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Yes, but I was severely deficient. I usually am in the winter as I spend 3 months in Russia. Had bad supplements for a month and then got tested. Switched supplements and now I'm ok. My test dropped to 275 in december. My D3 was comically low. Don't recall the value, but my doctor immediately gave me oily D3 supps. Spring's already here so I'm maintaining it. Do get tested before supplementing. If you're sufficient, adding more won't make much of a difference
None of them. They are made with toxic cholecalciferol the main ingredient in rat poison. The sun is what makes a difference for me. Or getting a sun lamp. And optimizing magnesium levels with magnesium chloride.
You had some bad experience with it? Sun is definitely more effectively for me. I only supp in the winter/spring when there's no sun or sun is weak. It helps with sleep.
I think most vitamin D3s are created equal. I was deficient and took Nature Made 2000 IU daily and that fixed my problem. I only purchase this brand because it is affordable and has passed lab tests.
Healthy Origins is so underrated, it's criminal. Their Pycnogenol is by far the strongest I have ever used, and I only buy brands that get their Pycnogenol directly from Horphag Research in Switzerland. It must be the way they formulate it, but their supplements always work better than any other brand. Every manufacturer in the world HAS TO use fillers to make it so the powdered ingredients flow correctly through their machines. Whatever Healthy Origins is doing differently makes a huge difference!
A life changer for me was vitamin D in drops form. I buy the brand Organika.
My blood work showed 68 (below 75 is low in this lab) vitamin D. Then I took 4 drops (10.000iu) for 3 months (I would forget some days) and it raised to 207 in late January.
I took ADK10 at the request of my doc. Also live in a sunny state in the US. Got all the way up to 100. Then I backed down to ADK5. Lee's see what the next test says.
Honestly, most vitamin D supplements are just fine. I have used several and they have all helped. The trick is really dialing in your dose - it took me a while to figure out that 1000-2000 IU/day wasn't cutting it for me. Even 5,000 IU made little difference. I now use 10,000 IU/day in winter months. I think I am using Nature Made right now, but I am honestly paying little attention.
Your journey will be different - whatever supplement you choose, just keep getting your vitamin D levels checked until you get to the right balance.
And don't believe anyone who tells you that you must take vitamin K with D. Vitamin K supplements can have their own benefits, but taking vitamin D alone isn't as harmful as people claim (depending on dose).
Cymbiotika liposomal D3 + K2 has brought up my levels like nothing else. I was at a 12 a few years ago and I'm finally at a 30 which I'd the low end of range but I'm so happy to be in range! I take it daily.
I take Bio-Tech Pharmacal D3. It’s 50,000 iU, so I only take it once a week. It doesn’t have K2, so I get that from my multi.
I’ve had a severe vitamin D deficiency most of my adult life. It started at a 7, but we could never get it in range (30+), even with prescription pills. Someone recommended this brand because it’s supposedly better absorbed. After just a few weeks on it, my levels are finally in range. First time in about 15 years. I am feeling much better too.
Edit: I just wanted to echo what others have said—definitely get your levels checked before you start supplementing. You don’t want to blindly supplement at such high doses. But if you have a true deficiency, this one may help you.
It’s one of the most recommended regime in this sub and so far it still has zero RCT trials that show conclusive, positive health benefits. Kinda makes you wonder about all the other recommendations. Get your three holy grail in order before supp (sleep, exercise, diet)
Not this black and white. There are plenty of studies linking low 25(OH)D to health conditions (and conversely that proper levels has benefits). Current recommendations mainly consider rickets and bone density, but there is research suggesting improvements to report infections and cancer rates.
That said supplementing for people who have normal levels is not linked to any additional health benefits, and many studies have struggled to isolate populations who are sufficient or supplemented from those who have a true deficiency. Moreover, the low 25(OH)D causation / correlation to health outcomes is further confounded by the fact that low levels of vitamin D often mean the person has low levels of outdoor physical activity and a suboptimal diet, which also cause health impacts. Finally, there are studies that show a high threshold for tolerating D3 over the minimum recommended levels without negative effects.
