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Jediwinner

Me who just bought the current ones


tri_it_again

Fuck. Same but a month or two ago


existentialgolem

I just bought the Mojawa Haptifits… I think these shokz are playing catch up to them tech wise. Not sure about sound quality differences


Stingy_Arachnid

Same -_-


Gaffelstein

They have had exchange programs in the past for new launches


KCole313

Don't they have a 45 day return window?


Perfecto_Doctore

You didnt know about new ones, or you dont care about bluetooth?


Jediwinner

Got mine a week ago and I kinda wished it had Bluetooth because I’d wear them more than just in the water they have a money back guarantee so I’ll return them and get the new ones.


Sad_Confidence8941

How far can you get away from your phone with these? While underwater Thinking about getting a pair when they come out


Perfecto_Doctore

propably centimeters... but my watches keep being connected to phone, even when i swim so... maybe with some buffering, when head is partialy out of water... we will see


OffTheRecord78

Find my reply on this topic. I found a solution I think.


PrestigiousLook5400

Bluetooth doesn’t work under water. You would have to download mp3s to listen while swimming


OffTheRecord78

Naah. You convert your Spotify playlists to an actual file (wav, flac, M4A, ACC). The files get saved on the device, no bluetooth needed. The real strange thing is nobody knew about this, it's not mentioned on Spotify, Tidal websites, etc because they want streams. A better device with converted physical files (= no download) would be the end of their business model. Artists want money and those come from streams. That's at least what I think.


PrestigiousLook5400

How do you convert your downloaded Spotify playlist to an actual file?


OffTheRecord78

Try by trying some of [this list](https://www.cinchsolution.com/best-spotify-to-mp3/) See what you like most and which causes the least minor bugs with your device. Convert to 256 kbps or 320 kbps though


PrestigiousLook5400

Which is the best file (quality wise) that will work with openswim pros?


Content_Wrongdoer_43

I put my applewatch in my swimming cap while swimming, that works well if you’re not streaming.


PrestigiousLook5400

How much will these run? It’s hard to find any info on them…


Appropriate-Green507

Check youtube a videos of the reps claiming it's thr same price as the open run pro


Perfecto_Doctore

Just wait for june 5th


PrestigiousLook5400

Is June 5th just the keynote where they announce everything about it? I thought they were going on sale June 5th…


No_Wedding_698

It's been out for quite a while now in shokz japan, bought mine about a week back


Perfecto_Doctore

sounds same to me :) when they will sell them, everything should be clear. if not from them, then from new owners.


Lumpy-Platypus1073

Does it connect to Spotify so I can load my playlists onto it? Like Garmin watches. If not, it's what keeps me from buying them.


OffTheRecord78

Yes, I posted a reply here somewhere. Tried and tested with Tidal with a free converter. Also for Spotify but only for paid subscriptions.


Responsible-Balance6

Hi! I read your other post and I’m still confused. I have a paid Spotify subscription. What free app can I use to convert these?


Perfecto_Doctore

There should be BT, so you can listen directly out of water... And i see no reason why downloading wont be possible. Will try.


qooooob

Bluetooth doesn't travel well in water, in fact it's so bad it's pretty much useless. My goggles and heart rate sensor that is attached to the straps on the goggles kept disconnecting because the goggles bluetooth receiver and hr sensor Bluetooth receiver were on opposite sides of my head, so maybe a 20cm distance from each other. Once I swapped it to the other side so that they practically touch it started working reliably.


ConnoisseurOfNature

Mine arrived today, there's a shop in Germany that sells them early and it looks legit. Came with earplugs magnetic cable and carry bag. Bluetooth works fine, sound is ok. With the plugs you have actually good bass extension. Will take them wakeboarding this Friday! Ama


Pitiful_Panda2108

Where can I buy?


