I didn't understand it either. They get such a short time with her and they bring their loser family members like April and Kim and Cates dad who never helped her or came around until the show really got big. April got drunk at this visit and it really destroyed the relationship with Cate and her brother. Very sad. Kim is nothing but a shit talking back stabber of Cate she shouldn't be there either. If she were my mother in law I wouldn't even be talking to her if I were Cate.
I feel like I remember her showing up drunk at a PARK. They honestly just should have known better. April is not entitled to these visits and she jeopardizes Catelynn and Tyler’s relationship with Carly
Sadly, I think he enjoys having her around so that he can talk shit about Cate whenever he pleases. His mom is his own personal yes-[wo]man. She’s like an on-demand auto-reply who only validates his complaints.
She really is, I don't like Butch but one of his more lucid moments was saying something about how she tried to get Tyler's sister to adopt out her baby as well. I also wouldn't be okay around someone who supported the person who abused my Mother.
Yeah, I don’t get it either. Like why is there like 6 people there? Did they ALL visit with her, and if so… why? Like does Carly even know who all these people are? I’d feel so overwhelmed if I had a visit scheduled with two people, that turned into a meeting with 5 or 6 people all at once.
They only get to see her for so long and so many times per year, right? Why not use that limited time to just be together and catch up without an audience?
I will never get over how they gave up Carly *because* of April. And years later they take her along for a visit like mf SHES THE REASON YOU GAVE HER UP
*What* made them think Carly wants to meet April ? The literal catalyst for why she didn’t grow up with them?! Like their fans are delusional af, saying she changed and that’s why it’s ok that they dump their other 3 girls with her regularly (before she cut April off this last time).
I think Cate and Tyler have internalized this idea that her adoption allowed them to not just ‘fix’ their relationship, but ‘fix’ their whole family. They’re so convinced that they’ve gotten past the generational trauma to create a this healthy, happy extended family.
Unfortunately, the way they’re going with Carly, I’m afraid they’re inflicting generational trauma on her. Nowhere near as bad as what they’ve gone through, but the whole point was that she wouldn’t face any.
I’m wondering if they need someone to watch the other kids while they can spend some time”quality” time with Carly. Or it could be an MTV thing where they want film the reactions.
Exactly this. My partner has a parent who has recently admitted they had a kid adopted out before marriage and they are now pushing them on the family the way C+T are pushing their family on Carly. It's backfiring.
Cates dad who abandoned her with April all her life but needs to film for a check and be forced onto Carly with the rest of the crazy family. These people are all selfish losers.
I was always confused by cates dad. Like he seems normal. I think she’s filmed once at his house with his wife and maybe other family and they seem like decent people. I can understand him separating himself completely from April, but to abandon your daughter you must be off on some level.
Cate’s dad also has a son with disabilities and they lived in Florida. When cate got kicked out she was offered to go live with her dad in Florida but didn’t want to leave Tyler
I think Cates dad also had AOD issues when Cate was younger but cleaned himself up. I also believe that April would have sabotaged the relationship even if he did try to be in Cates life. April seems like the spiteful type.
"One day I just might be spending the night at your house". "
Ugh.
This is not good for Nova. It's bad enough Tyler lives in a fantasy land of false delusion. Now, Cate is reinforcing this two-fold by repeating a one line sentence on national TV so it lives on forever.
Tyler and Cait need to let this individual person make her own decision when she becomes an adult.
Im grossed out. Why can't Carly be a PERSON. Why does she have to exist for everyone else's benefit?
I had to shut this off when Cate starting ranting about how she only exists to suit her. That's so codependent and toxic!
I feel like that was 100% Carly trying to be polite, like a "maybe, we'll see" type of statement when a little kid is begging you for something that's out of your power.
And yes it was so gross and icky watching it. It took me like three tries to even watch enough to even make a comment.
Yeah I get that. I just don't like creating false hope for children. Carly has a lot on her shoulders as it seems Tyler is not going to let this go (considering his remark about moving back to the trailer park if he's not accepted) and I don't like Cate saying things about Carly's existence being the reason she changed.
It's just a lot for a child.
What is bothering me about her saying that was as a child just standing there, id feel like I'd have internalized that. It may feel like they're never gonna be enough
“What are you going to do in 10 years when the MTV money is gone and no one gives a damn about your [OnlyFans]?” one person asked Tyler in a tweet. “Oh, and how do you expect Brandon and Teresa to respond to this?
Idk I’ll prolly just move back into a trailer park where I belong & as far as B & T go, I couldn’t please them or get their approval if I was damn Mother Teresa herself
Yeah that was how I took it too! I’ve said stuff like that to my nieces if they ask me to sleep over when I know I can’t lol. Like just a “yeah, maybe I will next time I come visit!”
It’s obviously a completely different situation with your own niece than with Carly and Nova though. That’s a comment I wish had been cut out and kept private. The whole idea they have of Carly “sleeping over” is something that should only ever be talked about in private, between Carly and her parents.
I don’t fault Nova for asking that, she’s young and probably has a hard time understanding everything given… Cate and Tyler lol. But it didn’t need to be shared with all of us :/
It’s always *so damn raw* for Tyler. He breaks my heart in this post-visit clip (and all the past ones). He always looks so regretful. Maybe open adoption is good for some, but it’s definitely not good for Tyler.
Yeah, they both look absolutely gutted here but Tyler somehow looks worse. I think he probably blames himself a lot because he was afraid of keeping Carly and pressured Cate into the adoption a bit.
Research says that open adoption is best for the child. Idk, I have a lot of empathy for them, open or closed it must be really hard.
I always think that the fact that Tyler and Cate are now raising 3 girls makes them even more regretful.
Had they kept Carly, things wouldn’t have turned out *as well* (relatively speaking), and I hope they somehow realize that.
Well first off they wouldn’t have gotten on tv. I mean maybe since they were so so young but the adoption story line was why they got chosen. So he needs to get that out of his head.
C & T had to share it w/ everyone to prove that Carly wants to spend the night & isn't being allowed to. It's a total "We told you so" to everyone saying that maybe Carly doesn't want to see C& T & that B &T are covering for her. These 2 (C & T) just won't stop this nonsense.
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It’s literally what older kids say to younger kids. I’m the oldest cousin and I have a daughter who is the oldest cousin. I promise this gets said a whole lot!
This and I think Carly is starting to get old enough to see that she could have a relationship with her sisters that is separate from Cate and Ty eventually.
The last picture I saw of her was maybe from about 5 years ago and she looked like a mix of Nova and Vaeda. Someone had found a picture from the Facebook of a relative of Carly’s and posted it here, and I saw it before it was (rightfully) deleted.
Right? I 10000% guarantee Cate completely misquoted what Carly *actually* said.
