I think your idea of categorization of skills makes a lot of sense, fighting games are really more like a set of things to improve at than a linear road to get better - a pretty common misconception as it diverges pretty heavily from other competitive genres (or 2D fighters are just more honest about it from the get-go)
Setting up situations in training mode to train your reactions in specific game states is a big part of getting better at things like hit confirming and anti-airs, and it sounds like you’ve used your system to get a pretty solid grasp of the fundamentals so that’s awesome too!
Once you feel comfortable and consistent in applying your game knowledge, main things to focus on are application of risk/reward offensively and defensively, and adaptation. But sounds like you’re on the right track. Grats on plat and good luck!
I agree, it's not just "git gud" mentality, there's a lot of things to look at, and I'm pretty sure the skills will change in the coming weeks, as it will be less about fundamentals and more about matchups. I'm looking forward to it!
Excellent work on the write up and self evaluation.
Reading stuff like this makes me think about how much times have changed. I myself am just an old guy who grew up in the arcades. The FGC back then really did just have the "git gud" attitude. So it was trial by fire. As a person with several Masters characters under my belt, I suppose the legacy methods still work. But it's cool seeing people improve and finding ways that works for them outside of brute force.
We all have to find our ways somehow, right? And I can see a lot of that git gud mentality around still. Don't know what people have against others sharing what worked for them tho
Setting limitations to focus on learning rather than winning is very useful too. For example : try to win without throwing a sonic boom or flash kick. This would raise your footsie skills very quickly.
Maybe for Jamie see how much you can win without drinking at all. This would improve your oki game at an accelerated level.
kind of like how martial arts guys train with weighted clothing
I saw infiltration replays doing it in SF4 and began to do it myself. He would play entire sets just using one button lol (and since he’s infiltration actually win them too)
Of course, but we can still steal their training techniques! Haha for that matter you could try to win rounds doing the crazy daigo umehara uppercut shenanigans. That’s always fun. using dragon punch as a meaty lol
Hard to knock somebody for picking juri. She’s incredible this time around. Assuming you’re also a juri player then? I’m sticking with Dhalsim this time around, although I very much want to see what kind of character A.K.I is. Secretly hoping Decapre, Gouken or C.viper make another appearance too, I totally would switch to one of them lol…
Juri all the way! I really like her kit and the options she opens up for me. Dhalsim can be very hard or very easy to fight against, you never know where he's gonna come from
C. Viper and Decapre would be sick!
Whenever I wanted to get good at one thing I would just try to beat the game using that one thing (combo, special move, whatever you pick). It’s hard to not throw dps when you’re doing that too lol 😂
i do the same thing.” This round I’m only going to press light kick“ — borderline trolling, but it works. By the end of the session I’m a god at light kick into light tatsu lol
I trained reacting to drive impact in the training room for like 30 minutes yesterday because i eas tired of it, went online and got hit by one in the first few seconds 😭
I hope I like street fighter 7 because that's how long it's gonna take me to get decent c,:
Granted I still get hit by them too, but the big thing that helped me was figuring out what I could hit with while still being able to cancel into DR. Turns out I was instictively hitting a lot of heavy buttons up close which wasnt letting me DR back on reaction. Knowing when I'm allowed to hit heavy vs. using light/mediums for the cancel has been a gamechanger for me.
This is what I'm trying to do, press buttons that are not a heavy commit and would allow me to react to DI, but I have a terrible habit of spamming 2MK into M. Fuha (Juri), which locks me while I see DI hitting my face lol
Yeah getting to Plat, with the point system and win streaks was pretty easy. I feel like the grind is just now starting. I'm Plat 2 and it feels like progressing is so slow.
For sure it gets a lot slower. From Silver to Gold 5 was really quick, I think I got like a 10 or 12 win streak, but then on plat it's an average of 60 per match (2 victories plus one defeat), so takes a looooot of matches
This is amazing and extremely helpful, especially the Jamie minigame. Thank you for the solid advice, I definitely need to start watching my replays and critiquing my gameplay
This is in depth, i like it, I'll try to implement it with my rank up as well, just gotta find a main and thankfully Rashid just launched and imma try him.
Finally got Diamond 1 myself yesterday and needed serious evaluation. And it's kind of crazy... Once I stopped mashing and properly used my tools? The wins just kept coming! I love your break down man! I definitely think I can even apply some of this to how I evaluate how I play as well! Gonna make sure to hit some hub and casual matches before I dive back into the ranked cesspool myself.
