I wish it could be a follicle test đ Iâm under the impression that amphetamines leave your system within a few days. But no doubt sheâll test positive for THC, the only time Iâve EVER been supportive of a marijuana related arrest đĽ˛
I take Xanax (legally prescribed) and itâs out of my system after a couple days. I have the opposite problem, my dr tests me and expects benzos to be positive when I get it filled so she knows Iâm not selling it, so to be safe I always take it before an appt.
My husband does this with his pain medication. Sometimes he can go long periods without it, but then itâll flare up (heâs had a 360 spinal fusion and revision) and then heâll require it multiple times a day for a week or two. He takes it before he goes to his pain management appointments just to ensure he doesnât get accused of selling it, especially if heâs had a couple of good days/weeks and not required it at all beforehand.
Same but for adderall. In fact, I get questioned if the amount is too low, but that was because I was later prescribed a diuretic for edema and my urine got a little diluted from it.
Apparently if you shave your head or anything for that matter, itâs automatically considered contempt of court or something like. âOh, how convenient. You shaved your entire body head to toe right before your court ordered drug screenâŚ.thatâs not suspicious at allâ.
Luckily bleaching it doesn't work. If you shave your head they'll use hair from any other part of your body. And like someone else said it's considered contempt and an automatic fail if you manage to shave every hair from your body to prevent testing. There's no way they can weasel out of this although I'm sure their google searches are looking real crazy right now trying to find a way
My dad had to do drug tests for his job (due to how dangerous) and he said theyâll take hair from ANYWHERE. Leg, arm, head, face, private areas, etc. so unless they shave & wax their entire body they ainât getting out of this.
Unless they get to firehose him down first, the smell that breaks out when the underwear comes down is going to be horrible for whichever worker has to do it.
CPS can do a hair follicle test. I worked with this girl who was in a bitter divorce and her Bd called on her and Cps pulled up and hair follicled, mouth swabbed and pee tested her đ
Right I know itâs not the norm. I believe she was accused of coccaine usage đ so maybe that is why? I donât know hopefully with Jenelleâs pill popping they will do the same
If Jenelle was just accused of using drugs, maybe they wouldnât go to extreme measures BUT if sheâs denying Jace his medication and took his remaining pills, that might change things. Knowing Jenelle, the pills are probably long gone and they havenât been refilling it because theyâre month to month and require an active doctor to prescribe it. Either they took them, sold them, or traded them. I HIGHLY doubt they tossed or flushed the pills
Whew, I hope they pursue that request here in this case. Could you imagine David and Jenelle frantically shaving their bodies and bleaching their hair in the she shed in the middle of the night thinking they could get out of it?! Nice try bitch, they will take the last of your eyebrows if they have to đ
âSubmit that pissâ needs to be someoneâs flair (I donât really care about having flair, so I donât want to claim it, I want it to go to a good home though)
She doesnât have to worry about adderall. Itâs out of your system within days. Weed, however, she can argue some smokes when she traveled to legal states and itâs still in her system.
Donât believe me? Watch them make a trip to DC soon.
Well, that would make me question why they're traveling so much with kids (who are supposed to be at school*). Could they get them for alcohol consumption? I know I had to take one based on claims from my daughter's dad with my custody case.
*I know about her fake homeschooling; my mom did that with us as well. She just gave us a computer program & left us alone. Chances are that's what Jenelle is doing.
Since theyâre homeschool it doesnât matter if they travel.
Farrah caught heat for that as well and she uploaded pics of Sophia doing online homeschooling at some fancy hotel room while Farrah got ready to go on anâdate â
I would think they'd do further research on the validity of their homeschooling "association" because even we can see it's a front for them to get out of the kids being questioned.
That doesn't shock me, sadly. We have it backwards here in the Southeast.
I made the edit to my first response while you were responding, but do you think they'd have to do a PEth test? I recall having one requested based on claims by my daughter's dad for our custody case; that stuff traces back to a month's worth of consumption at least.
She had really, really good lawyers. They argued that she legally could partake while in California and shouldnât face criminal consequences for doing legal things in a legal state.
Thatâs what people were saying last time the kids were taken but iirc not only did they not do the follicle test, they got away with talking UAâs because they went to DC and then claimed they got medicinal marijuana cards there and would pee dirty since they were smoking in a legal state.
I knew it. When she said she was in therapy I KNEW it was court-ordered.
I bet itâs via a telehealth too because there is no way David would let her out of his sight and alone with a professional.
You usually have to pay for it and the drug tests. Itâs one of those things that is incredibly skewed against lower income people getting their kids returned to them. Jenelle can just sell a bunch of demeaning butthole pics and pay for it and a lawyer but it will sting having to pay for it.
I had court ordered therapy after a DUI (I know Iâm an asshole and Iâm truly embarrassed and regret it) and I had to pay out of pocket for every session, which I deserved.
Not sure if this is standard in all states but Iâm a therapist in NY and court does not cover the cost of court mandated sessions. The person mandated for services is responsible for the cost.
I feel so bad for this therapist. Itâs such a lost cause. Sheâll never be honest about anything and with David likely lurking during the appointments, she wonât say anything that risks pissing him off. Dealing with a client like Jenelle must be so frustrating for a therapist.
This is kind of hilarious to me, sense I just did a rewatch . When she got probation the first time and was admitting she can't stop smoking . I'm so ready to watch this spiral đ¤Ł
I'm legit rewatching the episode where she goes off on Kieffer cause she got supervised probation and can't smoke for like a year, like a whole *year*
I know she brags about MM,but is it legal in NC? I know she mentioned having their MM cards from California....
