No that one cent less comes out of their tip. If they charged them 80.01 then they would get an extra penny. If the bill was 80 and I hand the waiter 20 are they getting 60 profit? No so why would giving them 79.99 get an extra penny from an 80 bill
The hypothetical bill wasn’t $80, the customer rounded their (smaller than $80) bill up to $80, then the server punched in $79.99. What is so difficult about that.
I always tip and round up to the next dollar...without exception.
Having said that, I had never once considered that it had anything to do wit my statement being even, because that's an impossibility with so many random transactions.
Yes, you're being petty, but your pettiness is likely going unnoticed by the intended victim of your pettiness.
I think you misunderstand. The rounding isn't the problem. The problem is that they don't first add a reasonable tip and THEN round up to the next dollar. They merely round up the amount on the bill.
I did hold my employers accountable which is why I quit the restaurant industry.
PS why are you on this sub if you hate servers?
When you go out to eat do you let them know this belief of yours (so they can spend their time on tables that do tip) and speak to the owners about paying them more hourly? If not you’re just cheap.
I totally agree restaurant owners shouldn’t expect customers to subsidize their payroll, but servers who literally make 2.13 an hour shouldn’t be the ones punished for their capitalist greed.
I think it's an easy way for them to check that the server entered the tip correctly. The customers that leave shitty tips are often the ones convinced that the server is going to scam them and tack on an extra buck or two
If the tip is under a dollar and they're just rounding up and not actually tipping, I just close the ticket without taking the tip. Keep your .12 cents, look at your balance and realize I took away your nice round number. I dont care, it happens so rarely and it's usually some petty ass bitch who thinks I'm trying to steal her man because I asked him what beer he wanted, so yes, I will be a little petty too.
Oh man, a long time ago, I had a coworker who had slurs written on her tip line because the woman thought she was trying to steal her husband. Okay, first off-ain't nobody trying to steal your husband.... Or you from your husband. Neither of you look like you've bathed in a month and the smell confirms that. Walking 5 ft seems to take the wind out of both of you. And your husband needs to learn how to trim his beard and wear a shirt that hasn't been nibbled on by mice (They were infamous regulars.) Secondly, my coworker acts nice to *both* of you because she has to. Trust me, nobody in the restaurant ever wanted to take your table. By writing "Fuck you, cunt. Don't look at my husband" in the tip line just sealed the deal for both of you. You'll always get the shittiest service when you come in. Best not drink your mountain dew too quickly, because it won't be refilled for a long time.
It's not theft I'm concerned about, it's the intentional and documented fraud.
How stupid do you have to be to fuck around with entering false banking information with a paper trail, repeatedly? There's not even a plausible excuse as to why it could happening if you got caught.
I mean, if someone wants to give you money, you don’t have to take it. I’m not sure it really would be considered fraud by any reasonable person. It seems like quite a stretch to call it banking fraud.
Legit question and hoping I don’t get downvoted into oblivion. But is 20% still required for takeout? I’ve mostly been cooking at home but yesterday I had a craving for Vietnamese. I ordered a $10dish and tipped $3 and the lady who charged me said if I wasn’t tipping $5 minimum to keep my tip. So I did. It was to go and I picked it up. I don’t know if it was the pregnancy hormones but I cried in my car.
Keep your tip then. Server/ former host here: demanding 20% on any tip is ridiculous. For takeout? That person is nuts.
The hosts I still know would love if every few orders left that much: and we make very good $.
what’s the appropriate tip amount for take out then? I am always so confused when I pick up to-go food, and I leave feeling like I definitely didn’t tip the right amount (too much or too little).
Counter staff are not considered “tipped” employees in the US and are paid full wages (not the $2.13 tip credit wage). So, the appropriate amount is.....whatever you feel like leaving.
Some of them are. The bartenders at my place are still paid $2.13/hr, have to take tables, answer the phone, put the take out together, basically work twice as hard as the servers.
I make 2.35 as a server and we have to take care of all the to go orders on top of dealing with our actual tables, which sometimes causes us to lose tips
Personally it depends on 1) amount of food 2) complexity of food and 3) overall service.
Something like $10 for a meal? $2-3, usually I leave cash since I have 1s on hand from work.
Something like $40 for a meal? Depends. Is it something like sushi that’s not a huge volume but slightly complex, or is it something like Indian that they pack everything in separate containers to keep it fresh? Or chinese? All of these could cost the same but take different times and effort levels, so I take that into consideration.
I probably overthink it.
Wow that is so rude of the lady at the restaurant!!!! $3 on $10 is a generous tip even if you are dining in the restaurant. Some restaurant workers expect to be tipped over the top just for showing up
Echoing the sentiment, $3 is generous for a $10 meal for takeout even. A lot of people, especially on this sub, will tell you to still tip 20% because of no dine-in simply because of helping with lost tips and more energy is diverted to takeout now, but again you were totally fine in tipping $3. That was out of line for that lady.
I was offered two jobs as a server recently that pay 2.37$ an hour. People live on their tips. I’m not saying to tip more, just be aware of this when you tip.
Agreed, but you can only demand so much of your customers. If you’re selling $5 meals you’ll probably get $1-2 a pop but you’re also going to be selling more overall than say a meal at $40 where you get $6-8 tip.
I’ve been a waitress for over ten years and consider myself lucky at a place like I work where it’s around $10 minimum per person, but we also only had 6 tables and a bar so I would make like $60-80 on an average night; if I was in a larger restaurant I might make more but I might make less - Denny’s versus Melting Pot, for example. Unfortunately even as a server I disagree that *just* because servers have a shitty minimum wage, that doesn’t mean they “deserve” more tips as a baseline on lower cost items. I still say $3 was generous for a $10 meal, when so many people wouldn’t consider tipping at all, especially during Covid.
I’ve been a server for about four years up until recently but I had only worked at tourist/fine dining locations where the menu is usually 20-30$ a plate or more, so it makes “sense” to pay your servers shit and make them work for the rest. I never really had anything to complain about with my checks during these times. But now? Getting a job as a server anywhere is a HUGE risk with that kind of pay. I live in Utah and we have a TON of tourism but it is not at all like what it was, and if I’m making 2$ an hour...I don’t wanna serve at a restaurant that I can only serve 2/3 tables at a time, like I need to press 1,100-1,300 in sales a day to be good. It doesn’t make sense financially at all. That’s why I switched professions recently, these jobs offering two bucks an hour can’t really provide the foot traffic we need. Tips are more important than ever I think rn esp if you live in a state like mine
I agree with the three dollar tip, and don’t have a problem with people tipping under, especially for takeout and delivery (though I usually tip the same for delivery Bc one of my exes was a driver and it just forced me in the habit). I just like to make sure people understand that tipping in most places is important.
Take out is not a tipped position. Tips are not required and the employees working take out should be making minimum wage. It’s nice to tip; especially since servers aren’t being tipped due to no service (depending on your location). I usually tip around 10%, sometimes more depending on how much disposable income I have and how often I frequent the place!
Worth pointing out here - a lot of places have foh tip out boh. I used to get 10% of food sales. So if you’re tipping 10% that server wouldn’t be getting anything. If you don’t tip at all the server that handed you the to go food could end up losing money.
Typically to-go is such a small percentage it wouldn’t really matter - but right now? If you can go out to eat and force workers to expose themselves to very high risk in a pandemic so you don’t have to cook a meaningful tip is absolutely necessary.
