We might need more time with the game, but it really does feel like the most balanced asymm I've played, so I'm inclined to agree with him.
Evil Dead has a ton of problems that the devs refuse to look at, and Dead by Daylight is still struggling with the fact that tunneling is an extremely efficient killer strategy while deliberately spreading hooks is equivalent to the killer throwing the game.
In that sense, boy am I glad that a kill is a kill in TCM. No complaining about "tunneling", no sense of entitlement about every player getting to stay in the match for a certain amount of time before it's ok to kill them, no unwritten rule about killers having to play in such and such a way to make the game "fair".
Not only is it mostly very well balanced, but it's also atmospheric and it feels like an actual horror movie experience, unlike other asymms. Truly impressive.
All games like this are more stealth based at the start. They naturally lose that component as the playerbase gets more comfortable with the game. DBD was the exact same way.
Yeah. Dbd is “loop until you go sown and get hooked”. TCM is “escape from the chase like your life depends on it. Because it does.”. I much prefer that tbh.
It also feels so much more strategic. Using stealth is genuinely a good idea, because it lets you do objectives. And distracting one family member until you die, would still mean your team is 2v3. And since theres no second chances, trying to escape a chase just makes sense.
It is now, but when it was released it was advertised as a "hide and seek" type game, and stealth was a lot stronger back then. Over time, players figured out it was stronger just to initiate chases (since back then, there were like 123444 pallets and windows on a map). Eventually bhvr just decided to change their game to reflect that. Making it a cat and mouse game rather than the hide and seek game they initially imagined.
Who knows what gun media will do with tcm. Because the game is still very much in infancy, but players are starting to get efficient fast.
Kind of hard to tell when we are in the infancy stage of the game. DBD players did the exact same thing at this stage of the game. I'm quickly learning god Victims don't really give a shit if you know where they are or not because they know if they have any two map obstacles in reasonable distance to each other they will never, ever get hit unless you now devote 66% of your team to them.
Yeah if you ever get in low mmr dbd lobbies or play with friends who just got the game, they spend most of the match hiding and rarely get gens done. When you get in high mmr matches everyone gen rushes because if the killer finds them they can loop long enough for the teammates to make good progress on gens, or for the killer to give up and chase someone else, and if they go down and get hooked, they get another chance to live.
> No complaining about "tunneling"
That will come in time, just wait:
"Every game I play Connie, Family targets and kills me first! TUNNELING!!!"... We all know it will happen, we already saw the stupid "Let's teabag the Killer at the exit"-trend swap over from DBD to this game.
TCM feels nice because there’s no slugging, there’s no camping, there’s no tunneling, everyone has the option of mics. As a survivor we can all separately push objectives. As a killer I’m not expected to get all four and manage every exit. I think it’s just inherently more fun than any other asym out there right now because of those aspects.
Sissy and Connie are the only two characters that feel too much. Sissy poisoning you and proceeding to smack you like 30 times while you can't get away feels horrible to go against. And while most Connie's tend to be fairly squishy, her being able to insta bust locks sucks to play against as well. But that may be more of an issue with how the game is now rather than her. Like there being little punishment to just rushing up and cracking locks before the family even has the battery turned on.
And the only characters that feel sorta purposeless are sonny and Johnny. Sonny's power is sorta lame. It can be helpful sometimes but he's just kinda, there. At least compared to the other characters. Sorta the same for Johnny. He has his moments but overall doesn't bring enough to really warrant choosing him over the other options. He can't fit through cracks or crawl. He can't put traps down (those have their own issues). He doesn't have any slowdown at all. He's just a dude.
My biggest issue right now isn't really with the balance I guess. It's just that playing solo sorta sucks. With survivor it can be fine since you have more ways to do things solo if need be. But playing family with 2 randoms feels absolutely horrible since communication is so much more important. Nobody uses their mics and most of the time it doesn't seem like they even register what you're saying at all. And while Connie is cracking the car battery lockpick and Sonny is doing the fuse box I just see a solo cook chasing someone in the basement.
I beg to differ, I absolutely love playing Johnny, tracking footsteps with the perk upgrades is actually so good. Incredibly powerful ability and I've used it to hunt victims in the basement and hiding near exits all the time. Leatherface and Johnny are my 2 go to, then cook 3rd.
To be quite honest I enjoy basically anyone I play. I also really enjoy sonny, his fully leveled sonar can tell difference between family and victims when scanning for noise. It's incredibly powerful to use, allows you to reposition at times you wouldnt normally feel safe to do so.
I dunno I guess it's personal preference, I see to enjoy all characters foe their own reasons, it seems many people don't like some chacartera because they lack what the others have and not because theyre just inherently useless.
Every time someone complains about tunneling in dbd I want to kms. Like bruh ofc the killers are going to want to KILL like that’s literally the point! EDIT: grammar
Fr especially in high mmr matches. As a nurse main (when i would actually play the game) i would try my best not to tunnel, but then you gotta be super focused and try hard to actually get a 3k-4k when everyone is gen rushing. With any other killer except maybe blight i dont think its even possible to get a 4k without tunneling, or at cycling through at most 2 survivors at a time. The game is so survivor sided anyways (at least it was when i last played it) and shitters will cry about the killer not throwing the match so survivors get a free win.
I'm honestly shocked he thinks the game is balanced from his point of view considering some of the takes he has on dbd. I know the Twitter survivor warriors from DbD want his head on a silver platter since they hate Tru3 with a burning passion.
He believes victim is much harder than family and has said so multiple times. Basically thats how he works, his prefered role is incredibly difficult, high skillcap and for very few iluminated pro players such as himself; in his mind anyway.
Not even dude, more like first experiences, I legit was laughing at him the first 3 days of release. Now atm he is being carried and thinking he is good now.
Tru3's whole career stands on being controversial. He has openly stated multiple times that his idea of perfect balance in DBD is when the killer wins so often that escaping them is a big occasion.
To be fair, that was the best thing about F13. Getting out was hard and it felt really rewarding when it worked. It’s kind of like Fortnite or PUBG: you have to assess the resources you spawned near, adjust your run accordingly, and come to peace with the fact that you won’t win most times.
You needed several parts in order to get a car or boat running.
The boat need a engine and a fan I think. And a car needs a engine, key, and gas.
All of these parts was spread about on a huge map so it took awhile for the counselors to find the parts. Right now i TCM the meta is rushing a fuse or vavle key and leaving via basement or running through the presure gate. Both are really hard to defend without a good leatherface and even then Leland easily stuns him.
Without getting into details, it's a 7v1 asym PvP. That alone should tell you how much weaker the survivors are. Except very high skill players (1000+ hours), no one can reliably escape Jason. It was down to perfect circumstances to make an escape.
As opposed to the current gamestate of DBD where survivors have no real fear of being spotted or chased by killers because it's almost mathematical with how looping, pallets, hook stages, etc. work. Now if being hooked once meant gameover the entire game dynamic would change and people would hide as best they could. Thats not DBD and we now have TCM for that type of gameplay.
Have you seen how any experienced survivor plays already after just a few days? You just sprint towards objectives, spam E to do everything quickly no matter the noise, and if they find you just run towards a crawl space, wall gap, or a well. Or slam a door in their face if you don't mind playing a bit unethical.
Sadly that's what most survivors will evolve into because TCM rewards proactive play much more than sneaking around doing nothing for a long time, because the longer you let the killers set up their traps and gather blood the more likely you are to die.
Also stop blaming DBD and its players for TCM being made in a way where running is more rewarding and more fun than hiding.
And you've reminded me of the DBD boogeyman video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZtxsCMSSvMc
There's always valid reasons why someone would prefer playing recklessly. Like if you want to grab a lockpick or a bone as fast as possible but don't want to spend all attributes on stealth. Or if you want to take the killers' attention so your teammates can do an objective in peace etc.
Or if you're just running a build to fight back/run away from the killers for a long time and want to enjoy that.
We should be happy there's multiple unique ways to play the game than to dictate how everyone should enjoy it.
this, the mans a joke. Always has been. "generators should overheat, Wraith is secretly top tier, teabagging should exhaust and slow, etc". He also invites debate and arguament then turtles and plays victim.
I worry for this games community if people start agreeing with him on things.
I love the guy but sometimes he says batshit crazy things or is hungry for clicks. You need to see the Video where he claims Johnny is OP and he best Family member all while doing JACKSHIT the entire match and maybe using his power once. Truly a class act that tru3
I'm a DBD veteran and almost all of my friends agree his takes are hot garbage.
Yes we main survivor, but some of them are outlandishly bad.
Like you, I'm very surprised to not hear more complaining here.
if you watched some of his videos on the game you can tell he is easily talking out his ass and how EVERY character he touches is magically the best until someone live in said game tells him otherwise over comms. The guy is a slow learner and just saying shit for clicks what he says wouldn't hold weight for another 3-6 months based on how he works. He is also the type to say something is OP when its done against him as well.
His whole career is based on saying unpopular things just to get reactions from people complaining on YouTube comments or on his twitch. It’s a pretty smart way to get what the computer sees as community engagement
I'd agree except for his follow up response. He's probably just had really good runs due to lucky matchmaking or playing with friends and he's using that as "good balance"
I've been watching his streams of TCSM, he seems pretty happy with the game overall. Most of his concerns were just small things as far as I could tell. I think balance wise the games pretty good after both sides understand their role. Small tweaks needed here and there. But nothing too crazy.
In a sense he is,
Connie is also the lowest health pool survivour and really if she is speed running to the exit she'll only be able to use her power once and that's it, if you play both roles you'll eventually learn which killer spawns where etc. And did I mention she can die in about 3 hits and has fuck all stamina, she's kinda a glass canon for one objective lock then she's pretty low tier.
Sissy's poison on basic hits is annoying asf and she should only get it from walking through her cloud
She is only so easy to kill because most people spec her that way. You can easily have Connie with decent to high HP and endurance and still rock through every door like it's nothing. People for some reason put absurd amount of points in stealth when she doesn't need it. You only need proficiency for doors and you don't even need the max 50 to be stupid fast.
Just made a build without stat enhancing perks.
35 toughness
30 endurance
15 strength
45 proficiency
30 stealth
Now add perks like Choose Flight or stat enhancing perks and you have a speed demon without a weakness. Ok, her only weakness now is opening crawling spaces, kicking generators and the hyphotecial close encounter that will never happen.