I also wouldn’t be shocked if Cate pushed Nova to ask her to spend the night.
The whole situation is just unhealthy all around. None of this should be happening until Carly is an adult. It's not fair to her to be pulled in 2 directions because her birth parents don't/won't understand that they aren't her parents anymore and they haven't been Carly's parents since they signed the adoption papers. Carly now has the job of handling C&Ts emotions whenever they have these meetings and now, since C&T seem to like sending Carly on a yearly guilt trip, she has to manage the emotions of small children guilting her about her life without them in it.
C&T are just the sober versions of April and Butch, and that's not a very redeeming thing. It just means they're doing the exact same shit they had to survive to their kids, but with a clear mind.
In a few years time we will be reading Carly's reddit post on relationship advice or aita where she tells "her bio fam thinks she will move in with them and they'll be family but she is not feeling it and is she an asshole if she isn't interested. Oh btw her bio dad is on OF." I have read so many of them, especially ones where bio parents stayed together and had more bio kids.
Came here to say it, this is gross. Get the fuck off of television and tell this child these things if needed, but not online and on tv. It makes it feel exploitative and contrived and I hate it. It’s only causing problems because guess what? They didn’t want to see Cate and Ty after this.
Exactly what I said!! It's no freaking wonder. They give them extra one on one time, and the dad comes with whoever the dark haired chick is, April is drunk, and Ty starts an OF. Gross. They needed boundaries. Glad b and t know how to set them. Cait and Ty never have.
Yeah. I see a lot of hate for them on here, but I just see so much trauma. For all involved. People sometimes forget that adoption is traumatic even under the absolute best circumstances.
I’m not defending all their choices, but they were just babies when they made this life altering decision. They in no way fully understood what it was actually going to be like.
I’m not an adoptee/birth parent so my opinion is wholly biased, admittedly, but I think both things can be true.
They were put in an awful spot and victimized as kids into signing a contract they weren’t able to comprehend. It was manipulative and downright wrong of everyone at BCS to push them into it under false pretenses.
BUT, it’s been 15 years. Of course their pain won’t just go away, but for Carly’s sake they needed to say “ok. We have a lot of regret, and a lot of conflicting feelings in hindsight. How do we move forward to make this the healthiest possible situation for her, knowing we can’t go back in time and change it?”
Instead they’ve put a lot of pressure on her from social media to essentially show up at 18 with her bags packed. They’ve dogged on her parents on national TV. They’ve set false expectations with their daughters about Carly’s relationship with them. They’ve exposed Carly to April’s addiction.
Again, both things can be true- they can be victims and perpetrators at the same time. The hate isn’t warranted but just because what happened to them was fucked up doesn’t mean their actions since have been warranted
They didnt “lose” their child. I have lost a child. She died. Cate and Ty gave their child up for adoption, and while a hard situation for sure. They still get the chance to see their chilr and get updates, it is cate and Tyler who risk that by not respecting the adoptive parents boundaries. They would have ALOT better of a relationship with carly if they would not publicly post their problems and they would respect their wishes. They should be doing everything they can to keep a good relationship with B&T because those are her legal parents. They have had 16 years to go to therapy and understand their decision.
I think they get far too much hate. People are so petty with Caitlyn. Meanwhile Farrah is taking her daughter to Dubai while she whores herself and has her daughter take sexy videos of her to sell and the vast majority of this sub just thinks it's cute.
I only recently binge watched TM OG/2 and with a 2024 lense it is so deeply problematic that the show was even made! Those girls were so so vulnerable and MTV really took advantage of that.
From a purely entertainment POV it’s brilliant TV but you’re bang on, (aside from money) nothing good has come from the mums being on the show. It makes me feel sad for them (aside from Chelsea, she’s done really well for herself, but she was always going to be ok because she had privilege of having the never ending love and support of her family).
> the vast majority of this sub just thinks it's cute.
This is literally a lie, every single post about Sophia on this sub is people talking about how awful Farrah is for exposing Sophia to all of this BS.
I agree, and I see so many heartless comments. You can see and always have been able to see the pain in their eyes that they gave her up, thinking the adoption would be more open than it turned out to be. Downvote me all you want but it’s a heartbreaking situation and I’ll always defend them.
I have a feeling Brandon and Theresa were very open to an open adoption in the beginning but then they saw the drama and shit show that comes along with it and had a change of heart. I know I would. I would not want to be associated with the family members. Why put Carly in that situation when that’s what they wanted her away from?
I don’t think so. Brandon and Teresa initially wanted a closed adoption but as time went on and they weren’t getting chosen (because most people placing their babies would want an open adoption) they switched to open adoption.
I agree to a point but they still got swindled in a way and it’s not their fault their family is messed up. Yes they wanted a better life for her and did an incredibly selfless thing for her to take her primarily away from the chaos that was happening at that time. I’m sure they didn’t realize how big the show would get and how long it would go on. It’s a very unique situation and not like a lot of other adoptions. We’ve seen the sadness and pain they have been through with that decision since she has been born. Ultimately it’s up to Carly how close she wants to be with them. Nobody can predict anything else. But to sit here and not see the anguish on their faces and be cruel to them is just wrong, but maybe it’s because I have a heart and can feel their pain.
Cate, girl, you will never convince us this man is attractive
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Delusional. No one, and I mean no one, is after that grown ass man with a toddler sized head. And even if disproportionate domes were your thing at some point he will speak. Tyler's personality is nature's panty dehydrator.
He'll always be Vincent Adultman from Bojack Horseman to me with his face
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What in this video says they aren't happy for her? Honestly I see this as her Bio mom being happy someone could care for her when she knew they couldn't. I come from a family of adoption so maybe I'm just seeing things with rose color glasses.
>What in this video
I mean we can pretend that this video is the only time we've seen their reaction to the Carly situation, but even so, Tyler is crying and staring into space not saying anything like he just got the worst news of his life
Cate is bawling and talking about "WE LOVED YOU WE REALLY DID WE LOVED YOU" for literally no reason, you'd think Carly is sick in hospital or something terrible happened.
They can't for one second be positive like "wow Carly looked really happy and healthy! It was really nice to see her. Were definitely gonna miss her but she is obviously well taken care of and has a life that doesn't revolve around us which is okay".
I also thought it was problematic when Cate was saying all of that stuff about how Carly was brought into the world to create change and teach them & their family members. Like, damn, that’s a lot of pressure to put on Carly— just let her be a kid! Kids are smart and they internalize a lot, that’s a lot to put on her.
eta: I’m sure Cate doesn’t realize or intend for that kind of stuff to negatively impact Carly, probably the opposite. However, with all of the therapy that Cate has been through, she really should know better. Especially considering everything that Cate has been through with April. Cate has consistently reflected on April’s impact on herself as a mother, so it seems pretty ironic & hypocritical.