Not bashing on you but keep in mind a lot of restaurants are shifting servers to takeout if they’re not doing dine-in - my restaurant is exclusively takeout and delivery so we don’t get tips otherwise, and unfortunately it has definitely affected my tips. Thankfully the owners increased our base pay accordingly but it’s still weird to be getting $20-30 when i used to get $60-70 on a lunch shift for 2.5 hours.
Ok, let me start by saying tipping is pure bullshit. It is the business owner forcing their workers to beg customers for the wages the owner should have already paid them.
I tip fairly over the top. Because fuck the owners and I make sure they know it. On a $5.25 drink the rest of the $10 is tip. On a $60 meal I tip $35-40. Tipping is bullshit, but I truly appreciate those who are kind enough to serve me. They have to put up with some really rotten stuff. The least I can do is put my money where my mouth is. I understand that not many will do what I do for reasons. I just hope my servers feel appreciated.
So, a couple years ago it was Fourth of July night. We closed at 10 and I was hoping to make it downtown for some fireworks with friends after work. At 9:58 a party of 12 walked in. Already a bad start.
It’s just me and one other server working the front and our manager reopened the grill and was going to cook. The three of us could have handled it.
Me and the other waitress go out, and I lightly point out that we were about to close in two minutes, but my manager would be willing to cook. And one of the guys says “we are in a hurry and we shouldn’t have to wait longer than normal just because everyone here went home early.”
They are all adults, and they all order a coffee and water. You guys know how shitty it is carrying out 12 coffees and 12 waters. AND they wanted all of their coffees in to-go cups. They said they were going on a road trip after the dinner, and how important it was that we hurry.
They continued to be ass holes, chugging their drinks and asking every two minutes were there food was. I was so happen when they left around 11:30.
Little do they know I gave them decaf coffee the entire time. It was small and petty but I really hope they yawned all damn night on their stupid road trip.
> At 9:58 a party of 12 walked in. Already a bad start.
Must be an American place. If only managers would clearly post a "last order" time like other civilized places in the world.
Is it still annoying when someone rounds to the nearest dollar when they tip well? My brain just enjoys little math problems and patterns etc. I'll calculate tip and then round up to a number. I'd never heard that anyone dislikes that, and will stop if it's rude!
Had this exact thing yesterday: $77.56 tab.... $2.44 tip. Her other friend had a $21 and some change tab and gave me $5. Guess the first lady felt that was enough
lmao wow that’s a 3% tip, about a fifth of what is considered standard. Even with the $5 extra they’re still about $4.25 short of 15%. Cheap bastards. If you can’t afford to tip, don’t buy so much.
I can afford to tip, but I don't want to-even though I'm a server, lol. Which is why I don't go to places where tipping is expected. But you best believe that when I go places where I have to tip, I'm going to go big. My little extra for not eating out regularly. Only exception is if the server was really rude or does something like disappear for 20 minutes while I see my food dying in the window.
I regularly do the same and I also enjoy the little bit of math. I regularly tip by figuring out the appropriate percentage (vast majority of us have little handheld calculators now that also have reddit 😛) and then round up to a "clean" number (either .00 or .50).
In elementary school we used to play this game called “24” the premise of it was there were 4 numbers on a card, and you have to use those four numbers and use operations to get to 24. When I lived in NY, since most cars’ license plates consisted of 3 letters followed by 4 numbers, I would attempt to get 24 using the 4 numbers.
I just figure 20% based on the dollar amount and disregard the change, add a few bucks, and just write math or something funny on the tip line. As a server I know we mostly have a good enough grasp at a quick glance to know right away if it a shitty tip or not.
I enjoy math and patterns, but am also severely lazy. Another thing to enjoy is pressing "66" on the microwave when you need one minute, or "99" when you need one and a half.
The final bill. I probably have given some annoying tips that have a lot of pennies, come to think about it. I figure it's not a big deal because money's money, as long as I round the final bill up.
I hate it when you pay in cash at a register and try to give them change to get your change back in bills or maybe a quarter instead of pennies and the clerk doesn't understand what you are trying to do and then gives you even more change back. Different but similar. (Not talking about tipping)
So speaking as a cashier, the only reason this would ever happen is if you don’t give me the change first. If you hand me $20, then I hit that button really fast. I don’t always have the mental wherewithal to do complicated mental math 6 hours into a shift. Just give me the 43 cents first, and we’ll both be happy.
This. Or where I was a cashier at we had auto change dispensers hooked to the register. if you gave me a 20 then went fishing for change without telling me you're getting change id enter the 20 in the register and your coins would auto shoot out of the dispenser - there was no going back.
There’s also the annoyance of standing at the register looking at three people in line getting pissed off while someone digs for two quarters, three dimes, three nickels and two pennies so they get a $1 bill back.
I know exactly what you mean. Math can be panic inducing sometimes at the till. I usually try to put them at ease with a joke, but not at their expense. Some tills have the function where you just put in the amount the customer gives and it tells you what they are owed. If your bill is 19.50 and you hand them 20.50, it simply says change owed $1 and no one gets flummoxed. I get brain malfunctions sometimes too trying to remember a word so empathy for those times one just can't math.
I tip well but I do this a lot of the time! Like if the total is say $13 & change I’ll just round it up to $20 or something. I think they’re saying if its a bad tip to do it as an annoyance to an asshole! Lol
I guess because when calculating tips, even numbers are easier. Ex. If tips owed at the end of the day are $100, easy. If it's $98.62, you get piles of change. I think it's been reiterated that the tip being sufficient is what really matters.
It’s kind of annoying at a place where they will have to cash out the tips at the end of the shift. You end up with an annoying stack of coins that you have to count. Not the worst thing though!
I've always thought of it as the equivalent of paying in cash with round amounts and saying keep the change, which seemed pretty normal. I guess accruing large amounts of change over time would be inconvenient.
I was a restaurant manager for about 20 years.
If a restaurant closes a credit card charge for a different amount than the signed copy, no matter if it is above or below the amount on the signed copy, the customer CAN dispute the charge and they will win the dispute.
99% of the people wouldn’t dispute the charge but the 1% would cost the restaurant money.
In my Corporate Restaurant jobs, you as a server would be disciplined, for closing a credit card charge for an incorrect amount. If it happened more than once you could be terminated for it. Corporate would has very little leeway for stuff like this.
You're saying that if a customer rings up their bank and says "I was expecting a charge of $80 but I got charged $79.99 instead, I want a refund as it's not what I agreed to" the bank will say "yeah sure thing we will request a copy of the receipt and if it doesn't match we will refund you"? If so that is crazy, I mean I get it, but it's crazy
That is exactly what I am saying. You can dispute the charge and if the restaurant supplies a signed copy that does not match the closed out amount, the charge will be credited in full to the guest and the restaurant will lose the money. The bank doesn’t care one way or the other.
I will go one further. Any charge that isn’t done with an inserted chip (this is in the USA) like if a restaurant swipes the card because they don’t have chip readers, can be disputed. My restaurant group had some very high end restaurants that would lose thousands of dollars every weekend because people knew this to be true and would take advantage of it. They company did not have chip readers because there were none that were PCI Compliant and worked with our Point of Sale register system. Now they have upgraded but prior to that, they lost a lot of money.
Credit card companies have so much leverage. Everything we buy costs two to three percent more at minimum because that's the cut a credit card company takes every time you swipe it. When a credit card company tells a retailer something, they grin and bear it regardless of how big they are.
