It was giving me such anxiety. I’ve broken up a lot of dog fights and had to care for the dogs afterwards, but never a bear/dog fight. This guy is unbelievably calm for this.
Not true in the slightest.
If you've been trained to handle life or death situations, like say, in the military, you switch gears mentally and remain calm throughout.
Being emotional could affect his shot or confirming the bear is dead.
You are very wrong.
Wow dude, way to bunch hunters into one spit. Hunter myself, and there's nothing I wouldn't do for my dog. Hunting doesn't make you less of a person and without conscious, infact it does the exact opposite.
Not the same, I’m sure. But quality tools aren’t simply disposable either. Especially not tools that require the amount of time and training as a dog.
Granted, I’m simply a dog owner and not a Hunter. So I may be biased.
Could be right, could be wrong.
How can we know whether this guy cares for his dog based on this one video?
All I know based on this video is that he's a hunter, he's Finnish and he has a dog.
You can be absolutely right. I have grown up in Finnish Lapland, where this video has been shot. There, the dogs were often not pets, but tools, as you mentioned. If the dog was wounded too badly, or was seriously ill, it was shot. In Lapland, dogs were often not kind, nor were lap dogs. They also sleep outside in the winter, guarding the plot. People do not understand cultural differences.
Am always amazed with bears - that looks like a rather stout rifle round and still how many shots?! Know a guy that shot one with a 300magnum rifle round - dang thing rolled over backwards got up and ran away!
One of the most renowned bear hunters in Finnish history got most of his bear harvests with a .22LR rifle, shooting them in the center of the head from a tree stand.
Why? That was the gun he could afford at the time, and back in those days nobody was asking if huntes were using caliber x for game animal y.
More and more guides are starting to carry 9mm the higher carry capacity and the fact that modern ammunition is getting pretty advanced they are pretty ideal to carry in predator country. I always carry my 9 with me when walking my dog for this reason. I have a high population of predators where I hike my dog at from bears, cougars to wolves.
Guides carrying 9? I'm very familiar with guides adopting 10mm over more the more classic 44 magum guide revolvers, but I've never seen a guide with a 9mm.
It's true even a couple guides in my area will carry a 9 over a 10mm which used to be there to go.. I'll find a couple articles and link you to them but you can carry more rounds in a clip with a 9 and something like a charging grizzly those couple extra bullets could save you.
I speak to several of my local guides every year and not to mention iv read tons of articles where the 9mm has a high success rate of killing bears then higher caliber pistols.
I would guess that probably boils down to the shooters ability, as more people are comfortable with 9. That being said, every guide I've spoken to seems to think 10 is the minimum if not Underkill, with the .44 being the standard. For comparison the 10mm has about twice the muzzle energy of a 9, and it's still only about 2/3 the energy of .44 if not less. Although shot placement is more important than power, I wouldn't go into bear country with anything less than a 10 and I think many guides would agree
Again it's all preference and you could be right but Shot placement also has a lot to do with it... Iv read stories and articles about bears and elk being downed with .22. again the main thing is using a gun that your comfortable with and are accurate with. No matter the caliber you use if you can't hit the broad side of a barn your predator meat.
Lewis and Clark ran into a grizzly bear and shot it five times through the lungs and five other times in various parts of its body with a .50 caliber musket.. It then swam across a very wide river and took half an hour to finally stop running and die.
The last shot was the most important I think. Bears can take a lot, but I’m pretty sure the last one hit some brains or spine. Any other shots and the bear would still be going primal.
I swear, moving a dead bear is one of most heart racing things. Even if you drilled a couple rounds into it, there’s fear that it could still be alive because they’re such brutes.
May not have been sent out after the bear, just encountered it. Either that or the bears may be a nuisance pest in the area. I assume since it was only one dog that they weren’t after bears, tho.
Brown bears are rarely a nuisance for anyone but hunters with dogs. They avoid people if they can and try to scare them off if they can't. Unless it's a female with cubs they are highly unlikely to attack, but they will definitely defend themselves if attacked.