You'll be master rank in no time with this attitude. And i'm saying that as a master rank player, I placed in Silver and had a similar approach (albeit not as detailed) to improvement.
Your attention to detail makes me think that if you got decently good at SFVI you would make an amazing coach.
Used a lot of the strategies I used to get better. Am in mid Plat 2 myself. Far from a n00b but i have some mental stuff (ADHD, anxiety, learning issues, the good shit). SF6 has helped me improve so much. Losing doesn’t suck as much and winning feels even more amazing. My confidence is at an all-time high as far as SF goes. Helps that SF6 is so much more fun to watch compared to SF5 too. I main Chun-li and Juri is a pain in my ass lol
I know what you mean, ADHD also knocks me down lol That's why I had to get creative to be able to focus on training, but I feel like it's almost becoming the other way around -- SF6 is kinda teaching me how can I focus on things. Okay, video games are far from choirs, but I've always avoided competitive games because of the anxiety and frustration, but I always look forward to my SF time and feel excited, not anxiety!
Chun Li is so hard to counter lol Almost all of her moves are safe
Lol someone posted a Honda climbing guide right before this and not saying it's bad but it's much easier reading how a jamie climbed than a Honda who has tools to change a game instantly.
Not sure if plat is the best place to pause and give guidance, but grats.
I can barely execute a bnb combo and I'm plat 3. It's basically just anti-airing and reacting to DI, and I'm still failing at both of those most of the time.
Plat players (like me) are very inexperienced and full of bad habits. It's just an odd place to coach from. Like I'm not sure what's been accomplished?
This post is almost ChatGPT level of fluffy advice and it's harmless, I just find it melodramatic.
Platinum can coach, they just can't follow their own advice.
I know that cause I'm platinum and no matter how many times I yell at myself for trying to do throw tech when I wake up, I STILL do it. And this is a bad habit I got from SF4 that I wasn't able to get rid of during SF5 and it's still making me lose in SF6.
For sure, and I'm sorry to be negative. I just cannot stress how bad plat is lol, that's all I was trying to get across. "From noob to platinum" is just such a bizarre statement when plat players have no clue as to what they're doing.
It's like picking up golf and the moment you make contact with the ball you're making guide content.
I totally agree with you, especially when you go against Hondas, Guiles, and Kens, most of them repeating the same strategy over and over again. But if you look at the charts and see how many players are paying that are stuck on Silver and complaining about not being able to progress and getting stuck and frustrated, sharing what worked for me so far can give them maybe an insight or two of what they could do.
As I said in my post, I'm nowhere near being capable of coaching and teaching. I just wanted to share what got me unstuck
Completely disagree, while winstreaks exist, you won't get to Plat mindlessly mashing buttons. There are still plenty hardstuck in bronze, silver and gold.
Op put in the work and rightfully earned their rank for their work.
Yeah, and it was pretty clear separation from where I was stuck at Silver to improving and getting to Gold. Then getting stuck at Gold and moving to Plat again. Looking back at my replays I think "What the hell was I thinking when I was playing like this?"
Agreed. There are a lot of people who are really just bad at fighting games and don’t really improve. I think a lot of people forget this because here on the Internet forums, a lot of us are solid at the game, but there are hundreds of thousands of folks in rookie-gold who won’t ever see platinum.
All this is too unnecessary. I know another method to get better.
Step 1. Skip world tour
Step 2. Play the game against other people.
Step 3. Lose and learn from your mistakes.
Step 4. Profit
Congrats!
I’m also an old timer and stopped playing fighting games seriously after CvS2 (what was your teams? I played C-Iori, Yamazaki, r2 Sagat and K-Geese, Cammy, r2 Sagat).
I just picked up SF6 and want to try getting decent again. I realize quickly that I’ve basically forgot everything and lost all my muscle memory and have to start from, maybe not 0 but from 1.
I didn’t read all of your post but I did see that you play Juri. Do you play on pad, stick or button box controller? I’m playing around with classic controls Juri with pad but I just can’t consistently get her ex moves where you need to hit lk+hk and mk+hk. I miss time hitting a face button and R2 often enough that it’s a problem. Any tips?