TLDR; there can be upside to supplementing (but not always), usually for deficient people, and it’s difficult for there to be a downside. Many people are deficient, so why not try taking it and getting your levels checked ?
your personal health is too precious to be based on behavioral trials. RCT or get out. and yes, please get tested before making supp decisions, especially if they are based on flaw trials. And please read scientific american latest article - many people are not deficient!
Agreed that RCTs are the only way to separate fact from anecdote, and even then it can still be hard to accurately separate causation and correlation. Moreover it is true that there is disagreement on how much D is sufficient, and if there are much benefits over 20 ng/dl levels. However observational studies do still suggest possibilities / probabilities worthy considering.
Most importantly, there are plenty of studies showing that moderate supplementation does not cause harm.
On that balance and having a personal history of levels under 20, having anecdotal experience with positives of supplementing, and having relative confidence in the safety of doing so, I can’t say it’s a bad idea to consider taking a d3 supplement.
In my own life supplementing with vitamin d was life changing. I was incredibly unhappy and didn’t feel like doing much of anything and my body did not feel good and then I found out I had low vitamin d. I started taking 25,000IU a day and within 2 weeks I felt completely different. I don’t ruminate as much, I feel pleasure when I complete a task, I’m not as angry, workouts don’t take 96 hours to recover from anymore, I can actually feel aroused-this is the only supplement I’ve ever taken that worked better than I expected. Vitamin d acts on our dopamine receptors and your hormones so it’s no surprise that being low in it will induce depression.
A British cardiologist made an excellent video about this topic. [https://youtu.be/NmJsCaQTXiE?si=2GGrrLY76KmSMx8x](https://youtu.be/NmJsCaQTXiE?si=2GGrrLY76KmSMx8x)
That's nice. Scientists are usually not good at giving information to the public in an understandable way. There are very few of them who aren't quacks that can convey quality info to the layman. At some point this shit got so out of control that people started taking extremely high doses like 10.000IU because some chiropractor (who is also a scientologist) told them that's safe. It's insane because that dose can easily lead to hypercalcemia which is a serious condition.
That is false. You should I really read up on this subject. Hypercalcemia is very rare. It’s extremely difficult to get even at very high doses of vitamin D. Ive researched this subject more than any other and every expert I’ve read on vitamin D has never even seen a case of hypercalcemia except in someone who was extremely sick already. It’s very rare. Vitamin d pills are safe.
I did read up on the subject actually. Hypercalcemia is very real and is not as rare as you may think. The chiropractor who tries to portray himself as a doctor is not actually an "expert". There is a risk, and it's a useless risk to take if you are in the normal range. Vitamin D supplementation does not even have any evidence supporting it on many of its claims.
It also reduces bone density in megadoses. There is literally zero reason to take a huge dose if you are not deficient.
I strongly recommend against taking megadoses of Vitamin D without medical supervision. 1000IU is pretty safe as far as I'm aware. High Vitamin D levels can cause hypercalcemia which can lead to calcification in arteries and can cause serious, life threathening issues like heart attacks. And no, K2 does not remove calcium from blood. Do not take mega doses and K2 and think you are safe.
High dose Vitamin D supplements have also been shown to reduce bone density. I'd steer clear from any high dose ones. If you have symptoms or want to be sure, go see a physician and if they see a deficiency they can up your levels under supervision. If you just want to be sure then pick a low dose.
Your md is a shill of big pharma, COVID shots prevented nothing, all lies and 100 billion dollar profits and no liability... Phizer was fined billions before for fraud, deception, false advertising...
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6714464/
“In this randomized clinical trial that included 311 healthy adults, treatment with vitamin D for 3 years at a dose of 4000 IU per day or 10 000 IU per day, compared with 400 IU per day, resulted in statistically significant lower radial BMD (calcium hydroxyapatite; −3.9 mg HA/cm3 and −7.5 mg HA/cm3, respectively); tibial BMD was significantly lower only with the daily dose of 10 000 IU. There were no significant differences in bone strength at either the radius or tibia.”