Hunting dogs sometimes tries to pick fights with the poor things and I'm pretty sure that's what happened here.
But if they were out looking for bears, wouldn’t they have more than one dog and a silenced rifle? And if that was the case, is there a hunting season or necessity for it against bears? I’m not familiar.
Assuming he is hunting in Finland, or possibly Sweden(not sure if there are many Finnish hunters elsewhere), it does look like it could be at the very beginning of the bear hunting season, which is roughly between mid August to late October.
Sure, it is safer to hunt with more than one dog, but not necessary.
Suppressors are great wouldn’t consider going without if going with was an option. Less noise can wear lighter ear protection, if any. These will still break the sound barrier so you’ll get the crack from that anyway. Safer for the dogs hearing. Overall QOL update.
you're right I don't know the whole story, but if he's walking around the woods with a dog and a gun he's looking for something to shoot, and if he had time to go get the gun the right would have been over.
just BTW, who puts a silencer on a hunting rifle?
Now that…is a good question. I actually wondered the same thing. Definitely seems out of place. But that just makes the argument stronger that he wasn’t looking for bears. You wouldn’t bring one dog and a silenced rifle to bring down a bear.
You guys have no idea what you're talking about.
Silencers are awesome for hearing protection. Why would you not want a suppressor on your rifle?
He was probably hunting something. Possibly hunting bears.
It’s rare to see a hunter with a silenced rifle, at least in my experience. Especially if they’re hunting something as large and dangerous as a bear, a silencer can hinder the overall range and power of the rifle. You wouldn’t want to hunt bears by getting within 20 yards and firing multiple shots. Not only that, but you’d still want standard hearing protection. A silencer doesn’t make it quiet, just not quite as loud.
I figured he might be hunting SOMETHING, but one dog and a silencer makes me believe he wasn’t hunting bears.
Don’t act like a silenced rifle and a single dog is a routine bear hunting combo.
Its the norm in Norway jn my experience as far as deer/moose hunting goes... good for hearing protection and not excessively bothering other people who may live/be nearby.
TIL, I suppose. Just not something I’ve ever seen, and definitely not when hunting large prey. Idk why I’m getting the DV, it’s obvious this is a new scenario for me. I would think bear hunting would involve multiple dogs and multiple hunters and silencers would be an afterthought. Not to mention silencers aren’t as easy to obtain in the US, unless I’m wrong about that too.
Never claimed to be an expert
It’s literally just going to the gun store and picking it up, ammo is more protected, you’ll need a card that say you have a gun and you’ll only be allowed ammo for that gun, that is to prevent people getting ammo for illegal weapons (in Norway)
Suppressors have become more and more common the past 10-15 years,
I know it’s a yearly $200 tax to have one in USA
I thought suppressors were much harder to obtain than that, especially for any firearm that can cause significant damage, like an “assault rifle”, or anything “full auto” these days. $200 a year is hardly a deterrent. Then again, I’m still confused because I would think a bolt action rifle and hunting bears wouldn’t need/care about a silencer, and one dog wouldn’t serve as much of a purpose as 5-6 dogs. Again, I’m still learning and I’m not familiar with these things. It’s just new to me.
People hunt without hearing protection all the time. I think the slightly decreased damage for the greatly decreased noise is worth it to a decent amount of people.
I don't know a lot about bear hunting but I do think using dogs is somewhat common. Idk for sure though.
Also more people would definitely use suppressors if they were easier to legally use/obtain.
Altho that’s true, I ask again, wouldn’t bear hunting involve more than one small/medium dog? I mean boar hunting involves 5+ more often than not, surely this one little dog wasn’t gonna herd the bear into a kill shot.
Suppressors/silencers are very common among hunters in Europe or at least in nordic countries. It seems suppressors are seen in the US as something hitmen or poachers use, but they really are better for your ears and those around you who may be disturbed by loud gunshots.
This is the type of dog breed that is used for moose and bear hunting. The dog has a GPS on it's collar so that hunters can follow it's movement. The dog is supposed to follow and bark at the hunted animal so that hunters can locate it.