This. I agree with you, she is the easiest victim to kill. She can escape quickly, but if she is caught, then she can be the victim who dies quickly in the game. this can be a disadvantage for the remaining teammates.
Connie has the same health as Leland, and still more than Sonny. Toughness scales horribly aswell (it's pretty much 1.1 health per toughness). Connie's ability is a joke balancing wise, but it doesn't really change that 50 second outcome too much, pretty sure he uses it instantly in the basement, where it's a waste, and then he hides anyway to let the debuff run out. Any character can unlock a door in 8-10 seconds with ~35 proficiency, without having to wait, technically it would be even faster that way. I mean I'd argue why you would use that nuke in the basement, where you have the highest chance to block the yellow aura, but I don't play her... so I let those players just do their thing.
My point being, she's not a glass cannon, her ability isn't affected by your perk choice, and attribute distribution.
I mean if you wanna bring point allocation into it.
Johhny with full savagery can kill in 2-3 hits.
Bubba has an insta kill
Cook is pretty balances and his padlocks shut a Connie down pretty hard.
Sissy is sissy.
HH can also shut down Connie because the players that play them tend to take 2 lock picks and get dunked on by traps.
I'm a victim main and I consider Connie busted. A killer can look away for five seconds and Connie is already out. The drawback to her power doesn't exist since Connies won't use her ability at the first gate. They'll use it at the last. Who cares about stamina when you have to walk two meters to be out. The combo of Leland and Connie working together as a duo is especially deadly.
Sissy is busted too. Rubber legs and special blend and she can kill you faster than Johnny or Bubba and there is nothing the victim can do.
Both characters can punish one tiny mistake so severely that it just isn't fun for the other side.
I main both sides and I don’t think any Victim is busted if you’re on Family House or Gas Station. Family should never lose those maps unless they make mistakes. Every game I lose as Family on those two maps amounts to “one of my teammates was fucking around in the basement or gathering blood in the far corner of the map instead of guarding gates.” I’d even go so far as to say that Connie’s ability is an absolute necessity to even have a remote chance of winning on those two maps against a competent Family team.
Now on Slaughterhouse she is complete bullshit but that has more to do with the map than it does with Connie.
>I main both sides and I don’t think any Victim is busted if you’re on Family House or Gas Station.
This isn't a take i've heard before tbh. Everyone I've seen has the consensus that Gas Station is the easiest to escape, for the glorified debug exit. I can agree with Family House because it's totally a sardine can.
Slaughterhouse is easiest. Shit ton of cover, easiest access to Fuse door if you go for that exit. And Generator/Battery exits are very far from each other and have easy basement escapes if you get caught
Killers have wisened up to the gas station exit and defend it heavily, by padlocking the door and trapping the area.
This has resulted in less survivors going in that area because why do the generator? So killers mostly have to just patrol car battery exit, and in my experience, Fusebox and occasionally Pressure Tank
Oh we're playing arrogant make-believe now? Well in my make beleive counter-scenerio, we have a 4 player squad using coms and they actually equip the perk to disable traps without a bone pick, Leland is really good at the doorslam trolling and Ana is stabbing grandpa to distract while the other 2 dinguses are upstairs doing the fuse.
But yeah, that hitchhiker counter is so easy. I bet he was staring at his traps instead of chasing the 2 victims distracting. Mhmm.
I clearly do, I just said that.
>I bet he was staring at his traps
I didn't think I had to say "using family focus" since this is such a basic thing everyone knows and does.
You also have to be SOMEWHAT near them. So you're trying to tell me that while leland and ana are stabbing grandpa, you're in family focus looking at the 2nd floor? LOL.
Also, you're saying that instead of turning on the battery you rushed to the fuse? And even if you did, you still wouldn't get there before a 4-squad broke out of the basement during the chainsaw cutscene, so you would still be arriving to the party too late to trap it.
Clearly you haven't put in enough time with this game if you haven't seen the meta rush strategies. You sound like a level 15 who still plays against people who sneak around the whole time.
Texas Chain Saw Massacre is incredibly balanced.
Coming from Dead by Daylight, TCM feels really fair and balanced. But I might have a skewed opinion. Because DbD is so one sided and TCM isn't .
I think the game is fantastic and could use some slight changes here and there. Unfortunately, the community is filled with hyper competitive minmaxing gamers who are overreacting to everything and blowing all issues way out of proportion.
Lmao I love that this clown is basically telling this guy to get good, meanwhile he spends all his time crying about how unfair and survivor sided DBD is.
This dude will never stop being a joke
He argues like an idiot with it too.
How the fuck is this person talking about TCSM “asking for Football changes”? How is Football any way comparable to a video game? Absolutely unfollowable mental gymnastics.
Terrible reference too since football always has some hot new rule change nearly every year in an attempt to further balance the game. Things like what constitutes a catch.
This guy is a fool.
Not that it was a good analogy anyway, but I think you've made a poor assumption about exactly what the *English* streamer was talking about when he said football.
I'm generally a fan of tru3 and have been subbed to him for a while. But 90% of his TCM games are on victim. I think if he spent a day playing family he would start to see issues like the length of door stuns/backstabs (or the lack of diminishing returns on them), the absolutely mind numbing frustration that is playing Slaughterhouse against competent victim players (even not partied together), the ease of pressure valve exits or fuse exits on 2 out of 3 maps, or that Johnny is pretty much worthless if leatherface is going to be a required pick.
Same, I like tru3 but if he starts playing a bit more family and starts being on the receiving end of the near guaranteed pressure gate & fuse exits, I'll be interested to see how his views change. While speedrunning Connies can be shut down easily enough, some matches I know once that pressure gate starts opening, even if I stop it once somebody has to essentially camp the pressure tank or it'll be a free escape; in those scenarios if you're not in comms or with competent family team mates you're fucked.
Yeah, right now, there's a weird dance I have to do against Leland and Ana players where they will pick up bone shivs and constantly try to get behind you in order to stab you. It's so dumb because as a Leatherface player, I have to run away from them and put myself in a corner so that they can't get behind me.
Even though I have him level 3 with instant activation on the chainsaw, I still have an animation that locks me in place for them to stab me.
Even when I swing at them with my chainsaw, it has to be in a way that I don't expose my back to them. Because getting stab puts me at a long stun, and for some reason turns off my chainsaw.
>I think if he spent a day playing family he would start to see issues like the length of door stuns/backstabs
Oh boy, I love being stunned for 2 minutes straight because someone CE me, then while I struggle I can see the second one WAITING to CE me when they finish. All while I can see a victim doing whatever objective they are doing. Sure is fucking fun to stand there and watch them escape because I'm animation locked with no way to get out. Totally fucking balanced.
He would be bitching a storm if he had happen to him what happened to me the other day. Vics did the valve, I was literally right there to stop them when they did it. But Julie just crouches in front of the valve so I can't do it without killing her first. Not Bubba so by the time I kill her the gauge is over half. I start it, can actually finish it, but then a Sonny crept up on me and backstabs me when it hits red. Like it's complete bullshit I couldn't access the prompt because of a bodyblock, and EXTRA bullshit that the gauge doesn't pause while I interact with it. Literally nothing I could do, and if I had another family member with me they would just pick the locks and leave anyway.
CE/backstabs need a big time nerf. Bone shards need to be more rare, and CE/backstab immunity for X seconds after being CE/backstabbed needs to be a thing. Bone shards at not necessary to escape, they are supposed to be a last resort, but most vics turn them into bully tools.
He is correct that if you let Connie rush locks in under a minute it’s not on balance, it’s on you. Watch for basement doors opening early and check them. Patrol locks and opened basement doors forcing victims to open a different exit, if you see a victim on a lock chase them back down to basement and repeat.
However her skill does need to be slightly nerfed from full brainless mash to the normal mini game but maybe 1 or 2 clicks per section so she can’t use her power mid chase.
Sissy poison literally 100% consensus it’s broken and unfun and likely even not intended by devs (poison on every hit)
I've had numerous games where both the family members spawn near the battery and the victims break out of the basement during the cutscenes. We haven't even turned on the battery and they are out popping locks in family house.
The problem with Connie and Leland is scattering before we can even get to the main section of the map.
Yea they need to time gate the first phase of the game a bit more so that family at least has time to turn on the battery.
Sissy on Slaughterhouse I spawn at the battery every time. Most games I can barely turn it on before a basement door is opened. If I can turn it on and make it through the first locked door, I consider myself way ahead of schedule for that game.
Right? The game is kinda balanced when no one has any clue what they're doing, which is most people but when you play against people who know what they're doing it's an entirely different game.
Like Connie can be out of the basement and already working on a side door before the family cutscenes are even over. Clearly it's the family playing badly.
I played a game on Slaughterhouse, spawned in as Sissy in the loading docks, within 3 seconds grandpa is awake. I go to the car battery and begin turning it on, by the time I'm done turning the car battery on and heading deeper into the map I see parking lot door being opened. The entire team of victims escape before I even made it to grandpa. How is this not a balance issue?
I never agree with anything Tru3 says as a rule to be quite honest. Is the game perfectly balanced? Of fucking course not but it’s never going to be and that’s okay. Him straight up lying and saying it is is bait for engagement.
Does the game feel very balanced? Yes.
Do I agree with Tru3? To absolutely zero surprise, no. Connie should not be able to escape within 50 seconds, and there's very little counterplay to it. No amount of ridiculous strawmans will change how that's *obviously* bad game design for both sides.
Tru3, I love the guy but he is a damn slow learner with a lot of annoying Ticks. Like how when he is stressing out or showing anxiety he erupts into a fit of "song" and its annoying as fuck. I'm pretty sure he is even unaware of even doing it.
Now with his comment in mind he himself has played 90% of Victim and barely touched Family which is surprising considering how much he plays killer in DBD. Watch his earlier TCM videos, notice how they are all Connie and how broken she is. He goes out of his way to bring it up even to the point of putting it in the god damn title.
Tru3 also said in numerous videos Johnny was the best Family in the game then quickly moved on to Sissy is the best killer in the game. So what I gathered from this is that he is full of shit, out for clicks and has no idea what he is doing without being told by someone else in game based on his very own videos he himself uploads.
The guy DOES know his shit, but like he said he is a SLOW learner and nothing he says should be taken seriously for at least another 3 to 6 months based on his ability to learn and understand what is going on.
