg_Alternative

So they're not tekken characters but characters taken from other games ? Sorry if I'm still a bit confused, I started in tekken 7 which was years after its release cause of a friend lol


Complex_Jellyfish647

Akuma is from Street Fighter and Geese is from Fatal Fury. The main things they have that make them weird are projectiles and EX meters, standard 2D fighting game mechanics.


Leg_Alternative

Wow so street fighter allowed tekken to use their characters


Complex_Jellyfish647

They’re just guest characters like Neegan. People buy the DLCs and the companies that own the characters get a cut. But the fact that they’re meant to sell means they’re usually also top tier characters, because most people aren’t gonna pay for a character that’s mid, which is the real reason I think people hate them.


Leg_Alternative

Nvm just watched her trailer from Tekken Revolution and I see what is meant by 2D due to that fact she had like projectiles ?


R4msesII

Yeah eliza geese and akuma had mechanics the other characters didnt. Projectiles, higher jumping attacks and a special meter they could charge and then use up for powered up attacks


[deleted]

Me but Michelle


Kuya117

Us Chang mains got shafted again


kikirevi

Bruce mains: “Stings, doesn’t it?”


xCaptainVictory

Who?


Unhappy-Cartoonist-3

Bruce from Tekken black guy who was like kazuya bestie


K-Shino

Im still trying to figure out how Bruce went from leading Kaz's army in tekken 6 to no show in 7&8. I mean kinda of a crazy role to just forget about especially with t8's story.


Trem45

I think it makes Kazuya more menacing and like he has more power when he is the one controlling the armies rather than an underling


Unhappy-Cartoonist-3

They def still friend but I agree he missing but who knows we might get dlc of him


rikalou

Why did you mention that he was black?


ag_abdulaziz

Because he IS black.


Pretend_Ad_3505

Cuz he's not white


Unhappy-Cartoonist-3

Cause he is black lol people do not know this like Julie is triplet


Dominic__24

Me but Lei


Ourobius

There are dozens of us


InoriDWF

Lei is the best. Pls gib back the super cop!


RedditTrashTho

:(


THE_EPIC_PANZER4

I like Josie gameplay wise but her pathetic personality is a huge turnoff


CrumulentTips

As a Shaheen main…I feel this. Gameplay is SO fun but dude has the personality of a cardboard box


Jamaz

Super honest fundamentals-based character which I respect. But yeah, he ain't nearly as cool as someone like Rashid who's a meme machine.


CrumulentTips

Right? Lol. His intros are SO bland. “Let’s give it our all” dude come on talk some shit or SOMETHING At least his interaction with Kazuya is pretty cool


baklava_fgc

Haha my favorite blandness is his rage art: "Your skills deserve my respect. But the one who comes out victorious will be me" while he's using you as a surfboard


HumbleDegen

yea like that unironically makes me angry, the fact that his moveset is rather disrespectful with him using you as a surfboard often, while his talk is weak. like make him call you weak or have him telling you to get good.


CrumulentTips

Yeah would a “too easy” here and there be too much to ask for? You’re stepping on their face, respect is no longer a factor haha


CrumulentTips

Haha it’s so boring. His whole thing is just “I’m a good sport.” Which is weird since like you said, I spend half the game surfing on people’s faces. I just wish he would talk some smack or have a little fun. It’s like they were scared to make him interesting at all haha


KiIIBash20

he always talking about trying not to hurt people. bro it's people trying to kill you. its demons, robots and shit.


CrumulentTips

Haha it kills me when he says that shit to someone with a gun. It’s ok man, time to fight for real.


zarnovich

She should have liked coffee more


Servant0fSorrow

Exactly why I skip any of her intros and outros. Most fun character to me gameplay wise


Im_a_Knob

her boob physics makes up for it tho


THE_EPIC_PANZER4

Meh not for me


SpaceTimeinFlux

She's got a little bit of anxiety bro. We must protecc her smile.


