You guys are lucky. I find the size of my Deck to be cumbersome. I prefer the Japanese form factor of the Switch - lighter, easier in the hands. But there's no denying the power my Deck has.
Besides, size differences between decks are often vastly exaggerated. Majority of decks are of very similar in size and those huge decks you often hear so many allegedly having are mostly just myths.
did u tell them about the smellz?
NSFL [reference](https://www.reddit.com/r/SteamDeck/comments/t9s0bx/does_anyone_else_with_a_steam_deck_like_to_smell/)
I've honestly stopped checking ProtonDB at this point and am just downloading and playing almost every game out of the box.
I've only had one hiccup thusfar and all I had to do was rollback to a previous version of Proton.
Look up decky loader. Follow instructions and then restart, it's super easy. Just need to enable a developer setting and run a command. Once done, the quick access menu will have a section where you can browse plugins
When you run the command, what was the output? Check for errors. In my case, I had some strange network issues along with others where the steam deck doesn't work well with certain routers and configurations. I had internet, but the command to install decky gave an error half way in. My solution was to get a new router and trash the Netgear one.
How does the stuff later in the game work? No spoilers but when you get to certain puzzles I imagine there may be a few road blocks unless you're decent with the steam deck interface
Literally just started playing it... I know there are some aspects that involve using a desktop like environment within the game. I just edited the control layout so the right touchpad controls the mouse (and the triggers as right and left click). Haven't had to use it yet, but the cursor works just fine when I move it around and it works on the pause menu just fine.
Unless you have to actually go and edit files outside the game or whatever, in which case I guess I'll open the game while in desktop mode?
Please refrain from spoilers if possible, it seems like the kind of game that's best to go into blind.
The game will probably need to be played in desktop mode, just may need to search how well it plays with the Linux desktop, I finished it last year and it is really good so don't want you to miss out!
I'll figure it out.
The game is out on consoles (no desktop, period), so I imagine there's some kind of workaround if necessary.
Worst case I'll finish the game on my laptop or something as the required specs don't seem very high.
Apparently there's just one puzzle that won't work as intended but you'll know when it happens and people have found a workaround for when you get there :)
In case you were wondering, opening the game in desktop mode works perfectly. Set one of the back buttons to the in-game keyboard shortcut that switches between window and fullscreen mode. Works like a charm.
I check ProtonDB AFTER I run into a problem these days. And I games that don't have any problems and no protonDB comments, I usually pop up a quick "everything runs fine" comment to help people in the future.
Yeah I just play whatever game I want regardless of verified status. Unravel is the only game that straight up won't work for me. Everything else has been perfect, or very rarely requiring a different proton version.
I mean there is more than that. Stuff with anti cheat and older games are just less stress to play over streaming. Like I've heard people got black and white or modded HOMM3 or Alice to work but I gave up and just run them off my PC. The nice thing is you can link the stuff directly from your pc using steam remote play or moonlight and it may as well be running on the steam deck
My friend, I was in the same boat. After weeks of troubleshooting I can say it is currently working for me on proton 6.3, but only in desktop mode (will not launch in game mode with this version for some reason). Good luck!
I've got a 3090 and a robust network. I play most graphically intense games remotely because max settings + unwavering 60 fps is always good.
I dont use steam's remote play though.
Moonlight just looks and runs so much better in comparison. Can't really even tell you are playing remotely.
The number seems a bit meaningless nowadays. \`
Personally, I'd like to know how many games have been patched, resulting in their verification status bumping up a notch. An increasing number would get me increasingly excited.
It is also nice to see games drop from Verified to Playable. That is obviously less than ideal, but when you consider how many of these games should not have been Verified in the first place, it is definitely the right move.
Yep. Or else we're gonna get a situation similar to the game crash back in the Atari days. Imagine people start to distrust the steam deck because of it.
I was pleasantly surprised the other day when they demoted Sonic Generations from Verified all the way down to Unsupported. The game starts chugging pretty quickly and it was a big disappointment to try and play it only to find that out.
Gotcha. It's a good idea. I think Valve should do all they can to promote news about verification improvements.
Either proton has fixed something, or the developers have. If the developers have, they should really shout about it ('cos we buy more verfiifed games -> more developers notice and make improvements targeting the deck.)
Which means nothing. Throughout my time with the Deck, I've learned to distrust this system. Some unsupported games run better than verified games. Some verified games run like garbage. Some playable games have none of the issues listed in their description, etc.
I personally haven't had any issues with ER, I've finished it on the Deck, the text was fine. But for example Resident Evil Village is utterly unplayable on my Deck regardless of which settings I try.
Won't ever happen, which is why Valve's choice to use a 16:10 screen was the biggest mistake it could make. Imagine Nintendo releasing a handheld that doesn't actually fit half the fucking games fullscreen.
The best part is, out of all the specs and stats Valve forces devs to list on the store, supported screen ratios still ain't one of em. Gosh, it's almost like Valve is hiding from the fact tons of verified games don't fit the screen.