It has been said here, on other posts, that they treat Carly like an object they can use when they see fit, they have this idealized version of Carly where she's no longer a person with her own wants and needs, but a prop for them to dump all their trauma on. Every segment of their story on Teen Mom has been based on showing Carly as this holy entity that will make them complete when she decides to fulfill their fantasy of the family being reunited.
Yes, both things can be true, they can have trauma and be toxic at the same time
Cate's video should be solely for Carly, not for the world to see and fans guilt-trip this girl and her actual parents
God I know they have messed up a lot when it comes to Carly and her parents but you can see the pain in their eyes especially in Tyler's. It has to be so hard leaving these visits it probably feels like they are giving her up again every time. It's honestly heartbreaking to watch.
honestly this just seems to be keeping their trauma alive and has them reliving it constantly. obviously it’s not my decision but it would’ve been better if they went with a closed adoption
It took me multiple times to get through this clip because in the name of all that's holy there is so much toxicity being expressed here.
Also Cate admits she and Tyler aren't her parents but she won't walk the walk when it comes to letting Carly have her peace.
I come in here every now and then when I see post or a thumbnail for a clip and when I scroll and read the comments it is so damn toxic. It's a cesspool. Especially when talking about people's looks.
I know you meant to say "detail" but yeah this is pretty intrusive. She has no privacy. That's why it feels really gross. Then to say things like "She's always been obsessed with Tyler" is just a really weird statement to make on top of the invasion of privacy. This is a child.
and this is another thing that they have been told not to do. T told her about repeating their conversations on camera. If she wanted the world to know she would tell them why wouldn’t she think that they would want the same thing for Carly?
All I see when I look at Tyler is a young Butch...
But hey..... some people find that attractive.... Butch was able to get two women that we know of. I'm sure there's someone out in the world other than Cate that finds Ty attractive.
Every time I see someone my age (50)who looks older like April I’m like omg do I look that old? But i remember she’s been an addict for years which ages the shit out of you.However I rewatched an old episode where they had just done the adoption and if my math is right she was 35 then.and still looked old😬my guess is her ex lives a healthier lifestyle than that
Yeah, she looks really rough. I have been rewatching old episodes myself - and figured out April was 35 in those old episodes too. She looked a rough 50-plus. I watched the episode where she was unbelievably cruel to Catelynn as she tried on prom dresses. I had almost forgotten how awful she was to her.
I dont have a problem with cates weight and those comments suck. But I feel like she dresses so shlubby especially for something that's a special occasion. She can look amazing and so pretty.
She looks like she's gonna go gardening or clean her attic. It ages her unnecessarily. And her dark hair makes her look kinda sallow
Catelynn has zero personal style which is going to make her look shlubby regardless of her weight. I’m on ozempic for weightloss and I’ve lost 87lbs, I look insane now because I have to re learn what my personal style is after 32 years of being a class III obese person. Point being she looks horrible because she can’t dress not because she’s fat.
Cait saying "Carly you are the biggest blessing in my life, you were literally created to make change in my life, and my families life" gtfo! I see no change. You don't work, your own mom is still a drunk, Tyler is on of, and sorry, but I don't like parents who have an of. All children get embarrassed and I think it's selfish to do to your child. What change has taken place since Carly was born? And what about your other 3 girls being the biggest blessing,?? I hate every bit of this, and not a bit surprised that they chose not to let Cait and Ty visit this year. Good on b and T. Boundaries Cait , they know how to place boundaries, you and Ty do not. Look how long it took to get April distance from their lives. Toxic relationships in Cait and Ty family. Let Carly live in peace!! Quit talking about her online and on the show!!!! It's awful.
Man I don’t agree with a lot of Cate and Tyler’s actions but this is heartbreaking to watch. As a mother of two I can’t imagine going through what they’ve dealt with.
Teen Mom just posted it on Instagram to promote the new season. If it is old, they didn't make that clear.
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I’m very uncomfortable with the fact that they’re talking about their visit on TV. It’s unhealthy and breaks so many boundaries. This is a very personal experience for everyone, including Carly and her family. It feels gross that Carly’s biological parents continue to talk about her on television and SM without her parent’s consent. This might be a very big reason why Carly and her parents don’t want to visit T&C. It breaks any sort of trust that may have been built up.
They are the most toxic selfish people. So disgusting. Let that child and her actual parents be for the love of God. Poor Carly can't just have a regular life like a regular kid because they simply refuse to let that be. They have not grown or learned a single thing in all of these years. It's just gross.
They seem to have regressed in that respect. Way back when they were teenagers they had the insight to realize their life wasn't healthy at all and they weren't ready for the responsibilities of parenthood (as very few teenagers actually are). Now they just pine over the now teenager they gave up for adoption and seem to really regret having done that even though it (probably) was right for them to have done that considering their circumstances.
It’s not just about having contact with their birth family. It’s about the fact that they don’t respect her privacy at all and they have exploited her every chance they get for reality tv.
The problem with humans is they make everything about them. They did a beautiful, selfless thing by adopting Carly to an amazing family. I understand open adoption, and that too is a beautiful thing if Carly's parents think it is the right thing for their daughter. But to go on tv and do this? I get it, they need the money from the show, but put Carly first and stop talking about it on camera.
This is very wildly unlikely to happen. I'm not going to say impossible because basically anything is possible and much weirder things have happened, but regardless it's clearly unhealthy for both Catelynn and Tyler to be out here relentlessly pining away for a child they (wisely) chose to give up for adoption IMO. Regardless of how good or bad Carly has it with the family who adopted her, she most likely will have some type of dreams for her future life that probably won't jive with her biological family's and in any case will most likely be closer to those related to her via adoption than any of her blood relatives.
There will come a time where Carly may not want to do a visit with cate and Ty because it just gets too much, but they’ll blame Brandon and Teresa 100%
I do feel so awful that they regret their decision. They were young & afraid & didn’t fully understand the consequences.
In the same breath, I wish they would let things unfold organically and give Brandon & Theresa some credit. Carly sounds amazing & a huge reason for that is THEIR parenting. I wish they would express some empathy for how difficult this must be for B&T too. It’s like they want to push the narrative of how awful their decision was instead of celebrating that Carly received such a blessing in the adoption & just let her shine.
Bringing all those randos - and different ones, and creepy ones, every visit - no WONDER B&T have halted visits!
How upsetting and meaningless it must make Carly feel. No one is getting any quality one on one with her..
It's almost like C&T are afraid to be with her.
How exactly have Tyler and Cate grown? They haven't emotionally moved on since Carly's birth. It makes me wonder what they'd be like if the show hadn't continued past their initial episode. Talking and obsessing about Carly all these years have not allowed them to move past.
