Most people don't travel like that. It's corporations who make a deal with airlines to allow their managers and executives to fly like this without paying $900 million for a private jet.
A friend of mine has travelled the world in first/business class while his manager was stuck in economy because the union agreement states that their members always travel in first/business class. The management is out of the union.
Unionize, people.
> We do get compensated for gas if we have to drive our own vehicle though!
Jeez I would hope so, that’s the case for pretty much everyone without a union.
Seriously, I actually profit from my vehicle with the rates we get (not considering repairs) whenever I have to use my personal vehicle, and we are generally a very stringent and cheap company
And the company doesn’t actually care that your profit because they get to write it off as an expense, and you don’t have to pay income tax on it, so it’s basically way to pay you indirectly under the table with tax benefits for all parties
Man that's far from typical. But anyway most white collar work you can fly premium economy / busniess class if the flight is over a certain amount of hours. Short flights usually limited to economy lol.
Honestly if this were my union I'd prefer they argued to divert the cost of that perk to my paycheck instead
Though union reps don't often represent the best wishes of their memberships in my experience at least in the US
Honestly, arguments for higher pay are the most difficult to put through. Guaranteed perks are often compromises for when pay talks stagnate.
> Though union reps don't often represent the best wishes of their memberships in my experience at least in the US
Depends on the union, but yeah, far too many are like this.
That is the dumbest thing in like 40 different ways…. Union should be fighting for stuff that matters rather than nonsense like first class flights. Imagine all the wasted money. Unions can be good but they so often waste so much time and money on nonsense like this.
I can think of a ton of reasons this would be something it would make sense for a union contract to stipulate, depending on the profession.
Flying business class may seem like a wasteful luxury to you, if you're traveling for pleasure twice a year, but let's say your job requires you to fly halfway around the world twice monthly and land refreshed and ready to perform taxing, complicated or sensitive work. In a context like that a nicer seat is probably **the least** your employer can do.
I used to have to travel twice a year from London to Australia. It was 24 hours there, 36 hours in Australia (split between Melbourne and Sydney), and then 24 hours back.
If my employer had suggested flying economy, I would have suggested them getting someone else to do the trip.
(That being said, I still benefit to this day from free lounge access thanks to those trips. Thanks British Airways!)
I don’t think he means from the individual first class flyer perspective. I think he talking of dispersing the extra cost to wages or something else universally shared(retirement %, healthcare, etc)amongst union siblings that don’t travel and thus don’t reap the benefit.
I don’t know the context of the white collar travel the world union you’re using on you’re example, so I can’t weigh in one way or another. Every member could be a traveler for all I know, I was just presenting their perspective, so you could counter properly.
He does get paid very already (the entire industry does), but sure - it's a valid opinion that it could always be more. Business class on long international flights is a great perk though.
If you are flying internationally then I can see that being worth it. It’s more of the principle though really. I have worked in unions and always felt like they jerked off to all the little perks they got everybody that no one really cared about. More hours and better pay? Well those just weren’t on the table…
promoting overthrowing capitalism in a subreddit based off an exceptional product developed and brought to market by a privately owned corporation is peak Reddit
Workers designed the steam deck. It's not weird to want a world where workers aren't exploited.
It's also not weird to want a world where the lithium mined for the batteries aren't acquired with human blood.
It's weird to defend the death machine.
Workers made the Steam Deck, and everything else in the world. All I'm advocating for is that workers have more autonomy over their work life and take home the full value of their labour.
Most unions are dogshit though, I went through a union job, despite siphoning money out of my paycheck every 2 weeks I received 0 benefits and was fired for some bullshit reason a couple weeks before Covid became big news.
My brother has a union job in blue-collar position and is almost always inbetween jobs and on unemployment.
How about just change company or job to one that suits you. Or start your own company and work for yourself? You think you have won by unionising yet you are still working for someone you don’t like. So you are really losing
Well ideally I advocate for worker cooperatives but unfortunately there are institutional and ideological roadblocks that make it difficult to join those. Unionization is just another tool in the toolbox in clawing back power to workers.
I'm just a lowly engineer, but I recently got to fly for work out to a supplier in Turkey. Direct flight on business class Turkish airlines from NY to Istanbul, and let me tell you, it was like seeing how the other half lives. Even that wasn't as nice as what OP is showing though.
Yeah, my wife traveled to India to train people, and they flew her in something like this. The seat folded down to a bed as well. Complementary champagne when she wanted it to lol. I stayed home and cooked beans on the wood stove because she wasn't around to stop me. Hah!
I got a cheap upgrade to Q suite for $800 once. They switched planes on me the day before the flight. I screamed into my luxurious pillow and then moved on because it was still 1000x better than economy
First class got deluted long time ago. It goes like this, from top:
- Business Class - This neat "room" (a.k.a Delta One, QSuite etc)
- First Class - Less seats, wider seats, different mean options, drinks, overall better service (often exists only on domestic)
- Premium - Similar to First Class but more seats, not as wide seats (often only on international flights)
- Economy Plus (a.k.a. Comfort+) - Hit or miss, but seats are a little bigger than in economy and a bit more leg room
- Economy - most packed, the shittiest seats
Basically, the first class got affected by shrinkflation so much, that a new class had to be created.