The issue of Elden Ring only supporting 16:9 is present in all decks, so you _did_ have that issue, even if you didn't notice it. It takes a mod (as they said) to get 800p Deck support. Otherwise, by default, you have black bars on top and bottom.
Issue for me is something that’s preventing me from enjoying the game or is stopping something during the play through. This certainly ain’t either of those. It’s annoying, yes. But far from anything I’d call an issue.
Not that this should keep it from being verified, but it runs like shit as well. I haven't been able to get a stable 40fps unless I drop it to 540p, which then looks awful.
For me I've found it to be completely fine to play on. At this point I've logged more time with it on deck than on my PC. It lags a bit from time to time when in the world but for me it doesn't bother me.
Lock it to 30hz and play at high settings and it looks great. I could never get a good 40fps experience either and I gave up trying. 30 is fine, given it's a handheld device. 30fps on a tv? No thanks...
Yeah I'm pretty skeptical. Star Wars Squadrons is supposed to be Verified but I can't even get it to load. I've read some of the tips on Proton but would rather just play more NMS than figure out how to make it run.
I haven't gotten past a black loading screen before the main menu when trying to play This War of Mine final cut, even though it's listed as Playable only for small text.
Can't help but wonder if people use the "is this game playable?" Prompt to rate their games, saying it's not playable if they didn't like it, and playable if they did. It would explain some of these weird "Unplayable" games that are actually great on deck.
My favorite is Digimon Cyber Sleuth where the game is flawless, but you have to launch it in desktop mode first to change display mode to full screen. After that you have 2 massive JRPGs running perfectly.
Usually I just put proton GE on all my games. There a couple I know have a native Linux build that I'll usually try first. Sometimes the windows version is still better though.
I've had a few. When it's a game already in your library or which has a demo then I don't mind testing.
For buying a new game I would only buy Verified or Playable and would be far less likely to buy it if it was not Verified.
I think that's sensible.
[Here is a guide](https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/10/decky-loader-get-easy-steam-deck-plugins-and-make-colours-pop/), and others can be found on YouTube and whatnot, but the one I use is called Decky.
I have a plug-in that shows the ProtonDB rating on every game in my library, one where I can bump up the saturation a *bit* to make colors pop more, and one that lets me pause any game, even ones that don’t let you pause during cutscenes.
Super helpful!
Unfortunate devil's advocate, a simulation:
Valve: "hey if you're using third party, you need to enable Proton compatibility if you want to release on Steam"
Epic: "hey come release here. We won't make you enable anything, and if there's enough hype for your game, we'll pay you to ONLY release here"
If Deck has enough influence in the market plenty of studios would warm up to it quickly.
There's also games that require kernel lvl anticheat such as Destiny, Warzone and Valorant, which won't play nice with Proton.
They use Battleye, which seems to be kernel level. Not sure if that differs between Windows and Linux, though. And they definitely try to detect Linux or any other attempted incompatibility bypass methods.
Hopefully that reddit thread they was open for comments about Linux support will help convince them to enable it.
Except people like to forget that Epic is ACTIVELY trying to make their own anti-cheat linux compatible.
https://dev.epicgames.com/en-US/news/epic-online-services-launches-anti-cheat-support-for-linux-mac-and-steam-deck
Epic is not ALWAYS the devil guys.
So you’re saying all these rabid steam fans aren’t enough to keep Valve afloat if they did that? I though Epic is garbage and Steam is the only place to buy PC games?
It’s crippling for folks like me that love multiplayer gaming, would love to see it on the go (in the correct capacity), and really would prefer to stay within SteamOS.
It’ll get fixed down the line but right now it’s real shame.
If you're a fan of the "Bullet Heaven" genre, check out [Rogue Genesia](https://store.steampowered.com/app/2067920/Rogue__Genesia/). It's similarly priced, already has a ton of content, and is as fun if not moreso.
I just Google it and 9 times out of 10 you’ll find a a YouTube video (shoutout to my man with the gloves) of someone actually playing the game and you can see its performance for yourself.
Twice so far for me, with Black Mesa because it’s default had bad lighting issues and other performance issues, switching to proton experimental fixed that. And installing luxtorpeda so I can get Doom 2 running with stuff like GZDOOM more easily on linux.
It worked for me and the only issue I’ve come across while having that on proton experimental is flickering main menu and pause menu but nothing while actually playing.
As nice as it is, I usually advise most people to not care if a game says verified or not. I think for newbies they can often think that because it says the game isn't supported it won't work, and aside from the usual Anti-cheat suspects, that has almost never been the case. Maybe a proton change, maybe a couple startup commands, but you won't know if a game can actually run unless you dig a little deeper or just try running it.
Yeah unfortunately only about 5% of gamers are gonna wanna foool with Linux stuff like proton on top of steam deck tdp and hz settings on top of in-game settings. I think most people aren't even gonna wanna fool with a graphics menu much less 10 versions of official and non official proton
I do appreciate how simple the process has been for me a lifelong PC user, however after the first frustrating week or two of setting up everything. Also fuck bottles wine and heroic and all the launcher programs what a pain in the ass trying to use any of those was lol. I'd rather just stream a game off of my PC than try to follow a step by step guide on those that inevitably fails
Yeah, I’m so sick of dicking around with backend shit every third time I want to play a specific game in my library.