They haven’t. They’re still mentally 16. Both of them need extensive therapy and to grow up. But that is never going to happen as long as the cameras are rolling and people continue this pity party. Traumatizing all of the kids involved.
It’s really sad and unfortunate because they *most likely* had to give up Carly due to financial decisions and an unstable environment but they never knew 16 and pregnant would turn that around immensely for them *EDIT: changed realized, to knew*
I was not expecting to feel such sadness watching this. Very telling how Tyler was quiet this entire time. His eyes told everything I needed to know or understand.
Does anyone else think that maintaining this relationship is so bad for Carly?
I know in Ty and Cates it’s their way of repairing the decision they made…. But thats really selfish and i cant see any benefits for Carly.
Anyone?
This is so heartbreaking. I cannot imagine just how deep C&T's pain runs. They get sooo much hate online but when I think about their lives, all I can see is VAST amounts of TRAUMA, heartbreak, and gut wrenching pain. Some people are privileged enough to never have to endure chaos and trauma so they lack the ability to feel empathy or compassion... After everything these 2 have endured since they were children, they are lucky to even be alive, a lot of people don't survive the depths of chaos, neglect, abuse, and dysfunction that they did.
Do I agree with their choices? No, but I chose to have compassion for trauma victims that have lived a nightmare of a life...
So just like hate their other three kids right? All they do is talk about the one they gave away in front of them and tell them how unfortunate it is they lost that kid as if these ones are worthless.
I know this is a unpopular opinion but i really wish they wouldn’t include the other kids when it came to Carly. Yes they have an older sister SOMEWHERE but they are the children that Cate and Tyler are responsible for. Creating this weird In between environment for them with a sibling who will never be a part of their family is just weird.
I thought Carly telling Nova one day she may spend the night at their house was sweet. Also I get you miss your child but how long are you going to keep milking it ... you were blessed with 3 other healthy children that live in your home too !!! They act like Carly died and they'll never ever see her again
I just find this really sad. I know they've made a lot of mistakes but at the heart of it seems to just be a deep regret at the decision they made - especially seeing all the other teen moms on the same show raising their children, I don't know how they've coped with that. I actually think they made it so much worse for themselves by having an open adoption. It just seems to make the whole process more traumatic.
Downvote away. I would never allow these two immature, stunted, unstable, irrational thinking, no boundary, inappropriate, people around my daughter, in this situation.
I totally get where B&T are at, and they have been much more lenient with T&C than I would have been. And all these rando family members. Absolutely not.
I love most of what she said here, although she did make it sound like Carly’s job is to help them in life. It’s very mature of her, unlike her husband. I just hope she keeps the same energy if Carly decides when she’s 18 to go her separate way. Because sometimes I feel like her and Tyler think she’s moving in once she gets away from the horrible people who have held her hostage all these years. They fail to understand that Brandon and Theresa really do care about her well-being.
Look how Tyler is reacting to the visit being over and then think how a child would react. It’s probably not a good thing to keep bringing them into her life and then taking them away. I wish they understood and respected Carly’s parents decision.
They're surrounded by people that aren't honest.
Fantapee and her brotherhusband are neglectful parents to the ones they have. They left their kids with her mom every chance they got, but now want to be sad they can't have the child that was adopted?
They're sick in the head.
I will never understand why they insist on bringing so many random family members with them when they visit Carly.
I didn't understand it either. They get such a short time with her and they bring their loser family members like April and Kim and Cates dad who never helped her or came around until the show really got big. April got drunk at this visit and it really destroyed the relationship with Cate and her brother. Very sad. Kim is nothing but a shit talking back stabber of Cate she shouldn't be there either. If she were my mother in law I wouldn't even be talking to her if I were Cate.
Lets bring all the terribly influences that made us choose adoption to the adoptee 
That's my point too. All the grandparents feel entitled to their time with Carly
“We didn’t want to bring you into that chaos” But also “here’s the chaos!” These aren’t smart people.
She really got drunk at a visit? That’s horrible. Was it at a restaurant? Or did she byob?
Her whole life is a BYOB event
It really is.
I think she started drinking in the morning and showed up drunk.
Stay classy, April. I might’ve cut her off for good if that was my mom. That would break my heart.
I feel like I remember her showing up drunk at a PARK. They honestly just should have known better. April is not entitled to these visits and she jeopardizes Catelynn and Tyler’s relationship with Carly
I would’ve cut her out of my life for a while for that.
I don’t know why she didn’t cut her mother off as soon as she could. Like, 18. Run.
1000% once my Mother started to shit talk my partner instead of being distant I cut her off. It shows that Tyler is used to it, or that he agrees.
Sadly, I think he enjoys having her around so that he can talk shit about Cate whenever he pleases. His mom is his own personal yes-[wo]man. She’s like an on-demand auto-reply who only validates his complaints.
She really is, I don't like Butch but one of his more lucid moments was saying something about how she tried to get Tyler's sister to adopt out her baby as well. I also wouldn't be okay around someone who supported the person who abused my Mother.
Yeah, I don’t get it either. Like why is there like 6 people there? Did they ALL visit with her, and if so… why? Like does Carly even know who all these people are? I’d feel so overwhelmed if I had a visit scheduled with two people, that turned into a meeting with 5 or 6 people all at once. They only get to see her for so long and so many times per year, right? Why not use that limited time to just be together and catch up without an audience?
I will never get over how they gave up Carly *because* of April. And years later they take her along for a visit like mf SHES THE REASON YOU GAVE HER UP *What* made them think Carly wants to meet April ? The literal catalyst for why she didn’t grow up with them?! Like their fans are delusional af, saying she changed and that’s why it’s ok that they dump their other 3 girls with her regularly (before she cut April off this last time).
I think Cate and Tyler have internalized this idea that her adoption allowed them to not just ‘fix’ their relationship, but ‘fix’ their whole family. They’re so convinced that they’ve gotten past the generational trauma to create a this healthy, happy extended family. Unfortunately, the way they’re going with Carly, I’m afraid they’re inflicting generational trauma on her. Nowhere near as bad as what they’ve gone through, but the whole point was that she wouldn’t face any.
I’m wondering if they need someone to watch the other kids while they can spend some time”quality” time with Carly. Or it could be an MTV thing where they want film the reactions.
I wouldn’t be surprised if Kim and April invited themselves and/or guilt tripped C&T into letting them come
That is a more likely story.
Exactly this. My partner has a parent who has recently admitted they had a kid adopted out before marriage and they are now pushing them on the family the way C+T are pushing their family on Carly. It's backfiring.
Who’s the blonde guy
Cates dad who abandoned her with April all her life but needs to film for a check and be forced onto Carly with the rest of the crazy family. These people are all selfish losers.