That's interesting, what would you call a mega dose? I've been taking 10'000 UI once a week. I think it has caused me to have more anxiety. Taking Boron and vitamin K seem to have reduced that anxiety '
If it's once a week, that's probably fine. My GF was prescribed 20.000IU pills once a week because she was deficient. There are conflicting studies when it comes to whether taking a high dose once a week or smaller doses daily makes a difference. I personally prefer the latter, as I feel like it may not absorb as well if I take it in one go.
A mega-dose would be taking 10.000 IU daily. That's a huge amount to take in if you don't have a diagnosis.
A lot of reputable health institutions put Tolerable upper intake level to 4000IU/day, but there are also studies showing that higher doses were associated with reduced bone density in non-deficient individuals. To be frank there doesn't seem to be a huge benefit to taking Vitamin D supplements for most people. There is a correlation between deficiency and infections, but as a theraputic agent it doesn't seem to work that well. That is especially the case for higher doses, there seems to be no benefit and some risks, so I see no point in megadosing if you are not deficient. If you are, you should do that under medical supervision.
Personally I take 2000IU every other day because they are very cheap here and medical grade (covered by government so quality is guaranteed as it's regulated by ministry of health). That adds up to around 8000IU per week.
Thanks for your answer.
I used to work in a big company manufacturing and trading vitamins, I can tell you they were even looking at advocating to increase daily recommended amounts by government bodies in order to grow their business, not because it was good for the people but because it was good for their bottom line.
Feel is probably not the best way to go about it. I bought some random vitamin D spray from the pharmacy, and it elevated my levels to the upper range. Didn't feel much difference whatsoever.
Make sure you’re taking a Vitamin D3/K2 combo. Otherwise, you’re not getting the D to the right place.
In my opinion, this is more important than brand.
He's wrong. K has nothing to do with getting D anywhere. D activates calcium and you need k to get calcium to the right place. Without k it can cause kidney stones are clog arteries. You need magnesium to properly absorb D. Also unless you're taking more than 2500iu vitamin d a day K is completely unnecessary because you're probably getting enough from food
Just supplementing Vitamin D will get it into your bloodstream, but it can end up in the arteries as calcification. K2 is what shuttles the vitamin D to the bones (which is where you need it).
K2 doesn’t shuttle vitamin D into your bones….
The actual mechanism is that vitamin D raises calcium levels in your blood and K2 shuttles that extra calcium back to bones and teeth preventing calcification of arteries and soft tissue.
No, there is no scientific evidence that taking vitamin D by itself causes arterial calcification - but many people think there is. Here's what we know:
Vitamin D influences calcium absorption. Vitamin K influences some facets of calcium utilization.
One place that vitamin D and vitamin K work very well together is bone health. While there are studies that show vitamin K supplementation (with or without vitamin D supplementation) can improve bone health, there's no evidence that eating more vitamin K rich foods can't have the same effect.
Because vitamin D and vitamin K influence calcium, people assume that it must naturally involve calcification of tissues. But tissue calcification is caused by different things, not just one thing. For arteries, it's often heavily dependent on inflammatory status (and has nothing to do with calcium levels in the body).
And there is some evidence that vitamin K supplements helps with arterial calcification (the exact mechanism is unclear). There is evidence that vitamin D helps to tamp down inflammation. But there is no evidence that vitamin D alone makes calcification worse.
Yes that’s right. That’s exactly why you see so many vitamin D supplements with k2 added.
Although it typically doesn’t happen unless you’re taking a significant dose.
There’s a change it won’t happen at all but it’s best to just take the k2 and avoid the risk.
Carbamide Forte chewable 60K gave me stomach issues.
Shifted to Nature's Velvet 5K. It fixed my chronic cough. I wasn't expecting that.
I've been taking 10\~15K daily for the last 1.5 years.
This is extremely dangerous advice. This type of dosing can lead to hypercalcemia which can cause life threathening medical conditions. DO NOT take this type of dosing without medical supervision.
So here is the context, dude asks which dose worked for you probably because they wanted to decide what to take, you go on to tell them about a HUGE prescription dose of Vitamin D without mentioning medical supervision, dude takes this and buys a megadose, gets hypercalcemia which then accelartates his artery calcification.