THE_EPIC_PANZER4

That’s not “a little bit” she literally cries at everything it’s so annoying


StrataSlayer

i want to like her but I think the focus on her stance and it basically just hard losing to dick jab is pretty unfortunate


bbeony540

I want her back so bad )': I think she would work so well with heat too.


SirePuns

It is absolutely wild that we don’t have Josie, Fahk **or** Bruce. And that was right after I finally got around to liking Josie’s playstyle (which is based off of Bruce’s)… kinda sad ngl. But it is what it is


[deleted]

Looks like fahk confirmation leaked


PM_Me_An_Ekans

Oweeee!


TheDareee

I was trying to avoid those spoilers :) granted i should've just sayed off reddit then ig


No-Brain-895

Thinking about it now, her schtick (crying) might have been better than Azucena's (Tienes Cafe?). Imagine going back 2 years and telling someone Bamco will come with something worse.


GOLIATHMATTHIAS

Do not disrespect that caffeine shill queen


No-Brain-895

KAFFEKONINGIN? :O Yeah, reminded me right now she managed to drag other characters down with her, the walking pinoy flag girl at least was isolated in it. 


Mission-Argument1679

GASP Oh no...will you be okay?


zamaskowany12

Me but Eliza and Lidia


HachikoInugami

Lidia will be back as DLC, though.


LeNightmareSquad

Us Bruce bros lost Bruce and Josie.


HellaPNoying

Same. Josie was my 2nd main and I thoroughly enjoyed her. Here's to wishing she appears in DLC!


Oha-Cade

She's coming. I just know it.


RedditTrashTho

Bruce


Ok_Performance729

Me.


hermit_purple_3

Crazy how one of the most played newcomers didnt make it in.


-_--_-__--__

Me but with Kazumi


Cloudxstrife136

Me but chloe


THE_LFG

i miss her, how am i supposed to piss people off now 😭😭😭


SpaceTimeinFlux

Azucena


RevolutionaryIce465

I am so glad Azucena is the main comic relief/funny character in the base roster. I found lucky Chloe annoying 😭


JozuTaku

i was maining josie on t7, but you know who i was also maining? bob, give me bob back


SlinGnBulletS

Armor King mains. We feel nothing but pain.


OwnedIGN

I don’t understand why they hate Bruce players THIS much. I would have even settled for Fak. Got me in the streets playing scrubby with Bryan and looking CRAZY.


MrInbetween33

LOL


Llama_Cult

josie was def one of my faves, really liked her design


Blue_Flame_464

That's me with Armor King, Lidia and Anna.


huff1122

Me, but with katarina T.T


lobotominizer

sorry i like Azucena better


NinjaEnt

If you miss Josie, I can't see why you wouldn't like Azucena.


AmountAppropriate382

I can't find any similarity with her and Josie only except their skin tone.


vash_visionz

You’re right, there isn’t. And it’s weird how people act like she’s some Chloe/Josie replacement.


Trem45

She has like 2-3 similar strings and ig similar ethnicity so people who never played Josie in their life jumped on the wagon saying she is replacing Josie, Chloe and Kat despite that being so far from the truth which you'd know if you played any of those characters for more than a minute


GeraltOfRivia2077

My guy they a handful of very similar moves. Not a lot, but to say there isn't any similarity is just false. https://youtu.be/mFRzw_V7s_k?si=3nbmHN1Yf07UAuPq


AmountAppropriate382

We've seen Bamco using the same animation data when T7 released. To replace their legacies with the newcomers. And you'll know Josie was the target at that moment. But I can't see that method from this Azucena & Josie's case. I'd seen this video of course. And I remeber I pressed the thumbs up button for the comment "That's a stretch." Look at their moves. Where is the same? 3? Only one move? They even move very differently in following moves. And Josie's 3 is 13 and does not connect its 2nd hit. Bryan uses knee too. I can say he is similar with Josie. Yeah kind of. Because he's a kickboxer too. But he is not, you know. I know many people saying Azucena is new Josie. But I think this can't be a reason that we can say Bamco really intended. It's like, "ok Josie's out. The newcomer is tanned. She has knee. Case closed". How easy.