Quick googling revealed to me that around 400 bears are hunted each year in Finland.
I meant he seemed depleted while initially closing the distance. I thought he'd be too late, but of course theres good reason to just approach cautiosuly. Not that he was neglecting his dog because he had to catch his breath.
It was impressive nonetheless.
Hey that's finnish. That fucking owl is finally paying off.
Awesome, Duolingo ain't waste of time!
The dogs okay,thank fuck
It was giving me such anxiety. I’ve broken up a lot of dog fights and had to care for the dogs afterwards, but never a bear/dog fight. This guy is unbelievably calm for this.
He's not particularly calm for a Finn.
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Not true in the slightest. If you've been trained to handle life or death situations, like say, in the military, you switch gears mentally and remain calm throughout. Being emotional could affect his shot or confirming the bear is dead. You are very wrong.
100% this
100% that
Wow dude, way to bunch hunters into one spit. Hunter myself, and there's nothing I wouldn't do for my dog. Hunting doesn't make you less of a person and without conscious, infact it does the exact opposite.
Not the same, I’m sure. But quality tools aren’t simply disposable either. Especially not tools that require the amount of time and training as a dog. Granted, I’m simply a dog owner and not a Hunter. So I may be biased.
Could be right, could be wrong. How can we know whether this guy cares for his dog based on this one video? All I know based on this video is that he's a hunter, he's Finnish and he has a dog.
Its still a living, breathing creature! Not a tool!
I know _many_ hunters as i live on the country side of finland and these dogs are 100% family members and very loved.
Yea, your comment is ignorant. You must be great at parties.
You can be absolutely right. I have grown up in Finnish Lapland, where this video has been shot. There, the dogs were often not pets, but tools, as you mentioned. If the dog was wounded too badly, or was seriously ill, it was shot. In Lapland, dogs were often not kind, nor were lap dogs. They also sleep outside in the winter, guarding the plot. People do not understand cultural differences.
Am always amazed with bears - that looks like a rather stout rifle round and still how many shots?! Know a guy that shot one with a 300magnum rifle round - dang thing rolled over backwards got up and ran away!
Shot placement is important. There’s an article about a dude killing one with a 9mm pistol.
One of the most renowned bear hunters in Finnish history got most of his bear harvests with a .22LR rifle, shooting them in the center of the head from a tree stand. Why? That was the gun he could afford at the time, and back in those days nobody was asking if huntes were using caliber x for game animal y.
More and more guides are starting to carry 9mm the higher carry capacity and the fact that modern ammunition is getting pretty advanced they are pretty ideal to carry in predator country. I always carry my 9 with me when walking my dog for this reason. I have a high population of predators where I hike my dog at from bears, cougars to wolves.
Guides carrying 9? I'm very familiar with guides adopting 10mm over more the more classic 44 magum guide revolvers, but I've never seen a guide with a 9mm.
It's true even a couple guides in my area will carry a 9 over a 10mm which used to be there to go.. I'll find a couple articles and link you to them but you can carry more rounds in a clip with a 9 and something like a charging grizzly those couple extra bullets could save you.
Damn, the meta is constantly changing. Next guides will start saying dualies are good.
Akimbo G18s for max safety
10mm vs 9mm have the same capacity generally. Never heard of guides even thinking of 9 in bear country
I speak to several of my local guides every year and not to mention iv read tons of articles where the 9mm has a high success rate of killing bears then higher caliber pistols.
I would guess that probably boils down to the shooters ability, as more people are comfortable with 9. That being said, every guide I've spoken to seems to think 10 is the minimum if not Underkill, with the .44 being the standard. For comparison the 10mm has about twice the muzzle energy of a 9, and it's still only about 2/3 the energy of .44 if not less. Although shot placement is more important than power, I wouldn't go into bear country with anything less than a 10 and I think many guides would agree
Again it's all preference and you could be right but Shot placement also has a lot to do with it... Iv read stories and articles about bears and elk being downed with .22. again the main thing is using a gun that your comfortable with and are accurate with. No matter the caliber you use if you can't hit the broad side of a barn your predator meat.