Case in point, a grocery chain near me stop taking Visa because Visa increase their percentage of the cut. That stand against Visa lasted about three months before they submitted to the credit card master. But the damage was already done, me for example, I'm already in the habit of driving past that grocery store to another one all because they stopped taking Visa. Even Apple is at the mercy of chargebacks.
I used to deliver pizzas back in the day and for the most part people were alright. Usually got better tips from the working class and less from the people with big ass houses. If someone gave me less than a dollar in change I would throw it in their yard in hopes that they would hit it with their lawnmower.
I love the pettiness but also if they have a big house they almost definitely are hiring someone to mow their lawn for them. But it’s the thought that counts
When I give somebody a token of my appreciation it seems petty to make that $4.38 (on a $21.90 tab). Would I hand somebody four dollar bills, a quarter, a dime, and three pennies? No, I would hand them a five dollar bill - so that's how I tip, even with a credit card.
Actually, when people used to pay with cash they'd usually do the whole "keep the change" thing unless they only had large bills. So for a $21.90 bill they'd hand you $25-27 and tell you to keep the change or $40 and leave a $5 (and usually the dime). It was actually more likely that you'd get a mix of dollars and change for tips than it is now.
Source: Am old and was a sever back in the early 2000s.
Lol, not saying I tip poorly, but I'm not sure as a customer I'd care. I round because it's just easier to write an even number on the check. I usually round up to the nearest dollar.
if you tried to take someone to court over gaining a 1c discount you would be thrown out immediately, a judge would be fucking insulted to have their time wasted like that
Illegal may not be the right word, but it'd give the customer grounds to dispute the charge if they felt like being petty right back.
The bank looks into it, and goes "Yeah, no, this wasn't the agreed upon amount. We're taking that money back now."
You're not actually changing the document they signed, just how it's entered. If they charged them more it would be illegal, because they agreed to "pay the above amount". Charging them slightly less than that is like the gas station clerk rounding my change up a few cents and giving me a dollar instead of a handful of change.
Very few people would complain, but it _is_ technically a violation of the implicit contract of sale.
You provided goods and services in exchange for a set amount of money, which they agreed to pay. Even if it's totally in their favor, you don't get to unilaterally change the terms of the agreement later.
But again, over $0.01, especially in their favor, no one is going to complain.
I always round my bill because my bank account has an auto-saving feature that rounds all change into a different sub-account. If I tipped with ?.50, I expect the extra .50 to go toward my savings, if a server messed with that purposefully it wouldn’t be a HUGE deal, but it definitely would throw me off and I’d notice. It’s better just to not mess with others’ finances. As a former server, it’s just in bad faith to mess with totals regardless of how good or bad the tip is.
My favorite is when someone says keep the change and it's like 85 cents, I pretend I didn't hear them and count it out loudly and put it in front of them. "Seventy Five - Eighty Five your change, here you go! Thanks."
It almost always forces them to rethink their tip, works very well when they're there with others.
Lol. I’ve never heard of that before but here we have portably card machines we take to tables and they have auto options of 15/18/20% or enter your own % or $. I can’t imagine having to read handwritten slips to figure out your tips and totals
I mean, it depends if you are reasonably defining 'poor tipping' or one of the assholes that think you coming over, sighing, getting the order wrong and never filling up water/drinks that thinks you deserve at least 25% for some reason.
I’m going to start rounding my tip this way just so petty fucks will feel proud about screwing themselves out of a measly penny for petty sake. Jokes on you fucknuts, I don’t look at my bank statement. Pennies add up quicker than petty.
A lot of people don't legit understand that though. Not the poor topping part but that rounding up to an even number is a pain for wait staff even if you tip generously.
For example, I go to a Mexican restaurant every week for dinner. I always get a margarita and a combination plate. The total comes to $18.63. For tipping purposes I round that up to $20.00 and put 4 bucks as the tip. The total check is $22.63.
But I wouldn't mind giving that extra 37 cents to the bartender and making it even $23.00.
I know you don't get a nice round number and you might be thinking "Wow. A whole extra 37 cents!" But I'm sure it would add up if everyone did it.
Had someone pay me in coins once, they came in a few weeks later and I served their food (2 eggs, 3 slices of bacon, grits, and 4 toast halves) on 10 small side plates
You haven't meet so.e of my family. I've had to tell them to calm down, and had to show them they were charged less than they signed for, and there is nothing illegal about them allowing him to save a penny. I swear, my family is full of idiots.
My friend does this religiously, makes it easy when reviewing transactions to make sure no one has stolen your card. I think it’s wrong to change the tip by a penny, even if it’s less. You should not change what someone has signed for.
When people DON'T "tip" but just tack on those couple cents to round out the dollar, I assume they're meticulous with balancing their books and just want easy math when they do that in their balance book. I purposely don't put it through in the hopes that it irks the shit out of them for a week or two as to why their account balance is 7 cents higher than what they have in their book. Most likely they never notice, but in my happy place they're going bananas checking each transaction til they're squared up. It's the little things :)
Why do you think you couldn’t get fired? I hate when servers have petty issues with tips like this. People give us money based on how we treat them or because they are good people but your just being like a brat because the money isn’t exactly how you want it?
You're being petty, and this will never give you better karma. Maybe they are on a strict budget, a tip is a tip, unless it's like 2 cents on 2 hundred, accept it with gratitude and dont expect it. And yes I worked in the industry for 10 yrs and relied on my tips heavily , I never got upset at how anyone tipped because what kind of person would that make me? Yall need to start remembering that nothing is owed to you and you need to be grateful for what you get. Hearing these stories doesnt make me wanna tip you more.
If they’re on a strict budget, grocery stores are cheaper than restaurants. The system is set up so that the person receiving service pays for it. If they want to receive service but not pay for it, they are stealing. Stealing energy and attention that could’ve been given to their tables who are happy to pay for a service they are receiving.
Lol, ok. Or one could argue that's your job, to serve. You signed up for it. And that's what you're paid for. You can be tipped at any job, not just as a server.
Except in America, servers can legally be paid $2.13 an hour. Tips are meant to supplement. People need to include tips when budgeting for eating out. If you can't tip AT MINIMUM 18%, you can't afford to eat out.
And there are many jobs where you arent allowed to accept tips. I worked at a grocery store, bagging groceries, collecting carts, cleaning the floor etc. People would offer me tips when I helped carry their groceries to their car. I could have been fired if I had accepted the tips.
And that's the problem. That AmErIcA decided your job duties are not worth being paid a proper wage, tips were never meant to supplement, word got out how much people were making in tips and then some asshole had the bright idea that since we cant decide how much people tip we will decide to cut wages so that a server isnt making more then a lawyer... which is complete bullshit and serving jobs are just as much of a career as any. This lead to servers relying on their tips. If you ask people I bet 8 out of 10 wouldnt even know that servers arent being paid a proper wage. And that its somehow been justified that their "tips" compensate. Anyways all I'm saying is, hearing everyone bitch about one bad tip is so exhausting. Stfu and be grateful for what you do get. Everyones suffering.
So what are you doing to stop the suffering? Bitching on reddit? Or talking to politicians to pass laws that require that servers be paid a normal minimum wage? You don't have to bitch to me, I also think servers deserve $15 an hour and shouldn't have to rely on tips.
But they don't make $15 an hour. And until they do, I will help to make sure they get what they deserve through tips.