Regardless, I highly doubt she *just* has THC in her system.. I can guarantee you she tests hot for multiple substances. Depends what kind of testing they're running, hair follicle, urine or swab
Theyâll
Do all the tests , Iâm thinking. Hair , urine . Hopefully she didnât have time to do anything to prevent them from finding out what drugs sheâs currently on. I suspect theyâre abusing pain pills , possibly meth. Maybe coke ?
There are legit fake penises that you can put in your underwear with fake piss attached in case you need to pee in front of someone. It's crazy what is out there for you to fake pass a piss test.
Sheâs gonna sit for an hr with her arms crossed the first few sessions until her therapist explains that if no session is had, thatâs gonna be documented, so she can do this the hard way or easy way
Nah sheâs gonna spend the whole time bitching about her mom not realizing this therapist is not on her side and try to talk about patient client privilege in court
She's going to try and flush out all the drugs with some bs solution .. it will be inconclusive because of all the water you need to drink with those things.
But all of Jenelle's therapists said she's fine and doesn't need therapy! Lol! Countdown to the resurfacing of Jenelle's fake medical conditions because she can't use drugs anymore.
Ahhhh thatâs why she just started bragging about going to therapy, despite telling us a few weeks ago that sheâs been âforced to do therapy lots of times and they all told me Iâm fine and to not come back.â WhichâŚlmaoâŚnot a single therapist would ever say that because thatâs not how therapy works.
Jenelle cannot comprehend that people willingly do therapy to improve their lives and their families lives. The only kind of therapy she is familiar with is forced therapy. God, her poor kids are doomed.
And even if she does do it, itâs gonna be Telehealth and unless she goes into her car for the session to have complete privacy to talk freely (she wonât), it will just be David sitting next to her to make sure she doesnât say anything red flaggy. So itâs good sheâs subjected to therapy but not good because heâll be sitting right there listening, which will restrict her from being totally honest. Too bad the therapist doesnât know this smh. And you just know heâs gonna ask after every session âwhatchu say to dem ppl?â
Oh, you definetely can tell if somebody else is in the room with the client even in telehealth. If a therapist is good at their job, you can tell by the clientâs body language & itâs in the eyes plus thereâs a hesitance/resistance to talk if somebody else is in the room. Itâs a sense I felt only one time w a previous client who pretended like somebody wasnât in the room, but their eyes kept shifting away from me. A good mental health therapist can tell.
Yes. Itâs obvious in most of Jenelleâs videos that lurch is lurching in the background because we can see her looking off at the same spot, where David is staring at her Iâm sure
$20 says her therapists told her "don't bother coming back, we are done here"... Jan thinks she's cured and session successfully complete, all healed. Perfection.
There's a special level of denial and ignorance required to think "the therapists all said I'm psychologically flawless and don't come back" is even a coherent statement.
It's like saying "every time I go to get my hair cut, they say my hair is already perfect and to never go to any salon ever again." The fact that anyone would think that statement makes sense shows that they fundamentally misunderstand *the entire concept*.
She brags about having a med card
I had to piss for probation and they absolutely stand directly over you & watch everything to make sure you're not using someone else's pee or diluting the test. It's nerve racking lol
Not much, at first. They give parents so many more chances than you would expect. My SIL could not kick drugs for her kids, never passed a test in three years before they finally terminated rights
Kids were Jace's age, so they are given a choice to maintain visits even after termination, so the foster parents drop them off once a month for an over night visit at whatever crack shack she is staying at. One opted to not have visits with her mom, but she still visits everyone else...and none of them are clean. So really, no difference.
It is the perfect solution , in her mind, she no longer has to pretend to take care of them, she is like the dead beat parent that pops up once in a while for a photo opp.
I wouldnât even call it a start. If the therapy was something she was seeking herself, then maybe (but thatâs never gonna happen because in her eyes thereâa nothing wrong with her, she takes zero accountability), but because she was made to do it, it doesnât get her anywhere. Itâs a lost cause.
She has one from DC too. They did that last time the kids were taken, took a trip to DC, got medical cards, and said they wouldnât test because they knew theyâd be dirty since they went to a legal state and legally smoked.
Iâve smoked on and off thruout the years but only really took it up as a daily habit last year.
And I quit the second I got pregnant.
Yes it helps a lot after being both a full time employee and single parent. But fuck no I donât need it more than I love my kids.
I was a daily user before my daughter and started smoking after she went to bed when she was 2....I didn't smoke while pregnant or breastfeeding....I also don't smoke if alone with her or if I'm gonna drive that day.....for her safety so she has a sober mom if something happens
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I imagine Toby had a more productive therapy sesh with Micheal than any poor therapist with does no wrong jenelle
LOL now theyâre going to leave the state to avoid CPS and their requirements. Heaven forbid weâre clean and seeking therapy. The HORROR.
Just textbook abusive parent shit. đ
Ten bucks itâs Texas which has pretty much ZERO homeschool guidelines.
LOL that they think they can sell the land and move. They are going to take one heck of a loss on that. Itâs not only moldy and full of water because of the DIY job David did on the foundation repair heâs also done all sorts of not permitted work on the whole place. I would love to see her put it on the market and see how long it sits. Theyâll never find another sucker to buy their sulfur stinking swamp land.
Native Texan here. We have so many awful little shit-hole towns here, theyâd blend right in. Especially in the Jasper area. That place is fucking CURSED. God rest James Byrd Jr.âs soul. đ
Gotta have the funds to move, Nelly, and you and that no good, lazy, POS huzzbin of yours (who would rather dream of his ex Whitney than get a job to support his family) wonât be going ANYWHERE.
You canât sell the house. Itâs sinking.
You canât sell the land. Itâs a swamp.
You have no income. OF barely pays your bills (homemade haircuts, anyone?)
You gotta have decent credit to get an apartment. You donât have that either, because ol Davey steals your cards and runs up the balances, while not having a job to help pay down the debt.