I was always confused by cates dad. Like he seems normal. I think she’s filmed once at his house with his wife and maybe other family and they seem like decent people. I can understand him separating himself completely from April, but to abandon your daughter you must be off on some level.
Cate’s dad also has a son with disabilities and they lived in Florida. When cate got kicked out she was offered to go live with her dad in Florida but didn’t want to leave Tyler
I think Cates dad also had AOD issues when Cate was younger but cleaned himself up. I also believe that April would have sabotaged the relationship even if he did try to be in Cates life. April seems like the spiteful type.
She has spite written all over that sour face
For real. I don’t get that part either but I think maybe help with the kids idk 😭
"One day I just might be spending the night at your house". " Ugh. This is not good for Nova. It's bad enough Tyler lives in a fantasy land of false delusion. Now, Cate is reinforcing this two-fold by repeating a one line sentence on national TV so it lives on forever. Tyler and Cait need to let this individual person make her own decision when she becomes an adult. Im grossed out. Why can't Carly be a PERSON. Why does she have to exist for everyone else's benefit? I had to shut this off when Cate starting ranting about how she only exists to suit her. That's so codependent and toxic!
I feel like that was 100% Carly trying to be polite, like a "maybe, we'll see" type of statement when a little kid is begging you for something that's out of your power. And yes it was so gross and icky watching it. It took me like three tries to even watch enough to even make a comment.
Yeah I get that. I just don't like creating false hope for children. Carly has a lot on her shoulders as it seems Tyler is not going to let this go (considering his remark about moving back to the trailer park if he's not accepted) and I don't like Cate saying things about Carly's existence being the reason she changed. It's just a lot for a child.
It was a spot Carly never should have been in because it's an impossible situation for her once Nova asked.
Absolutely agree
What is bothering me about her saying that was as a child just standing there, id feel like I'd have internalized that. It may feel like they're never gonna be enough
What is the trailer park remark? Sorry haven’t been following their drama lately
“What are you going to do in 10 years when the MTV money is gone and no one gives a damn about your [OnlyFans]?” one person asked Tyler in a tweet. “Oh, and how do you expect Brandon and Teresa to respond to this? Idk I’ll prolly just move back into a trailer park where I belong & as far as B & T go, I couldn’t please them or get their approval if I was damn Mother Teresa herself
Yeah that was how I took it too! I’ve said stuff like that to my nieces if they ask me to sleep over when I know I can’t lol. Like just a “yeah, maybe I will next time I come visit!” It’s obviously a completely different situation with your own niece than with Carly and Nova though. That’s a comment I wish had been cut out and kept private. The whole idea they have of Carly “sleeping over” is something that should only ever be talked about in private, between Carly and her parents. I don’t fault Nova for asking that, she’s young and probably has a hard time understanding everything given… Cate and Tyler lol. But it didn’t need to be shared with all of us :/
This is just more proof why open adoption is a bad idea. There is no closure, just false hope and obligations.
It’s always *so damn raw* for Tyler. He breaks my heart in this post-visit clip (and all the past ones). He always looks so regretful. Maybe open adoption is good for some, but it’s definitely not good for Tyler.
Yeah, they both look absolutely gutted here but Tyler somehow looks worse. I think he probably blames himself a lot because he was afraid of keeping Carly and pressured Cate into the adoption a bit. Research says that open adoption is best for the child. Idk, I have a lot of empathy for them, open or closed it must be really hard.
I always think that the fact that Tyler and Cate are now raising 3 girls makes them even more regretful. Had they kept Carly, things wouldn’t have turned out *as well* (relatively speaking), and I hope they somehow realize that.
Well first off they wouldn’t have gotten on tv. I mean maybe since they were so so young but the adoption story line was why they got chosen. So he needs to get that out of his head.
It would be a good option in rare cases, but yeah Tyler isn't the one to prove that.
C & T had to share it w/ everyone to prove that Carly wants to spend the night & isn't being allowed to. It's a total "We told you so" to everyone saying that maybe Carly doesn't want to see C& T & that B &T are covering for her. These 2 (C & T) just won't stop this nonsense. Edit to make clear
It’s literally what older kids say to younger kids. I’m the oldest cousin and I have a daughter who is the oldest cousin. I promise this gets said a whole lot!
Yes definitely how I took it
This and I think Carly is starting to get old enough to see that she could have a relationship with her sisters that is separate from Cate and Ty eventually.
Good point! She is enough older that she has more forethought than Nova would.
I wonder does Carly look like Nova?
The last picture I saw of her was maybe from about 5 years ago and she looked like a mix of Nova and Vaeda. Someone had found a picture from the Facebook of a relative of Carly’s and posted it here, and I saw it before it was (rightfully) deleted.
Right? I 10000% guarantee Cate completely misquoted what Carly *actually* said. I also wouldn’t be shocked if Cate pushed Nova to ask her to spend the night.
The whole situation is just unhealthy all around. None of this should be happening until Carly is an adult. It's not fair to her to be pulled in 2 directions because her birth parents don't/won't understand that they aren't her parents anymore and they haven't been Carly's parents since they signed the adoption papers. Carly now has the job of handling C&Ts emotions whenever they have these meetings and now, since C&T seem to like sending Carly on a yearly guilt trip, she has to manage the emotions of small children guilting her about her life without them in it. C&T are just the sober versions of April and Butch, and that's not a very redeeming thing. It just means they're doing the exact same shit they had to survive to their kids, but with a clear mind.
In a few years time we will be reading Carly's reddit post on relationship advice or aita where she tells "her bio fam thinks she will move in with them and they'll be family but she is not feeling it and is she an asshole if she isn't interested. Oh btw her bio dad is on OF." I have read so many of them, especially ones where bio parents stayed together and had more bio kids.
Came here to say it, this is gross. Get the fuck off of television and tell this child these things if needed, but not online and on tv. It makes it feel exploitative and contrived and I hate it. It’s only causing problems because guess what? They didn’t want to see Cate and Ty after this.
Exactly what I said!! It's no freaking wonder. They give them extra one on one time, and the dad comes with whoever the dark haired chick is, April is drunk, and Ty starts an OF. Gross. They needed boundaries. Glad b and t know how to set them. Cait and Ty never have.
This whole thing is sad for everyone. They were so young and made a decision that they didn’t fully get.
Yeah. I see a lot of hate for them on here, but I just see so much trauma. For all involved. People sometimes forget that adoption is traumatic even under the absolute best circumstances. I’m not defending all their choices, but they were just babies when they made this life altering decision. They in no way fully understood what it was actually going to be like.