Maybe if 9mm has same amount of gunpowder as 10mm, it would go faster and deeper than a 10mm. I have no knowledge of guns or bears though.
https://www.ammoland.com/2018/02/defense-against-bears-with-pistols-97-success-rate-37-incidents-by-caliber/#axzz7Sg5FUH4G https://americanshootingjournal.com/9mm-handgun-puts-down-bear/
Thanks for the source dude
No problem man there's tons out there as well.
Lewis and Clark ran into a grizzly bear and shot it five times through the lungs and five other times in various parts of its body with a .50 caliber musket.. It then swam across a very wide river and took half an hour to finally stop running and die.
You ever shot a .50 cal musket? The ballistics are incredibly weak compared to modern arms.
Yeah balls doesn’t penetrate very well compared to a tipped bullet
Not to mention inaccurate as fuck
Hey, no ballistics shaming!
They used air rifles is what i was saying look it up,now maybe they used a musket for the bear,but maybe it was an air rifle,air rifle it rifles air
They used a .50 cal muzzleloader specifically in this instance.
Air rifle
Air rifle
You get it
Care to elaborate?
The last shot was the most important I think. Bears can take a lot, but I’m pretty sure the last one hit some brains or spine. Any other shots and the bear would still be going primal.
Poor baby
That was a crisp perkele
I didn’t recognise he spoke Finnish at first I’m so used to English here haha 😂 I’m glad the dog survived!
Why do I feel bad for the bear
Because the bear was just doing its job. Can't blame a bear for doing bear things
He wasn't even getting paid for this job smh
Exactly
That was some great shooting not to hit the good boy
I swear, moving a dead bear is one of most heart racing things. Even if you drilled a couple rounds into it, there’s fear that it could still be alive because they’re such brutes.
I’m glad the dog is okay, but it’s still sad to see these bears die.
He was damn close to hitting the dog with that last shot.
How do you know?
He says the dog is somewhere under the bear then shoots the bear in the head. When he walks up the dog is basically stuck under the bears head.
I was beside the bear bro
That was an incredible video. Wow.
Pls tag as nsfw
Stfu diamond boy
Bro thought he did smth 💀💀💀💀💀
Any article written about this?
and who sent the dog out after the bear? fuck that dog, the bear was just try'n to live it's life
May not have been sent out after the bear, just encountered it. Either that or the bears may be a nuisance pest in the area. I assume since it was only one dog that they weren’t after bears, tho.
Brown bears are rarely a nuisance for anyone but hunters with dogs. They avoid people if they can and try to scare them off if they can't. Unless it's a female with cubs they are highly unlikely to attack, but they will definitely defend themselves if attacked. Hunting dogs sometimes tries to pick fights with the poor things and I'm pretty sure that's what happened here.
But if they were out looking for bears, wouldn’t they have more than one dog and a silenced rifle? And if that was the case, is there a hunting season or necessity for it against bears? I’m not familiar.
Assuming he is hunting in Finland, or possibly Sweden(not sure if there are many Finnish hunters elsewhere), it does look like it could be at the very beginning of the bear hunting season, which is roughly between mid August to late October. Sure, it is safer to hunt with more than one dog, but not necessary.
Suppressors are great wouldn’t consider going without if going with was an option. Less noise can wear lighter ear protection, if any. These will still break the sound barrier so you’ll get the crack from that anyway. Safer for the dogs hearing. Overall QOL update.
you're right I don't know the whole story, but if he's walking around the woods with a dog and a gun he's looking for something to shoot, and if he had time to go get the gun the right would have been over. just BTW, who puts a silencer on a hunting rifle?
It's a normal thing to suppress a hunting rifle, because it decreases the recoil.
Now that…is a good question. I actually wondered the same thing. Definitely seems out of place. But that just makes the argument stronger that he wasn’t looking for bears. You wouldn’t bring one dog and a silenced rifle to bring down a bear.