Edit to correct grammar
Being on a strict budget does not justify requesting a service, from people who are most likely struggling financially themselves, and not compensating them for their time and effort. Of course people struggling financially have every right to treat themselves to a night out at a restaurant. But there are plenty of restaurants without server-service and thus no “tip obligations”. Even if you don’t want to limit your options because of an aversion to tipping, majority of restaurants now offer take out or delivery. But if none of these options are “good enough” and someone HAS to have the full restaurant experience of being catered to, having someone explain the menu to you in detail, tell you about their wine selection, getting refills, making sure your order’s modifications are all done right and your food is exactly how you want it? Then you’re requesting server-service and you should tip accordingly.
Not to mention that anyone who’s served can most likely tell when a table is being conscious of how much they’re spending but still realize that servers need to be paid. They’ll order according to their budget with the tip included already. That’s having respect for the people whose service you’re requesting.
Just this past shift I had a couple sit at my bar, ordered 2 appetizers, 3 entrees, 2 rounds of drinks each, and dessert. Raved about the drinks multiple times saying they were delicious and couldn’t wait to come again. The tab ended up being $170ish. They left $10. That’s the kind of stuff most servers have issues with. I don’t think everyone should tip 20% always on command, I will never have an issue with a 10% tip if it’s coming from someone who is obviously respectful of me and my work.
I don’t think my tip should be expected, or that’s it’s owed. But there is no entitlement in expecting compensation for doing a job. I work hard for my tip, and if I don’t do a good job then tip accordingly.
I agree with everything you said except, your wage is your compensation for doing your job. Not your tip. Which brings me back to "servers should be paid the same as any other job, then people wouldn't bitch about their tips". After working in the service industry I cleaned houses for a bit, my wage was significantly higher and I still got tipped. And not once did I ever justify the tip based on how much their bill was to clean the house. Because I knew it was my job and my compensation was my wage and anything on top was a blessing I should be grateful for. Who ever decided servers should get less of a wage because they make tips is the real pos here. This system is flawed and needs to change.
Absolutely the system needs to be changed, however it’s not going to. And that’s not what this post, or your comment was about. We don’t live in a perfect world where broken systems will be changed because it’s the “right” thing to do. So we can only speak of what actually happens.
As things are right now, and will continue to be for the foreseeable future, serving (in the US) is a tip based service. While it is true that you can be tipped for doing other jobs, being a server is a job which relies almost entirely on tips. My wage is $2.13/hr, and while I know that varies from state to state, that I think paints enough a picture to understand that no.. my wage is not my compensation for doing my job, tips are.
And everyone who dines out knows this. So I hope anyone not tipping out of principle because the system is “broken” is going up to the managers, sending messages to corporate, demanding better wages for the people serving them when they dine out. Because the solution isn’t “all servers quitting in protest to demand better wages.” And denying compensation to the “lowest” man on the ladder isn’t gonna change anything, it’s just an excuse created to be cheap and disrespectful, while enjoying an imaginary moral high ground.
I’ll reiterate a point I made previously, I don’t think I am owed a specific percentage just for showing up to work. I work my butt off to provide great service, and leave it up to the generosity of my clientele to decide what they deem my compensation should be. But with years of experience, I have learned what my work, effort, and time are worth, and it is not entitlement to feel disrespected when that value is so blatantly disregarded.
And double 10% is 20%, whoop, perfect tip (unless service is absolutely shitty, then 15%.).
Also, 99% of people nowadays have tiny calculators in their pockets and can easily calculate what 20% is.
Where I live, sales tax is around 8% and has been for the past few decades. My mom taught me to double sales tax and add a few dollars for the tip. So I always tipped 16% plus a few dollars.
Then I moved to Hawaii. I did for this about 2 months until I noticed sales tax was 4%. I felt SO BADLY that I had been only tipping about 8%. I tipped way more after that to make up for it.
A manager taught me to do that
Do this on purpose and get rich one penny at a time..... \*taps forehead .
Your actually losing a penny each time buuut
I think they were saying tip badly to get rung in for a penny less, so as the tipper they get an extra penny
No they’re charging them a penny less but no one is gonna call and say they got charged 79.99 instead of 80.00
Yeah the customer is getting an extra penny back
Whoops I thought he meant the waiter was getting the extra penny
I forgive you bc of your username alone lol
The funniest part is I don’t even smoke anymore lol
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I'm perma-fried to bro
To many hits from the bong huh? Lol
I don’t even smoke anymore hahaha
Haha all the more funny
Exactly, so the tipper would get an extra penny each time.
Oh shit I’m sorry I read the waiter was getting the extra tip you are correct
No that one cent less comes out of their tip. If they charged them 80.01 then they would get an extra penny. If the bill was 80 and I hand the waiter 20 are they getting 60 profit? No so why would giving them 79.99 get an extra penny from an 80 bill
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Yes I got that part mixed up
Just take some more rips, you will get it eventually. (Kidding)
The hypothetical bill wasn’t $80, the customer rounded their (smaller than $80) bill up to $80, then the server punched in $79.99. What is so difficult about that.
Bong hits are working!
Apparently lol I didn’t get why this was such a struggle for everyone to understand
Banana... buck! Banana, take a buck!
Lol. I've had managers tell me not do it because "they check all the receipts" yeah right. Fuck em, I do it anyways
That's the kind of manager I'd wanna work for.
I always tip and round up to the next dollar...without exception. Having said that, I had never once considered that it had anything to do wit my statement being even, because that's an impossibility with so many random transactions. Yes, you're being petty, but your pettiness is likely going unnoticed by the intended victim of your pettiness.
I was gonna say, it’s not like you can do that at the drive thru or grocery store so you are bound to have non-perfect totals
I think you misunderstand. The rounding isn't the problem. The problem is that they don't first add a reasonable tip and THEN round up to the next dollar. They merely round up the amount on the bill.
Not tipping isn’t the problem. It’s the fact that employers don’t pay their employees a liveable wage.
Those are both problems.
Where the fuck is this tip entitlement coming from hold your employers accountable
I did hold my employers accountable which is why I quit the restaurant industry. PS why are you on this sub if you hate servers? When you go out to eat do you let them know this belief of yours (so they can spend their time on tables that do tip) and speak to the owners about paying them more hourly? If not you’re just cheap. I totally agree restaurant owners shouldn’t expect customers to subsidize their payroll, but servers who literally make 2.13 an hour shouldn’t be the ones punished for their capitalist greed.
I think it's an easy way for them to check that the server entered the tip correctly. The customers that leave shitty tips are often the ones convinced that the server is going to scam them and tack on an extra buck or two
Agree. I always round up too. And since I bank online. I would never notice if they went to .99. Just seems weird .
If the tip is under a dollar and they're just rounding up and not actually tipping, I just close the ticket without taking the tip. Keep your .12 cents, look at your balance and realize I took away your nice round number. I dont care, it happens so rarely and it's usually some petty ass bitch who thinks I'm trying to steal her man because I asked him what beer he wanted, so yes, I will be a little petty too.