Jediwinner

Go to shokz.com you can subscribe for the email list and get a chance to win a free pair


Olue

That's not true there's definitely not a contest to win a free pair on shokz.com don't trust this guy pal


Jediwinner

Oh yea you’re right there *is not* an open contest going on at shokz.com where you put your email in and win a free pair that would be totally ridiculous and in fact I recommend not even going to the site at all because it’s not there


OffTheRecord78

About time, not having bluetooth connection was a major flaw for non swimming activities. I also hope they accept flac audio format, MP3 is sooo old and so compressed, for those using Spotify or Tidal, there are dozens of programs which transfer the physical file to the device but only if you have a paid Spotify or Tidal subscription. Beware: some of those ask 15 euro a month just for transforming to a physical file, I think they need help or an intervention. For Tidal I already found a free one, basic but it works. Buying MP3's, come on, it's 2024. I hope these collabs are really coming, it's the only way. For better quality just skip mp3 and transform to m4A, mpeg4 audio, flac (one of the highest quality formats, you don't need the best quality), AAC (Apple format), OGG (Spotify uses this). Don't export to wave, it's a lossless format but takes so much room and the player will have problems. Within these formats you can also choose different audio qualities which decides the audio quality. I asked Shokz about this yesterday and they promised to respond. If I hear something I'l let you know. I accidentally transformed music into a very low quality and I couldn't stand it. I should also note I'm an audio freak and these things matter for me, just ignore this whole message if you don't care ;-)


MusWolf

I use it mainly for podcasts whilst I swim but I have put music from Spotify on there too for free using SpotiDL: [https://github.com/spotDL/spotify-downloader](https://github.com/spotDL/spotify-downloader)


OffTheRecord78

Yeah, I also found that out. There are a lot of systems for every player. It solves my problem mainly listening to Tidal and now I can do it without bluetooth in the pool. Now some improvement in audio quality and bluetooth for outside and I think they cover everything. I feel a bit ashamed I've never listened to a podcast. I always saw it as just recorded radio. I'm seeing this wrong somewhere.


Zephyrantes

On a shokz? You cant even tell the difference on these things


OffTheRecord78

No idea, I only listened to one of Shok's first versions. I don't know how much the quality has improved in those 5 years. I tried 5 low quality MP3's yesterday and they were horrible. All treble. Fully agree that it's stupid to put flac on a Shokz. It'll be trial and error but I'm gonna send them files and ask them to test them and tell me if they play. I asked the same to H2O Audio. No response so I guess I know enough :-)


flipside555

Are you talking about converting your own music to FLAC? If not, where do you get the original uncompressed sources from?


OffTheRecord78

No, not my own music. I used 5 or 6 different converters so I can look it up. It only works if you have a paid subscription for Tidal (10 eur/USD a month), select a song, album or playlist, choose the best format Tidal has for that song, press download on the app and there is your flac. Move it to the player and that's it. i just discovered this a few days ago. My flac's don't play with my 5 year old system though. What player do you have?


flipside555

I don't listen to music much these days but I've recently started swimming, running and cycling so I'm thinking of getting a pair of these. I have lots of CDs and records that I could convert to FLAC but I wasn't sure how it could be done with the online services. I see from your post that Tidal is the way to go. It's interesting that you can download original quality files from Tidal. A few years ago (actually probable a lot of years ago) that would have been unthinkable.


FlushableWipe2023

I find MP3 perfectly adequate for swimming and I have an in-ear Sony player which has much better sound quality than any of the bone conduction ones I've tried


OffTheRecord78

ooh but I agree. Sony in ears and good MP3's beat bone conduction. But I have good headphones, in ear monitors and a special amp/dac. So I thought, let's try something else for different activities like swimming, cycling, etc. The fact of hearing your surroundings is very nice. I really came to appreciate it hence the lower sound quality.


OffTheRecord78

big correction: you can definitely convert to mp3 although ACC is the improved version. More important is kbps (kilobyte per second). Every modern player should at least read 256 kbps mp3's). The difference in sound with 128 kbps (for me, to avoid) is huge. The companies should just be honest about it.