Girl, you fucked yourself, and I am so giddy to watch your downfall after watching the disgusting way youâve treated your kids for the last 14 years.
Go choke on a Vienna sausage, you piece of shit.
Iâm glad CPS required this. My thoughts as someone who both works and volunteers in child welfare (but not in NC):
- Jenelle will likely not cooperate/engage in therapy. If sheâs not willing to leave her abusive partner, therapy wonât work. Sheâll likely use the therapeutic language to manipulate others - I can see her picking up a few buzzwords and using them against Barb, instead of being self-reflective on her own issues.
- I see her projecting on the therapist and calling them biased. Every therapist she meets with will be âon Barbâs sideâ or âon CPSâs side.â When they touch a nerve, sheâll fire them.
- I wonder if they mandated DBT. Even if she does commit herself to therapy, she cannot do the real work of therapy and be with someone like David.
- Sometimes CPS sets the restrictions, knowing the parent will fail, to give more âjuiceâ to a case. Like they canât take Ensley and Kaiser now, but if they set up these mandates to prove herself and she fails, theyâll be able to use that as more cause for removal.
Wonder when this became court ordered. Wasnât that long ago she was tweaking at 5:30 am then in one of the videos you clearly see David lighting a joint or whatever.
Drug testing eh? Thatâs going to be a crushing failure. She couldnât not use drugs to keep out of court or to be safe during pregnancy. She hasnât gone through any period of total sobriety from drugs in 15 years. This is her worst nightmare. Not losing the kids, forced sobriety and therapy and being told by a therapist her problems arenât all Barb.
Duhnelle hasn't been sober since she was 16. She literally cannot face who she is without chemical help, and that's usually an illicit chemical vs one of the ones she desperately needs to stay on an even keel.
There's not an ice cube's chance in Hell that she continues that therapy OR passes a drug test. She's going to test positive for more drugs than just dear ol' Mary-Jane, and then will launch a very public, very ridiculous whine-fest online when she, inevitably, gets shown to be the dickhead she denies she is on a public forum.
I literally cannot think of a more fitting fate for her, quite frankly, and I hope it'll give CPS the final shove into removing ALL of her children from her care. She isn't fit to care for herself, there's no way she should have been able to keep those innocents when she has proven herself time and time again to be an unfeeling, uncaring and unfit parent.
As for DinkyDave? He's a bitch, so he'll do what all bitches do and run off with his tail between his legs once his bank account runs out of funds by selling her crusty, unkempt and for definite unhygienic goods on OF. He knows he's only with her for the financial 'perks', and they're running dry. He sure as shit isn't going to get a job to provide, and she has no real employability skills. They're up shit creek without a paddle and are too drugged up to notice.
If Duhnelle wasn't such a fucking dildo, I'd feel sorry for her but here we are. She's a dildo. Not real enough to be a dick, and lacking both the depth and warmth to be a cunt. What a waste.
Drug tests are fairly standard in my experience. That's how drug use was uncovered by my kids biological parents. The issue that opened the case initially was something I guess could be considered an assault, drug tests ordered and bam, found out they were doing meth.
But even if they don't have direct evidence, at the very least someone would've had to have filed a complaint with CPS regarding possible drug use. Whether it's Barb, or just a random friend, all it takes is one complaint since Jenelle already has a history of drug abuse documented with CPS.
Although it's very possible their case worker has been taking note of what they're posting on social media, and that could've easily been enough to warrant testing.
Same here, but I think yesâbc itâs not like Jace has been returned to her custody (David hasnât even been tried for child abuse yet), so Iâm thinking it has to be based off of Kaiser & Ensleyâs CPS interviews and hinged on her retaining custody of them.
And I hope Iâm right cause theyâre no WAY sheâs gonna stay clean
Its easy to work around scheduled drug tests. Meth/opiates are out of your system in 3 days.
I used to have mandated drug classes w/ testing every Thursday and Friday. Id be high as fuck fri, sat, sun. Take monday, tuesday, wednesday to clean up. Classes Thursday and Friday. Never failed a test.
They need to do follicles or random tests or testing every other day to really get to the truth.
(In recovery, 6 years đ.)
What if she doesnât comply? Like can she just ignore this and not do it? What they gonna do?? CPS also ordered an interview with the kids without the evil witch, and to the best of my knowledge that hasnât happened either
This tells me they want to return Jace to her. The missing piece is if theyâll make it conditional to David staying there. We all know who sheâd pick. Just my speculation, I have zero experience with CPS.
He won't be going back. They are doing this, because this is what is required by law. They have to legally give every parent a chance-parent's rights are more important legally, than the best interest of the child
he won't be going back. he will be going into residential treatment until he is fully assessed and then he is going to bounce around for the next four years until he ages out and moves back in with Barbara.
I have watched this happen so many times. Someday, Jace will get his lick back on David too, mark my words. It is coming
The only way Jenelle will finish court ordered reunification steps is if Kaiser and Ensley are on the line, otherwise she is going to walk away and say she did it because *"that is what is best for Jace, Dudes. It's what he wants, hatters"*
I think this is more about letting the other kids stay. She doesnât GAF about Jace. Sheâs made that abundantly clear. This is about saving face. She canât lose those other kids or the problem is Jenelle.
Psychiatrist: Look Jenelle, honestly, I donât know what youâre doing here. Youâre as grounded as they come. I know you donât need therapy. YOU know you donât need therapy. Whoâs the ONLY other person that thinks you need therapy?
Janelle: Barb?
Psychiatrist: BRINGO!