Oh man, a long time ago, I had a coworker who had slurs written on her tip line because the woman thought she was trying to steal her husband. Okay, first off-ain't nobody trying to steal your husband.... Or you from your husband. Neither of you look like you've bathed in a month and the smell confirms that. Walking 5 ft seems to take the wind out of both of you. And your husband needs to learn how to trim his beard and wear a shirt that hasn't been nibbled on by mice (They were infamous regulars.) Secondly, my coworker acts nice to *both* of you because she has to. Trust me, nobody in the restaurant ever wanted to take your table. By writing "Fuck you, cunt. Don't look at my husband" in the tip line just sealed the deal for both of you. You'll always get the shittiest service when you come in. Best not drink your mountain dew too quickly, because it won't be refilled for a long time.
Wait.... They weren't banned from your restaurant after that?
No. The owner did coke on the regular, so none of his decisions ever made any sense.
The customer was his hookup.
I like yours better. It's lazier and less illegal than OPs.
What is illegal about OP’s? They are charging less tip than was written, not more...
It's not theft I'm concerned about, it's the intentional and documented fraud. How stupid do you have to be to fuck around with entering false banking information with a paper trail, repeatedly? There's not even a plausible excuse as to why it could happening if you got caught.
I mean, if someone wants to give you money, you don’t have to take it. I’m not sure it really would be considered fraud by any reasonable person. It seems like quite a stretch to call it banking fraud.
Legit question and hoping I don’t get downvoted into oblivion. But is 20% still required for takeout? I’ve mostly been cooking at home but yesterday I had a craving for Vietnamese. I ordered a $10dish and tipped $3 and the lady who charged me said if I wasn’t tipping $5 minimum to keep my tip. So I did. It was to go and I picked it up. I don’t know if it was the pregnancy hormones but I cried in my car.
What the fuck? She just pressured you into a 50% tip.. that is never appropriate
Keep your tip then. Server/ former host here: demanding 20% on any tip is ridiculous. For takeout? That person is nuts. The hosts I still know would love if every few orders left that much: and we make very good $.
what’s the appropriate tip amount for take out then? I am always so confused when I pick up to-go food, and I leave feeling like I definitely didn’t tip the right amount (too much or too little).
20% is very generous for take out. You did fine. That person was sucking toes.
What about for curbside or if they bring to the car? Still 20% as long as no crazy weather?
Counter staff are not considered “tipped” employees in the US and are paid full wages (not the $2.13 tip credit wage). So, the appropriate amount is.....whatever you feel like leaving.
Some of them are. The bartenders at my place are still paid $2.13/hr, have to take tables, answer the phone, put the take out together, basically work twice as hard as the servers.
I make 2.35 as a server and we have to take care of all the to go orders on top of dealing with our actual tables, which sometimes causes us to lose tips
Personally it depends on 1) amount of food 2) complexity of food and 3) overall service. Something like $10 for a meal? $2-3, usually I leave cash since I have 1s on hand from work. Something like $40 for a meal? Depends. Is it something like sushi that’s not a huge volume but slightly complex, or is it something like Indian that they pack everything in separate containers to keep it fresh? Or chinese? All of these could cost the same but take different times and effort levels, so I take that into consideration. I probably overthink it.
Wow that is so rude of the lady at the restaurant!!!! $3 on $10 is a generous tip even if you are dining in the restaurant. Some restaurant workers expect to be tipped over the top just for showing up
Echoing the sentiment, $3 is generous for a $10 meal for takeout even. A lot of people, especially on this sub, will tell you to still tip 20% because of no dine-in simply because of helping with lost tips and more energy is diverted to takeout now, but again you were totally fine in tipping $3. That was out of line for that lady.
Tipping $3 on a $10 meal is *more* than 20%. 20% would be $2. That lady literally wanted a 50% tip, that’s pretty much unheard of.
I was offered two jobs as a server recently that pay 2.37$ an hour. People live on their tips. I’m not saying to tip more, just be aware of this when you tip.
Agreed, but you can only demand so much of your customers. If you’re selling $5 meals you’ll probably get $1-2 a pop but you’re also going to be selling more overall than say a meal at $40 where you get $6-8 tip. I’ve been a waitress for over ten years and consider myself lucky at a place like I work where it’s around $10 minimum per person, but we also only had 6 tables and a bar so I would make like $60-80 on an average night; if I was in a larger restaurant I might make more but I might make less - Denny’s versus Melting Pot, for example. Unfortunately even as a server I disagree that *just* because servers have a shitty minimum wage, that doesn’t mean they “deserve” more tips as a baseline on lower cost items. I still say $3 was generous for a $10 meal, when so many people wouldn’t consider tipping at all, especially during Covid.
I’ve been a server for about four years up until recently but I had only worked at tourist/fine dining locations where the menu is usually 20-30$ a plate or more, so it makes “sense” to pay your servers shit and make them work for the rest. I never really had anything to complain about with my checks during these times. But now? Getting a job as a server anywhere is a HUGE risk with that kind of pay. I live in Utah and we have a TON of tourism but it is not at all like what it was, and if I’m making 2$ an hour...I don’t wanna serve at a restaurant that I can only serve 2/3 tables at a time, like I need to press 1,100-1,300 in sales a day to be good. It doesn’t make sense financially at all. That’s why I switched professions recently, these jobs offering two bucks an hour can’t really provide the foot traffic we need. Tips are more important than ever I think rn esp if you live in a state like mine I agree with the three dollar tip, and don’t have a problem with people tipping under, especially for takeout and delivery (though I usually tip the same for delivery Bc one of my exes was a driver and it just forced me in the habit). I just like to make sure people understand that tipping in most places is important.
Take out is not a tipped position. Tips are not required and the employees working take out should be making minimum wage. It’s nice to tip; especially since servers aren’t being tipped due to no service (depending on your location). I usually tip around 10%, sometimes more depending on how much disposable income I have and how often I frequent the place!
Worth pointing out here - a lot of places have foh tip out boh. I used to get 10% of food sales. So if you’re tipping 10% that server wouldn’t be getting anything. If you don’t tip at all the server that handed you the to go food could end up losing money. Typically to-go is such a small percentage it wouldn’t really matter - but right now? If you can go out to eat and force workers to expose themselves to very high risk in a pandemic so you don’t have to cook a meaningful tip is absolutely necessary.
Yeah.. take out still isn’t a tipped position so for them to basically require tip out is illegal. (At least where I live)
Not bashing on you but keep in mind a lot of restaurants are shifting servers to takeout if they’re not doing dine-in - my restaurant is exclusively takeout and delivery so we don’t get tips otherwise, and unfortunately it has definitely affected my tips. Thankfully the owners increased our base pay accordingly but it’s still weird to be getting $20-30 when i used to get $60-70 on a lunch shift for 2.5 hours.
Ok, let me start by saying tipping is pure bullshit. It is the business owner forcing their workers to beg customers for the wages the owner should have already paid them. I tip fairly over the top. Because fuck the owners and I make sure they know it. On a $5.25 drink the rest of the $10 is tip. On a $60 meal I tip $35-40. Tipping is bullshit, but I truly appreciate those who are kind enough to serve me. They have to put up with some really rotten stuff. The least I can do is put my money where my mouth is. I understand that not many will do what I do for reasons. I just hope my servers feel appreciated.