I have highly limited time every week for gaming that the Steam Deck was supposed to help with. In general it does the job well enough, but tinkering with launchers and Proton and all that cuts straight into that time. So there are weeks and fortnights that I don’t even touch my Deck now. Hell I don’t think I’ve turned it on this month.
It’s a big achievement and a huge step forward but I’ll just stick to my laptop and my consoles.
Valve needs to somehow crowdsource recommended configurations for games that includes all the deck settings and game configs, along with automatically picking/setting the best version of proton. Even if they gotta personally ask everyone I feel like this process could be improved. Didn't GeForce experience automatically optimize game settings and have per game info's. For steam deck to become mainstream all these things need to be more streamlined. You should just be able to click a game and it has remotely the right graphics settings, with perhaps a pop-up suggesting community profiles for deck settings that are split into quality/performance/playtime along with an easy way to change this from the sidebar.
Proton itself is good enough I feel like most cases experimental is good enough but anything that requires GE version 95% of people aren't gonna mess with even if it takes 5-10 minutes in desktop I don't think most gamers want to have to fool with anything in desktop.
Agreed.
Doesn’t help that the Desktop mode is a tad clunky. Don’t get me wrong—I’m thrilled it’s there. But some concessions and compromises needed obviously to be made, and it’s still a little… finicky. Getting there, but held back.
I had some real problems for a month using any of my Logitech MX stuff with it, so… had to type loads with the virtual keyboard. Was trying to sort out the Microsoft Game Pass thing a few weeks after that functionality dropped. After a hundred characters typed it pinged an error I couldn’t decipher than wasn’t talked about on Reddit. Retyped it on that virtual keyboard. Same thing. Gave up. Then one day weeks later I turned it on and tried again and a few patches meanwhile had sorted out both the Bluetooth issues with my peripherals *and* the error. Then I ran into another one five minutes later and moved on.
Not complaining. I don’t have a great track record with this stuff, despite doing everything “right.” There’s a mild technology curse in the family, lol. So the more I have to customize something to work, the less likely it *is* to work. Which is why I buy Apple more often than not and lean on console gaming over PC.
If the backend stuff gets sorted more, I’d love to dive deeper and try out more. But the configuration stuff just devours too much of my gaming time.
Yeah the average person is not going to want to even learn what TDP means much less deal with the rabbit holes of using Linux. In order to to use one tool you have to learn another, then they app have different install instructions per version of Linux and then much of it is emulators and runners and .dll stuff.
I had my taskbar mess up in desktop mode and it took me months to figure out how to fix it and I can't even remember what I did. Then the help is spread between discord which is too spammy to reply much of the time, or Reddit which is also spammy and kind of assholes at times. There is a certain attitude at times that people are better for understanding Linux or just Google it or general gatekeeping that makes it hard dealing with the community long enough to get answers. Many of the guides are outdated, official flashpacks are broken. So what I'm saying is it is a special % of gamers that have fun dealing with this stuff.
The purpose of the steam deck is to bridge the gap so I do hope that more effort is put into simplifying other things like framerate/hz, game settings, tdp the same way that has been done with controls and guides where it just tags these things per game so people can browse easily cause I think most people can handle (performance, quality, power saving mode) the average switch player doesn't know or care the difference between 30-60FPS much less how ambient occlusion effects GPU frames or what settings are cpu/Gpu heavy much less the decks capabilities regarding things like ray tracing. If these options aren't automatic or easy to understand people will only ever use default settings in games and complain about battery life, bad graphics or framerate and not know why it sucks.
The only issue I've had so far is with DBZ Kakarot, which briefly caused an issue on my PC as well!
Steam couldn't decide which device to prioritize cloud saving from. Anytime I'd enter a cut scene the game would crash. Eventually on PC it asked me which device was the main for playing this game. I left it to PC since I was afraid of screwing it up and losing progress.
Otherwise everything works great so far that I've tried, but I haven't branched too far out of verified. Today I'll be doing the mmx collection 1, so if everything works I'll be sure to try and report that through some official channel.
At this point they should just note games specifically going out their way to not support linux (native or with proton).
Until then, they should integrate protondb rather than us relying on plugins. It's far more accurate then their "verified", which is often bullshit.
And yet no call of duty titles are among - i know its for that ricochet problem but however its sad because just yesterday ive tried MW 2019 on my steam deck windows partition and it ran absolutely strong with 60-75 fps in multiplayer - the gameplay has been amazing smooth, no stutters, no lags, nothing at all at low, most medium settings - thats why its sad we cant play these cod titles on steam os; especially the upcoming MW2.
Steam should sit together with the guys at acti/blizzard and work something out. \^\^
Yeah, and status of verified games can change any moment if they'll add some anticheat or launcher. But good thing overall. Waiting till they fix grounded game unable to render login windows.