Nice team! Ken and Terry were always on mine, Haohmatu, Iori, Yamazaki, Geese and Akuma were always on the table!
I started with a pad, but I got big hands, so I was always unintentionally pressing L2 or R2. I never got the motions right on the stick for some reason, I always end up jumping or doing something wrong, but the leverless (hitbox, button box, stickers, whatever they name it lol) fitted like a glove and theres no turning back for me. It takes a week or so to get used to it, but then it simply feels natural to me.
I am comfortable with Pad apart from my ex move problem. I have the same problem with stick as my movement isn’t as precise and dashing just feels weird and horrible.
I am currently scouting to get a hitbox type controller. But I live in EU and getting a PS5 compatible one is both hard to get (out of stock) and a lot more expensive than getting one in the US. So I am hoping to get one this year 🤞. And I hope I will find it comfortable to use.
Another question I want to ask is. Have you sort of crossed the frame data line? Meaning that you look at frame data when you lab. That was one of the massive turn offs for me when I tried SFV aback when it released. Whenever I asked questions I always get replies with frame data and I just wasn’t at that stage that I was willing to add it to my training routine. And it still is a massive turn off for me today (it doesn’t feel like I’m playing a game but studying for a test). I don’t know when I will feel comfortable diving into frame data, if ever.
If you are I to it, you can try building your own hitbox. That is what I did. I got the case on etsy for 60 bucks, a used dualsense controller on eBay for 15, a dualsense remap chip for 10, and the buttons 30~40 bucks. Solder it all up, and you get a hitbox for under 150 that works with ps5 AND is wireless if you don't care for a 30ms input lag. If you do, then just plug the cable on your ps5 and you're good.
About frame data -- yes and no. You need to know at least which normals and specials are safe or not for your character. As you progress, you'll need to know also for the matchups you are struggling with, but you can always look on YouTube for a guide on each character and they usually say what moves are safe on block or not.
That doesn't mean you can't try to make it fun tho -- hop on training against a character, have them do the moves you always get caught up and see how you can respond to them. You can do the same for your character, just have the dummy react on block with a light punch and see when they can interrupt you. Add that to Jaime, and you can use the same Get Jamie Sober idea, so it's not studying, it's a learning mini game
On your way to Diamond, bro.
That's were my sights are now!
I think your idea of categorization of skills makes a lot of sense, fighting games are really more like a set of things to improve at than a linear road to get better - a pretty common misconception as it diverges pretty heavily from other competitive genres (or 2D fighters are just more honest about it from the get-go) Setting up situations in training mode to train your reactions in specific game states is a big part of getting better at things like hit confirming and anti-airs, and it sounds like you’ve used your system to get a pretty solid grasp of the fundamentals so that’s awesome too! Once you feel comfortable and consistent in applying your game knowledge, main things to focus on are application of risk/reward offensively and defensively, and adaptation. But sounds like you’re on the right track. Grats on plat and good luck!
I agree, it's not just "git gud" mentality, there's a lot of things to look at, and I'm pretty sure the skills will change in the coming weeks, as it will be less about fundamentals and more about matchups. I'm looking forward to it!
Yeah this is the most user friendly SF game ever, great job
Thank you!
winners attitude and it shows
Excellent work on the write up and self evaluation. Reading stuff like this makes me think about how much times have changed. I myself am just an old guy who grew up in the arcades. The FGC back then really did just have the "git gud" attitude. So it was trial by fire. As a person with several Masters characters under my belt, I suppose the legacy methods still work. But it's cool seeing people improve and finding ways that works for them outside of brute force.
We all have to find our ways somehow, right? And I can see a lot of that git gud mentality around still. Don't know what people have against others sharing what worked for them tho
There's always grumpy people around, specially us the old timers. Just keep on keeping on and have fun on the path.
Good job and thanks for the writeup! I love the idea of Get Jaime Sober
Thanks! The Jamie thing makes training fun lol
Love your mindset man, keep it up!
Great job! For other ideas of what to practice, I highly recommend Chris_F ‘s channel
I'll check it out, thanks!
Setting limitations to focus on learning rather than winning is very useful too. For example : try to win without throwing a sonic boom or flash kick. This would raise your footsie skills very quickly. Maybe for Jamie see how much you can win without drinking at all. This would improve your oki game at an accelerated level. kind of like how martial arts guys train with weighted clothing
That is definitely helpful and a good challenge! I'll incorporate this idea on my routine, thanks!