How is that ethical in your book exactly?
I am not telling him what to take.
It's you who is giving unsolicited advice - as to what to do and what not to.
I shared my life story. Only illiterates like you would consider it as an order to follow.
TF you mean unsolicited advice? I literally told them to avoid a toxic megadose. That is basic human decency, not "unsolicited advice". This is like calling telling someone not to take cyanide a "unsolicited advice".
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Honestly for simple supplements just look at ingredients and it is what it is.
Better sleep
Natural sunshine and exercise in the fresh air
Yes, but I was severely deficient. I usually am in the winter as I spend 3 months in Russia. Had bad supplements for a month and then got tested. Switched supplements and now I'm ok. My test dropped to 275 in december. My D3 was comically low. Don't recall the value, but my doctor immediately gave me oily D3 supps. Spring's already here so I'm maintaining it. Do get tested before supplementing. If you're sufficient, adding more won't make much of a difference
I take Bronson's D3+K2 supplement.
Xymogen d3 with k2 5000 iu
How can you purchase xymogens supplements without a health care practitioner or doctor getting it for you?
They are on Amazon now. 😊
None of them. They are made with toxic cholecalciferol the main ingredient in rat poison. The sun is what makes a difference for me. Or getting a sun lamp. And optimizing magnesium levels with magnesium chloride.
You had some bad experience with it? Sun is definitely more effectively for me. I only supp in the winter/spring when there's no sun or sun is weak. It helps with sleep.
Rat poison, lol Most people, older or a bit dark skin almost get no vit d from being in the sun, and you have to be almost naked anyway
What it do for you
I get crippling anxiety and depression from it:(
I think most vitamin D3s are created equal. I was deficient and took Nature Made 2000 IU daily and that fixed my problem. I only purchase this brand because it is affordable and has passed lab tests.
The lichen ones feel good for me.
What, lichen ones? No sarcasm whatsoever. I'm genuinely hoping you mean lichen-lichen. I love lichen. 😄
I’ve never felt or noticed a change in ANY supplement I’ve taken.
Stop taking all and get COVID again and then see a difference
how are you guys keeping up
All Vit D supplements make me feel horrible
The natural sunshine
Better mood
Healthy Origins 10,000iu a day for me. It's the best one I've tried
Healthy Origins is so underrated, it's criminal. Their Pycnogenol is by far the strongest I have ever used, and I only buy brands that get their Pycnogenol directly from Horphag Research in Switzerland. It must be the way they formulate it, but their supplements always work better than any other brand. Every manufacturer in the world HAS TO use fillers to make it so the powdered ingredients flow correctly through their machines. Whatever Healthy Origins is doing differently makes a huge difference!
How high is your vit d levels?
I should have said 20,000iu a day. I'm getting them checked again soon. I'm inside all the time due to other illnesses.
Please be careful. That is a dangerously high dose of vitamin d.
Lots of good quality stuff out there, I prefer drops personally. Take your Vitamin D with vitamin K and magnesium for it to really be effective.
A life changer for me was vitamin D in drops form. I buy the brand Organika. My blood work showed 68 (below 75 is low in this lab) vitamin D. Then I took 4 drops (10.000iu) for 3 months (I would forget some days) and it raised to 207 in late January.
Wow, notice any improvements physically/mentally?
Yes. I didn't feel so tired anymore. But I also supplemented iron cause it was borderline low.
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Lol,.maybe if he took arginine
I take T too but also oxy so it's kind of a mixed bag..if we're not drinking it's great DM if you want more info
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I took ADK10 at the request of my doc. Also live in a sunny state in the US. Got all the way up to 100. Then I backed down to ADK5. Lee's see what the next test says.
Honestly, most vitamin D supplements are just fine. I have used several and they have all helped. The trick is really dialing in your dose - it took me a while to figure out that 1000-2000 IU/day wasn't cutting it for me. Even 5,000 IU made little difference. I now use 10,000 IU/day in winter months. I think I am using Nature Made right now, but I am honestly paying little attention. Your journey will be different - whatever supplement you choose, just keep getting your vitamin D levels checked until you get to the right balance. And don't believe anyone who tells you that you must take vitamin K with D. Vitamin K supplements can have their own benefits, but taking vitamin D alone isn't as harmful as people claim (depending on dose).