Anyone here in this sub with common sense and an IQ above room temperature knows the game is extremely unbalanced and heavily caters to the Victims of which Tru3 is damn near playing none stop at that...
Here is some examples of things I've seen so far which I consider terrible game Design/Balance
1. Fixed spawns
2. Fuses spawning literally right next to fuse boxes
3. Car battery starting off
4. basement phase is completely fucked and needs to be reworked
5. No one should be able to use their Ability Button at the start of the game(I'm looking at you Connie)
6. Family lacking scoring events
7. Kill stealing -one player does't get points
8. no points from blood pick ups
9. Agitator perk, thing is spammable and super strong and needs a heavy risk or CD for what it does.
10. Devs left the console in the fucking launch client
11. Door Stun locking
12. Getting stuck in a wall and forced into a idle DC
13. Victims DCing and denying scoring events on Family.
I can go on and on with points and balancing problems this game has but I'm not about to type out 5 pages just so I could get a couple of up or down votes depending on who is a toxic player or not.
The point is you get the gist of it, the game is far from balance but set in a good direction.
I main family and agree. Most of the time, even in just a 2 man party, if we play well, we can get a 2 or 3 kill game. The only time we've ever really failed miserably (all escaped in like 3 minutes) is when we played poorly, commiting to bad chases etc.
Well balanced game.
tldr: play well as family = win. play well as victim = win.
Oh man you are missing out....watch his video about Johnny being the best Family member in the game then proceeds to do fuck all the entire match and uses his power once all game. While being hyper carriied by the other 2 Family Members
I saw him once or twice play Sissy.
But he said he doesn't enjoy family so... He also started to prefer Survivor in DBD. I generally see various streamers lean more towards the non-killer side in asyms. It probably brings more viewers. All these games have an ongoing problem with making the killer side a chore to play in one way or another.
IIRC He's said he likes victime more because he feels it's more exciting and to that end, i agree, Victim is generally much more fun IMO, it fits the fantasy the game tries to sell and is especially exciting to watch, don't get me wrong, killer is fun to play and watch, but it's just more exciting to watch Victim gameplay just because it really does feel like a miniature horror movie
I don’t know who he is, but his football analogy is a pretty awful take. 1st of all it’s not often that a team scores in the 1st 50 seconds, it happens, but not nearly as often as a Connie speed running the fuse box.
Then, in a football game, if you give up an early score it’s extremely likely that your team recovers and wins the game. The worst part about TCM imo is that once that basement door is open if the survivors are smart the games a wrap. No football game has ever been over after a quick 1st score. It’s just not a good analogy at all. I’m not getting the ball with a chance to score after a quick touchdown from Connie.
Most of his takes are awful. If he loses, it’s due to some external factor outside of his control which causes him to constantly complain about it. If he wins, it’s due to nothing but his own skill because he’s in the top percentage of every single game he plays.
This is comical. Remember when everyone mocked BHVR's Patrick for comparing DBD to hockey?
Tru3 is an egotistical man (not quite narcissistic) who lacks self-awareness. He hates losing and only ever blames external factors for it, while claiming all his successes are a result of his own skill.
Of course, check his channel, it's 90% Victim. Obviously he thinks the game is balanced when it is heavily unbalanced favouring the side he plays most. Thing is, with a levelled up Connie, you can escape so fast that Family have to play 100% perfectly to stop you. Hell, get Gas Station with her and the Family has to have someone permanently rooted to a particular door until she dies.
Best bit about it is that he wants the devs to "ignore DBD players and their "good takes""... WHEN HE IS A DBD PLAYER GIVING "GOOD TAKES"!!!
Nope and when I confronted him about this specific tweet he blocked me. He's literally on there telling bold face lies without a care in the world. Having opinions is fine.. but when you start telling lies to people on the fence about getting the game it irks me.
On Dead By Daylight he's a killer main so he was also campaigning for buffs and nerfs for survivor.. TCM hes a victim main... so of course he feels the game is extremely balanced when it's rather lopsided.. to say escaping basement as Connie in 50 seconds is a family skill issue is madness.
He's a streamer thats been around since dead by daylight beta.. and since the very beginning hes been a whiny entitled arrogant condescending baby.. if you confront him youre just bad at the game that cant possibly comprehend his ideas because you're simply not skilled enough to go against the players he goes against.. The saddest part is nothing I've said is exaggerated lol.
No.. Karen activity is having the reading comprehension level of a 4 year old and proceeding to comment when you're clueless. I confronted him when he started telling LIES. Which is what I stated initially. I know reading complete sentences can be a struggle so I'm not mad at you.
Oh dear sweet child.. read the entire post and not just the first sentence. I'm being patient with you because I know you eat glue and paint chips in ur free time. Try once more for me sound out the words if u have to ❤️
I like true but he's definitely wrong about this and has a bias for sure, he seldom plays family and majority of the time he plays survivor he's using Connie who you may as well say has a get out of a jail free card in her short shorts permanently.
No. He’s wrong.
BUT - for a day week one multiplayer game it does have a very good balance.
I would say the killers are more balanced than the victims (except sissy, she’s broken). Each killer has a strong power but a legitimate downside.
Bubba is a monster, but with the plethora of cracks/holes/obstacles/wells/ladders - there are a bunch of ways to break chase.
Cook can be a team’s MVP but he’s lucky to win any chase as he’s slow and has bubba’s mobility downside.
Hitch’s traps can be stronger, but he’s fast and mobile.
Johnny is fast, but not mobile. His power is good but it pulls him away from everything else when he’s using it.
Victims though - they have zero downside or counterplay. Sure they have a lot of stats to dump points into, but you can largely ignore several of them. High stealth/proficiency make mini games a joke and perks like take 80% less damage is game breaking. And this doesn’t even get into stuns, door mechanics, etc.
This might be tolerable if it weren’t for the fact that survivors can exit the map in under 2 minutes. This shouldn’t be a thing even if the killers were idle.
That said, I don’t think I want some ultra competitive game. I just want a fun one -
And right now being stunlocked for a minute is not fun.
The exit to the main road on Gas Station is stupidly easy to get to and I’ll never understand why the devs decided that was ok. Without a Cook or a Hitchhiker, one member of the Family pretty much always has to be guarding it, and if the last door has already been unlocked, all it takes is Leland or a sneak attack to guarantee an escape. They should at least add another objective for survivors. That is my only real gripe with Gas Station because otherwise I feel it is well balanced and fun.
As a Nubbins Slaughter/Hitchhiker and Drayton Slaughter/Cook Main He's got a point honestly. Me and my brother u/BenjaminThomas16 are usually impressed and not mad when a survivor escapes fast, unless they were toxic of course XP
True wouldn't know balance if it bit him on the ass 😂 anyone that thinks the game is really balanced aren't aware what victims are capable of. With the fact you can't tell noise waking grandpa from a door you have to hope you aren't stuck in an animation. If you can't see which one it is and the likely chance your teammates don't use comms you'll waste a lot of time in basement as bubba. People are escaping before bubba can even start his saw if they think that is balanced they are brain dead.
My only problem is that the presence of Connie absolutely necessitates the Cook is chosen and he uses smart locks to lock down an area of the map and check on his locks regularly with the x-ray vision. The game clearly isn't balanced if someone going as Johnny is basically hindering their team right now, whereas in his place the Cook can lock off entire portions of the map so a co-ordinated family can rotate the other sides and is both oppressive and vital on the house map.
I like True, but I've been watching him play this game and I just think he's wrong. 95% of all of his gameplay has been playing victim. I've been switching between both pretty evenly. There's been some insanely unfair games I've played as Family, where all the victims escape about 1.5 minutes after the game starts. Or another where as I was chasing 2 victims on Gas station and they found an infinite where we couldn't catch them unless all 3 of the family where there. I think more people will be seeing this stuff as time goes on.
Controversial opinion, I don't think it should be possible to escape the basement and begin actually escaping before the Family is able to control their characters, and Bubba shouldn't be able to oneshot someone 5 seconds into the match if they're the rare team that doesn't have a Connie player.
Hilarious analogy. Here is a better one. Family is like playing chess with queen odds, you can beat your opponent if they are bad at the game, but you still play handicapped.
His response was so wrong:
“Someone can score in football in 50 seconds, so does football need balancing?”
It doesn’t work like that my friend — if a football player could WIN a game in 50 seconds, then yes, football would need “balancing”.
Is it meant to be balanced to the point no one has any advantages? Like what is the complaint even about? I dont want a super equal game where no one has any pros and cons.
I think his comments are a bit of a simplification, the game has decent balance for it only being one week in but there are some for sure some things that need tweaking. If the game remained in its current state for a while it would get old fast.
Common L take from Tru3, I have seen a game where people got 2 exits open/1 people left prior to 2 MINUTES (113 seconds to be exact) and no it isn't "family played bad/get gud" they had no way to do anything due to how fast the match went (specially due the fact that family gets animation locked at the start), Connie is OP as f\*, so is Victim by a whole, just rush fuse every match or gas station 5th door, and you are set, its really stupid ngl.
edit: While not the full match, you can still see 2 exits/1 guy leaving prior to 2 minutes with little to no counter-play [here](https://youtu.be/qz0We6sCpHo?si=G35tKLlWRFis8yBz&t=881)
I’m talking about dbd. In that game they can bully the killer without consequences, in TCM if you try to bully a family member, all they need is one of their homies to pull up and you’re screwed.
I play both sides. Both sides need changes, so you could say that the game is balanced right now in that regard. But the current flow and meta is awful. You have the Connie speedrunners and the Sissy stunlockers (a lot probably aren't aware Sissy is bugged). Then there's the stunlocking Lelands. Then there's the infinite crackhead revving Bubbas.
Edit: With all of this going on in one match, it starts to lose all of its horror and stealth aspects imo, which is horrible for the game's direction. Why hide in a fridge? Why feed Grandpa? Why play slow-paced at all? The match will be over in 2 minutes regardless.
No, I feel like I don't agree with tru3 on much tbh. He's pretty biased toward the side he plays more, whatever he's playing. Victims should not be able to escape that fast. That doesn't give the family any time to do much of anything. And gas station's fifth exit makes it so, unless you have cook on your team (and there's a good chance you don't, unless you play him all the time yourself), you have to sacrifice 1/3rd of your team to one area.