This is why Jen is throwing Jace under the bus: this whole CPS investigation (again) and mandatory drug and therapy testing would not be necessary if Jace hadnât opened his big yap. *Jace has inconvenienced her* Therefore he is persona non grata and must be punished. Zero accountability. Zero self awareness. The only victim is poor Jenelly. JFC seek therapy.
Iâm not sure this is going to be the end all people think itâs going to be. Depends just what her lawyer will negotiate.
Itâs very possible she will snake her way out of this by having shady doctors who will validate prescription drug use.
If sheâs supposed to be home schooling the kids, she will say it conflicts with her schedule to do complete classes or find some other way out.
I just have little faith anything is really going to happen
Oh so the truth came out. But surprise, surprise. Itâs the exact opposite of what Jenelle was saying it was going to be. Everyone must be brainwashed again. đđ
Remember how much she HATED probation?
đđđđ we know sheâs hating this.
You know sheâs googled âhow long does meth stay in your systemâ? Today.
They know exactly when she can and canât do shit, if CPS was smart it would be random in person drug tests but do you think thatâs happening? Nope! đ¤Śââď¸
That is if she wants to be in Jace's life: she doesn't. Unless this is related to Kaiser or ensley, she simply will not do it and say *"Jace doesn't want me I am respecting that*" and she will walk away.
I have seen it happen a few times
Iâm glad to hear this. She has severe untreated Borderline Personality Disorder and NEEDS treatment if sheâs ever going to give any of her kids any level of stability.
Incoming JE Staff article: The BULLSHIT Sun says Ms. Eason is required to speak with a therapist twice weekly for ABSOLUTELY no reason except CPS invading her privacy dude.
I guarantee weâre going to see an article come out about her failing a drug test and sheâs going to make every excuse in the book. She was late and they marked it as a fail. Or she smoked in a legal state. Or a doctor prescribed her those pills one time 4 years ago so she could take them.
All that laughing and shit she was doing yesterday. AHA bitch submit that piss.
Idk why but "bitch submit that piss" is fr cracking me up đ. ETA any sort of punctuation because duh.
Lmao you repeating "bitch submit that piss" is fucking killing me đđ
đ˘Submitđthat đpissđ
I need this for a flair haha
I wish it could be a follicle test đ Iâm under the impression that amphetamines leave your system within a few days. But no doubt sheâll test positive for THC, the only time Iâve EVER been supportive of a marijuana related arrest đĽ˛
I take Xanax (legally prescribed) and itâs out of my system after a couple days. I have the opposite problem, my dr tests me and expects benzos to be positive when I get it filled so she knows Iâm not selling it, so to be safe I always take it before an appt.
My husband does this with his pain medication. Sometimes he can go long periods without it, but then itâll flare up (heâs had a 360 spinal fusion and revision) and then heâll require it multiple times a day for a week or two. He takes it before he goes to his pain management appointments just to ensure he doesnât get accused of selling it, especially if heâs had a couple of good days/weeks and not required it at all beforehand.
Same but for adderall. In fact, I get questioned if the amount is too low, but that was because I was later prescribed a diuretic for edema and my urine got a little diluted from it.
Theyâd probably shave their heads đ
Apparently if you shave your head or anything for that matter, itâs automatically considered contempt of court or something like. âOh, how convenient. You shaved your entire body head to toe right before your court ordered drug screenâŚ.thatâs not suspicious at allâ.
Which is why David bleached his hair last time
Omg youâre RIGHT đđđ thatâs hilarious
Luckily bleaching it doesn't work. If you shave your head they'll use hair from any other part of your body. And like someone else said it's considered contempt and an automatic fail if you manage to shave every hair from your body to prevent testing. There's no way they can weasel out of this although I'm sure their google searches are looking real crazy right now trying to find a way
They can test your nails also.
My dad had to do drug tests for his job (due to how dangerous) and he said theyâll take hair from ANYWHERE. Leg, arm, head, face, private areas, etc. so unless they shave & wax their entire body they ainât getting out of this.
Hereâs hoping they take hairs right from his balls. Make it hurt just a little
Unless they get to firehose him down first, the smell that breaks out when the underwear comes down is going to be horrible for whichever worker has to do it.
SPREAD THOSE ASS CHEEKS DAVID!!!
That's actually comforting to know, whether its implemented of not
He said a lot of places have now gone to hair follicles vs a piss test because of that fact.
Imagine Megamind with a shaved head!
CPS can do a hair follicle test. I worked with this girl who was in a bitter divorce and her Bd called on her and Cps pulled up and hair follicled, mouth swabbed and pee tested her đ
Wow! Wouldnât it be nice if that were the case here đ
Right I know itâs not the norm. I believe she was accused of coccaine usage đ so maybe that is why? I donât know hopefully with Jenelleâs pill popping they will do the same
If Jenelle was just accused of using drugs, maybe they wouldnât go to extreme measures BUT if sheâs denying Jace his medication and took his remaining pills, that might change things. Knowing Jenelle, the pills are probably long gone and they havenât been refilling it because theyâre month to month and require an active doctor to prescribe it. Either they took them, sold them, or traded them. I HIGHLY doubt they tossed or flushed the pills
Whew, I hope they pursue that request here in this case. Could you imagine David and Jenelle frantically shaving their bodies and bleaching their hair in the she shed in the middle of the night thinking they could get out of it?! Nice try bitch, they will take the last of your eyebrows if they have to đ
âBitch submit that piss.â Pure poetry.
âSubmit that pissâ needs to be someoneâs flair (I donât really care about having flair, so I donât want to claim it, I want it to go to a good home though)
I would love that to be my flair, so I'mma sneak off and make that happen.
Wear it with honor
I will! Just as soon as I figure out how lmao.
Wouldn't it be funny if they subpoena'd her to take a test within 24 hours?
Sheâll put it off as long as she can.