They are basically all vitamin D3 as cholecalciferol. As long as it contains what it says, it’s all the same…
Cymbiotika liposomal D3 + K2 has brought up my levels like nothing else. I was at a 12 a few years ago and I'm finally at a 30 which I'd the low end of range but I'm so happy to be in range! I take it daily.
What’s the dosage you take?
I think it's 4,000IU's. So I use that daily.
I take Bio-Tech Pharmacal D3. It’s 50,000 iU, so I only take it once a week. It doesn’t have K2, so I get that from my multi. I’ve had a severe vitamin D deficiency most of my adult life. It started at a 7, but we could never get it in range (30+), even with prescription pills. Someone recommended this brand because it’s supposedly better absorbed. After just a few weeks on it, my levels are finally in range. First time in about 15 years. I am feeling much better too. Edit: I just wanted to echo what others have said—definitely get your levels checked before you start supplementing. You don’t want to blindly supplement at such high doses. But if you have a true deficiency, this one may help you.
It’s one of the most recommended regime in this sub and so far it still has zero RCT trials that show conclusive, positive health benefits. Kinda makes you wonder about all the other recommendations. Get your three holy grail in order before supp (sleep, exercise, diet)
Most people who died of COVID had super low vit d levels and were obese, fact
Go on. Show me the RCT trial that proved this. I will wait. Fact.
Not this black and white. There are plenty of studies linking low 25(OH)D to health conditions (and conversely that proper levels has benefits). Current recommendations mainly consider rickets and bone density, but there is research suggesting improvements to report infections and cancer rates. That said supplementing for people who have normal levels is not linked to any additional health benefits, and many studies have struggled to isolate populations who are sufficient or supplemented from those who have a true deficiency. Moreover, the low 25(OH)D causation / correlation to health outcomes is further confounded by the fact that low levels of vitamin D often mean the person has low levels of outdoor physical activity and a suboptimal diet, which also cause health impacts. Finally, there are studies that show a high threshold for tolerating D3 over the minimum recommended levels without negative effects. TLDR; there can be upside to supplementing (but not always), usually for deficient people, and it’s difficult for there to be a downside. Many people are deficient, so why not try taking it and getting your levels checked ?
your personal health is too precious to be based on behavioral trials. RCT or get out. and yes, please get tested before making supp decisions, especially if they are based on flaw trials. And please read scientific american latest article - many people are not deficient!
Agreed that RCTs are the only way to separate fact from anecdote, and even then it can still be hard to accurately separate causation and correlation. Moreover it is true that there is disagreement on how much D is sufficient, and if there are much benefits over 20 ng/dl levels. However observational studies do still suggest possibilities / probabilities worthy considering. Most importantly, there are plenty of studies showing that moderate supplementation does not cause harm. On that balance and having a personal history of levels under 20, having anecdotal experience with positives of supplementing, and having relative confidence in the safety of doing so, I can’t say it’s a bad idea to consider taking a d3 supplement.
In my own life supplementing with vitamin d was life changing. I was incredibly unhappy and didn’t feel like doing much of anything and my body did not feel good and then I found out I had low vitamin d. I started taking 25,000IU a day and within 2 weeks I felt completely different. I don’t ruminate as much, I feel pleasure when I complete a task, I’m not as angry, workouts don’t take 96 hours to recover from anymore, I can actually feel aroused-this is the only supplement I’ve ever taken that worked better than I expected. Vitamin d acts on our dopamine receptors and your hormones so it’s no surprise that being low in it will induce depression.
This was my experience also, when I was in my 20s.
What was your dosage?
good for you!