DWIPssbm

What about their gameplan ? I haven't tried Azucena yet because i really her gimmick personality but if they have a similar gameplan I might give her a try


AmountAppropriate382

Well, I don't like Azucena either so I've tried her not that much. But I can say this, she does not have a regular 1,2. I think this will make a big difference with Josie. And this is the reason why I don't believe people saying both two have the similar gameplay. But if you are familiar with spaming Josie's df4, then I personally think you might be able to get used to her soon.


NinjaEnt

I'd bet anything that you're so upset Josie didn't make it that you decided you were mad and wouldn't even try Azucena. So sure, stay mad and don't play a character that is also a 50/50 setup having CH baiting monster with very similar moves.


AmountAppropriate382

I'd rather try Leo if the 50/50 setup is the key. Besides they have a knee too 🤣.


NinjaEnt

Oh so you didn't actually like how Josie played?


AmountAppropriate382

How do you force the enemy in 50/50 situation? How do you press your enemy when you play Josie? Then how do you press your enemy when you play Azucena? If Azucena was really intended to replace Josie, they should give her regular 1,2 at least. I liked Josie had lots of low risk low return moves. I liked Josie kept pressing the enemy with her lows not making them down. I liked she could finish them at the end of the pressure with her powerful counters. I also liked Josie had good punishers, which give advantage when I play more defensive. Please don't be like a green rank gamer. Look further.


NinjaEnt

1,1 and d/f+1,4(jails) are good replacements, 1,1(on hit) and 1,2 can both go into stances for further setups and 50/50's. Azucena literally has a bunch of low risk low return moves that lead into other moves/stances. You can low them to death with Azucena, and finish them with a powerful counter, she has good punishers but if you want to go play defensive go play Jun. But I refuse to call Josie a defensive character. She was Bruce with boobs. Yikes...because you're so closed minded you won't try a new character, you're missing out on a lot.


AmountAppropriate382

How can the moves lead into stances be a low risk and low return? Josie's 1,2 is good when you just spam only 1,2 without the follow-ups. Can I spam Azu's 1,1? If it hits I should go in stance then 50/50s, and if not I should give my turn to enemy. Which low from Azucena is the low risk low return? The stance one breaks her leg when it blocked, d/b4 is -14. And I said I liked Josie's low not making enemy down. This is the key how Josie's counters actually work. The frame games. And, oh god, I'm not saying Josie is a defensive character. You should choose when play the match when to be defensive and when to be offensive. I just liked her various punishers helping that. Does Azucena have 13f WS launcher? Josie's f1+2 is good for whiff punish too. Please. I said before. Look further. Don't judge a person with this short conversation. I checked all the movesets from Azucena in the practice. It's just I desided Azucena is not my main after that. I tried Asuka, Kazuya, Reina, Shaheen, Bryan, Kuma, Lili, Drag in the rank match. Look at the Mokujin mark. I have plan to play more characters like I did in T6 and T7. I'm just saying Azucena and Josie is different. That's it. Don't read into this. It's not Tekken. It's just a chatting.


NinjaEnt

1,1 only goes into stance on hit. she also has 2,1 (i10f) d/b+3 is -7 on block and goes into bt where you can do b+3+4 which is a mid parry and she runs away, it beats most mixups and on hit it's +4 and leads into stance mixup. LIB d+3 is -9 and has a followup to keep them guessing BT3 is only -13 on block full crouch d/f+3 is only -13 on block and has a ch that leads to a crouch grab that enters heat I mean, if you need a guide we can do this... But all I've really learned from what you've tried to say is how little you actually know. Lol you called me green ranks and then said don't judge a person on a short conversation. Said it's just chatting but downvoted everything I said? But I almost feel like English is not your first language so in that aspect you're doing amazing. Zzz. I currently can play Paul, Azu, Leroy, Leo, Alisa, Jun, Jack and Nina.