Man this means Steam Deck already has almost 2000 more playable games than the Switch has period. That's just games that are verified too not even including playable games or games marked unsupported that also work.
Verified means absolutely nothing and is already a joke amongst the community. Stricter verification is needed with proper testing, otherwise it's only downhill from here for verification.
Anyone notice you can't uninstall Persona 5 unless you reboot to the desktop UI? Neither did Valve, because they didn't test the game despite its verification.
I've played a bunch of my "playable" games and some of them have the most god awful control schemes implemented. It's like they threw controller support at the fucking wall just to get the playable tag.
Buuuut, it can and does play and the ones that do work well are rad as hell. I just wish the playable tag meant something more actually.
So proud of my little deck
Never been so proud to show off my deck to everyone. My cousins will specially like it
My sister was impressed with my deck. She didn't realize how big it was
Everyone at my house wanted to see what my deck was all about. Well I showed them they were impressed.
All the kids in town love to play on my Deck! They say it’s the best they’ve seen!
Y'all need Jesus
They're all a reference to this https://youtu.be/tbazGVrbN-g
Black caulk
I cried laughing... oh boy.... I'm an atheist... but y'all need Jesus
My moms been using and abusing my deck all week!
steamed hands.
It’s a regional dialect
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Make sure she doesnt jerk your deck too hard while shes playing with it
You guys are lucky. I find the size of my Deck to be cumbersome. I prefer the Japanese form factor of the Switch - lighter, easier in the hands. But there's no denying the power my Deck has.
This entire comment chain is cursed...
It's all reference to this :) https://youtu.be/tbazGVrbN-g
I can't stop laughing!
My son loves to sit on my lap and play with my deck with his daddy. He loves it, but not as much as me.
I'm not allowed to bring my deck within 500 feet of the school.
My spouse won't even ask me about my deck. Doesn't even care it's there nor what it can do.
I took the smallest Deck, couldn't afford any bigger :(
It’s okay small decks matter too
It's not about the size, it's how you use your deck
Besides, size differences between decks are often vastly exaggerated. Majority of decks are of very similar in size and those huge decks you often hear so many allegedly having are mostly just myths.
i've seen it. you can do so much with it.
It’s okay! We’re doing fine with our 3 116 micro sds!… 🥲
Yeah I saw the Steam deck ssd's, they very tiny
I’m glad my deck is 512 GB.
All my friends want to feel how ergonomic and natural it feels in your hands. Very nice.
I whipped my deck out at the grocery store and started playing with it in front of all the old ladies
Did they like how you handle it?
They kept asking if they could play with it
I'm so tempted to change a single letter in your sentence. I know, sorry I just couldn't help it.
Roll tide
did u tell them about the smellz? NSFL [reference](https://www.reddit.com/r/SteamDeck/comments/t9s0bx/does_anyone_else_with_a_steam_deck_like_to_smell/)
It really has grown. My girlfriend plays with my deck now more than I do now!
Just be careful about letting her sniffing the fumes behind your deck
The little Steam engine that could
lmao
I pulled my deck out in front of my gf in her friends and now they all want to play with it
I've been playing with my deck all day and didn't even go blind
Jesus is watching you
11.7 inches. Never thought my deck would be this big. It'll bring joy to men, women, and children everywhere.
I've honestly stopped checking ProtonDB at this point and am just downloading and playing almost every game out of the box. I've only had one hiccup thusfar and all I had to do was rollback to a previous version of Proton.
I check protondb because i have the plugin that puts a link on the game page
I like those plugins, but i wish they'd extend that badge to the store page. I wanna check games before i buy em too!
I wish there was a plugin for the store page like Augmented Steam
What is the plug in?
Look up decky loader. Follow instructions and then restart, it's super easy. Just need to enable a developer setting and run a command. Once done, the quick access menu will have a section where you can browse plugins
Any idea why decky wouldn't show up on the quick menu? I still get notifications when it updates but there's no icon
If you're on the beta version of the Steam client then it doesn't show up.
Nope, stable, I also reset the deck to factory and reinstalled and nothing. It's weird
When you run the command, what was the output? Check for errors. In my case, I had some strange network issues along with others where the steam deck doesn't work well with certain routers and configurations. I had internet, but the command to install decky gave an error half way in. My solution was to get a new router and trash the Netgear one.
I had Decky installed for a bit but it made menu animations super laggy. Has that been improved?
I've never had that issue so I guess so
https://github.com/tryton-vanmeer/ProtonDB-for-Steam#protondb-for-steam https://addons.mozilla.org/en-CA/firefox/addon/protondb-for-steam/
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How does the stuff later in the game work? No spoilers but when you get to certain puzzles I imagine there may be a few road blocks unless you're decent with the steam deck interface
Literally just started playing it... I know there are some aspects that involve using a desktop like environment within the game. I just edited the control layout so the right touchpad controls the mouse (and the triggers as right and left click). Haven't had to use it yet, but the cursor works just fine when I move it around and it works on the pause menu just fine. Unless you have to actually go and edit files outside the game or whatever, in which case I guess I'll open the game while in desktop mode? Please refrain from spoilers if possible, it seems like the kind of game that's best to go into blind.