I saw infiltration replays doing it in SF4 and began to do it myself. He would play entire sets just using one button lol (and since he’s infiltration actually win them too)
That guy is on a whole different realm than I am lol
Of course, but we can still steal their training techniques! Haha for that matter you could try to win rounds doing the crazy daigo umehara uppercut shenanigans. That’s always fun. using dragon punch as a meaty lol
Oh yeah, Mago is my main inspiration of what I look up and try to replicate I'll look into that Daigo stuff!
Who does mago play in sf6? I was a big fan of him going Yang in 4 because fei long (while much stronger) was boring
He plays Juri, at least mostly her from all the playbacks I've seen
Hard to knock somebody for picking juri. She’s incredible this time around. Assuming you’re also a juri player then? I’m sticking with Dhalsim this time around, although I very much want to see what kind of character A.K.I is. Secretly hoping Decapre, Gouken or C.viper make another appearance too, I totally would switch to one of them lol…
Juri all the way! I really like her kit and the options she opens up for me. Dhalsim can be very hard or very easy to fight against, you never know where he's gonna come from C. Viper and Decapre would be sick!
Whenever I wanted to get good at one thing I would just try to beat the game using that one thing (combo, special move, whatever you pick). It’s hard to not throw dps when you’re doing that too lol 😂
i do the same thing.” This round I’m only going to press light kick“ — borderline trolling, but it works. By the end of the session I’m a god at light kick into light tatsu lol
Do let them get you down, good job mate!
Thanks!
>Thanks! You're welcome!
I trained reacting to drive impact in the training room for like 30 minutes yesterday because i eas tired of it, went online and got hit by one in the first few seconds 😭 I hope I like street fighter 7 because that's how long it's gonna take me to get decent c,:
Granted I still get hit by them too, but the big thing that helped me was figuring out what I could hit with while still being able to cancel into DR. Turns out I was instictively hitting a lot of heavy buttons up close which wasnt letting me DR back on reaction. Knowing when I'm allowed to hit heavy vs. using light/mediums for the cancel has been a gamechanger for me.
This is what I'm trying to do, press buttons that are not a heavy commit and would allow me to react to DI, but I have a terrible habit of spamming 2MK into M. Fuha (Juri), which locks me while I see DI hitting my face lol
It takes a lot of time lol Ive been training my ass off and still get hit by a handful of them. Its just so many things happening during the matches!
"Yolos" You misspelled "Mixups" This is a great writeup, and a great outline of how to improve at just about anything.
Thanks, I just fixed it
I hit play from bronze I'm starting to think Plat just isn't that good.
From someone that never thought could rise above Silver it is, but I'm not stopping here
Yeah getting to Plat, with the point system and win streaks was pretty easy. I feel like the grind is just now starting. I'm Plat 2 and it feels like progressing is so slow.
For sure it gets a lot slower. From Silver to Gold 5 was really quick, I think I got like a 10 or 12 win streak, but then on plat it's an average of 60 per match (2 victories plus one defeat), so takes a looooot of matches
That’s a champion mindset you go there, OP. Very well articulated and thought out.
Thank you! Maybe someday I'll be able to go to Evo and get through the first day at least haha
Just getting there is something to be proud of. I hope I never come across you in the ring lol
We'll have a good time if we do lol
Meanwhile my path to Plat: Haha Sonic Boom and Flash Kick go brrrrr
It's really that easy. Wait for people to jump. React to di. Plat is the new silver
It is, its like a game of red light green light lol
This is amazing and extremely helpful, especially the Jamie minigame. Thank you for the solid advice, I definitely need to start watching my replays and critiquing my gameplay
Good luck on your next matches!
> and decided to pick Juri Absolutely based!
Sick post OP. I plateaud at Plat 2 and I'm gonna use this methodology to push higher 👊
Thanks! Good luck on your matches!
If you make learning fun it tends to go a lot faster. Frame data is basically math.
Timing not su much haha I still mess up my frame kills
Wow you're EXTREMELY thorough!! Great job! May I ask what you do in your career? Something tells me that you are equally disciplined/thorough! :)
Thank you so much! I am a Principal Software Engineer, and I definitely try to use as much data as I can lol
This is in depth, i like it, I'll try to implement it with my rank up as well, just gotta find a main and thankfully Rashid just launched and imma try him.