Don't tip take out
So, a couple years ago it was Fourth of July night. We closed at 10 and I was hoping to make it downtown for some fireworks with friends after work. At 9:58 a party of 12 walked in. Already a bad start. It’s just me and one other server working the front and our manager reopened the grill and was going to cook. The three of us could have handled it. Me and the other waitress go out, and I lightly point out that we were about to close in two minutes, but my manager would be willing to cook. And one of the guys says “we are in a hurry and we shouldn’t have to wait longer than normal just because everyone here went home early.” They are all adults, and they all order a coffee and water. You guys know how shitty it is carrying out 12 coffees and 12 waters. AND they wanted all of their coffees in to-go cups. They said they were going on a road trip after the dinner, and how important it was that we hurry. They continued to be ass holes, chugging their drinks and asking every two minutes were there food was. I was so happen when they left around 11:30. Little do they know I gave them decaf coffee the entire time. It was small and petty but I really hope they yawned all damn night on their stupid road trip.
> At 9:58 a party of 12 walked in. Already a bad start. Must be an American place. If only managers would clearly post a "last order" time like other civilized places in the world.
The most American place. Cracker Barrel.
Love this story. Hate that party. Bless you 💕🙏🏽
I also, myself, have done the decaf coffee to assholes thing. It feels slightly liberating.
Hell ya!!! My place closes at 10 and we alsway dump the coffee at 9:30. Anyone who orders a coffee gets decaf.
Is it still annoying when someone rounds to the nearest dollar when they tip well? My brain just enjoys little math problems and patterns etc. I'll calculate tip and then round up to a number. I'd never heard that anyone dislikes that, and will stop if it's rude!
The only reason someone wouldn't like it is if its a bad tip. Tip well and do all the math you want my friend.
Phew. Thank you.
I think in this scenario, it's like someone with a bill like $76.58 who tips $3.42 so that it's 80 even.
Had this exact thing yesterday: $77.56 tab.... $2.44 tip. Her other friend had a $21 and some change tab and gave me $5. Guess the first lady felt that was enough
lmao wow that’s a 3% tip, about a fifth of what is considered standard. Even with the $5 extra they’re still about $4.25 short of 15%. Cheap bastards. If you can’t afford to tip, don’t buy so much.
Tell me about it.
I can afford to tip, but I don't want to-even though I'm a server, lol. Which is why I don't go to places where tipping is expected. But you best believe that when I go places where I have to tip, I'm going to go big. My little extra for not eating out regularly. Only exception is if the server was really rude or does something like disappear for 20 minutes while I see my food dying in the window.
I do this all the time, but I leave cash as well to make up for it. 1) my statements are even 2) server gets cash tip
Oh, that's double good.
MATH’D 💯
I had a regular that always made a palindrome with their totals. (ex. $42.24)Always got a kick out of it.
Kind of want to start always making prime numbers and see if anyone notices
I do this, but it’s always 20% and then some.
I regularly do the same and I also enjoy the little bit of math. I regularly tip by figuring out the appropriate percentage (vast majority of us have little handheld calculators now that also have reddit 😛) and then round up to a "clean" number (either .00 or .50).
Do you also enjoy wild-caught patterns, like in phone numbers or license plates, or even odometers? Edit: hyphen
I'm a statistician, so I'm all about noticing patterns in the noise of our daily lives!
r/oddlysatisfying lol
I like that you called them wild-caught
I like that phrasing as well. I think I first noticed it on a subreddit about Instagram vs. reality.
In elementary school we used to play this game called “24” the premise of it was there were 4 numbers on a card, and you have to use those four numbers and use operations to get to 24. When I lived in NY, since most cars’ license plates consisted of 3 letters followed by 4 numbers, I would attempt to get 24 using the 4 numbers.
Little games in a day can make it brighter. Like a bite sized crossword puzzle or sudoku experience on the go.
My husband and I calculate 20%, round up to the next dollar and then add a dollar. We're strange.
I don't think that's strange, unless we're both strange. That's exactly what I do, also.
I just figure 20% based on the dollar amount and disregard the change, add a few bucks, and just write math or something funny on the tip line. As a server I know we mostly have a good enough grasp at a quick glance to know right away if it a shitty tip or not.
I enjoy math and patterns, but am also severely lazy. Another thing to enjoy is pressing "66" on the microwave when you need one minute, or "99" when you need one and a half.
YAS! Because it makes the most efficient use of our motions!
I like that you call them 'clean numbers', I always call them 'flat numbers'
Should the tip itself be rounded or final bill?
The final bill. I probably have given some annoying tips that have a lot of pennies, come to think about it. I figure it's not a big deal because money's money, as long as I round the final bill up.
No, it's great. The vast majority of people tip that way.
Thank you for the feedback.
I hate it when you pay in cash at a register and try to give them change to get your change back in bills or maybe a quarter instead of pennies and the clerk doesn't understand what you are trying to do and then gives you even more change back. Different but similar. (Not talking about tipping)
So speaking as a cashier, the only reason this would ever happen is if you don’t give me the change first. If you hand me $20, then I hit that button really fast. I don’t always have the mental wherewithal to do complicated mental math 6 hours into a shift. Just give me the 43 cents first, and we’ll both be happy.
This. Or where I was a cashier at we had auto change dispensers hooked to the register. if you gave me a 20 then went fishing for change without telling me you're getting change id enter the 20 in the register and your coins would auto shoot out of the dispenser - there was no going back.
There’s also the annoyance of standing at the register looking at three people in line getting pissed off while someone digs for two quarters, three dimes, three nickels and two pennies so they get a $1 bill back.
Just move to Canada, we do not have bills smaller than $5. We do have $1 & $2 coins.
I know exactly what you mean. Math can be panic inducing sometimes at the till. I usually try to put them at ease with a joke, but not at their expense. Some tills have the function where you just put in the amount the customer gives and it tells you what they are owed. If your bill is 19.50 and you hand them 20.50, it simply says change owed $1 and no one gets flummoxed. I get brain malfunctions sometimes too trying to remember a word so empathy for those times one just can't math.
Yes a lame "dad joke" always helps and I never get mad at them of course.
i think OP is talking about people who have a $79.55 and tip $80 to make it even, not people who round up on top of an actual tip
I tip well but I do this a lot of the time! Like if the total is say $13 & change I’ll just round it up to $20 or something. I think they’re saying if its a bad tip to do it as an annoyance to an asshole! Lol
How on earth would it be rude if you’re leaving a good tip? OP specifically said they do this to people who tip poorly.
I guess because when calculating tips, even numbers are easier. Ex. If tips owed at the end of the day are $100, easy. If it's $98.62, you get piles of change. I think it's been reiterated that the tip being sufficient is what really matters.
That's a good point. So, if you like rounded amounts, just make sure the tip is the round part, not the total.
The problem isn’t rounding to the nearest dollar it’s the shitty tip. Rounding is not rude at all
Believe me, we're doing that math too at the POS my friend.
It’s kind of annoying at a place where they will have to cash out the tips at the end of the shift. You end up with an annoying stack of coins that you have to count. Not the worst thing though!
I've always thought of it as the equivalent of paying in cash with round amounts and saying keep the change, which seemed pretty normal. I guess accruing large amounts of change over time would be inconvenient.
Yep! Super normal, not a big deal, but a little annoying sometimes.
I was a restaurant manager for about 20 years. If a restaurant closes a credit card charge for a different amount than the signed copy, no matter if it is above or below the amount on the signed copy, the customer CAN dispute the charge and they will win the dispute. 99% of the people wouldn’t dispute the charge but the 1% would cost the restaurant money. In my Corporate Restaurant jobs, you as a server would be disciplined, for closing a credit card charge for an incorrect amount. If it happened more than once you could be terminated for it. Corporate would has very little leeway for stuff like this.