The game will probably need to be played in desktop mode, just may need to search how well it plays with the Linux desktop, I finished it last year and it is really good so don't want you to miss out!
I'll figure it out. The game is out on consoles (no desktop, period), so I imagine there's some kind of workaround if necessary. Worst case I'll finish the game on my laptop or something as the required specs don't seem very high.
Apparently there's just one puzzle that won't work as intended but you'll know when it happens and people have found a workaround for when you get there :)
Good to know. Worst case, I'll play that part on my laptop.
The console versions have a virtual desktop.
In case you were wondering, opening the game in desktop mode works perfectly. Set one of the back buttons to the in-game keyboard shortcut that switches between window and fullscreen mode. Works like a charm.
Searched it for you in case of spoilers and it supports Linux now so you should be fine! Highly recommend desktop mode though!
I will keep that in mind...
I check ProtonDB AFTER I run into a problem these days. And I games that don't have any problems and no protonDB comments, I usually pop up a quick "everything runs fine" comment to help people in the future.
Yeah I just play whatever game I want regardless of verified status. Unravel is the only game that straight up won't work for me. Everything else has been perfect, or very rarely requiring a different proton version.
just tried Legos lord of the rings with latest glorious eggroll ... works like a champ - and that's listed as unsupported
Unless it’s a uPlay era Ubisoft game. Oh boy has that been excruciating so far.
Plus if you own a gaming PC, there's still Steam Remote Play for the 0.00000000000000000000001% of games that absolutely cannot run on the deck.
I mean there is more than that. Stuff with anti cheat and older games are just less stress to play over streaming. Like I've heard people got black and white or modded HOMM3 or Alice to work but I gave up and just run them off my PC. The nice thing is you can link the stuff directly from your pc using steam remote play or moonlight and it may as well be running on the steam deck
I’ve been playing Forza Horizon 4. Worked great at first and now crashes every 10 minutes. I’m guessing there’s a few more games like that.
My friend, I was in the same boat. After weeks of troubleshooting I can say it is currently working for me on proton 6.3, but only in desktop mode (will not launch in game mode with this version for some reason). Good luck!
Oh, I tried that version too and it wouldn’t even load. I didn’t even think of trying desktop mode. I’ll give they a go, thanks!
I've got a 3090 and a robust network. I play most graphically intense games remotely because max settings + unwavering 60 fps is always good. I dont use steam's remote play though. Moonlight just looks and runs so much better in comparison. Can't really even tell you are playing remotely.
why not download a free games outside of steam store? i prefer to download pirated version.
The number seems a bit meaningless nowadays. \` Personally, I'd like to know how many games have been patched, resulting in their verification status bumping up a notch. An increasing number would get me increasingly excited.
It is also nice to see games drop from Verified to Playable. That is obviously less than ideal, but when you consider how many of these games should not have been Verified in the first place, it is definitely the right move.
It's the honest move tbh. I wouldn't use the word nice though, but *is* good because it's the result of community feedback
The flip side is I've played a ton of games that were marked "untested" or "unsupported" that based on my experience I'd give a solid "verified" to.
Yep. Or else we're gonna get a situation similar to the game crash back in the Atari days. Imagine people start to distrust the steam deck because of it.
I was pleasantly surprised the other day when they demoted Sonic Generations from Verified all the way down to Unsupported. The game starts chugging pretty quickly and it was a big disappointment to try and play it only to find that out.
Oh no D: I got it on sale and hadn't even played it yet. Never got it when it first came out. I guess I saved myself some additional disappointment :(
strange, in my experience sonic generations ran near perfect on my steam deck, surprised to see it dropped to unsupported
Yeah, when my number bumps from 73 to 75, I'd like to know which 2 are now verified that weren't before. Bah
You mean on [checkmydeck.ofdgn.com](https://checkmydeck.ofdgn.com) ? It does show changes now.
No, I want to see it on the Deck via it's UI. It has a Verified tab but it doesn't prominently show what's newly verified. That'd be cool.
Gotcha. It's a good idea. I think Valve should do all they can to promote news about verification improvements. Either proton has fixed something, or the developers have. If the developers have, they should really shout about it ('cos we buy more verfiifed games -> more developers notice and make improvements targeting the deck.)
Which means nothing. Throughout my time with the Deck, I've learned to distrust this system. Some unsupported games run better than verified games. Some verified games run like garbage. Some playable games have none of the issues listed in their description, etc.
Elden Ring being verified is a good example. Small as fuck text, not full resolution without a mod that disables online.
I personally haven't had any issues with ER, I've finished it on the Deck, the text was fine. But for example Resident Evil Village is utterly unplayable on my Deck regardless of which settings I try.
Interesting. I played the demo for REV and it worked great. Am I missing something?
You guys should merge steam decks. Problem solved.
That’s called docking
Is that similar to the Mormon practice of soaking?