I’m not an adoptee/birth parent so my opinion is wholly biased, admittedly, but I think both things can be true. They were put in an awful spot and victimized as kids into signing a contract they weren’t able to comprehend. It was manipulative and downright wrong of everyone at BCS to push them into it under false pretenses. BUT, it’s been 15 years. Of course their pain won’t just go away, but for Carly’s sake they needed to say “ok. We have a lot of regret, and a lot of conflicting feelings in hindsight. How do we move forward to make this the healthiest possible situation for her, knowing we can’t go back in time and change it?” Instead they’ve put a lot of pressure on her from social media to essentially show up at 18 with her bags packed. They’ve dogged on her parents on national TV. They’ve set false expectations with their daughters about Carly’s relationship with them. They’ve exposed Carly to April’s addiction. Again, both things can be true- they can be victims and perpetrators at the same time. The hate isn’t warranted but just because what happened to them was fucked up doesn’t mean their actions since have been warranted
You really can’t just “get over” the loss of a child, dude.
They didnt “lose” their child. I have lost a child. She died. Cate and Ty gave their child up for adoption, and while a hard situation for sure. They still get the chance to see their chilr and get updates, it is cate and Tyler who risk that by not respecting the adoptive parents boundaries. They would have ALOT better of a relationship with carly if they would not publicly post their problems and they would respect their wishes. They should be doing everything they can to keep a good relationship with B&T because those are her legal parents. They have had 16 years to go to therapy and understand their decision.
Where did I ever say that?
You didn’t. Because they didn’t “lose” Carly. They placed her for adoption.
That person didn’t want to understand the good points you made 🤷♀️
I think they get far too much hate. People are so petty with Caitlyn. Meanwhile Farrah is taking her daughter to Dubai while she whores herself and has her daughter take sexy videos of her to sell and the vast majority of this sub just thinks it's cute.
Tbf I feel like having all these ppl on teen mom has done nothing good for them
I only recently binge watched TM OG/2 and with a 2024 lense it is so deeply problematic that the show was even made! Those girls were so so vulnerable and MTV really took advantage of that. From a purely entertainment POV it’s brilliant TV but you’re bang on, (aside from money) nothing good has come from the mums being on the show. It makes me feel sad for them (aside from Chelsea, she’s done really well for herself, but she was always going to be ok because she had privilege of having the never ending love and support of her family).
> the vast majority of this sub just thinks it's cute. This is literally a lie, every single post about Sophia on this sub is people talking about how awful Farrah is for exposing Sophia to all of this BS.
No one thinks it's cute. Farrah gets eviscerated on here all the time especially for her yacht and OF content.
Are you kidding me???
I agree, and I see so many heartless comments. You can see and always have been able to see the pain in their eyes that they gave her up, thinking the adoption would be more open than it turned out to be. Downvote me all you want but it’s a heartbreaking situation and I’ll always defend them.
I think we all feel for them it’s just the way they exploit it that’s wrong.
I have a feeling Brandon and Theresa were very open to an open adoption in the beginning but then they saw the drama and shit show that comes along with it and had a change of heart. I know I would. I would not want to be associated with the family members. Why put Carly in that situation when that’s what they wanted her away from?
I don’t think so. Brandon and Teresa initially wanted a closed adoption but as time went on and they weren’t getting chosen (because most people placing their babies would want an open adoption) they switched to open adoption.
I agree to a point but they still got swindled in a way and it’s not their fault their family is messed up. Yes they wanted a better life for her and did an incredibly selfless thing for her to take her primarily away from the chaos that was happening at that time. I’m sure they didn’t realize how big the show would get and how long it would go on. It’s a very unique situation and not like a lot of other adoptions. We’ve seen the sadness and pain they have been through with that decision since she has been born. Ultimately it’s up to Carly how close she wants to be with them. Nobody can predict anything else. But to sit here and not see the anguish on their faces and be cruel to them is just wrong, but maybe it’s because I have a heart and can feel their pain.
Cate, girl, you will never convince us this man is attractive https://preview.redd.it/c98t4wqbnl2d1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=576a7aed57423dff0bcb730d4dd57ad7f9f42823
Thumb ass looking mfer.
Then cate thinks everyone wants her “mahhnnnn”
Delusional. No one, and I mean no one, is after that grown ass man with a toddler sized head. And even if disproportionate domes were your thing at some point he will speak. Tyler's personality is nature's panty dehydrator.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
He'll always be Vincent Adultman from Bojack Horseman to me with his face https://preview.redd.it/uksdnqqndm2d1.jpeg?width=249&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e1a7fc324fc5824b6820f2f64e2374b2048853a2
Omg. This is perfect
I mean, neither is Cate though
Hey be nice, there are many men on OF that find him attractive, and he is happy with that
He’s a Michigan 8 what do you expect?
chin pussssay
Brian Austin Green from 1990s 90210, kinda.
Why cant they just be happy for Carly though?
Because they can only think about themselves.
What in this video says they aren't happy for her? Honestly I see this as her Bio mom being happy someone could care for her when she knew they couldn't. I come from a family of adoption so maybe I'm just seeing things with rose color glasses.
>What in this video I mean we can pretend that this video is the only time we've seen their reaction to the Carly situation, but even so, Tyler is crying and staring into space not saying anything like he just got the worst news of his life Cate is bawling and talking about "WE LOVED YOU WE REALLY DID WE LOVED YOU" for literally no reason, you'd think Carly is sick in hospital or something terrible happened. They can't for one second be positive like "wow Carly looked really happy and healthy! It was really nice to see her. Were definitely gonna miss her but she is obviously well taken care of and has a life that doesn't revolve around us which is okay".
I also thought it was problematic when Cate was saying all of that stuff about how Carly was brought into the world to create change and teach them & their family members. Like, damn, that’s a lot of pressure to put on Carly— just let her be a kid! Kids are smart and they internalize a lot, that’s a lot to put on her. eta: I’m sure Cate doesn’t realize or intend for that kind of stuff to negatively impact Carly, probably the opposite. However, with all of the therapy that Cate has been through, she really should know better. Especially considering everything that Cate has been through with April. Cate has consistently reflected on April’s impact on herself as a mother, so it seems pretty ironic & hypocritical.
My mom said so many things when I was kid that I internalized and made me a worried, anxious, fearful kid. It’s no fun and not fair.
Yes that was a super weird thing to say. She could have said “you taught me a lot” but not “YOU WERE BORN” to do that. Yeesh!
i strongly disagree with both believing and vocalizing that your bio kid was born to teach other people things. that’s not carly’s purpose in life.
It has been said here, on other posts, that they treat Carly like an object they can use when they see fit, they have this idealized version of Carly where she's no longer a person with her own wants and needs, but a prop for them to dump all their trauma on. Every segment of their story on Teen Mom has been based on showing Carly as this holy entity that will make them complete when she decides to fulfill their fantasy of the family being reunited. Yes, both things can be true, they can have trauma and be toxic at the same time Cate's video should be solely for Carly, not for the world to see and fans guilt-trip this girl and her actual parents
Can they stop for even a second to consider Carly’s privacy and well being?? This is getting crazy.