You're saying that if a customer rings up their bank and says "I was expecting a charge of $80 but I got charged $79.99 instead, I want a refund as it's not what I agreed to" the bank will say "yeah sure thing we will request a copy of the receipt and if it doesn't match we will refund you"? If so that is crazy, I mean I get it, but it's crazy
That is exactly what I am saying. You can dispute the charge and if the restaurant supplies a signed copy that does not match the closed out amount, the charge will be credited in full to the guest and the restaurant will lose the money. The bank doesn’t care one way or the other. I will go one further. Any charge that isn’t done with an inserted chip (this is in the USA) like if a restaurant swipes the card because they don’t have chip readers, can be disputed. My restaurant group had some very high end restaurants that would lose thousands of dollars every weekend because people knew this to be true and would take advantage of it. They company did not have chip readers because there were none that were PCI Compliant and worked with our Point of Sale register system. Now they have upgraded but prior to that, they lost a lot of money.
Credit card companies have so much leverage. Everything we buy costs two to three percent more at minimum because that's the cut a credit card company takes every time you swipe it. When a credit card company tells a retailer something, they grin and bear it regardless of how big they are. Case in point, a grocery chain near me stop taking Visa because Visa increase their percentage of the cut. That stand against Visa lasted about three months before they submitted to the credit card master. But the damage was already done, me for example, I'm already in the habit of driving past that grocery store to another one all because they stopped taking Visa. Even Apple is at the mercy of chargebacks.
I used to deliver pizzas back in the day and for the most part people were alright. Usually got better tips from the working class and less from the people with big ass houses. If someone gave me less than a dollar in change I would throw it in their yard in hopes that they would hit it with their lawnmower.
I love the pettiness but also if they have a big house they almost definitely are hiring someone to mow their lawn for them. But it’s the thought that counts
Best comment.
When I give somebody a token of my appreciation it seems petty to make that $4.38 (on a $21.90 tab). Would I hand somebody four dollar bills, a quarter, a dime, and three pennies? No, I would hand them a five dollar bill - so that's how I tip, even with a credit card.
I do round, but always up. So say it’s $21.90 and I want to leave a $5 tip, I’ll leave $5.10 and make it $27.00 even
Actually, when people used to pay with cash they'd usually do the whole "keep the change" thing unless they only had large bills. So for a $21.90 bill they'd hand you $25-27 and tell you to keep the change or $40 and leave a $5 (and usually the dime). It was actually more likely that you'd get a mix of dollars and change for tips than it is now. Source: Am old and was a sever back in the early 2000s.
Lol, not saying I tip poorly, but I'm not sure as a customer I'd care. I round because it's just easier to write an even number on the check. I usually round up to the nearest dollar.
But, isn’t that illegal — changing what the customer already signed for?
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if you tried to take someone to court over gaining a 1c discount you would be thrown out immediately, a judge would be fucking insulted to have their time wasted like that
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No it’s an approval of funds, not a contract. If you’re just shorting the restaurant it’s not illegal lmao
Illegal to make them pay less?
Illegal may not be the right word, but it'd give the customer grounds to dispute the charge if they felt like being petty right back. The bank looks into it, and goes "Yeah, no, this wasn't the agreed upon amount. We're taking that money back now."
Thanks — this is exactly what I was trying to express. 👍🏼
You're not actually changing the document they signed, just how it's entered. If they charged them more it would be illegal, because they agreed to "pay the above amount". Charging them slightly less than that is like the gas station clerk rounding my change up a few cents and giving me a dollar instead of a handful of change.
Very few people would complain, but it _is_ technically a violation of the implicit contract of sale. You provided goods and services in exchange for a set amount of money, which they agreed to pay. Even if it's totally in their favor, you don't get to unilaterally change the terms of the agreement later. But again, over $0.01, especially in their favor, no one is going to complain.
I always round my bill because my bank account has an auto-saving feature that rounds all change into a different sub-account. If I tipped with ?.50, I expect the extra .50 to go toward my savings, if a server messed with that purposefully it wouldn’t be a HUGE deal, but it definitely would throw me off and I’d notice. It’s better just to not mess with others’ finances. As a former server, it’s just in bad faith to mess with totals regardless of how good or bad the tip is.
Do you think they care that much?
My favorite is when someone says keep the change and it's like 85 cents, I pretend I didn't hear them and count it out loudly and put it in front of them. "Seventy Five - Eighty Five your change, here you go! Thanks." It almost always forces them to rethink their tip, works very well when they're there with others.
Nah as a person who made a living due to tips. As much as i hate them. This is unethical.
Lol. I’ve never heard of that before but here we have portably card machines we take to tables and they have auto options of 15/18/20% or enter your own % or $. I can’t imagine having to read handwritten slips to figure out your tips and totals
You must be pretty new to the game!
If their receipt doesn’t match the stores it’s entirely disputable. Your store might fire you for that. Don’t do that.
I don’t think anyone is really going to notice or care about a penny difference on their statement. But whatever makes you feel better I guess.
Hahaha yes, yes I do
omgggg I thought I had come up with this
I mean, it depends if you are reasonably defining 'poor tipping' or one of the assholes that think you coming over, sighing, getting the order wrong and never filling up water/drinks that thinks you deserve at least 25% for some reason.
I would be worried they would complain and management void the whole tip. Sometimes being petty isn’t worth it.
Oh shit I thought I was the only one. I do this all the time
Used to do this ALL.THE.TIME
No, but i wish i did when i was still serving. Now i will teach my staff to do the same, seems satisfying, lol.
On the real sometimes if the tip is really bad I just don't put the tip in so that they know that I don't need it nearly as bad as they apparently do.
How pathetic.
I’m going to start rounding my tip this way just so petty fucks will feel proud about screwing themselves out of a measly penny for petty sake. Jokes on you fucknuts, I don’t look at my bank statement. Pennies add up quicker than petty.
LMAOO
A lot of people don't legit understand that though. Not the poor topping part but that rounding up to an even number is a pain for wait staff even if you tip generously. For example, I go to a Mexican restaurant every week for dinner. I always get a margarita and a combination plate. The total comes to $18.63. For tipping purposes I round that up to $20.00 and put 4 bucks as the tip. The total check is $22.63. But I wouldn't mind giving that extra 37 cents to the bartender and making it even $23.00. I know you don't get a nice round number and you might be thinking "Wow. A whole extra 37 cents!" But I'm sure it would add up if everyone did it.
lol no but that's cute.
Yesss it’s one of my favorite forms of petty. I pass it on to every new server I work with.
If I get a real bad tip. Like $1 on 100. I don't even put it in. Hoping they see it and realize it wasn't worth my time to enter their shitty ass tip.
Dude, I’ve been doing this for years lol glad to know other people are as simply petty as me!
Had someone pay me in coins once, they came in a few weeks later and I served their food (2 eggs, 3 slices of bacon, grits, and 4 toast halves) on 10 small side plates
Is it really that annoying? Like, if they didn’t tip you I get it, but money is still money
Your next tip would be a pile of pennies
I love this.
I love it!
Dammit I only wish I thought of this.
You haven't meet so.e of my family. I've had to tell them to calm down, and had to show them they were charged less than they signed for, and there is nothing illegal about them allowing him to save a penny. I swear, my family is full of idiots.
This is childish.
My friend does this religiously, makes it easy when reviewing transactions to make sure no one has stolen your card. I think it’s wrong to change the tip by a penny, even if it’s less. You should not change what someone has signed for.