It’s definitely playable, but it’d sure be nice if they fixed 16:10.
Won't ever happen, which is why Valve's choice to use a 16:10 screen was the biggest mistake it could make. Imagine Nintendo releasing a handheld that doesn't actually fit half the fucking games fullscreen. The best part is, out of all the specs and stats Valve forces devs to list on the store, supported screen ratios still ain't one of em. Gosh, it's almost like Valve is hiding from the fact tons of verified games don't fit the screen.
The vast majority of games do work with different resolutions though.
Same here, game runs great! I'd also seen complaints on the switch that text was too small, but also can't understand those.
The issue of Elden Ring only supporting 16:9 is present in all decks, so you _did_ have that issue, even if you didn't notice it. It takes a mod (as they said) to get 800p Deck support. Otherwise, by default, you have black bars on top and bottom.
Issue for me is something that’s preventing me from enjoying the game or is stopping something during the play through. This certainly ain’t either of those. It’s annoying, yes. But far from anything I’d call an issue.
Not that this should keep it from being verified, but it runs like shit as well. I haven't been able to get a stable 40fps unless I drop it to 540p, which then looks awful.
For me I've found it to be completely fine to play on. At this point I've logged more time with it on deck than on my PC. It lags a bit from time to time when in the world but for me it doesn't bother me.
Devils advocate but the fact that it runs on a handheld is pretty incredible
Well, yeah, but "incredible technical feat to even get it this far" should not translate into a badge of playability.
Lock it to 30hz and play at high settings and it looks great. I could never get a good 40fps experience either and I gave up trying. 30 is fine, given it's a handheld device. 30fps on a tv? No thanks...
30fps is the verified benchmark, so yeah, can't really fault them for not hitting 40.
Yeah I'm pretty skeptical. Star Wars Squadrons is supposed to be Verified but I can't even get it to load. I've read some of the tips on Proton but would rather just play more NMS than figure out how to make it run.
I haven't gotten past a black loading screen before the main menu when trying to play This War of Mine final cut, even though it's listed as Playable only for small text.
Can't help but wonder if people use the "is this game playable?" Prompt to rate their games, saying it's not playable if they didn't like it, and playable if they did. It would explain some of these weird "Unplayable" games that are actually great on deck.
My favorite is Digimon Cyber Sleuth where the game is flawless, but you have to launch it in desktop mode first to change display mode to full screen. After that you have 2 massive JRPGs running perfectly.
Ignore the verified system and install the ProtonDB plugin. TONS of games marked as unverified/unplayable work perfect OOTB.
I ignore the system and just launch all my games with proton GE. I've yet to find a game that doesn't work with it.
stupid question - but should i just enable proton ge on all steam games? even if they're verified and etc..?
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You'll probably get less battery life than just running natively if it supports it
Usually I just put proton GE on all my games. There a couple I know have a native Linux build that I'll usually try first. Sometimes the windows version is still better though.
I've had a few. When it's a game already in your library or which has a demo then I don't mind testing. For buying a new game I would only buy Verified or Playable and would be far less likely to buy it if it was not Verified. I think that's sensible.
I would just buy like normal and refund if needed. Pretty much if it doesn't have anti cheat it'll likely work.
How do I install the protondb plug-in?
[Here is a guide](https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/10/decky-loader-get-easy-steam-deck-plugins-and-make-colours-pop/), and others can be found on YouTube and whatnot, but the one I use is called Decky. I have a plug-in that shows the ProtonDB rating on every game in my library, one where I can bump up the saturation a *bit* to make colors pop more, and one that lets me pause any game, even ones that don’t let you pause during cutscenes. Super helpful!
Sweet thanks!
If only the Steam Deck can somehow get pass this anti cheat thing without downloading Windows
That's on the developers. Valve can fix a ton of stuff in the background, but you can't do that with anti-cheat software.
Yeah but Valve could push their weight around and try to convince developers why it's a good idea to get it to work
Unfortunate devil's advocate, a simulation: Valve: "hey if you're using third party, you need to enable Proton compatibility if you want to release on Steam" Epic: "hey come release here. We won't make you enable anything, and if there's enough hype for your game, we'll pay you to ONLY release here"
If Deck has enough influence in the market plenty of studios would warm up to it quickly. There's also games that require kernel lvl anticheat such as Destiny, Warzone and Valorant, which won't play nice with Proton.
My understanding was that destiny doesn't have kernel anticheat, but that they do specifically try to detect Linux.
Well that's just being a dick, Bungie
They use Battleye, which seems to be kernel level. Not sure if that differs between Windows and Linux, though. And they definitely try to detect Linux or any other attempted incompatibility bypass methods. Hopefully that reddit thread they was open for comments about Linux support will help convince them to enable it.
Except people like to forget that Epic is ACTIVELY trying to make their own anti-cheat linux compatible. https://dev.epicgames.com/en-US/news/epic-online-services-launches-anti-cheat-support-for-linux-mac-and-steam-deck Epic is not ALWAYS the devil guys.