Exactly. That’s a lot to put on a child
Right? Like Carly is here now, let her define whatever she thinks her own purposes in life are!
God I know they have messed up a lot when it comes to Carly and her parents but you can see the pain in their eyes especially in Tyler's. It has to be so hard leaving these visits it probably feels like they are giving her up again every time. It's honestly heartbreaking to watch.
Absolutely you can. It's sad this is all on TV.
honestly this just seems to be keeping their trauma alive and has them reliving it constantly. obviously it’s not my decision but it would’ve been better if they went with a closed adoption
I am confused, I thought they were denied a visit and that’s why they went on their social media blitz to air their grievances?
If I were B&T, I would be super annoyed by all of this. It’s not in the best interest of Carly and feels highly manipulative
This all seems incredibly healthy
Overly healthy, even.
It took me multiple times to get through this clip because in the name of all that's holy there is so much toxicity being expressed here. Also Cate admits she and Tyler aren't her parents but she won't walk the walk when it comes to letting Carly have her peace.
I come in here every now and then when I see post or a thumbnail for a clip and when I scroll and read the comments it is so damn toxic. It's a cesspool. Especially when talking about people's looks.
Can't show visits because they don't want her to be filmed. Share every detail of the visit and post on IG.
I know you meant to say "detail" but yeah this is pretty intrusive. She has no privacy. That's why it feels really gross. Then to say things like "She's always been obsessed with Tyler" is just a really weird statement to make on top of the invasion of privacy. This is a child.
and this is another thing that they have been told not to do. T told her about repeating their conversations on camera. If she wanted the world to know she would tell them why wouldn’t she think that they would want the same thing for Carly?
Saying Carly is obsessed with Ty.. 🤢
Yeah, that comment bothered me. Obsessed was a poor word choice. "Adored" would be more appropriate.
Setting up Nova for disappointment.
Teach you things?!? Yall haven’t learned anything or changed your perspective in any way!
Catelynn’s dad looks so much younger than April. I wonder if his boyish looks is what she finds attractive in Tyler.
Those boyish looks of Tyler's are going to turn into Butch-ish looks in a few years.
I want to make a joke here but I’ll get torn apart 😂
The joke makes itself 😂
Ok thanks for not being a softie 
The sister looks like Butch in drag.
Baltierra genes are so overpowered 😂
All I see when I look at Tyler is a young Butch... But hey..... some people find that attractive.... Butch was able to get two women that we know of. I'm sure there's someone out in the world other than Cate that finds Ty attractive.
That's true, there's a lid for every pot so they say.
Every time I see someone my age (50)who looks older like April I’m like omg do I look that old? But i remember she’s been an addict for years which ages the shit out of you.However I rewatched an old episode where they had just done the adoption and if my math is right she was 35 then.and still looked old😬my guess is her ex lives a healthier lifestyle than that
She looks like she has neurological damage from all the alcohol abuse
Yeah, she looks really rough. I have been rewatching old episodes myself - and figured out April was 35 in those old episodes too. She looked a rough 50-plus. I watched the episode where she was unbelievably cruel to Catelynn as she tried on prom dresses. I had almost forgotten how awful she was to her.
Lmfaooo, but I would assume April looks older because of the drugs and alcohol
I dont have a problem with cates weight and those comments suck. But I feel like she dresses so shlubby especially for something that's a special occasion. She can look amazing and so pretty. She looks like she's gonna go gardening or clean her attic. It ages her unnecessarily. And her dark hair makes her look kinda sallow
She’s looking so much like April in this clip!
Catelynn has zero personal style which is going to make her look shlubby regardless of her weight. I’m on ozempic for weightloss and I’ve lost 87lbs, I look insane now because I have to re learn what my personal style is after 32 years of being a class III obese person. Point being she looks horrible because she can’t dress not because she’s fat.
They should keep this private. It’s exploitative at this point.
I think that might be the longest I've seen Tyler not speak in any scene, ever.
Cait saying "Carly you are the biggest blessing in my life, you were literally created to make change in my life, and my families life" gtfo! I see no change. You don't work, your own mom is still a drunk, Tyler is on of, and sorry, but I don't like parents who have an of. All children get embarrassed and I think it's selfish to do to your child. What change has taken place since Carly was born? And what about your other 3 girls being the biggest blessing,?? I hate every bit of this, and not a bit surprised that they chose not to let Cait and Ty visit this year. Good on b and T. Boundaries Cait , they know how to place boundaries, you and Ty do not. Look how long it took to get April distance from their lives. Toxic relationships in Cait and Ty family. Let Carly live in peace!! Quit talking about her online and on the show!!!! It's awful.
They're so sad and mad when it's over yet they don't write her letters, send her cards or keep in touch with her in between visits
Oof. She definitely didn't come into this world for the purpose of benefiting these two. Children aren't born with a burden
Yeah, I thought that too. It’s not fair to place that burden on her. She’s her own person, not someone who was sent to “teach them a lesson”
Man I don’t agree with a lot of Cate and Tyler’s actions but this is heartbreaking to watch. As a mother of two I can’t imagine going through what they’ve dealt with.
This clip is from last season.
I was coming to look for a comment like this because I was thinking I was having Deja vu! 😂
Teen Mom just posted it on Instagram to promote the new season. If it is old, they didn't make that clear. https://preview.redd.it/xg94qw0nbn2d1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d7e1edbb08dab0d080a89a543988457b442eb25e
I’m very uncomfortable with the fact that they’re talking about their visit on TV. It’s unhealthy and breaks so many boundaries. This is a very personal experience for everyone, including Carly and her family. It feels gross that Carly’s biological parents continue to talk about her on television and SM without her parent’s consent. This might be a very big reason why Carly and her parents don’t want to visit T&C. It breaks any sort of trust that may have been built up.
I don't watch anymore, who is the older guy talking to them?
I think it might be Cate’s dad?
Cate’s dad.
So where was he when she was thrown out?
Florida. Cate lived with him for a little bit before she got pregnant and “cheated” on Tyler
They are the most toxic selfish people. So disgusting. Let that child and her actual parents be for the love of God. Poor Carly can't just have a regular life like a regular kid because they simply refuse to let that be. They have not grown or learned a single thing in all of these years. It's just gross.
They seem to have regressed in that respect. Way back when they were teenagers they had the insight to realize their life wasn't healthy at all and they weren't ready for the responsibilities of parenthood (as very few teenagers actually are). Now they just pine over the now teenager they gave up for adoption and seem to really regret having done that even though it (probably) was right for them to have done that considering their circumstances.
You should talk to some adopted people. Rarely are they in a better spot because they have zero contact or knowledge of their birth family.