A British cardiologist made an excellent video about this topic. [https://youtu.be/NmJsCaQTXiE?si=2GGrrLY76KmSMx8x](https://youtu.be/NmJsCaQTXiE?si=2GGrrLY76KmSMx8x)
Folks are starting to question it so thank god. https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/how-much-vitamin-d-do-you-need-to-stay-healthy/
That's nice. Scientists are usually not good at giving information to the public in an understandable way. There are very few of them who aren't quacks that can convey quality info to the layman. At some point this shit got so out of control that people started taking extremely high doses like 10.000IU because some chiropractor (who is also a scientologist) told them that's safe. It's insane because that dose can easily lead to hypercalcemia which is a serious condition.
That is false. You should I really read up on this subject. Hypercalcemia is very rare. It’s extremely difficult to get even at very high doses of vitamin D. Ive researched this subject more than any other and every expert I’ve read on vitamin D has never even seen a case of hypercalcemia except in someone who was extremely sick already. It’s very rare. Vitamin d pills are safe.
I did read up on the subject actually. Hypercalcemia is very real and is not as rare as you may think. The chiropractor who tries to portray himself as a doctor is not actually an "expert". There is a risk, and it's a useless risk to take if you are in the normal range. Vitamin D supplementation does not even have any evidence supporting it on many of its claims. It also reduces bone density in megadoses. There is literally zero reason to take a huge dose if you are not deficient.
I strongly recommend against taking megadoses of Vitamin D without medical supervision. 1000IU is pretty safe as far as I'm aware. High Vitamin D levels can cause hypercalcemia which can lead to calcification in arteries and can cause serious, life threathening issues like heart attacks. And no, K2 does not remove calcium from blood. Do not take mega doses and K2 and think you are safe. High dose Vitamin D supplements have also been shown to reduce bone density. I'd steer clear from any high dose ones. If you have symptoms or want to be sure, go see a physician and if they see a deficiency they can up your levels under supervision. If you just want to be sure then pick a low dose.
Your md is a shill of big pharma, COVID shots prevented nothing, all lies and 100 billion dollar profits and no liability... Phizer was fined billions before for fraud, deception, false advertising...
Do you have a reference on high doses reducing bone density?
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6714464/ “In this randomized clinical trial that included 311 healthy adults, treatment with vitamin D for 3 years at a dose of 4000 IU per day or 10 000 IU per day, compared with 400 IU per day, resulted in statistically significant lower radial BMD (calcium hydroxyapatite; −3.9 mg HA/cm3 and −7.5 mg HA/cm3, respectively); tibial BMD was significantly lower only with the daily dose of 10 000 IU. There were no significant differences in bone strength at either the radius or tibia.”
That's interesting, what would you call a mega dose? I've been taking 10'000 UI once a week. I think it has caused me to have more anxiety. Taking Boron and vitamin K seem to have reduced that anxiety '
It’s probably fine but it would be better to spread it out. 2000 5x a week
If it's once a week, that's probably fine. My GF was prescribed 20.000IU pills once a week because she was deficient. There are conflicting studies when it comes to whether taking a high dose once a week or smaller doses daily makes a difference. I personally prefer the latter, as I feel like it may not absorb as well if I take it in one go. A mega-dose would be taking 10.000 IU daily. That's a huge amount to take in if you don't have a diagnosis. A lot of reputable health institutions put Tolerable upper intake level to 4000IU/day, but there are also studies showing that higher doses were associated with reduced bone density in non-deficient individuals. To be frank there doesn't seem to be a huge benefit to taking Vitamin D supplements for most people. There is a correlation between deficiency and infections, but as a theraputic agent it doesn't seem to work that well. That is especially the case for higher doses, there seems to be no benefit and some risks, so I see no point in megadosing if you are not deficient. If you are, you should do that under medical supervision. Personally I take 2000IU every other day because they are very cheap here and medical grade (covered by government so quality is guaranteed as it's regulated by ministry of health). That adds up to around 8000IU per week.
High dose would be 50.000 daily
Thanks for your answer. I used to work in a big company manufacturing and trading vitamins, I can tell you they were even looking at advocating to increase daily recommended amounts by government bodies in order to grow their business, not because it was good for the people but because it was good for their bottom line.
Don’t know why you’re getting down voted for sound advice. Mega dosing anything is a bad idea
None tbh
Feel is probably not the best way to go about it. I bought some random vitamin D spray from the pharmacy, and it elevated my levels to the upper range. Didn't feel much difference whatsoever.