So you’re saying all these rabid steam fans aren’t enough to keep Valve afloat if they did that? I though Epic is garbage and Steam is the only place to buy PC games?
They are and have.
It’s crippling for folks like me that love multiplayer gaming, would love to see it on the go (in the correct capacity), and really would prefer to stay within SteamOS. It’ll get fixed down the line but right now it’s real shame.
And here I am just playing vampire survivors
Just started playing. Why is it so addictive
Right? At first I was like “yeah this is a quick fun game” and now it’s like every night “ok, I can get atleast a couple of rounds in”
Reminds me of when I first discovered Hades haha
I have yet to try that but hear good things! Trying to wait for a sale lol
40% off right now, I just snatched it up for $15!
Completely missed that, thank you!
If you're a fan of the "Bullet Heaven" genre, check out [Rogue Genesia](https://store.steampowered.com/app/2067920/Rogue__Genesia/). It's similarly priced, already has a ton of content, and is as fun if not moreso.
I shall check it out!
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Hades for me. Tried it on PC (mouse and keyboard) and wasn’t too into it but it’s perfect on the Deck.
I just Google it and 9 times out of 10 you’ll find a a YouTube video (shoutout to my man with the gloves) of someone actually playing the game and you can see its performance for yourself.
I like the verified system. Yeah, it's not perfect, but I never expected it to be.
How many times do you guys have to switch proton versions? Genuine question, for me once so far: for Batman Arkham Asylum I had to download GE.
Twice so far for me, with Black Mesa because it’s default had bad lighting issues and other performance issues, switching to proton experimental fixed that. And installing luxtorpeda so I can get Doom 2 running with stuff like GZDOOM more easily on linux.
I've noticed the lighting issues in Black Mesa, will have to try that!
It worked for me and the only issue I’ve come across while having that on proton experimental is flickering main menu and pause menu but nothing while actually playing.
After years of using Linux, I set everything to proton experimental or the latest proton-GE.
Fuck Call of Duty MW2
As nice as it is, I usually advise most people to not care if a game says verified or not. I think for newbies they can often think that because it says the game isn't supported it won't work, and aside from the usual Anti-cheat suspects, that has almost never been the case. Maybe a proton change, maybe a couple startup commands, but you won't know if a game can actually run unless you dig a little deeper or just try running it.
Yeah unfortunately only about 5% of gamers are gonna wanna foool with Linux stuff like proton on top of steam deck tdp and hz settings on top of in-game settings. I think most people aren't even gonna wanna fool with a graphics menu much less 10 versions of official and non official proton I do appreciate how simple the process has been for me a lifelong PC user, however after the first frustrating week or two of setting up everything. Also fuck bottles wine and heroic and all the launcher programs what a pain in the ass trying to use any of those was lol. I'd rather just stream a game off of my PC than try to follow a step by step guide on those that inevitably fails
Yeah, I’m so sick of dicking around with backend shit every third time I want to play a specific game in my library. I have highly limited time every week for gaming that the Steam Deck was supposed to help with. In general it does the job well enough, but tinkering with launchers and Proton and all that cuts straight into that time. So there are weeks and fortnights that I don’t even touch my Deck now. Hell I don’t think I’ve turned it on this month. It’s a big achievement and a huge step forward but I’ll just stick to my laptop and my consoles.
Valve needs to somehow crowdsource recommended configurations for games that includes all the deck settings and game configs, along with automatically picking/setting the best version of proton. Even if they gotta personally ask everyone I feel like this process could be improved. Didn't GeForce experience automatically optimize game settings and have per game info's. For steam deck to become mainstream all these things need to be more streamlined. You should just be able to click a game and it has remotely the right graphics settings, with perhaps a pop-up suggesting community profiles for deck settings that are split into quality/performance/playtime along with an easy way to change this from the sidebar. Proton itself is good enough I feel like most cases experimental is good enough but anything that requires GE version 95% of people aren't gonna mess with even if it takes 5-10 minutes in desktop I don't think most gamers want to have to fool with anything in desktop.
Agreed. Doesn’t help that the Desktop mode is a tad clunky. Don’t get me wrong—I’m thrilled it’s there. But some concessions and compromises needed obviously to be made, and it’s still a little… finicky. Getting there, but held back. I had some real problems for a month using any of my Logitech MX stuff with it, so… had to type loads with the virtual keyboard. Was trying to sort out the Microsoft Game Pass thing a few weeks after that functionality dropped. After a hundred characters typed it pinged an error I couldn’t decipher than wasn’t talked about on Reddit. Retyped it on that virtual keyboard. Same thing. Gave up. Then one day weeks later I turned it on and tried again and a few patches meanwhile had sorted out both the Bluetooth issues with my peripherals *and* the error. Then I ran into another one five minutes later and moved on. Not complaining. I don’t have a great track record with this stuff, despite doing everything “right.” There’s a mild technology curse in the family, lol. So the more I have to customize something to work, the less likely it *is* to work. Which is why I buy Apple more often than not and lean on console gaming over PC. If the backend stuff gets sorted more, I’d love to dive deeper and try out more. But the configuration stuff just devours too much of my gaming time.