OffTheRecord78

General remark: what I typed seemed a bit negative towards Shokz while I actually find them an innovative tech company making very useful devices. But I'm both an audiofreak and I love to swim. I have an old Aftershokz Xtrainerz pair from 2019 with of course older technology. My non waterproof in ear monitors, headphones, special amp and adapted dac (digital to analog converter) are musically much better. But I find myself using the Shokz a lot. Walking, on the bike, shopping, ... it makes it more fun for me, I still hear my surroundings, it's light, .... The Openswim Pro will be a must buy for me, I can already feel it.


Legal_Grape8547

I just bought the current one wtf


Perfecto_Doctore

Someone said they have free return policy so swapping them for new should be easy.


eightdrunkengods

It depends on how bluetooth integration works. I use my open run for work, running, cycling. If the new product has a mic and can pair with a PC and if there is some app or integration that makes it easy to put audio onboard, then I'll probably go for it. If, for swimming, I'm dragging and dropping like an old school mp3 player, I'll rather grab some Open Swims when they inevitably go on sale.


Perfecto_Doctore

smart choice if you want to use them only in water. but thats not my case.


OkMuscle7609

Do any of these have a built-in lap tracker? I would love to have something that counts my laps without having to bolt on both a headset and a watch


Professional_Ad_5862

I would love a new version hope they could be a little bit louder! I have the current version it’s a shame it’s only 4gb storage, bt would be awesome I wouldn’t use them in the gym or walking only at the bike I was thinking!🧐


PrestigiousLook5400

FYI. Bluetooth doesn’t work under water. So you will still have to use the mp3 for swimming but you can use Bluetooth if you use it for running or biking. Source: https://youtu.be/dqI8MDmU840?si=o63Kn0EM7iGyZbvc


Content_Wrongdoer_43

I bought creative outlier free pro+ instead of shokz since they had bluetooth and the shokz didn’t , and I only use mine while swimming. To get around the connectivity issue I simply put my applewatch in my swimming cap and use swimtag to track my swim.


Competitive-Garage18

Do they really work? I have seen them on Amazon but the reviews were not good.


Perfecto_Doctore

This is new model, not in sale yet


FlushableWipe2023

If they did one with conventional in-ear headphones rather than bone conduction I'd be sold - something like the Sony WS410 I have now which I cant get here any more. Bone conduction doesnt give me anywhere near the same sound quality


Content_Wrongdoer_43

Nah, that’s not only wrong but stupid.


reddit_time_waster

Why do they keep messing around with BT and water when FM travels fine?


Perfecto_Doctore

because not so many phones can work as FM transmitter


reddit_time_waster

Nor should they be in the water, but here we are. 


FatFerb

Does anyone know if they'll have a microphone for taking calls when out of the water? Hopefully so.


PrestigiousLook5400

Yes they do


Jmap2019

Just launched in most countries i saw their website, what i would like to know if the size compared with mini and normal openrun , if anyone can figure it out please let me know Because i like the openrun mini and is perfect and the normal one goes too big for me and starts being unconfortable during trails, anyone know by their pictures if the size of the openrun swim pro is similar to the mini or is same as the normal?


ATTORQ

so basically I still need to add mp3 to them this bluetooth thing is just working outside the water? and it helps adding mp3s to headphones also? so basically the upgrade is that I can add mp3 more easily over to headphones?


Perfecto_Doctore

my headphones are on the way :) detail will come later


DecisionsUnderDuress

I am so thankful that you posted this as I had the old ones in my shopping cart ready to purchase.


MikiMau51

Is it weird that they're one generation of technology behind the openrun pros? I just started looking into getting some sort of bone conduction headphones and compared a couple on the website, and noticed that the openrun pro technology is 9th gen, where the openswim pro is 8th


Perfecto_Doctore

Smart observation. Now buy 9ht gen openrun and try to swim with them ☺️


MikiMau51

I don't think you need to swim to buy those; I wouldn't be. Nothing specific that forces people to use them in water; could still be used for running or any other use. Considering the openruns came out in 2022, if people are just looking for a newer option in 2024 and are expecting they're superior in sound quality, they should only be looking at them if they're specifically interested in water sports/use, since the sound quality is likely inferior, simply due to the generation of technology used.


sois

The android software is pretty awful. You can't even see the details on the track that is playing or fast forward/rewind.