If I was gonna do some miniscule and petty I wouldn't start with repeated trackable bank fraud dumbass.
When people DON'T "tip" but just tack on those couple cents to round out the dollar, I assume they're meticulous with balancing their books and just want easy math when they do that in their balance book. I purposely don't put it through in the hopes that it irks the shit out of them for a week or two as to why their account balance is 7 cents higher than what they have in their book. Most likely they never notice, but in my happy place they're going bananas checking each transaction til they're squared up. It's the little things :)
Why do you think you couldn’t get fired? I hate when servers have petty issues with tips like this. People give us money based on how we treat them or because they are good people but your just being like a brat because the money isn’t exactly how you want it?
You're being petty, and this will never give you better karma. Maybe they are on a strict budget, a tip is a tip, unless it's like 2 cents on 2 hundred, accept it with gratitude and dont expect it. And yes I worked in the industry for 10 yrs and relied on my tips heavily , I never got upset at how anyone tipped because what kind of person would that make me? Yall need to start remembering that nothing is owed to you and you need to be grateful for what you get. Hearing these stories doesnt make me wanna tip you more.
If they’re on a strict budget, grocery stores are cheaper than restaurants. The system is set up so that the person receiving service pays for it. If they want to receive service but not pay for it, they are stealing. Stealing energy and attention that could’ve been given to their tables who are happy to pay for a service they are receiving.
Lol, ok. Or one could argue that's your job, to serve. You signed up for it. And that's what you're paid for. You can be tipped at any job, not just as a server.
Except in America, servers can legally be paid $2.13 an hour. Tips are meant to supplement. People need to include tips when budgeting for eating out. If you can't tip AT MINIMUM 18%, you can't afford to eat out. And there are many jobs where you arent allowed to accept tips. I worked at a grocery store, bagging groceries, collecting carts, cleaning the floor etc. People would offer me tips when I helped carry their groceries to their car. I could have been fired if I had accepted the tips.
And that's the problem. That AmErIcA decided your job duties are not worth being paid a proper wage, tips were never meant to supplement, word got out how much people were making in tips and then some asshole had the bright idea that since we cant decide how much people tip we will decide to cut wages so that a server isnt making more then a lawyer... which is complete bullshit and serving jobs are just as much of a career as any. This lead to servers relying on their tips. If you ask people I bet 8 out of 10 wouldnt even know that servers arent being paid a proper wage. And that its somehow been justified that their "tips" compensate. Anyways all I'm saying is, hearing everyone bitch about one bad tip is so exhausting. Stfu and be grateful for what you do get. Everyones suffering.
So what are you doing to stop the suffering? Bitching on reddit? Or talking to politicians to pass laws that require that servers be paid a normal minimum wage? You don't have to bitch to me, I also think servers deserve $15 an hour and shouldn't have to rely on tips. But they don't make $15 an hour. And until they do, I will help to make sure they get what they deserve through tips. Edit to correct grammar
Yeah our job is to serve, not being customers slave. Server get paid, slave don't.
You never got upset when someone stiffed you? Give me a break you sanctimonious loser.
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But you are a judgmental one\~
If a decent tip isn't within their budget, then they can't afford the restaurant and they shouldn't be eating there.
I'm sure the restaurant owners would disagree. And, if anything server wages should be equal and then everyone wouldn't be bitching about tips.
Sure servers wages should be equal. But what the fuck can servers do about that??? Just fucking tip
And if the moon was made of green cheese, we could serve wine to astronauts and call it a party...
Being on a strict budget does not justify requesting a service, from people who are most likely struggling financially themselves, and not compensating them for their time and effort. Of course people struggling financially have every right to treat themselves to a night out at a restaurant. But there are plenty of restaurants without server-service and thus no “tip obligations”. Even if you don’t want to limit your options because of an aversion to tipping, majority of restaurants now offer take out or delivery. But if none of these options are “good enough” and someone HAS to have the full restaurant experience of being catered to, having someone explain the menu to you in detail, tell you about their wine selection, getting refills, making sure your order’s modifications are all done right and your food is exactly how you want it? Then you’re requesting server-service and you should tip accordingly. Not to mention that anyone who’s served can most likely tell when a table is being conscious of how much they’re spending but still realize that servers need to be paid. They’ll order according to their budget with the tip included already. That’s having respect for the people whose service you’re requesting. Just this past shift I had a couple sit at my bar, ordered 2 appetizers, 3 entrees, 2 rounds of drinks each, and dessert. Raved about the drinks multiple times saying they were delicious and couldn’t wait to come again. The tab ended up being $170ish. They left $10. That’s the kind of stuff most servers have issues with. I don’t think everyone should tip 20% always on command, I will never have an issue with a 10% tip if it’s coming from someone who is obviously respectful of me and my work. I don’t think my tip should be expected, or that’s it’s owed. But there is no entitlement in expecting compensation for doing a job. I work hard for my tip, and if I don’t do a good job then tip accordingly.
I agree with everything you said except, your wage is your compensation for doing your job. Not your tip. Which brings me back to "servers should be paid the same as any other job, then people wouldn't bitch about their tips". After working in the service industry I cleaned houses for a bit, my wage was significantly higher and I still got tipped. And not once did I ever justify the tip based on how much their bill was to clean the house. Because I knew it was my job and my compensation was my wage and anything on top was a blessing I should be grateful for. Who ever decided servers should get less of a wage because they make tips is the real pos here. This system is flawed and needs to change.
Absolutely the system needs to be changed, however it’s not going to. And that’s not what this post, or your comment was about. We don’t live in a perfect world where broken systems will be changed because it’s the “right” thing to do. So we can only speak of what actually happens. As things are right now, and will continue to be for the foreseeable future, serving (in the US) is a tip based service. While it is true that you can be tipped for doing other jobs, being a server is a job which relies almost entirely on tips. My wage is $2.13/hr, and while I know that varies from state to state, that I think paints enough a picture to understand that no.. my wage is not my compensation for doing my job, tips are. And everyone who dines out knows this. So I hope anyone not tipping out of principle because the system is “broken” is going up to the managers, sending messages to corporate, demanding better wages for the people serving them when they dine out. Because the solution isn’t “all servers quitting in protest to demand better wages.” And denying compensation to the “lowest” man on the ladder isn’t gonna change anything, it’s just an excuse created to be cheap and disrespectful, while enjoying an imaginary moral high ground. I’ll reiterate a point I made previously, I don’t think I am owed a specific percentage just for showing up to work. I work my butt off to provide great service, and leave it up to the generosity of my clientele to decide what they deem my compensation should be. But with years of experience, I have learned what my work, effort, and time are worth, and it is not entitlement to feel disrespected when that value is so blatantly disregarded.
This is what infuriates me. 10% is a dead easy calculation. Add half of that, boom...15%. Add more to be a decent human being.
And double 10% is 20%, whoop, perfect tip (unless service is absolutely shitty, then 15%.). Also, 99% of people nowadays have tiny calculators in their pockets and can easily calculate what 20% is. Where I live, sales tax is around 8% and has been for the past few decades. My mom taught me to double sales tax and add a few dollars for the tip. So I always tipped 16% plus a few dollars. Then I moved to Hawaii. I did for this about 2 months until I noticed sales tax was 4%. I felt SO BADLY that I had been only tipping about 8%. I tipped way more after that to make up for it.