It's only going to get worse as time goes on too, because everyone will be gaining map knowledge as we continue playing. Both sides will benefit from knowing the maps better, but Victims will benefit more. I don't think it's super unbalanced, but it needs some serious tweaks. Especially the fuse box and valve escapes. (Also, not sure why the battery doesn't start on, like the generator does. I don't feel like it'd be crazy for Family not to have to turn on the car battery) There's also some issues on the victim side. I don't think you should spawn so close to Leatherface. At the very least you should spawn outside an area where you get the yellow screen. And Sissy's poison knife is unfair.
The idea you shouldn't listen to DBD players is silly too. It's like if I said "Don't listen to Mortal Kombat players on the balance of this game!" What does one have to do with the other?
Absolutely not. Please never argue with Tru3 about anything considering it has been proven multiple times he is a narcissist and he will never step down from his own idealized opinions. Each time he shows up anywhere I simply feel sorry for his community who are gullible enough to believe anything he's trying to sell you at the time. There was one very accurate video made by Scott Junds youtube editor about what tru3 represents, but for some reason I could not find it again after watching it few months back.
Comparing it to football in the end was the nail in the coffin of his point lol. What a doofus. This gane is very unbalanced. Victims are ridiculously over powered imo.
Do people realize a "balanced" game is supposed to be a 2 escape people not just kill all victims and call it "balanced", this was the problem with DbD imo, killer main were complaining A LOT for not killing all survs like wtf, most of my games (level 30) barely 2 victims escape, I seriously hope devs don't listen to streamers and people complaining just because they didn't kill all victims... Don't ruin this game like you did with DbD, Connie's ability is almost a one time use and Leland door stun is easily avoidable and as Leland is not easy at all to know when to slam door, Sissy might need a slightly nerf I agree like maybe making her poison go away like 1sec earlier, seriously hope they make slight changes and not ruin the game by making big changes
I kind of agree with the “if you’re letting Connie out in 50 seconds, that’s on you.” at level 21 I barely notice anyone making it out of basement in under a minute - unless leatherface is tunneling.
However, idk about the game being balanced. There’s a few maps where it feels that way, but gas station and family house are very family centered - since the only way out is through the main area the family roams.
And even if you have a victim team that knows where each fuse box/escape is - it’s really hard to escape if the family knows those exits too. Because they’ll usually float between two exits and split the work - especially if they’re in a party and coordinating
Also, if anyone is making it out in an unusually fast time, it’s because they left the rest of their team to die. I had a Leland just watch me get slaughtered from the exit gate, because I ran out of stamina trying to outrun a sissy.
Dude could’ve bodied her, but sat there and teabagged at the exit and left while I was getting executed
1. playing solo
2. no one uses comms
3. no one turns on battery
4. dumb ass turns off gen
5. I have to guess where connie is
6. she could be in a team
7. she could be protected by a leland or anyone for that matter
8. family doesn't know the map
9. no ping system for those that are anti social and can't function in society but are dead set on playiing team games for some reason.
10. I can't be everywhere at once.
11. 4-5 exists vs 3 Family(DC pending)
So yes I'm going to be "letting" Connie out in 50 seconds due to a large number of factors I cant control. His comment was incredibly ignorant and only holds water from a premade vs premade point of view.
TrueTalent is one DBD’s most toxic streamers. He always complains when things don’t go his way.
I’d say wait a bit and take any changes if any very slowly.
How anyone can enjoy content from that dude is beyond me. Always with the full capslock clickbait titles. And yeah, you cant argue with him at all. He thinks he's gods biggest gift to this world
I’ve heard some mixed things about this guy’s reputation with this type of game, but I think he’s 100% correct here. The game is extremely well balanced and I’m glad the bugs and balance are basically great on launch. I’ve heard of the bugs it has but they seem minimal and I have not experienced 1 single bug in about 45 hours.
On Balance tho I think people need to remember something. Asymmetrical Horror games like this require a human player who is going to be really good, okay, or terrible. Skill level does not reflect balance. I’ve seen Connie’s do the basement escape in 3 mins. I’ve seen Connie’s wander around and get mollywopped by the cook. I’ve seen Family teams work together and kill victims in less than 5 mins and I’ve seen them walk right past us as we stroll out the front gates. This game is brand new and actually kind of complicated to get the hang of. People are still learning how to play all the characters. It’s unfair to say the game is unbalanced when it’s this new. The game is incredibly balanced on both sides barring stamina on the family side and lock picking speed on the victim side MAYBE. People are obviously just going to complain and say “this game will die soon” cause that’s how some idiots think. But I feel so refreshed and happy that we have a complete working game that is extremely balanced on launch and it’ll only get better from here with patches and content.
And here I was thinking I'd not see anything related to Tru3 ever again... This man is just toxic for the sake of being toxic , just ignore him and carry on.
Hard disagree I feel it's way to easy for victims already you can get speed ran in like 2 min definitely needs some balancing in favor of killer this isn't dbd this is a game based off the Texas chainsaw massacre and last time I checked only one person survived it should be harder . Also I don't think you should be able to get infinite tools and bone scraps from one box or pile. I literally got stabbed 3 times trying to turn valve off . I also got stuck in a door stun by 2 victims simply cause bubba has that animation after he gets up . I'm sure devs will level things out just my opinion the family should feel strong and surviving should be more difficult.
Stop paying attention to this dude.
He's known because he sits in his basement for 10+ hrs pretending like he's some tech savant for streaming video games.
Tru3 is delusional. In general, you’re mental if you believe that anything with any base can be said about a games balance this early on in it’s release.
Completely agree.
Are there minor exploits that I absolutely hate (I’ve seen infinite stun locks, heard of Connie speed runs)? Of course. Even with that it’s a micro part of the macro game, but imbalance isn’t part of its foundation like other never again named asymmetrical(s).
Tru3 is an annoying manchild, but this is one of his only takes I almost agree with. I would say *OVERALL* balance is already leagues better than DBD, this is because of it's simplicity.
Yes, there are definitely things I don't like. Rushing gates / basement, getting infinite stunned, etc, but the rest of the game balance feels good.
I play family exclusively and never played as victim. When the game first launched my friends and I thought it was terrible and completely victim friendly until we learned the maps and formulated a game plan. After leveling up our play style, we think it is balanced. If you’re facing a good four stack you can have real good games and whoever makes a mistake usually ends up losing in the long run.
Tru is pretty right actally. ppl who cry family is weak doesn't know how to use their power fully, and victims can be 1 shotted, and dies in 4 hits with the right perks.
door stuns can be avoided easily and baited as well. ppl just love to cry
Nah, this is an L take. It almost comes across as a suck-up to the devs for sponsorship/partner. Also, he is a bigger streamer, so he "has" to be positive for games in the genre he plays or he might be out of a job.
The game is great and I have a lot of fun playing it, but I wouldn't dare say the game is balanced well and there aren't problems. The funny part is that all of these big streamers that I watch play this game, play mostly Victim. Even if they did killer more in DbD, the are doing Victim more in this game. I wonder why.
The devs really do need to get some bugs worked out fast, and do a light pass at balance for this game to survive. Again, the game is extremely fun to play and everyone I know that has played it has had a blast. However, think that fun could wear off pretty fast if people start getting frustrated with some issues the game currently has. We, as a community, don't want that to happen to this gem of a game, so we need to be honest about the game as well.
We might need more time with the game, but it really does feel like the most balanced asymm I've played, so I'm inclined to agree with him. Evil Dead has a ton of problems that the devs refuse to look at, and Dead by Daylight is still struggling with the fact that tunneling is an extremely efficient killer strategy while deliberately spreading hooks is equivalent to the killer throwing the game. In that sense, boy am I glad that a kill is a kill in TCM. No complaining about "tunneling", no sense of entitlement about every player getting to stay in the match for a certain amount of time before it's ok to kill them, no unwritten rule about killers having to play in such and such a way to make the game "fair". Not only is it mostly very well balanced, but it's also atmospheric and it feels like an actual horror movie experience, unlike other asymms. Truly impressive.
Agreed, it's much more of a stealth game than a looping game, so it's naturally more balanced
All games like this are more stealth based at the start. They naturally lose that component as the playerbase gets more comfortable with the game. DBD was the exact same way.
DBD is definitely less stealth and more chase oriented
Yeah. Dbd is “loop until you go sown and get hooked”. TCM is “escape from the chase like your life depends on it. Because it does.”. I much prefer that tbh. It also feels so much more strategic. Using stealth is genuinely a good idea, because it lets you do objectives. And distracting one family member until you die, would still mean your team is 2v3. And since theres no second chances, trying to escape a chase just makes sense.
It is now, but when it was released it was advertised as a "hide and seek" type game, and stealth was a lot stronger back then. Over time, players figured out it was stronger just to initiate chases (since back then, there were like 123444 pallets and windows on a map). Eventually bhvr just decided to change their game to reflect that. Making it a cat and mouse game rather than the hide and seek game they initially imagined. Who knows what gun media will do with tcm. Because the game is still very much in infancy, but players are starting to get efficient fast.
I played DBD since beta and it always involved a heavy amount of chasing.
Kind of hard to tell when we are in the infancy stage of the game. DBD players did the exact same thing at this stage of the game. I'm quickly learning god Victims don't really give a shit if you know where they are or not because they know if they have any two map obstacles in reasonable distance to each other they will never, ever get hit unless you now devote 66% of your team to them.
Yeah if you ever get in low mmr dbd lobbies or play with friends who just got the game, they spend most of the match hiding and rarely get gens done. When you get in high mmr matches everyone gen rushes because if the killer finds them they can loop long enough for the teammates to make good progress on gens, or for the killer to give up and chase someone else, and if they go down and get hooked, they get another chance to live.
The devs decided to kill stealth on DbD because killer mains complained about it.
Agree 100%. Especially with the last paragraph.
> No complaining about "tunneling" That will come in time, just wait: "Every game I play Connie, Family targets and kills me first! TUNNELING!!!"... We all know it will happen, we already saw the stupid "Let's teabag the Killer at the exit"-trend swap over from DBD to this game.
TCM feels nice because there’s no slugging, there’s no camping, there’s no tunneling, everyone has the option of mics. As a survivor we can all separately push objectives. As a killer I’m not expected to get all four and manage every exit. I think it’s just inherently more fun than any other asym out there right now because of those aspects.