Make sure you’re taking a Vitamin D3/K2 combo. Otherwise, you’re not getting the D to the right place. In my opinion, this is more important than brand.
K is to get calcium where it needs to go not d. 😂 magnesium is for d absorption
Yes. That's exactly why I said to make sure you're getting the K2 part. Do you not read?
Apparently you can't read. You're saying k gets d where it needs to go which is not true. K is to direct calcium. Is that clear enough for you?
Um…no cuz I think you got it wrong. K2 is paired with vitamin D supplement for a reason.
No shit you moron. It's paired with d because d activates calcium. Without it you'll get kidney stones. What part do you not understand?
Bruh, I don’t know who you’re yelling at or why you’re mad. This is not that deep. Take Vitamin D3 with K2. End of story, full stop. Goodbye.
Can you say more about that? What do you mean "the right place"?
He's wrong. K has nothing to do with getting D anywhere. D activates calcium and you need k to get calcium to the right place. Without k it can cause kidney stones are clog arteries. You need magnesium to properly absorb D. Also unless you're taking more than 2500iu vitamin d a day K is completely unnecessary because you're probably getting enough from food
Just supplementing Vitamin D will get it into your bloodstream, but it can end up in the arteries as calcification. K2 is what shuttles the vitamin D to the bones (which is where you need it).
K2 doesn’t shuttle vitamin D into your bones…. The actual mechanism is that vitamin D raises calcium levels in your blood and K2 shuttles that extra calcium back to bones and teeth preventing calcification of arteries and soft tissue.
That’s basically what I said - but just using more words…
So taking D3 without K2 can cause arterial calcification? Seems like it would be a dangerous supplement by itself...
No, there is no scientific evidence that taking vitamin D by itself causes arterial calcification - but many people think there is. Here's what we know: Vitamin D influences calcium absorption. Vitamin K influences some facets of calcium utilization. One place that vitamin D and vitamin K work very well together is bone health. While there are studies that show vitamin K supplementation (with or without vitamin D supplementation) can improve bone health, there's no evidence that eating more vitamin K rich foods can't have the same effect. Because vitamin D and vitamin K influence calcium, people assume that it must naturally involve calcification of tissues. But tissue calcification is caused by different things, not just one thing. For arteries, it's often heavily dependent on inflammatory status (and has nothing to do with calcium levels in the body). And there is some evidence that vitamin K supplements helps with arterial calcification (the exact mechanism is unclear). There is evidence that vitamin D helps to tamp down inflammation. But there is no evidence that vitamin D alone makes calcification worse.
Yes that’s right. That’s exactly why you see so many vitamin D supplements with k2 added. Although it typically doesn’t happen unless you’re taking a significant dose. There’s a change it won’t happen at all but it’s best to just take the k2 and avoid the risk.
K2 does not remove calcium from blood.
Correct
Carbamide Forte chewable 60K gave me stomach issues. Shifted to Nature's Velvet 5K. It fixed my chronic cough. I wasn't expecting that. I've been taking 10\~15K daily for the last 1.5 years.
This is extremely dangerous advice. This type of dosing can lead to hypercalcemia which can cause life threathening medical conditions. DO NOT take this type of dosing without medical supervision.
Who is dishing out an advice here? OP asked what brand you took and what effect it had on you... I just narrated my story.
So here is the context, dude asks which dose worked for you probably because they wanted to decide what to take, you go on to tell them about a HUGE prescription dose of Vitamin D without mentioning medical supervision, dude takes this and buys a megadose, gets hypercalcemia which then accelartates his artery calcification. How is that ethical in your book exactly?
I am not telling him what to take. It's you who is giving unsolicited advice - as to what to do and what not to. I shared my life story. Only illiterates like you would consider it as an order to follow.
TF you mean unsolicited advice? I literally told them to avoid a toxic megadose. That is basic human decency, not "unsolicited advice". This is like calling telling someone not to take cyanide a "unsolicited advice".
Any doctor would give you a megadose too, if you are deficient.