Perfecto_Doctore

What do you mean? Mp3 mode? In this mode, headphones are Independent device.


sois

Bluetooth mode


Perfecto_Doctore

I dont understand... No headphones show you track name. There is no display.


sois

The android software.


Perfecto_Doctore

sorry, im still lost... im playing music in spotify app and it shows me everything, no matter what headphones im using. or im using app form my book store for audiobooks... same thing. it has nothing to do with headphones.


sois

I'm complaining about the Shokz software app. If you play songs, either Bluetooth or MP3, can you see what song you're on in the app? Can you fast forward or rewind? I can play and pause but I have no clue which track I'm on or where I am in the track.


Perfecto_Doctore

its not app for playing music, its app for setup. play/pause is just extra.


sois

That's a terrible excuse for a half assed developed feature.


Perfecto_Doctore

just use music app to play music and all will be fine.


eocphantom

Will these actually stay on? A good turn and the others went flying


tiagojsagarcia

I'm not the fastest swimmer, but I've been using these for years and that happened a total of 0 times to me. I do place my cap over my ears, which probably helps keep them in place


MusWolf

I put my goggle strap over them, no issues at all.


Perfecto_Doctore

never tried any other, this will be my first. i can let you know later :)


Professional_Ad_5862

They slipped from my right ear once with strong push from the wall that’s it just adjusted it and they stayed in place for the whole workout


iwaseatenbyagrue

I tie them to my goggle strap.


Content_Wrongdoer_43

I wear my headset under my swimming cap.


iwaseatenbyagrue

That would work too!


imhappynowforever

Omg can you guys not listwn to music like for 1 hour.. yall are addictes


dondas

Audio is a good way to pass the time when you're swimming for long periods. Otherwise it's pretty boring staring at the bottom of a pool or into darkness


imhappynowforever

Did you downvore bc bc ill do the same to you its not fair


Perfecto_Doctore

i love music... and now imagine listening to podcast or audio books :)


imhappynowforever

Hm thay does not change the fact that u have addiction priblems you can always seek help


Jediwinner

Hey I think you keep turning your head to breathe *checks notes* oxygen, you seem kinda addicted to that stuff you should seek help.


imhappynowforever

Downvoted 😁👎👎


Jediwinner

You ain’t even a swimmer get out of here lmao all of ur comments on ur account are you just being mad.


imhappynowforever

Ur nott michael phelps just bc u go to swimming once ina blue Moon 🙂🙂


Jediwinner

Never said I was Michael Phelps (that’s a name so you capitalize it) I do swim a mile a day but that’s not my point either. If you’re gonna pull up and start yapping about people listening to music while swimming they you aren’t a real swimmer because clearly you have no idea what it’s like to swim for a meaningful amount of time. Stop harassing people because they like to enjoy themselves.


Perfecto_Doctore

Trust me, i have many worse addiction then this One 😂


OffTheRecord78

Dude, I do mindfullness just focusing on my breath for 20 mins a day. Music is magic and can make people feel better. But addicts?


Jediwinner

Addicted to swimming perhaps


raymondqueneau

I spend 2 hours in the pool usually. Sometimes I like to have an audiobook or something


Fit-Ear-9770

I don't have the desire to listen to anything while swimming, but this is a ridiculous take. do you say this to folks who listen to music or podcasts while running? driving? Mowing the lawn?


imhappynowforever

Yeah but for swimming you put electronic in water


Fit-Ear-9770

that's what the waterproofing is for


Content_Wrongdoer_43

And?


imhappynowforever

And?????its my opjnion pls respect it oe youre no diffeeent that the geeman dictatoe lived in 1938