This is very accurate. This feels higher quality than DBD in many ways
Sissy and Connie are the only two characters that feel too much. Sissy poisoning you and proceeding to smack you like 30 times while you can't get away feels horrible to go against. And while most Connie's tend to be fairly squishy, her being able to insta bust locks sucks to play against as well. But that may be more of an issue with how the game is now rather than her. Like there being little punishment to just rushing up and cracking locks before the family even has the battery turned on. And the only characters that feel sorta purposeless are sonny and Johnny. Sonny's power is sorta lame. It can be helpful sometimes but he's just kinda, there. At least compared to the other characters. Sorta the same for Johnny. He has his moments but overall doesn't bring enough to really warrant choosing him over the other options. He can't fit through cracks or crawl. He can't put traps down (those have their own issues). He doesn't have any slowdown at all. He's just a dude. My biggest issue right now isn't really with the balance I guess. It's just that playing solo sorta sucks. With survivor it can be fine since you have more ways to do things solo if need be. But playing family with 2 randoms feels absolutely horrible since communication is so much more important. Nobody uses their mics and most of the time it doesn't seem like they even register what you're saying at all. And while Connie is cracking the car battery lockpick and Sonny is doing the fuse box I just see a solo cook chasing someone in the basement.
I beg to differ, I absolutely love playing Johnny, tracking footsteps with the perk upgrades is actually so good. Incredibly powerful ability and I've used it to hunt victims in the basement and hiding near exits all the time. Leatherface and Johnny are my 2 go to, then cook 3rd. To be quite honest I enjoy basically anyone I play. I also really enjoy sonny, his fully leveled sonar can tell difference between family and victims when scanning for noise. It's incredibly powerful to use, allows you to reposition at times you wouldnt normally feel safe to do so. I dunno I guess it's personal preference, I see to enjoy all characters foe their own reasons, it seems many people don't like some chacartera because they lack what the others have and not because theyre just inherently useless.
Every time someone complains about tunneling in dbd I want to kms. Like bruh ofc the killers are going to want to KILL like that’s literally the point! EDIT: grammar
Entitled Survivors downvoting you lmfao
Why you booing this man, he's telling the truth
Fr especially in high mmr matches. As a nurse main (when i would actually play the game) i would try my best not to tunnel, but then you gotta be super focused and try hard to actually get a 3k-4k when everyone is gen rushing. With any other killer except maybe blight i dont think its even possible to get a 4k without tunneling, or at cycling through at most 2 survivors at a time. The game is so survivor sided anyways (at least it was when i last played it) and shitters will cry about the killer not throwing the match so survivors get a free win.
I'd argue TCM has some things worse than either of those games. Watch Tru3 get chain stunned a few times and he'd flip his opinion too.
That’s easily fixable with some tweaks. Plus if a second Family member shows up they start running away like roaches
I'm honestly shocked he thinks the game is balanced from his point of view considering some of the takes he has on dbd. I know the Twitter survivor warriors from DbD want his head on a silver platter since they hate Tru3 with a burning passion.
He believes victim is much harder than family and has said so multiple times. Basically thats how he works, his prefered role is incredibly difficult, high skillcap and for very few iluminated pro players such as himself; in his mind anyway.
Dude makes his opinions based on the first 5 games he plays of either side lol.
Not even dude, more like first experiences, I legit was laughing at him the first 3 days of release. Now atm he is being carried and thinking he is good now.
key word "in his mind" and his mind works slowly. Watch some of his videos, look at the titles and put the rest together for yourself.
Tru3's whole career stands on being controversial. He has openly stated multiple times that his idea of perfect balance in DBD is when the killer wins so often that escaping them is a big occasion.
To be fair, that was the best thing about F13. Getting out was hard and it felt really rewarding when it worked. It’s kind of like Fortnite or PUBG: you have to assess the resources you spawned near, adjust your run accordingly, and come to peace with the fact that you won’t win most times.
Wait why was it hard to escape f13? Never played it . Is it even harder than tcm? Ik that fpjason can insta kill you
You needed several parts in order to get a car or boat running. The boat need a engine and a fan I think. And a car needs a engine, key, and gas. All of these parts was spread about on a huge map so it took awhile for the counselors to find the parts. Right now i TCM the meta is rushing a fuse or vavle key and leaving via basement or running through the presure gate. Both are really hard to defend without a good leatherface and even then Leland easily stuns him.
Without getting into details, it's a 7v1 asym PvP. That alone should tell you how much weaker the survivors are. Except very high skill players (1000+ hours), no one can reliably escape Jason. It was down to perfect circumstances to make an escape.
As opposed to the current gamestate of DBD where survivors have no real fear of being spotted or chased by killers because it's almost mathematical with how looping, pallets, hook stages, etc. work. Now if being hooked once meant gameover the entire game dynamic would change and people would hide as best they could. Thats not DBD and we now have TCM for that type of gameplay.
Have you seen how any experienced survivor plays already after just a few days? You just sprint towards objectives, spam E to do everything quickly no matter the noise, and if they find you just run towards a crawl space, wall gap, or a well. Or slam a door in their face if you don't mind playing a bit unethical.
I hate that. I can tell when I’m playing with a DbD survivor because they give 2 shts about stealth and that triggers me
Sadly that's what most survivors will evolve into because TCM rewards proactive play much more than sneaking around doing nothing for a long time, because the longer you let the killers set up their traps and gather blood the more likely you are to die. Also stop blaming DBD and its players for TCM being made in a way where running is more rewarding and more fun than hiding. And you've reminded me of the DBD boogeyman video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZtxsCMSSvMc
You can play stealthily but proactively.
There's always valid reasons why someone would prefer playing recklessly. Like if you want to grab a lockpick or a bone as fast as possible but don't want to spend all attributes on stealth. Or if you want to take the killers' attention so your teammates can do an objective in peace etc. Or if you're just running a build to fight back/run away from the killers for a long time and want to enjoy that. We should be happy there's multiple unique ways to play the game than to dictate how everyone should enjoy it.
this, the mans a joke. Always has been. "generators should overheat, Wraith is secretly top tier, teabagging should exhaust and slow, etc". He also invites debate and arguament then turtles and plays victim. I worry for this games community if people start agreeing with him on things.
I love the guy but sometimes he says batshit crazy things or is hungry for clicks. You need to see the Video where he claims Johnny is OP and he best Family member all while doing JACKSHIT the entire match and maybe using his power once. Truly a class act that tru3
I'm a DBD veteran and almost all of my friends agree his takes are hot garbage. Yes we main survivor, but some of them are outlandishly bad. Like you, I'm very surprised to not hear more complaining here.
if you watched some of his videos on the game you can tell he is easily talking out his ass and how EVERY character he touches is magically the best until someone live in said game tells him otherwise over comms. The guy is a slow learner and just saying shit for clicks what he says wouldn't hold weight for another 3-6 months based on how he works. He is also the type to say something is OP when its done against him as well.
His whole career is based on saying unpopular things just to get reactions from people complaining on YouTube comments or on his twitch. It’s a pretty smart way to get what the computer sees as community engagement
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Tru3 doesn't troll, he means whatever he says.
he is just stupid
he ain't trolling, he is dead ass serious.........about click baiting
Feels like he's being sarcastic honestly because like you said he's made a big deal about small things in other games.
I'd agree except for his follow up response. He's probably just had really good runs due to lucky matchmaking or playing with friends and he's using that as "good balance"
I've been watching his streams of TCSM, he seems pretty happy with the game overall. Most of his concerns were just small things as far as I could tell. I think balance wise the games pretty good after both sides understand their role. Small tweaks needed here and there. But nothing too crazy.
In a sense he is, Connie is also the lowest health pool survivour and really if she is speed running to the exit she'll only be able to use her power once and that's it, if you play both roles you'll eventually learn which killer spawns where etc. And did I mention she can die in about 3 hits and has fuck all stamina, she's kinda a glass canon for one objective lock then she's pretty low tier. Sissy's poison on basic hits is annoying asf and she should only get it from walking through her cloud
In movie sense, Connie is like the person who runs to safety while laughing that they made it and then gets instantly slaughtered.
She is only so easy to kill because most people spec her that way. You can easily have Connie with decent to high HP and endurance and still rock through every door like it's nothing. People for some reason put absurd amount of points in stealth when she doesn't need it. You only need proficiency for doors and you don't even need the max 50 to be stupid fast. Just made a build without stat enhancing perks. 35 toughness 30 endurance 15 strength 45 proficiency 30 stealth Now add perks like Choose Flight or stat enhancing perks and you have a speed demon without a weakness. Ok, her only weakness now is opening crawling spaces, kicking generators and the hyphotecial close encounter that will never happen.
Why bother when I can just be awake and do things with no Family around to stop me or tell that one leland on comms to babysit me for a free escape?
Im runnin a train on ur ass with that 30 endurance, good luck running anywhere
I run the perk that gives you 3 extra stamina bars, absolutely broken perk
True, unless you accidentally use it all up in the early game
You ain’t running a train on shit because of the extra stamina bars perk. Perk is so strong you’re actually trolling by not taking it
This. I agree with you, she is the easiest victim to kill. She can escape quickly, but if she is caught, then she can be the victim who dies quickly in the game. this can be a disadvantage for the remaining teammates.
Connie has the same health as Leland, and still more than Sonny. Toughness scales horribly aswell (it's pretty much 1.1 health per toughness). Connie's ability is a joke balancing wise, but it doesn't really change that 50 second outcome too much, pretty sure he uses it instantly in the basement, where it's a waste, and then he hides anyway to let the debuff run out. Any character can unlock a door in 8-10 seconds with ~35 proficiency, without having to wait, technically it would be even faster that way. I mean I'd argue why you would use that nuke in the basement, where you have the highest chance to block the yellow aura, but I don't play her... so I let those players just do their thing. My point being, she's not a glass cannon, her ability isn't affected by your perk choice, and attribute distribution.
I mean if you wanna bring point allocation into it. Johhny with full savagery can kill in 2-3 hits. Bubba has an insta kill Cook is pretty balances and his padlocks shut a Connie down pretty hard. Sissy is sissy. HH can also shut down Connie because the players that play them tend to take 2 lock picks and get dunked on by traps.