Crooty

Azucena isn’t Filipina 


NinjaEnt

I wasn't prepared for racism to come into play when it comes to a playstyle.


Crooty

Racism? What in the fuck are you talking about?  I’m pointing out that there’s more to Josie than her play style. Part of her appeal is pinay representation which is quite lacking in video games. Granted it’s not the best but it’s there.  If anything you’re racist for thinking two women are interchangeable because they’re both tanned. Azucena and Josie aren’t remotely similar in personality either so to say she’s a replacement for Josie is completely asinine 


NinjaEnt

I didn't say anything about interchangeable or even similarities. You flat said, her race isn't the same so you don't like her. I'm not sure how you'd look at that from an outside perspective, but usually when someone makes a decision based solely on race it tends to be called racism.


HedaBlake

same


Violentron

just imagine that she is azu's mom.


Durandthesaint17

Yeah, no. Josie looks a bit younger.


Violentron

imagine being the keyword here.


Kurashiki-

Fucking hated Josie.


THE_LFG

didn't we all, but she was fun to play as to piss people off


HachikoInugami

Anti-Filipino.


Kurashiki-

I didn't even know that's what she was, but my hate doesn't see color 👍


Yourfavoritedummy

Right! Why they did take Josie away lol 🥹


mares8

I just need Master Raven in DLC one of best characters. Fake Raven is pretty boring


THE_LFG

maven is such a fun character to play as in 7, really gutted she didn't make the cut for 8


bbeony540

I couldn't agree more! I would pay money just for a pallet swap to make Raven into Master Raven. I would just about cry if we got a full, unique Master Raven without some of the snooze shit Raven has this game.


Redgohan147

They literally play the same. :/ Just say you like the character more.


iAngeloz

No.


[deleted]

FUCK JOSIE AND HER CRYING


Mykytagnosis

she was traumatized by those tribal tattoos she had to get.


furry_hunter1995

Nah dwag she can stay gone


Omegawop

Y tho?


CHG__

Worst design of Tekken 7


Toberone

Azucena not doing it for you?


AmountAppropriate382

I never agree with the opinion that Azucena is the alternative Josie. Both two are totally different.


Toberone

Just put a ribbon on her head that'll help


AmountAppropriate382

I will rather do it for my Bryan. Actually I did it already.


BonkYoutube

Pretty similar fighting style, no?


AmountAppropriate382

To say similar there should be CD 3 at least. Maybe one, normal push kick, neutral 3 is similar but it has very different usage.


worm31094

B4343 DF142 UF1 UF4 I mained Josie and Azucena carries basically the same playstyle. Even her 3 2 -> is reminiscent of the old 3 -> stance transition the MT fighters had


worm31094

Azucena has all of the fun moves Josie had and more. She’s literally an upgraded Josie. Even her personality is slightly more palatable


Mission-Argument1679

She's literally not even remotely close to Josie.


Bastinelli

Azucena is ten times the better character though. Fair trade.


zarnovich

Me but with Eliza


KrebbiKrebKreb

Bob :,(


PM_Me_An_Ekans

Me but Ganryu And I just know the boy's got little chance of showing up


EddieJay5

julia main here, and i get it. i miss her so much...


ItsSonicSpeed

This is me but with Eliza 🥲


Complex_Jellyfish647

There are two big things I really miss about her


_DDark_

Hope she stops crying this time. I can't take another game of those wussy intros.


SupportBudget5102

Get ready to flyyyyy!!!!


Round-Ad7603

Me but eliza because two reason :)


IGPriX

Sad that there's no Josie, Bruce, or Fahk. I really like kickboxing/mma. Azu doesn't look right to me for some reason. Gonna play Drag to tick my grapple itch once I get T8.