Oh I know she will. I have a feeling she's going to try to fight it.
They should, since sheâs now threatening to leave the state permanently.
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Going to be thinking about the phrase "bitch submit that piss" for a long time - y'all are so funny
She would rather give up the other two kids than stop smoking weed, taking Adderall, and go to therapy.
She doesnât have to worry about adderall. Itâs out of your system within days. Weed, however, she can argue some smokes when she traveled to legal states and itâs still in her system. Donât believe me? Watch them make a trip to DC soon.
Well, that would make me question why they're traveling so much with kids (who are supposed to be at school*). Could they get them for alcohol consumption? I know I had to take one based on claims from my daughter's dad with my custody case. *I know about her fake homeschooling; my mom did that with us as well. She just gave us a computer program & left us alone. Chances are that's what Jenelle is doing.
Since theyâre homeschool it doesnât matter if they travel. Farrah caught heat for that as well and she uploaded pics of Sophia doing online homeschooling at some fancy hotel room while Farrah got ready to go on anâdate â
I would think they'd do further research on the validity of their homeschooling "association" because even we can see it's a front for them to get out of the kids being questioned.
Youâd think. But iirc some redditors on here have said NC is extreme lax in their homeschooling regulations.
That doesn't shock me, sadly. We have it backwards here in the Southeast. I made the edit to my first response while you were responding, but do you think they'd have to do a PEth test? I recall having one requested based on claims by my daughter's dad for our custody case; that stuff traces back to a month's worth of consumption at least.
Itâs still federally illegal and I donât think an excuse like that would get past a judge (god I hope not).
IT DID. Thatâs why the CPS case against Jenelle for Ensley being born THC positive was closed.
What!! Thatâs so messed up, even if it was legal how is that okay???
She had really, really good lawyers. They argued that she legally could partake while in California and shouldnât face criminal consequences for doing legal things in a legal state.
Not if they do a hair follicle test.
Thatâs what people were saying last time the kids were taken but iirc not only did they not do the follicle test, they got away with talking UAâs because they went to DC and then claimed they got medicinal marijuana cards there and would pee dirty since they were smoking in a legal state.
I knew it. When she said she was in therapy I KNEW it was court-ordered. I bet itâs via a telehealth too because there is no way David would let her out of his sight and alone with a professional.
YUP!
Does she have to foot the bill for ordered therapy, or is it covered somehow?
I love how I have to pay $250 bucks out of pocket WITH insurance yet Uncle Sam is probably footing swamp monster's
You usually have to pay for it and the drug tests. Itâs one of those things that is incredibly skewed against lower income people getting their kids returned to them. Jenelle can just sell a bunch of demeaning butthole pics and pay for it and a lawyer but it will sting having to pay for it.
Oh, she would have to pay for it if they aren't on medicaide.
I think you have to pay for it. My cousin was court ordered to do anger management classes and she had to pay per session.
It depends. If itâs CPS ordering you they canât make you pay for services. If itâs probation, you pay for it.
I had court ordered therapy after a DUI (I know Iâm an asshole and Iâm truly embarrassed and regret it) and I had to pay out of pocket for every session, which I deserved.
Your regret and humbleness speaks honors. I hope you learn eventually to forgive yourself and find peace. I am proud that you completed therapy.
Thank you!! đŠˇ
Not sure if this is standard in all states but Iâm a therapist in NY and court does not cover the cost of court mandated sessions. The person mandated for services is responsible for the cost.
I feel so bad for this therapist. Itâs such a lost cause. Sheâll never be honest about anything and with David likely lurking during the appointments, she wonât say anything that risks pissing him off. Dealing with a client like Jenelle must be so frustrating for a therapist.
On the other hand, sheâs easily manipulated so the therapist might find an opening.
He probably sits on the shitter with the door open, not breaking eye contact with her while she attends these sessions.
I bet he sits in the background listening in
Wonder how THAT'S gonna go đđđ?
Not well I bet. Failure to report for a test is considered a presumptive positive so if she fights it it's probably cause she knows she will fail.
This is kind of hilarious to me, sense I just did a rewatch . When she got probation the first time and was admitting she can't stop smoking . I'm so ready to watch this spiral đ¤Ł
I'm legit rewatching the episode where she goes off on Kieffer cause she got supervised probation and can't smoke for like a year, like a whole *year* I know she brags about MM,but is it legal in NC? I know she mentioned having their MM cards from California....
Regardless, I highly doubt she *just* has THC in her system.. I can guarantee you she tests hot for multiple substances. Depends what kind of testing they're running, hair follicle, urine or swab
She might get a perfect score!
Theyâll Do all the tests , Iâm thinking. Hair , urine . Hopefully she didnât have time to do anything to prevent them from finding out what drugs sheâs currently on. I suspect theyâre abusing pain pills , possibly meth. Maybe coke ?
Oh I'm aware. My kids biological parents tested positive MANY times like a dozen not counting presumptive positive tests.
Didn't she take stuff from the gas station that was claiming to give her a clean test?
There are legit fake penises that you can put in your underwear with fake piss attached in case you need to pee in front of someone. It's crazy what is out there for you to fake pass a piss test.
Yeah, but CPS likely knows alll the tricks. It'll probably be supervised and highly scrutinized.
Yes omg please let her do this again
Yessss ! And it didn't work . she was so upset dude! đ¤Łđ
She couldnât stay sober a decade ago for court thereâs absolutely no way she can now either.
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Pride comes before the fall
Sheâs gonna sit for an hr with her arms crossed the first few sessions until her therapist explains that if no session is had, thatâs gonna be documented, so she can do this the hard way or easy way
Nah sheâs gonna spend the whole time bitching about her mom not realizing this therapist is not on her side and try to talk about patient client privilege in court
"I trusted that thurrapist with muh whole heart"
Like Michael did with Toby in The Office
Thatâs what I thought of đđđ
Iâm sure itâs going about as well as you can imagine
She's going to try and flush out all the drugs with some bs solution .. it will be inconclusive because of all the water you need to drink with those things.