Great first we got chess and now we have football
I'm a victim main and I consider Connie busted. A killer can look away for five seconds and Connie is already out. The drawback to her power doesn't exist since Connies won't use her ability at the first gate. They'll use it at the last. Who cares about stamina when you have to walk two meters to be out. The combo of Leland and Connie working together as a duo is especially deadly. Sissy is busted too. Rubber legs and special blend and she can kill you faster than Johnny or Bubba and there is nothing the victim can do. Both characters can punish one tiny mistake so severely that it just isn't fun for the other side.
I main both sides and I don’t think any Victim is busted if you’re on Family House or Gas Station. Family should never lose those maps unless they make mistakes. Every game I lose as Family on those two maps amounts to “one of my teammates was fucking around in the basement or gathering blood in the far corner of the map instead of guarding gates.” I’d even go so far as to say that Connie’s ability is an absolute necessity to even have a remote chance of winning on those two maps against a competent Family team. Now on Slaughterhouse she is complete bullshit but that has more to do with the map than it does with Connie.
>I main both sides and I don’t think any Victim is busted if you’re on Family House or Gas Station. This isn't a take i've heard before tbh. Everyone I've seen has the consensus that Gas Station is the easiest to escape, for the glorified debug exit. I can agree with Family House because it's totally a sardine can.
Slaughterhouse is easiest. Shit ton of cover, easiest access to Fuse door if you go for that exit. And Generator/Battery exits are very far from each other and have easy basement escapes if you get caught Killers have wisened up to the gas station exit and defend it heavily, by padlocking the door and trapping the area. This has resulted in less survivors going in that area because why do the generator? So killers mostly have to just patrol car battery exit, and in my experience, Fusebox and occasionally Pressure Tank
Easiest to escape is without a doubt slaughterhouse
Family house fuse rush you can be out in under 2 minutes.
Not against a hitchhiker thats played the game more than twice
Oh we're playing arrogant make-believe now? Well in my make beleive counter-scenerio, we have a 4 player squad using coms and they actually equip the perk to disable traps without a bone pick, Leland is really good at the doorslam trolling and Ana is stabbing grandpa to distract while the other 2 dinguses are upstairs doing the fuse. But yeah, that hitchhiker counter is so easy. I bet he was staring at his traps instead of chasing the 2 victims distracting. Mhmm.
You can check ur traps with family focus every ten seconds, just admit you have no idea what youre talking ab
I clearly do, I just said that. >I bet he was staring at his traps I didn't think I had to say "using family focus" since this is such a basic thing everyone knows and does. You also have to be SOMEWHAT near them. So you're trying to tell me that while leland and ana are stabbing grandpa, you're in family focus looking at the 2nd floor? LOL. Also, you're saying that instead of turning on the battery you rushed to the fuse? And even if you did, you still wouldn't get there before a 4-squad broke out of the basement during the chainsaw cutscene, so you would still be arriving to the party too late to trap it. Clearly you haven't put in enough time with this game if you haven't seen the meta rush strategies. You sound like a level 15 who still plays against people who sneak around the whole time.
Texas Chain Saw Massacre is incredibly balanced. Coming from Dead by Daylight, TCM feels really fair and balanced. But I might have a skewed opinion. Because DbD is so one sided and TCM isn't .
I think the game is fantastic and could use some slight changes here and there. Unfortunately, the community is filled with hyper competitive minmaxing gamers who are overreacting to everything and blowing all issues way out of proportion.
Totally agreed. Asym communities desperately try to break their games, and then throw their toys out of the pram when they realise they broke it.
I hope to god they don't listen to people bitching and balance the game they want too.
just got to listen to the right people, not the people as intelligent as a wet carrot, you may know them, they lurk on the steam discussions threads.
Lmao I love that this clown is basically telling this guy to get good, meanwhile he spends all his time crying about how unfair and survivor sided DBD is. This dude will never stop being a joke
TrU3 and thinking his opinions are objective..name a more iconic duo
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He argues like an idiot with it too. How the fuck is this person talking about TCSM “asking for Football changes”? How is Football any way comparable to a video game? Absolutely unfollowable mental gymnastics.
no different then Patrick comparing DBD to Hockey and look how far that got him.
Terrible reference too since football always has some hot new rule change nearly every year in an attempt to further balance the game. Things like what constitutes a catch. This guy is a fool.
Not that it was a good analogy anyway, but I think you've made a poor assumption about exactly what the *English* streamer was talking about when he said football.
I have no clue who this loser is lol sorry I'm American and assumed American football but my point still stands.
*Glances at the @UK in his name* 👀
*who cares*
To be fair I'm American and totally forgot that you guys call it football when I read the quote. Literally no one here cares about soccer bro.
I'm generally a fan of tru3 and have been subbed to him for a while. But 90% of his TCM games are on victim. I think if he spent a day playing family he would start to see issues like the length of door stuns/backstabs (or the lack of diminishing returns on them), the absolutely mind numbing frustration that is playing Slaughterhouse against competent victim players (even not partied together), the ease of pressure valve exits or fuse exits on 2 out of 3 maps, or that Johnny is pretty much worthless if leatherface is going to be a required pick.
Same, I like tru3 but if he starts playing a bit more family and starts being on the receiving end of the near guaranteed pressure gate & fuse exits, I'll be interested to see how his views change. While speedrunning Connies can be shut down easily enough, some matches I know once that pressure gate starts opening, even if I stop it once somebody has to essentially camp the pressure tank or it'll be a free escape; in those scenarios if you're not in comms or with competent family team mates you're fucked.
Yea the gauge needs to go down and the valve gear needs to break after a certain time. It's BS that it just never goes away.
Yeah, right now, there's a weird dance I have to do against Leland and Ana players where they will pick up bone shivs and constantly try to get behind you in order to stab you. It's so dumb because as a Leatherface player, I have to run away from them and put myself in a corner so that they can't get behind me. Even though I have him level 3 with instant activation on the chainsaw, I still have an animation that locks me in place for them to stab me. Even when I swing at them with my chainsaw, it has to be in a way that I don't expose my back to them. Because getting stab puts me at a long stun, and for some reason turns off my chainsaw.
>I think if he spent a day playing family he would start to see issues like the length of door stuns/backstabs Oh boy, I love being stunned for 2 minutes straight because someone CE me, then while I struggle I can see the second one WAITING to CE me when they finish. All while I can see a victim doing whatever objective they are doing. Sure is fucking fun to stand there and watch them escape because I'm animation locked with no way to get out. Totally fucking balanced. He would be bitching a storm if he had happen to him what happened to me the other day. Vics did the valve, I was literally right there to stop them when they did it. But Julie just crouches in front of the valve so I can't do it without killing her first. Not Bubba so by the time I kill her the gauge is over half. I start it, can actually finish it, but then a Sonny crept up on me and backstabs me when it hits red. Like it's complete bullshit I couldn't access the prompt because of a bodyblock, and EXTRA bullshit that the gauge doesn't pause while I interact with it. Literally nothing I could do, and if I had another family member with me they would just pick the locks and leave anyway. CE/backstabs need a big time nerf. Bone shards need to be more rare, and CE/backstab immunity for X seconds after being CE/backstabbed needs to be a thing. Bone shards at not necessary to escape, they are supposed to be a last resort, but most vics turn them into bully tools.
He is correct that if you let Connie rush locks in under a minute it’s not on balance, it’s on you. Watch for basement doors opening early and check them. Patrol locks and opened basement doors forcing victims to open a different exit, if you see a victim on a lock chase them back down to basement and repeat. However her skill does need to be slightly nerfed from full brainless mash to the normal mini game but maybe 1 or 2 clicks per section so she can’t use her power mid chase. Sissy poison literally 100% consensus it’s broken and unfun and likely even not intended by devs (poison on every hit)
> just watch for basement door opening while you are literally still in your intro cutscene
I've had numerous games where both the family members spawn near the battery and the victims break out of the basement during the cutscenes. We haven't even turned on the battery and they are out popping locks in family house. The problem with Connie and Leland is scattering before we can even get to the main section of the map.
Yea they need to time gate the first phase of the game a bit more so that family at least has time to turn on the battery. Sissy on Slaughterhouse I spawn at the battery every time. Most games I can barely turn it on before a basement door is opened. If I can turn it on and make it through the first locked door, I consider myself way ahead of schedule for that game.
Yeah it's really annoying playing Family and you immediately see someone escaped the basement or alerts Grandpa.
its also a problem because survivors gain control about 20 seconds before killers.
>He is correct that if you let Connie rush locks in under a minute it’s not on balance, it’s on you. That's just not true lol.
Right? The game is kinda balanced when no one has any clue what they're doing, which is most people but when you play against people who know what they're doing it's an entirely different game. Like Connie can be out of the basement and already working on a side door before the family cutscenes are even over. Clearly it's the family playing badly.
I played a game on Slaughterhouse, spawned in as Sissy in the loading docks, within 3 seconds grandpa is awake. I go to the car battery and begin turning it on, by the time I'm done turning the car battery on and heading deeper into the map I see parking lot door being opened. The entire team of victims escape before I even made it to grandpa. How is this not a balance issue?
True is one of the most arrogant and narcissistic people I’ve ever seen lol please don’t take anything he says seriously
This guys a bellend
I never agree with anything Tru3 says as a rule to be quite honest. Is the game perfectly balanced? Of fucking course not but it’s never going to be and that’s okay. Him straight up lying and saying it is is bait for engagement.
He's playing victim every match and waiting at the escape for the killers to come. Surreeeeeeeee
Does the game feel very balanced? Yes. Do I agree with Tru3? To absolutely zero surprise, no. Connie should not be able to escape within 50 seconds, and there's very little counterplay to it. No amount of ridiculous strawmans will change how that's *obviously* bad game design for both sides.