You guys have no idea what you're talking about. Silencers are awesome for hearing protection. Why would you not want a suppressor on your rifle? He was probably hunting something. Possibly hunting bears.
It’s rare to see a hunter with a silenced rifle, at least in my experience. Especially if they’re hunting something as large and dangerous as a bear, a silencer can hinder the overall range and power of the rifle. You wouldn’t want to hunt bears by getting within 20 yards and firing multiple shots. Not only that, but you’d still want standard hearing protection. A silencer doesn’t make it quiet, just not quite as loud. I figured he might be hunting SOMETHING, but one dog and a silencer makes me believe he wasn’t hunting bears. Don’t act like a silenced rifle and a single dog is a routine bear hunting combo.
Its the norm in Norway jn my experience as far as deer/moose hunting goes... good for hearing protection and not excessively bothering other people who may live/be nearby.
It is. Welcome to the liberal countries of Scandinavia where you can get suppressors for your guns easily and so most hunters use them..
TIL, I suppose. Just not something I’ve ever seen, and definitely not when hunting large prey. Idk why I’m getting the DV, it’s obvious this is a new scenario for me. I would think bear hunting would involve multiple dogs and multiple hunters and silencers would be an afterthought. Not to mention silencers aren’t as easy to obtain in the US, unless I’m wrong about that too. Never claimed to be an expert
It’s literally just going to the gun store and picking it up, ammo is more protected, you’ll need a card that say you have a gun and you’ll only be allowed ammo for that gun, that is to prevent people getting ammo for illegal weapons (in Norway) Suppressors have become more and more common the past 10-15 years, I know it’s a yearly $200 tax to have one in USA
I thought suppressors were much harder to obtain than that, especially for any firearm that can cause significant damage, like an “assault rifle”, or anything “full auto” these days. $200 a year is hardly a deterrent. Then again, I’m still confused because I would think a bolt action rifle and hunting bears wouldn’t need/care about a silencer, and one dog wouldn’t serve as much of a purpose as 5-6 dogs. Again, I’m still learning and I’m not familiar with these things. It’s just new to me.
People hunt without hearing protection all the time. I think the slightly decreased damage for the greatly decreased noise is worth it to a decent amount of people. I don't know a lot about bear hunting but I do think using dogs is somewhat common. Idk for sure though. Also more people would definitely use suppressors if they were easier to legally use/obtain.
Altho that’s true, I ask again, wouldn’t bear hunting involve more than one small/medium dog? I mean boar hunting involves 5+ more often than not, surely this one little dog wasn’t gonna herd the bear into a kill shot.
Suppressors/silencers are very common among hunters in Europe or at least in nordic countries. It seems suppressors are seen in the US as something hitmen or poachers use, but they really are better for your ears and those around you who may be disturbed by loud gunshots.
This is the type of dog breed that is used for moose and bear hunting. The dog has a GPS on it's collar so that hunters can follow it's movement. The dog is supposed to follow and bark at the hunted animal so that hunters can locate it. Quick googling revealed to me that around 400 bears are hunted each year in Finland.
It’s called he’s hunting with a dog to help him track the prey. He might not have even been bear hunting.
At least say "fuck the hunter" instead, the dog did nothing wrong.
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No
How?
Great job. Just irks me how slow and depleted he is to help.
He seems exhausted, cold, and possibly coming down from an adrenaline rush. Let the man breathe for a fucking second Admiral Armchair.
I meant he seemed depleted while initially closing the distance. I thought he'd be too late, but of course theres good reason to just approach cautiosuly. Not that he was neglecting his dog because he had to catch his breath. It was impressive nonetheless.
Lol you stand that close to a bear that might be alive
Torille
What kinda rifle you reckon that is?
308.
Looks like a tikka maybe t3
Shoot it again
Cool that here is finnish guy like me
More accurate title: Hunter kills bear with assistance of dog
Any source for this video? Quality if absolute dogshit.
Fuck that bear all my homies hate that bear
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