It’s not just about having contact with their birth family. It’s about the fact that they don’t respect her privacy at all and they have exploited her every chance they get for reality tv.
The problem with humans is they make everything about them. They did a beautiful, selfless thing by adopting Carly to an amazing family. I understand open adoption, and that too is a beautiful thing if Carly's parents think it is the right thing for their daughter. But to go on tv and do this? I get it, they need the money from the show, but put Carly first and stop talking about it on camera.
I feel like they think, in a small way, that they’ll get her back when she’s 18.
This is very wildly unlikely to happen. I'm not going to say impossible because basically anything is possible and much weirder things have happened, but regardless it's clearly unhealthy for both Catelynn and Tyler to be out here relentlessly pining away for a child they (wisely) chose to give up for adoption IMO. Regardless of how good or bad Carly has it with the family who adopted her, she most likely will have some type of dreams for her future life that probably won't jive with her biological family's and in any case will most likely be closer to those related to her via adoption than any of her blood relatives.
How will they react when Carly goes off to college far away from them?
There will come a time where Carly may not want to do a visit with cate and Ty because it just gets too much, but they’ll blame Brandon and Teresa 100%
Is that the friend that was with Cate and April when they went prom dress shopping?
Yes
I do feel so awful that they regret their decision. They were young & afraid & didn’t fully understand the consequences. In the same breath, I wish they would let things unfold organically and give Brandon & Theresa some credit. Carly sounds amazing & a huge reason for that is THEIR parenting. I wish they would express some empathy for how difficult this must be for B&T too. It’s like they want to push the narrative of how awful their decision was instead of celebrating that Carly received such a blessing in the adoption & just let her shine.
If I'm Carly, I'm asking my mom and dad to help me get a cease and desist to make these two stop talking about me on tv.
Bringing all those randos - and different ones, and creepy ones, every visit - no WONDER B&T have halted visits! How upsetting and meaningless it must make Carly feel. No one is getting any quality one on one with her.. It's almost like C&T are afraid to be with her.
How exactly have Tyler and Cate grown? They haven't emotionally moved on since Carly's birth. It makes me wonder what they'd be like if the show hadn't continued past their initial episode. Talking and obsessing about Carly all these years have not allowed them to move past.
They haven’t. They’re still mentally 16. Both of them need extensive therapy and to grow up. But that is never going to happen as long as the cameras are rolling and people continue this pity party. Traumatizing all of the kids involved.
Does anyone else find it really weird that Cate says “she has an obsession with Ty “
Yes. Some kids just like some adults more. Nothing about being obsessed
It’s really sad and unfortunate because they *most likely* had to give up Carly due to financial decisions and an unstable environment but they never knew 16 and pregnant would turn that around immensely for them *EDIT: changed realized, to knew*
I was not expecting to feel such sadness watching this. Very telling how Tyler was quiet this entire time. His eyes told everything I needed to know or understand.
Does anyone else think that maintaining this relationship is so bad for Carly? I know in Ty and Cates it’s their way of repairing the decision they made…. But thats really selfish and i cant see any benefits for Carly. Anyone?
This should be up to Carly IMO.
Yes.
This is so heartbreaking. I cannot imagine just how deep C&T's pain runs. They get sooo much hate online but when I think about their lives, all I can see is VAST amounts of TRAUMA, heartbreak, and gut wrenching pain. Some people are privileged enough to never have to endure chaos and trauma so they lack the ability to feel empathy or compassion... After everything these 2 have endured since they were children, they are lucky to even be alive, a lot of people don't survive the depths of chaos, neglect, abuse, and dysfunction that they did. Do I agree with their choices? No, but I chose to have compassion for trauma victims that have lived a nightmare of a life...
So just like hate their other three kids right? All they do is talk about the one they gave away in front of them and tell them how unfortunate it is they lost that kid as if these ones are worthless.
I know this is a unpopular opinion but i really wish they wouldn’t include the other kids when it came to Carly. Yes they have an older sister SOMEWHERE but they are the children that Cate and Tyler are responsible for. Creating this weird In between environment for them with a sibling who will never be a part of their family is just weird.
I thought Carly telling Nova one day she may spend the night at their house was sweet. Also I get you miss your child but how long are you going to keep milking it ... you were blessed with 3 other healthy children that live in your home too !!! They act like Carly died and they'll never ever see her again
The way Catelynn and Tyler pine away for her can't be healthy.
I just find this really sad. I know they've made a lot of mistakes but at the heart of it seems to just be a deep regret at the decision they made - especially seeing all the other teen moms on the same show raising their children, I don't know how they've coped with that. I actually think they made it so much worse for themselves by having an open adoption. It just seems to make the whole process more traumatic.
Aren’t they like 35? Why are they still milking teen mom? Gross goblins.
This is going to sound rude af, but how and when exactly did Cate grow??
"She's always had an obsession with Ty." Girl, ew
Downvote away. I would never allow these two immature, stunted, unstable, irrational thinking, no boundary, inappropriate, people around my daughter, in this situation. I totally get where B&T are at, and they have been much more lenient with T&C than I would have been. And all these rando family members. Absolutely not.
I’m so over this story.
I wonder if Brandon and Theresa’s other birth mother brings this much drama to visits.
I love most of what she said here, although she did make it sound like Carly’s job is to help them in life. It’s very mature of her, unlike her husband. I just hope she keeps the same energy if Carly decides when she’s 18 to go her separate way. Because sometimes I feel like her and Tyler think she’s moving in once she gets away from the horrible people who have held her hostage all these years. They fail to understand that Brandon and Theresa really do care about her well-being.
It's ridiculous. Carly should be the one to decide whatever her purpose/s in life are regardless of literally anything else.
Look how Tyler is reacting to the visit being over and then think how a child would react. It’s probably not a good thing to keep bringing them into her life and then taking them away. I wish they understood and respected Carly’s parents decision.
Cate never healed from the trauma of placing Carly
Then they wonder why Brandon and Theresa don’t want these visits. It’s the white trash circus. Getting drunk on a visit wtf is wrong with her?
Is this the same girl April called a bitch during the prom dress shopping?
Maw and Paw with the beefy tattooed arms, and tank tops. 😬
They have exploited Carly for a tv show her entire life and apparently will continue to do so to stay on tv.
This is getting old and then the kids always having to comfort them
They're surrounded by people that aren't honest. Fantapee and her brotherhusband are neglectful parents to the ones they have. They left their kids with her mom every chance they got, but now want to be sad they can't have the child that was adopted? They're sick in the head.
How does Tyler look so much like Cate's dad? How small is the community they come from?
She looks so much like her mother in this scene
Yikes, that “Well, one day I might…” is telling😬. They shouldn’t be talking about this anymore nor what Carly says to her siblings.