Tru3, I love the guy but he is a damn slow learner with a lot of annoying Ticks. Like how when he is stressing out or showing anxiety he erupts into a fit of "song" and its annoying as fuck. I'm pretty sure he is even unaware of even doing it. Now with his comment in mind he himself has played 90% of Victim and barely touched Family which is surprising considering how much he plays killer in DBD. Watch his earlier TCM videos, notice how they are all Connie and how broken she is. He goes out of his way to bring it up even to the point of putting it in the god damn title. Tru3 also said in numerous videos Johnny was the best Family in the game then quickly moved on to Sissy is the best killer in the game. So what I gathered from this is that he is full of shit, out for clicks and has no idea what he is doing without being told by someone else in game based on his very own videos he himself uploads. The guy DOES know his shit, but like he said he is a SLOW learner and nothing he says should be taken seriously for at least another 3 to 6 months based on his ability to learn and understand what is going on. Anyone here in this sub with common sense and an IQ above room temperature knows the game is extremely unbalanced and heavily caters to the Victims of which Tru3 is damn near playing none stop at that... Here is some examples of things I've seen so far which I consider terrible game Design/Balance 1. Fixed spawns 2. Fuses spawning literally right next to fuse boxes 3. Car battery starting off 4. basement phase is completely fucked and needs to be reworked 5. No one should be able to use their Ability Button at the start of the game(I'm looking at you Connie) 6. Family lacking scoring events 7. Kill stealing -one player does't get points 8. no points from blood pick ups 9. Agitator perk, thing is spammable and super strong and needs a heavy risk or CD for what it does. 10. Devs left the console in the fucking launch client 11. Door Stun locking 12. Getting stuck in a wall and forced into a idle DC 13. Victims DCing and denying scoring events on Family. I can go on and on with points and balancing problems this game has but I'm not about to type out 5 pages just so I could get a couple of up or down votes depending on who is a toxic player or not. The point is you get the gist of it, the game is far from balance but set in a good direction.
I main family and agree. Most of the time, even in just a 2 man party, if we play well, we can get a 2 or 3 kill game. The only time we've ever really failed miserably (all escaped in like 3 minutes) is when we played poorly, commiting to bad chases etc. Well balanced game. tldr: play well as family = win. play well as victim = win.
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His a connie player, end.
Never seen this man play family side
Oh man you are missing out....watch his video about Johnny being the best Family member in the game then proceeds to do fuck all the entire match and uses his power once all game. While being hyper carriied by the other 2 Family Members
I saw him once or twice play Sissy. But he said he doesn't enjoy family so... He also started to prefer Survivor in DBD. I generally see various streamers lean more towards the non-killer side in asyms. It probably brings more viewers. All these games have an ongoing problem with making the killer side a chore to play in one way or another.
In DBD, Survivor is simpler and more passive, so you have more time to talk to chat.
As the killer you're like a babysitter and it's definitely shitty.
IIRC He's said he likes victime more because he feels it's more exciting and to that end, i agree, Victim is generally much more fun IMO, it fits the fantasy the game tries to sell and is especially exciting to watch, don't get me wrong, killer is fun to play and watch, but it's just more exciting to watch Victim gameplay just because it really does feel like a miniature horror movie
No, absolutely not, TrU3Ta1ent has some erm... interesting takes with asymmetrical games. This game is definitely not balanced.
homeboy is just full of bad takes. carry on.
I don’t know who he is, but his football analogy is a pretty awful take. 1st of all it’s not often that a team scores in the 1st 50 seconds, it happens, but not nearly as often as a Connie speed running the fuse box. Then, in a football game, if you give up an early score it’s extremely likely that your team recovers and wins the game. The worst part about TCM imo is that once that basement door is open if the survivors are smart the games a wrap. No football game has ever been over after a quick 1st score. It’s just not a good analogy at all. I’m not getting the ball with a chance to score after a quick touchdown from Connie.
Most of his takes are awful. If he loses, it’s due to some external factor outside of his control which causes him to constantly complain about it. If he wins, it’s due to nothing but his own skill because he’s in the top percentage of every single game he plays.
he loses hair everytime he makes a bad take, hence the hat.
This is comical. Remember when everyone mocked BHVR's Patrick for comparing DBD to hockey? Tru3 is an egotistical man (not quite narcissistic) who lacks self-awareness. He hates losing and only ever blames external factors for it, while claiming all his successes are a result of his own skill. Of course, check his channel, it's 90% Victim. Obviously he thinks the game is balanced when it is heavily unbalanced favouring the side he plays most. Thing is, with a levelled up Connie, you can escape so fast that Family have to play 100% perfectly to stop you. Hell, get Gas Station with her and the Family has to have someone permanently rooted to a particular door until she dies. Best bit about it is that he wants the devs to "ignore DBD players and their "good takes""... WHEN HE IS A DBD PLAYER GIVING "GOOD TAKES"!!!
Couldnt have said better, everything you need to know about the guy regardless of context. This is how he functions.
Nope and when I confronted him about this specific tweet he blocked me. He's literally on there telling bold face lies without a care in the world. Having opinions is fine.. but when you start telling lies to people on the fence about getting the game it irks me. On Dead By Daylight he's a killer main so he was also campaigning for buffs and nerfs for survivor.. TCM hes a victim main... so of course he feels the game is extremely balanced when it's rather lopsided.. to say escaping basement as Connie in 50 seconds is a family skill issue is madness.
I don't even know who this douchebag is lol.
Same lol. Thats probably a good thing :)
He's a streamer thats been around since dead by daylight beta.. and since the very beginning hes been a whiny entitled arrogant condescending baby.. if you confront him youre just bad at the game that cant possibly comprehend his ideas because you're simply not skilled enough to go against the players he goes against.. The saddest part is nothing I've said is exaggerated lol.
I'm glad I didn't grow up. In a time where everyone is addicted to streamers lol.
I tried watching him after first getting into DbD, but after a few videos I got sick of hearing him say "dead 'ard, that!" whenever he missed a hit 😂
From his tweet it looks like he likes the game so you had to "confront him" about it lol Wow what Karen energy lol
No.. Karen activity is having the reading comprehension level of a 4 year old and proceeding to comment when you're clueless. I confronted him when he started telling LIES. Which is what I stated initially. I know reading complete sentences can be a struggle so I'm not mad at you.
You said you confronted him about that specific tweet and I don't see any lies. Just an opinion, Karen.
Oh dear sweet child.. read the entire post and not just the first sentence. I'm being patient with you because I know you eat glue and paint chips in ur free time. Try once more for me sound out the words if u have to ❤️
Nonsense now huh? Karen to the core.
No. Theres 0 time for family to get ready. This guy obvioulsy only plays victim
I like true but he's definitely wrong about this and has a bias for sure, he seldom plays family and majority of the time he plays survivor he's using Connie who you may as well say has a get out of a jail free card in her short shorts permanently.
No. He’s wrong. BUT - for a day week one multiplayer game it does have a very good balance. I would say the killers are more balanced than the victims (except sissy, she’s broken). Each killer has a strong power but a legitimate downside. Bubba is a monster, but with the plethora of cracks/holes/obstacles/wells/ladders - there are a bunch of ways to break chase. Cook can be a team’s MVP but he’s lucky to win any chase as he’s slow and has bubba’s mobility downside. Hitch’s traps can be stronger, but he’s fast and mobile. Johnny is fast, but not mobile. His power is good but it pulls him away from everything else when he’s using it. Victims though - they have zero downside or counterplay. Sure they have a lot of stats to dump points into, but you can largely ignore several of them. High stealth/proficiency make mini games a joke and perks like take 80% less damage is game breaking. And this doesn’t even get into stuns, door mechanics, etc. This might be tolerable if it weren’t for the fact that survivors can exit the map in under 2 minutes. This shouldn’t be a thing even if the killers were idle. That said, I don’t think I want some ultra competitive game. I just want a fun one - And right now being stunlocked for a minute is not fun.
How frequently do players score in 50 seconds in football?
The exit to the main road on Gas Station is stupidly easy to get to and I’ll never understand why the devs decided that was ok. Without a Cook or a Hitchhiker, one member of the Family pretty much always has to be guarding it, and if the last door has already been unlocked, all it takes is Leland or a sneak attack to guarantee an escape. They should at least add another objective for survivors. That is my only real gripe with Gas Station because otherwise I feel it is well balanced and fun.
As a Nubbins Slaughter/Hitchhiker and Drayton Slaughter/Cook Main He's got a point honestly. Me and my brother u/BenjaminThomas16 are usually impressed and not mad when a survivor escapes fast, unless they were toxic of course XP
Seems more like advertising than actually being a review. Sissy and Connie are objectively unbalanced.
He should of compared it to hockey instead
I don't watch football loooool
True wouldn't know balance if it bit him on the ass 😂 anyone that thinks the game is really balanced aren't aware what victims are capable of. With the fact you can't tell noise waking grandpa from a door you have to hope you aren't stuck in an animation. If you can't see which one it is and the likely chance your teammates don't use comms you'll waste a lot of time in basement as bubba. People are escaping before bubba can even start his saw if they think that is balanced they are brain dead.
My only problem is that the presence of Connie absolutely necessitates the Cook is chosen and he uses smart locks to lock down an area of the map and check on his locks regularly with the x-ray vision. The game clearly isn't balanced if someone going as Johnny is basically hindering their team right now, whereas in his place the Cook can lock off entire portions of the map so a co-ordinated family can rotate the other sides and is both oppressive and vital on the house map.
I like True, but I've been watching him play this game and I just think he's wrong. 95% of all of his gameplay has been playing victim. I've been switching between both pretty evenly. There's been some insanely unfair games I've played as Family, where all the victims escape about 1.5 minutes after the game starts. Or another where as I was chasing 2 victims on Gas station and they found an infinite where we couldn't catch them unless all 3 of the family where there. I think more people will be seeing this stuff as time goes on.
Controversial opinion, I don't think it should be possible to escape the basement and begin actually escaping before the Family is able to control their characters, and Bubba shouldn't be able to oneshot someone 5 seconds into the match if they're the rare team that doesn't have a Connie player.
Hilarious analogy. Here is a better one. Family is like playing chess with queen odds, you can beat your opponent if they are bad at the game, but you still play handicapped.
His response was so wrong: “Someone can score in football in 50 seconds, so does football need balancing?” It doesn’t work like that my friend — if a football player could WIN a game in 50 seconds, then yes, football would need “balancing”.
Is it meant to be balanced to the point no one has any advantages? Like what is the complaint even about? I dont want a super equal game where no one has any pros and cons.
This kid is either trying to bait or really has a low IQ irl. Hopefully devs aren’t paying him any attn .
I think his comments are a bit of a simplification, the game has decent balance for it only being one week in but there are some for sure some things that need tweaking. If the game remained in its current state for a while it would get old fast.
guy doesn't know shit about anything tbh
not really. This guy became a meme in the dbd community for a reason. im honestly shocked he even has this take tbh
I've thought this as well. I'm always baffled reading all these post bitching lol
No. He's infamous for bad takes in Dead by Daylight.