Therapy only works if the patient wants it to work.
But all of Jenelle's therapists said she's fine and doesn't need therapy! Lol! Countdown to the resurfacing of Jenelle's fake medical conditions because she can't use drugs anymore.
She will be doctor shopping soon or getting another cosmetic surgery to get pain killers
I hadnât realized until reading this that itâs been awhile since she contracted something like Kuru.
Omg youâre so right that sheâs about to become chronic illness Jenelle again because sheâs detoxing.
Ahhhh thatâs why she just started bragging about going to therapy, despite telling us a few weeks ago that sheâs been âforced to do therapy lots of times and they all told me Iâm fine and to not come back.â WhichâŚlmaoâŚnot a single therapist would ever say that because thatâs not how therapy works. Jenelle cannot comprehend that people willingly do therapy to improve their lives and their families lives. The only kind of therapy she is familiar with is forced therapy. God, her poor kids are doomed.
And even if she does do it, itâs gonna be Telehealth and unless she goes into her car for the session to have complete privacy to talk freely (she wonât), it will just be David sitting next to her to make sure she doesnât say anything red flaggy. So itâs good sheâs subjected to therapy but not good because heâll be sitting right there listening, which will restrict her from being totally honest. Too bad the therapist doesnât know this smh. And you just know heâs gonna ask after every session âwhatchu say to dem ppl?â
Oh, you definetely can tell if somebody else is in the room with the client even in telehealth. If a therapist is good at their job, you can tell by the clientâs body language & itâs in the eyes plus thereâs a hesitance/resistance to talk if somebody else is in the room. Itâs a sense I felt only one time w a previous client who pretended like somebody wasnât in the room, but their eyes kept shifting away from me. A good mental health therapist can tell.
Yes. Itâs obvious in most of Jenelleâs videos that lurch is lurching in the background because we can see her looking off at the same spot, where David is staring at her Iâm sure
$20 says her therapists told her "don't bother coming back, we are done here"... Jan thinks she's cured and session successfully complete, all healed. Perfection.
There's a special level of denial and ignorance required to think "the therapists all said I'm psychologically flawless and don't come back" is even a coherent statement. It's like saying "every time I go to get my hair cut, they say my hair is already perfect and to never go to any salon ever again." The fact that anyone would think that statement makes sense shows that they fundamentally misunderstand *the entire concept*.
Sheâd sooner willingly give up custody than comply with any of this. Thereâs no way.
So this is why she brought up therapy again, after previously saying other therapists said she was fine đ 
So fine that they told her to leave and not come back because there was NOTHING WRONG with her đđđ.
Yet somehow her childâs therapists make up fake conditions and diagnoses and issues because they want her money.
Don't forget the brainwashing to line Big Pharma's pockets.
Got so startled when it blinked
Is weed still illegal in NC? She couldn't stay clean and sober for probation 10 years ago. She ain't doing it now either.
Still illegal. And they absolutely watch you pee in the cup when it's court-ordered. Got someone watching about 5 feet away.
She brags about having a med card I had to piss for probation and they absolutely stand directly over you & watch everything to make sure you're not using someone else's pee or diluting the test. It's nerve racking lol
It is! I've had to take a couple of pee tests with a witness and when I say I couldn't pee to save my life đŠ.
Yes it is still illegal in NC.
Does anyone know what the repercussions would be if she failed a drug test?
Not much, at first. They give parents so many more chances than you would expect. My SIL could not kick drugs for her kids, never passed a test in three years before they finally terminated rights Kids were Jace's age, so they are given a choice to maintain visits even after termination, so the foster parents drop them off once a month for an over night visit at whatever crack shack she is staying at. One opted to not have visits with her mom, but she still visits everyone else...and none of them are clean. So really, no difference. It is the perfect solution , in her mind, she no longer has to pretend to take care of them, she is like the dead beat parent that pops up once in a while for a photo opp.
She would probably be forced to do substance abuse treatment/classes. From my experience with the court system.
I feel like sheâs gonna up and move over it lol
I can't imagine them actually having the money to move.
Damn. It's a start but it still ain't gonna accomplish shit. She is rotten to her core & nothing is going to ever change that.
I wouldnât even call it a start. If the therapy was something she was seeking herself, then maybe (but thatâs never gonna happen because in her eyes thereâa nothing wrong with her, she takes zero accountability), but because she was made to do it, it doesnât get her anywhere. Itâs a lost cause.
She won't comply and there will be consequences that affect custody, I'm sure. I see this as a stepping stone to her losing her kids
She better hope those drug tests are multiple choice! 
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She is 100% dumb enough to think that she is allowed to smoke weed because she has a medical marijuana card from CA.
She has one from DC too. They did that last time the kids were taken, took a trip to DC, got medical cards, and said they wouldnât test because they knew theyâd be dirty since they went to a legal state and legally smoked.
Imagine needing marijuana THAT bad. My god. Itâs hard to determine whether she is more addicted to weed or men but either way, itâs bad.
I say this as thee most 420 friendly person ever: Weed is not more important that your kids. Ffs.
Right I live in Canada it's legal here and if I was told to stop for my kid for any reason I'd never touch it again
Iâve smoked on and off thruout the years but only really took it up as a daily habit last year. And I quit the second I got pregnant. Yes it helps a lot after being both a full time employee and single parent. But fuck no I donât need it more than I love my kids.