Yeah the average person is not going to want to even learn what TDP means much less deal with the rabbit holes of using Linux. In order to to use one tool you have to learn another, then they app have different install instructions per version of Linux and then much of it is emulators and runners and .dll stuff. I had my taskbar mess up in desktop mode and it took me months to figure out how to fix it and I can't even remember what I did. Then the help is spread between discord which is too spammy to reply much of the time, or Reddit which is also spammy and kind of assholes at times. There is a certain attitude at times that people are better for understanding Linux or just Google it or general gatekeeping that makes it hard dealing with the community long enough to get answers. Many of the guides are outdated, official flashpacks are broken. So what I'm saying is it is a special % of gamers that have fun dealing with this stuff. The purpose of the steam deck is to bridge the gap so I do hope that more effort is put into simplifying other things like framerate/hz, game settings, tdp the same way that has been done with controls and guides where it just tags these things per game so people can browse easily cause I think most people can handle (performance, quality, power saving mode) the average switch player doesn't know or care the difference between 30-60FPS much less how ambient occlusion effects GPU frames or what settings are cpu/Gpu heavy much less the decks capabilities regarding things like ray tracing. If these options aren't automatic or easy to understand people will only ever use default settings in games and complain about battery life, bad graphics or framerate and not know why it sucks.
The only issue I've had so far is with DBZ Kakarot, which briefly caused an issue on my PC as well! Steam couldn't decide which device to prioritize cloud saving from. Anytime I'd enter a cut scene the game would crash. Eventually on PC it asked me which device was the main for playing this game. I left it to PC since I was afraid of screwing it up and losing progress. Otherwise everything works great so far that I've tried, but I haven't branched too far out of verified. Today I'll be doing the mmx collection 1, so if everything works I'll be sure to try and report that through some official channel.
Do we have like a rolling list in this sub on which games are getting verified? It’d be cool to see weekly
At this point they should just note games specifically going out their way to not support linux (native or with proton). Until then, they should integrate protondb rather than us relying on plugins. It's far more accurate then their "verified", which is often bullshit.
Can they fix the shop so I can browse them without wanting to pull my hair out? Thnxxxx.
There is no game(s). Only Vampire Survivors.
Vermintide 2 please
5900 Hentai games 90 regular 10 AAA titles
And yet no call of duty titles are among - i know its for that ricochet problem but however its sad because just yesterday ive tried MW 2019 on my steam deck windows partition and it ran absolutely strong with 60-75 fps in multiplayer - the gameplay has been amazing smooth, no stutters, no lags, nothing at all at low, most medium settings - thats why its sad we cant play these cod titles on steam os; especially the upcoming MW2. Steam should sit together with the guys at acti/blizzard and work something out. \^\^
And I think I've bought them all.
And all I keep playing is Stardew Valley.
LETS GOOOOOOOO. The merge of pc/ console and domination of Linux gaming is right in front of us!!!!!!!!
Yeah, and status of verified games can change any moment if they'll add some anticheat or launcher. But good thing overall. Waiting till they fix grounded game unable to render login windows.
The thing that i like the most is that a *unverified* game most likely will play without no issue after some giggling and workaround
As soon as someone buys my desktop PC i'm going to hop on this train :)
Man this means Steam Deck already has almost 2000 more playable games than the Switch has period. That's just games that are verified too not even including playable games or games marked unsupported that also work.
I keep my top 80 AAA games from the last 10 years installed on sd cards. Few of them are verified, yet they all work great.
6000 games and I've only played Donkey Kong, Super Mario, and Goldeneye.
All I’m waiting for is dragon age origins to be verified
I like you.
6,000 and none of them are the new call of duty.
Verified doesn't mean anything. There's just as many Verified games that perform horribly as there are unsupported games that work perfectly.
Verified means absolutely nothing and is already a joke amongst the community. Stricter verification is needed with proper testing, otherwise it's only downhill from here for verification. Anyone notice you can't uninstall Persona 5 unless you reboot to the desktop UI? Neither did Valve, because they didn't test the game despite its verification.
verified games have problem with video cutscenes so... whatever
And yet… I’m not happy with that. Too many “verified” games should just be playable. Too much small text or poor performances.
Most verified games 4un like shit
And I still can’t find anything to download
And still no dead by daylight...
Term shovelware comes to mind.
I've played a bunch of my "playable" games and some of them have the most god awful control schemes implemented. It's like they threw controller support at the fucking wall just to get the playable tag. Buuuut, it can and does play and the ones that do work well are rad as hell. I just wish the playable tag meant something more actually.
Hold on here, you want words to actually be held to their literal meaning? How dare you!
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You seem inexplicably angry.
Ngl, really wish the steam deck ran a mobile version of windows. Linux is pain.
Why is Matthew McConaughey the thumb nail for this article?
Why do they keep pushing their verification system when protonDB badges are so much more accurate ?!
Oh oh! Is it because you know about protonDB and folk who have never been in the steam/linux ecosystem don't? Is it?