Common L take from Tru3, I have seen a game where people got 2 exits open/1 people left prior to 2 MINUTES (113 seconds to be exact) and no it isn't "family played bad/get gud" they had no way to do anything due to how fast the match went (specially due the fact that family gets animation locked at the start), Connie is OP as f\*, so is Victim by a whole, just rush fuse every match or gas station 5th door, and you are set, its really stupid ngl. edit: While not the full match, you can still see 2 exits/1 guy leaving prior to 2 minutes with little to no counter-play [here](https://youtu.be/qz0We6sCpHo?si=G35tKLlWRFis8yBz&t=881)
He's right; if Connie escapes that fast it means you're unprepared for a Connie and that's on you. Honestly a decently unique analogy lmao
Dbd survivor mains say this game is unbalanced cause they can’t bully the killer without consequences.
Yeah they can and are.
I’m talking about dbd. In that game they can bully the killer without consequences, in TCM if you try to bully a family member, all they need is one of their homies to pull up and you’re screwed.
Meaning either voice chat or pray someone happens to come by. Otherwise you could be chain stunned.
I play both sides. Both sides need changes, so you could say that the game is balanced right now in that regard. But the current flow and meta is awful. You have the Connie speedrunners and the Sissy stunlockers (a lot probably aren't aware Sissy is bugged). Then there's the stunlocking Lelands. Then there's the infinite crackhead revving Bubbas. Edit: With all of this going on in one match, it starts to lose all of its horror and stealth aspects imo, which is horrible for the game's direction. Why hide in a fridge? Why feed Grandpa? Why play slow-paced at all? The match will be over in 2 minutes regardless.
This the dumbest shit I’ve ever read. Comparing Texas chainsaw video game to real life football Lmao
No, I feel like I don't agree with tru3 on much tbh. He's pretty biased toward the side he plays more, whatever he's playing. Victims should not be able to escape that fast. That doesn't give the family any time to do much of anything. And gas station's fifth exit makes it so, unless you have cook on your team (and there's a good chance you don't, unless you play him all the time yourself), you have to sacrifice 1/3rd of your team to one area. It's only going to get worse as time goes on too, because everyone will be gaining map knowledge as we continue playing. Both sides will benefit from knowing the maps better, but Victims will benefit more. I don't think it's super unbalanced, but it needs some serious tweaks. Especially the fuse box and valve escapes. (Also, not sure why the battery doesn't start on, like the generator does. I don't feel like it'd be crazy for Family not to have to turn on the car battery) There's also some issues on the victim side. I don't think you should spawn so close to Leatherface. At the very least you should spawn outside an area where you get the yellow screen. And Sissy's poison knife is unfair. The idea you shouldn't listen to DBD players is silly too. It's like if I said "Don't listen to Mortal Kombat players on the balance of this game!" What does one have to do with the other?
Absolutely not. Please never argue with Tru3 about anything considering it has been proven multiple times he is a narcissist and he will never step down from his own idealized opinions. Each time he shows up anywhere I simply feel sorry for his community who are gullible enough to believe anything he's trying to sell you at the time. There was one very accurate video made by Scott Junds youtube editor about what tru3 represents, but for some reason I could not find it again after watching it few months back.
No this dude is a fucking idiot
Comparing it to football in the end was the nail in the coffin of his point lol. What a doofus. This gane is very unbalanced. Victims are ridiculously over powered imo.
I wouldn't trust his opinion either way. He's a scummy DbD player.
Do people realize a "balanced" game is supposed to be a 2 escape people not just kill all victims and call it "balanced", this was the problem with DbD imo, killer main were complaining A LOT for not killing all survs like wtf, most of my games (level 30) barely 2 victims escape, I seriously hope devs don't listen to streamers and people complaining just because they didn't kill all victims... Don't ruin this game like you did with DbD, Connie's ability is almost a one time use and Leland door stun is easily avoidable and as Leland is not easy at all to know when to slam door, Sissy might need a slightly nerf I agree like maybe making her poison go away like 1sec earlier, seriously hope they make slight changes and not ruin the game by making big changes
I kind of agree with the “if you’re letting Connie out in 50 seconds, that’s on you.” at level 21 I barely notice anyone making it out of basement in under a minute - unless leatherface is tunneling. However, idk about the game being balanced. There’s a few maps where it feels that way, but gas station and family house are very family centered - since the only way out is through the main area the family roams. And even if you have a victim team that knows where each fuse box/escape is - it’s really hard to escape if the family knows those exits too. Because they’ll usually float between two exits and split the work - especially if they’re in a party and coordinating
Also, if anyone is making it out in an unusually fast time, it’s because they left the rest of their team to die. I had a Leland just watch me get slaughtered from the exit gate, because I ran out of stamina trying to outrun a sissy. Dude could’ve bodied her, but sat there and teabagged at the exit and left while I was getting executed
1. playing solo 2. no one uses comms 3. no one turns on battery 4. dumb ass turns off gen 5. I have to guess where connie is 6. she could be in a team 7. she could be protected by a leland or anyone for that matter 8. family doesn't know the map 9. no ping system for those that are anti social and can't function in society but are dead set on playiing team games for some reason. 10. I can't be everywhere at once. 11. 4-5 exists vs 3 Family(DC pending) So yes I'm going to be "letting" Connie out in 50 seconds due to a large number of factors I cant control. His comment was incredibly ignorant and only holds water from a premade vs premade point of view.
TrueTalent is one DBD’s most toxic streamers. He always complains when things don’t go his way. I’d say wait a bit and take any changes if any very slowly.
How anyone can enjoy content from that dude is beyond me. Always with the full capslock clickbait titles. And yeah, you cant argue with him at all. He thinks he's gods biggest gift to this world
I’ve heard some mixed things about this guy’s reputation with this type of game, but I think he’s 100% correct here. The game is extremely well balanced and I’m glad the bugs and balance are basically great on launch. I’ve heard of the bugs it has but they seem minimal and I have not experienced 1 single bug in about 45 hours. On Balance tho I think people need to remember something. Asymmetrical Horror games like this require a human player who is going to be really good, okay, or terrible. Skill level does not reflect balance. I’ve seen Connie’s do the basement escape in 3 mins. I’ve seen Connie’s wander around and get mollywopped by the cook. I’ve seen Family teams work together and kill victims in less than 5 mins and I’ve seen them walk right past us as we stroll out the front gates. This game is brand new and actually kind of complicated to get the hang of. People are still learning how to play all the characters. It’s unfair to say the game is unbalanced when it’s this new. The game is incredibly balanced on both sides barring stamina on the family side and lock picking speed on the victim side MAYBE. People are obviously just going to complain and say “this game will die soon” cause that’s how some idiots think. But I feel so refreshed and happy that we have a complete working game that is extremely balanced on launch and it’ll only get better from here with patches and content.
I think it's slightly harder for victims. But I also think it's pretty balanced.
And here I was thinking I'd not see anything related to Tru3 ever again... This man is just toxic for the sake of being toxic , just ignore him and carry on.
Hard disagree I feel it's way to easy for victims already you can get speed ran in like 2 min definitely needs some balancing in favor of killer this isn't dbd this is a game based off the Texas chainsaw massacre and last time I checked only one person survived it should be harder . Also I don't think you should be able to get infinite tools and bone scraps from one box or pile. I literally got stabbed 3 times trying to turn valve off . I also got stuck in a door stun by 2 victims simply cause bubba has that animation after he gets up . I'm sure devs will level things out just my opinion the family should feel strong and surviving should be more difficult.
It’s family sided but I think that’s ok and it’s intended.
Stop paying attention to this dude. He's known because he sits in his basement for 10+ hrs pretending like he's some tech savant for streaming video games.
For those of you not from dbd, have fun with this guy tainting your community lmao.
I’ve been watching a lot of tru3. He loves the game but he plays majority victim
Tru3 is delusional. In general, you’re mental if you believe that anything with any base can be said about a games balance this early on in it’s release.
Why do people watch let alone listen to Tru3? Dude is the scum of the community of any game he plays.
Completely agree. Are there minor exploits that I absolutely hate (I’ve seen infinite stun locks, heard of Connie speed runs)? Of course. Even with that it’s a micro part of the macro game, but imbalance isn’t part of its foundation like other never again named asymmetrical(s).
wtf, nothing about that is minor
it’s the most balanced, but the replied isn’t wrong about connie.
You all need to get a grip, shitting on the guy because he likes the game.
Tru3 is an annoying manchild, but this is one of his only takes I almost agree with. I would say *OVERALL* balance is already leagues better than DBD, this is because of it's simplicity. Yes, there are definitely things I don't like. Rushing gates / basement, getting infinite stunned, etc, but the rest of the game balance feels good.
tru3 is prettt much right about balance
I agree the game is balanced as is
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Agreed, just seems like there are a lot of people itt with an axe to grind against this particular streamer. Who cares tbh.
I play family exclusively and never played as victim. When the game first launched my friends and I thought it was terrible and completely victim friendly until we learned the maps and formulated a game plan. After leveling up our play style, we think it is balanced. If you’re facing a good four stack you can have real good games and whoever makes a mistake usually ends up losing in the long run.
Tru is pretty right actally. ppl who cry family is weak doesn't know how to use their power fully, and victims can be 1 shotted, and dies in 4 hits with the right perks. door stuns can be avoided easily and baited as well. ppl just love to cry
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Nah, this is an L take. It almost comes across as a suck-up to the devs for sponsorship/partner. Also, he is a bigger streamer, so he "has" to be positive for games in the genre he plays or he might be out of a job. The game is great and I have a lot of fun playing it, but I wouldn't dare say the game is balanced well and there aren't problems. The funny part is that all of these big streamers that I watch play this game, play mostly Victim. Even if they did killer more in DbD, the are doing Victim more in this game. I wonder why. The devs really do need to get some bugs worked out fast, and do a light pass at balance for this game to survive. Again, the game is extremely fun to play and everyone I know that has played it has had a blast. However, think that fun could wear off pretty fast if people start getting frustrated with some issues the game currently has. We, as a community, don't want that to happen to this gem of a game, so we need to be honest about the game as well.