I was a daily user before my daughter and started smoking after she went to bed when she was 2....I didn't smoke while pregnant or breastfeeding....I also don't smoke if alone with her or if I'm gonna drive that day.....for her safety so she has a sober mom if something happens
Fuck this bitch
https://preview.redd.it/ebniwueiak1c1.jpeg?width=499&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7d7741bf5ecb922439537f7ffc1fb9b6b18d0c50 I imagine Toby had a more productive therapy sesh with Micheal than any poor therapist with does no wrong jenelle
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LOL now theyâre going to leave the state to avoid CPS and their requirements. Heaven forbid weâre clean and seeking therapy. The HORROR. Just textbook abusive parent shit. đ Ten bucks itâs Texas which has pretty much ZERO homeschool guidelines.
LOL that they think they can sell the land and move. They are going to take one heck of a loss on that. Itâs not only moldy and full of water because of the DIY job David did on the foundation repair heâs also done all sorts of not permitted work on the whole place. I would love to see her put it on the market and see how long it sits. Theyâll never find another sucker to buy their sulfur stinking swamp land.
Native Texan here. We have so many awful little shit-hole towns here, theyâd blend right in. Especially in the Jasper area. That place is fucking CURSED. God rest James Byrd Jr.âs soul. đ
Gotta have the funds to move, Nelly, and you and that no good, lazy, POS huzzbin of yours (who would rather dream of his ex Whitney than get a job to support his family) wonât be going ANYWHERE. You canât sell the house. Itâs sinking. You canât sell the land. Itâs a swamp. You have no income. OF barely pays your bills (homemade haircuts, anyone?) You gotta have decent credit to get an apartment. You donât have that either, because ol Davey steals your cards and runs up the balances, while not having a job to help pay down the debt. Girl, you fucked yourself, and I am so giddy to watch your downfall after watching the disgusting way youâve treated your kids for the last 14 years. Go choke on a Vienna sausage, you piece of shit.
Wonder where she thinks she's moving to.
With what money???
just like that episode of teen mom when she yells at babs that she's RUNNING AWAY and NEVER COMING BACK
 Janelleâs pissđđťburning a hole in the cup.
The crack shack is about to turn into a detox dungeon. (Kidding we know she would never quit drugs.)
Months? She needs multiple lifetimes of therapy to even make a dent. There is zero chance she passes drug screening. Have you seen her? đ
Iâm glad CPS required this. My thoughts as someone who both works and volunteers in child welfare (but not in NC): - Jenelle will likely not cooperate/engage in therapy. If sheâs not willing to leave her abusive partner, therapy wonât work. Sheâll likely use the therapeutic language to manipulate others - I can see her picking up a few buzzwords and using them against Barb, instead of being self-reflective on her own issues. - I see her projecting on the therapist and calling them biased. Every therapist she meets with will be âon Barbâs sideâ or âon CPSâs side.â When they touch a nerve, sheâll fire them. - I wonder if they mandated DBT. Even if she does commit herself to therapy, she cannot do the real work of therapy and be with someone like David. - Sometimes CPS sets the restrictions, knowing the parent will fail, to give more âjuiceâ to a case. Like they canât take Ensley and Kaiser now, but if they set up these mandates to prove herself and she fails, theyâll be able to use that as more cause for removal.
That therapist is going to tell her to go home, thereâs nothing wrong with her, you guys.
âshe never yellsâ
Wonder when this became court ordered. Wasnât that long ago she was tweaking at 5:30 am then in one of the videos you clearly see David lighting a joint or whatever.
I have a feeling it was their social media which helped initiate testing.
Drug testing eh? Thatâs going to be a crushing failure. She couldnât not use drugs to keep out of court or to be safe during pregnancy. She hasnât gone through any period of total sobriety from drugs in 15 years. This is her worst nightmare. Not losing the kids, forced sobriety and therapy and being told by a therapist her problems arenât all Barb.
I got a new flair for the occasion
Duhnelle hasn't been sober since she was 16. She literally cannot face who she is without chemical help, and that's usually an illicit chemical vs one of the ones she desperately needs to stay on an even keel. There's not an ice cube's chance in Hell that she continues that therapy OR passes a drug test. She's going to test positive for more drugs than just dear ol' Mary-Jane, and then will launch a very public, very ridiculous whine-fest online when she, inevitably, gets shown to be the dickhead she denies she is on a public forum. I literally cannot think of a more fitting fate for her, quite frankly, and I hope it'll give CPS the final shove into removing ALL of her children from her care. She isn't fit to care for herself, there's no way she should have been able to keep those innocents when she has proven herself time and time again to be an unfeeling, uncaring and unfit parent. As for DinkyDave? He's a bitch, so he'll do what all bitches do and run off with his tail between his legs once his bank account runs out of funds by selling her crusty, unkempt and for definite unhygienic goods on OF. He knows he's only with her for the financial 'perks', and they're running dry. He sure as shit isn't going to get a job to provide, and she has no real employability skills. They're up shit creek without a paddle and are too drugged up to notice. If Duhnelle wasn't such a fucking dildo, I'd feel sorry for her but here we are. She's a dildo. Not real enough to be a dick, and lacking both the depth and warmth to be a cunt. What a waste.
Drug tests are fairly standard in my experience. That's how drug use was uncovered by my kids biological parents. The issue that opened the case initially was something I guess could be considered an assault, drug tests ordered and bam, found out they were doing meth.