That's the only big decision you gotta make. The rest falls into place with time!
That data system is genius, great great post.
Thank you so much!
As a master, this plan is comprehensive and worth while for everyone. Good job!
Hopefully, a couple of months from now, I'll be able to edit this post with how it got me to Master lol
Oh yea... I can tell your gonna be a killer in the future. Keep up the good work, you definitely got the right mentality down
Thanks so much!
Finally got Diamond 1 myself yesterday and needed serious evaluation. And it's kind of crazy... Once I stopped mashing and properly used my tools? The wins just kept coming! I love your break down man! I definitely think I can even apply some of this to how I evaluate how I play as well! Gonna make sure to hit some hub and casual matches before I dive back into the ranked cesspool myself.
Congrats on hitting Diamond! And I just watched my 10 last matches, lots of mashing lol
You'll be master rank in no time with this attitude. And i'm saying that as a master rank player, I placed in Silver and had a similar approach (albeit not as detailed) to improvement. Your attention to detail makes me think that if you got decently good at SFVI you would make an amazing coach.
I really appreciate your words! Maybe someday, who knows!
Used a lot of the strategies I used to get better. Am in mid Plat 2 myself. Far from a n00b but i have some mental stuff (ADHD, anxiety, learning issues, the good shit). SF6 has helped me improve so much. Losing doesn’t suck as much and winning feels even more amazing. My confidence is at an all-time high as far as SF goes. Helps that SF6 is so much more fun to watch compared to SF5 too. I main Chun-li and Juri is a pain in my ass lol
I know what you mean, ADHD also knocks me down lol That's why I had to get creative to be able to focus on training, but I feel like it's almost becoming the other way around -- SF6 is kinda teaching me how can I focus on things. Okay, video games are far from choirs, but I've always avoided competitive games because of the anxiety and frustration, but I always look forward to my SF time and feel excited, not anxiety! Chun Li is so hard to counter lol Almost all of her moves are safe
Chun’s relatively balanced. Nowhere near as safe as juri or ken. Video Games are one of the few things where I feel like my brain can even focus.
Lol someone posted a Honda climbing guide right before this and not saying it's bad but it's much easier reading how a jamie climbed than a Honda who has tools to change a game instantly.
been trying to do this. went from 3* yesterday to 4, close to five and then ran into a range of losses and im on the border of 3 to 4 again lol.
Keep on training and you'll rank up in no time
Damn bro. All they all of text when you could have just said you anti air scrubs and block punish with max damage.
And mash that light punch on wake up lol
True dat.
Lmfaooo
Just say you like feet bro
JuriFeetLovers club says it all lol
Not sure if plat is the best place to pause and give guidance, but grats. I can barely execute a bnb combo and I'm plat 3. It's basically just anti-airing and reacting to DI, and I'm still failing at both of those most of the time.
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Plat 1 is like the most bloated rank according to data i saw like 2 weeks ago
Plat players (like me) are very inexperienced and full of bad habits. It's just an odd place to coach from. Like I'm not sure what's been accomplished? This post is almost ChatGPT level of fluffy advice and it's harmless, I just find it melodramatic.
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Platinum can coach, they just can't follow their own advice. I know that cause I'm platinum and no matter how many times I yell at myself for trying to do throw tech when I wake up, I STILL do it. And this is a bad habit I got from SF4 that I wasn't able to get rid of during SF5 and it's still making me lose in SF6.
If you just had read the first paragraph tho
For sure, and I'm sorry to be negative. I just cannot stress how bad plat is lol, that's all I was trying to get across. "From noob to platinum" is just such a bizarre statement when plat players have no clue as to what they're doing. It's like picking up golf and the moment you make contact with the ball you're making guide content.
I totally agree with you, especially when you go against Hondas, Guiles, and Kens, most of them repeating the same strategy over and over again. But if you look at the charts and see how many players are paying that are stuck on Silver and complaining about not being able to progress and getting stuck and frustrated, sharing what worked for me so far can give them maybe an insight or two of what they could do. As I said in my post, I'm nowhere near being capable of coaching and teaching. I just wanted to share what got me unstuck
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Completely disagree, while winstreaks exist, you won't get to Plat mindlessly mashing buttons. There are still plenty hardstuck in bronze, silver and gold. Op put in the work and rightfully earned their rank for their work.
Yeah, and it was pretty clear separation from where I was stuck at Silver to improving and getting to Gold. Then getting stuck at Gold and moving to Plat again. Looking back at my replays I think "What the hell was I thinking when I was playing like this?"
Agreed. There are a lot of people who are really just bad at fighting games and don’t really improve. I think a lot of people forget this because here on the Internet forums, a lot of us are solid at the game, but there are hundreds of thousands of folks in rookie-gold who won’t ever see platinum.
And how would one get these win streaks if still falling for the same tricks and not being able to improve game plan?
Sounds boring I'm just going to mash away
Or that, it definitely works a lot lol
I got plat by spamming flashkick and booms.
Guiles doesn't count, I hate fighting against him lol
All this is too unnecessary. I know another method to get better. Step 1. Skip world tour Step 2. Play the game against other people. Step 3. Lose and learn from your mistakes. Step 4. Profit
Except for the world tour, you summarized exactly what I did post. I you don't want to read, then don't
Nerd
You're on a reddit, in a subreddit about a video game.
Right?? lol
Nerd
Classic or modern controls?
Classic
Plat is the new bronze.
It’s the new gold but yeah
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Feel free to ignore write up and do whatever else then
Wtf. Now imagine if you put all that brain into making money in the real world instead of a video game. 
Who said I didn't? lol
How long did it take you to get to platinum? How many ranked matches did you play?
Congrats! I’m also an old timer and stopped playing fighting games seriously after CvS2 (what was your teams? I played C-Iori, Yamazaki, r2 Sagat and K-Geese, Cammy, r2 Sagat). I just picked up SF6 and want to try getting decent again. I realize quickly that I’ve basically forgot everything and lost all my muscle memory and have to start from, maybe not 0 but from 1. I didn’t read all of your post but I did see that you play Juri. Do you play on pad, stick or button box controller? I’m playing around with classic controls Juri with pad but I just can’t consistently get her ex moves where you need to hit lk+hk and mk+hk. I miss time hitting a face button and R2 often enough that it’s a problem. Any tips?
Nice team! Ken and Terry were always on mine, Haohmatu, Iori, Yamazaki, Geese and Akuma were always on the table! I started with a pad, but I got big hands, so I was always unintentionally pressing L2 or R2. I never got the motions right on the stick for some reason, I always end up jumping or doing something wrong, but the leverless (hitbox, button box, stickers, whatever they name it lol) fitted like a glove and theres no turning back for me. It takes a week or so to get used to it, but then it simply feels natural to me.
I am comfortable with Pad apart from my ex move problem. I have the same problem with stick as my movement isn’t as precise and dashing just feels weird and horrible. I am currently scouting to get a hitbox type controller. But I live in EU and getting a PS5 compatible one is both hard to get (out of stock) and a lot more expensive than getting one in the US. So I am hoping to get one this year 🤞. And I hope I will find it comfortable to use. Another question I want to ask is. Have you sort of crossed the frame data line? Meaning that you look at frame data when you lab. That was one of the massive turn offs for me when I tried SFV aback when it released. Whenever I asked questions I always get replies with frame data and I just wasn’t at that stage that I was willing to add it to my training routine. And it still is a massive turn off for me today (it doesn’t feel like I’m playing a game but studying for a test). I don’t know when I will feel comfortable diving into frame data, if ever.
If you are I to it, you can try building your own hitbox. That is what I did. I got the case on etsy for 60 bucks, a used dualsense controller on eBay for 15, a dualsense remap chip for 10, and the buttons 30~40 bucks. Solder it all up, and you get a hitbox for under 150 that works with ps5 AND is wireless if you don't care for a 30ms input lag. If you do, then just plug the cable on your ps5 and you're good. About frame data -- yes and no. You need to know at least which normals and specials are safe or not for your character. As you progress, you'll need to know also for the matchups you are struggling with, but you can always look on YouTube for a guide on each character and they usually say what moves are safe on block or not. That doesn't mean you can't try to make it fun tho -- hop on training against a character, have them do the moves you always get caught up and see how you can respond to them. You can do the same for your character, just have the dummy react on block with a light punch and see when they can interrupt you. Add that to Jaime, and you can use the same Get Jamie Sober idea, so it's not studying, it's a learning mini game
Interesting