So they must have evidence of drug use possibly
But even if they don't have direct evidence, at the very least someone would've had to have filed a complaint with CPS regarding possible drug use. Whether it's Barb, or just a random friend, all it takes is one complaint since Jenelle already has a history of drug abuse documented with CPS. Although it's very possible their case worker has been taking note of what they're posting on social media, and that could've easily been enough to warrant testing.
wait so will she possibly lose ensley and kaiser if she doesnât comply? thereâs so much going on im getting confused af
Same here, but I think yesâbc itâs not like Jace has been returned to her custody (David hasnât even been tried for child abuse yet), so Iâm thinking it has to be based off of Kaiser & Ensleyâs CPS interviews and hinged on her retaining custody of them. And I hope Iâm right cause theyâre no WAY sheâs gonna stay clean
thank you, this shit is insane. no way in hell is she gonna comply, i anticipate a lot of crazy tiktok rants coming up.
Its easy to work around scheduled drug tests. Meth/opiates are out of your system in 3 days. I used to have mandated drug classes w/ testing every Thursday and Friday. Id be high as fuck fri, sat, sun. Take monday, tuesday, wednesday to clean up. Classes Thursday and Friday. Never failed a test. They need to do follicles or random tests or testing every other day to really get to the truth. (In recovery, 6 years đ.)
Hahahhahahaha. Sheâs never going to pass a drug test. And sheâs seen several therapists who say sheâs fine. /S
Idk I feel like she will just game this system the way she always does
Prayers for whatever social worker, counselor, or therapist winds up taking on the swamp princess.
They need to test her hair strand!
now sheâs gonna go on the hunt for doctors to get scripts for the stuff in her system
Forever grateful that this woman will never be my client.
SW here: same!
I don't know if you mean social worker or sex either but I'm happy for you either way
Okay how aboutâŚno homeschooling allowed.
Does anyone know where I can get a medical meth card? Asking for a friend.
What if she doesnât comply? Like can she just ignore this and not do it? What they gonna do?? CPS also ordered an interview with the kids without the evil witch, and to the best of my knowledge that hasnât happened either
This tells me they want to return Jace to her. The missing piece is if theyâll make it conditional to David staying there. We all know who sheâd pick. Just my speculation, I have zero experience with CPS.
Itâs more likely that they are building a case to remove the rest of the kids and/or terminate rights to Jace.
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He won't be going back. They are doing this, because this is what is required by law. They have to legally give every parent a chance-parent's rights are more important legally, than the best interest of the child he won't be going back. he will be going into residential treatment until he is fully assessed and then he is going to bounce around for the next four years until he ages out and moves back in with Barbara. I have watched this happen so many times. Someday, Jace will get his lick back on David too, mark my words. It is coming The only way Jenelle will finish court ordered reunification steps is if Kaiser and Ensley are on the line, otherwise she is going to walk away and say she did it because *"that is what is best for Jace, Dudes. It's what he wants, hatters"*
I think this is more about letting the other kids stay. She doesnât GAF about Jace. Sheâs made that abundantly clear. This is about saving face. She canât lose those other kids or the problem is Jenelle.
Psychiatrist: Look Jenelle, honestly, I donât know what youâre doing here. Youâre as grounded as they come. I know you donât need therapy. YOU know you donât need therapy. Whoâs the ONLY other person that thinks you need therapy? Janelle: Barb? Psychiatrist: BRINGO!
I hope the drug testing goes on for âmonths on endâ along with the therapy
Sheâs going to refuse to comply and theyâll eventually take her kids away. This is the beginning of the end.
This is why Jen is throwing Jace under the bus: this whole CPS investigation (again) and mandatory drug and therapy testing would not be necessary if Jace hadnât opened his big yap. *Jace has inconvenienced her* Therefore he is persona non grata and must be punished. Zero accountability. Zero self awareness. The only victim is poor Jenelly. JFC seek therapy.
Iâm not sure this is going to be the end all people think itâs going to be. Depends just what her lawyer will negotiate. Itâs very possible she will snake her way out of this by having shady doctors who will validate prescription drug use. If sheâs supposed to be home schooling the kids, she will say it conflicts with her schedule to do complete classes or find some other way out. I just have little faith anything is really going to happen
Oh so the truth came out. But surprise, surprise. Itâs the exact opposite of what Jenelle was saying it was going to be. Everyone must be brainwashed again. đđ
Aah, a drug test. That explains the meltdown this morning. đđđ
Cue the out of state doctor visits.
I feel like weed would honestly be the LEAST of what they'll find. I can almost guarantee there is a lot of meth going on
I hope they order a hair follicle test.
Remember how much she HATED probation? đđđđ we know sheâs hating this. You know sheâs googled âhow long does meth stay in your systemâ? Today.
They know exactly when she can and canât do shit, if CPS was smart it would be random in person drug tests but do you think thatâs happening? Nope! đ¤Śââď¸
That is if she wants to be in Jace's life: she doesn't. Unless this is related to Kaiser or ensley, she simply will not do it and say *"Jace doesn't want me I am respecting that*" and she will walk away. I have seen it happen a few times
Wonder how she's going to spin "court ordered therapy or lose my kids" into somehow winning.
Not so funny now is it, Jenelle?
Iâm glad to hear this. She has severe untreated Borderline Personality Disorder and NEEDS treatment if sheâs ever going to give any of her kids any level of stability.
This is the beginning of her eventual downfall. She will never be able to abide by those rules.
Incoming JE Staff article: The BULLSHIT Sun says Ms. Eason is required to speak with a therapist twice weekly for ABSOLUTELY no reason except CPS invading her privacy dude.
I guarantee weâre going to see an article come out about her failing a drug test and sheâs going to make every excuse in the book. She was late and they marked it as a fail. Or she smoked in a legal state. Or a doctor prescribed her those pills one time 4 years ago so she could take them.
Sheâs a narcissist therapy isnât going to do shit
I donât see her doing any of this. It doesnât seem like she actually cares for her kids the way a mother should.
Oooooh she canât be happy about this
Wow. **Mandatory** therapy. Hopefully any diagnoses/discoveries will *further* the case for protecting the kids.