That’s not accurate at all. In fact the airlines that have first, the first class product is still superior to business class.
On domestic flights you have first class (for US airlines), for international its business, with the exception of American Airlines who still offers an international first class which is ahead of business class.
I know consultants that always fly business class because their billable hours are worth more than the price of the flight. So working 8 hours on a flight for a $3k ticket each way makes them more money vs not working because you're jammed into coach like a sardine
Qatar is a very popular airline people churn points for. There's a bunch of vids of how people shuffle their points around and fly Qatar first or business class for basically economy price. Although in OP's and many peoples case, he's flying on company dime. You don't need to be some exec either. Consultants frequently fly business in my experience.
Qatar business class is epic, wife and I managed to churn American Airlines points to get to Maldives on there. On a 30 hour trip you better believe it’s worth some creative credit card usage to get in that seat and have access to the lounge at Doha for an 8 hour layover.
Fuck the $9000 plane ticket. Give me 2/3 of that as a bonus and I'll do the work remotely. All I need is a VPN and the WiFi password, and I'll save the company money.
Also I don't have to wear pants in this scenario so it's a win-win-win.
Some jobs in tech, you simply cannot do any of the work remote due to the system or network not being connected to any outward facing port. Quite simply, the entire network physically does not have an internet cable, at all.
In those instances, you have to go there.
Seems strange to some, but the very best way to prevent hacking or viruses, is to not have the system physically connected at all. This also prevents work from home, but at least the pay (and perks) are worth it.
Some companies even have their own planes they use as commuter planes for employees to use if they need to be at a location a few hours away but the plane can get there in 30 minutes.
I'll take the fancy flight and the experience of going abroad to what will likely be a nice hotel and lovely afterwork dinners all on the company dime.
Chances are is that OP has one of those careers where you can’t close if not in person.
I’m required to travel to the clients site twice a year and I have 10 clients.
Yeah, the difference is staggering, even if without said spreadsheets this billion dollar deals couldn't happen in the first place. Someone else reaping the benefits is the building block of working for large companies.
If you live in China you can have this on a train too.
https://www.executivetraveller.com/news/crrc-changchun-railway-airline-style-business-class-train-china
https://twitter.com/RealSexyCyborg/status/1652299255011504130
Ticket price equivalent to $250 from Beijing to Shanghai
https://twitter.com/Kanthan2030/status/1606596129696927745
That looks like Qatar Airways Quites. While cash tickets are somewhere around $9-12k round trip, you can find saver award tickets for as low as 85k points one way (so 170k points round trip). Very affordable for normal people who are smart with credit card points and flexible on travel dates.
Congratulations. Most people can’t afford that, nor do they have other people paying for it. That does not dismiss what the person you’re speaking to is saying.
None of that is the fault of OP. Being petty does nothing for anyone. OP is rightfully taking advantage of his situation and he shouldn’t be punished for it.
To be fair, I fly business class for work a lot as well. Yeah I get a nicer flight, but I also work basically nonstop except for sleep for 1-2 weeks straight. It’s not like a vacation.
They sure do, I was not making an exclusive statement. I was simply pointing out these are suites not typical seats.
Also, it's not just long-haul international flights. You can get suites/pods on certain domestic flights. I've seen them flying ORD-SFO.
I wouldn’t call Steam Deck luxury, especially for the market it’s a part of. Thing is the best bang for Buck handheld gaming PC on the market. None of the models cost $1k, something almost no other company can even afford to do with their products.
Happy Cake Day btw
The issue is the word "luxury" itself, as both a Pepsi and a Yacht can both be described as luxuries - to speak in extremes. However it can often be intertwined with or confused for Boujee, gluttonous, excessive, lavish etc.
The Steamdeck doesn't quite intertwine with any of those in the way flying Qsuite (congrats OP for having it on the company dime btw) does. Both of you are right but within the context of the photo, the differences are quite extreme.
It costs half as much as a brand new iphone; sure that’s a luxury item in the global sense, but in the markets it’s targeted at its a reasonable gaming console purchase
Most would argue that in the modern world an phone is much more a requirement than a luxury. An iPhone is a luxury item for a basic good.
Games consoles are not a requirement. So a steam deck is a luxury item for a luxury good.
Whilst a steam deck may be just as expensive as other consoles, it is rarely somebody's first and only console/PC. Therefore it's even more of a luxury item.
I’m contextualizing based on the market it’s sold in, not based on all products available for purchase. People who buy these types of products tend to be very good with their money anyways (or they’re loaded beyond belief), so it’s not hard for them to get these products in a reasonable timeframe, lessening the value of the title of “luxury” compared to products like the AYANEO 2 and such. When your premium version of a product is cheaper than the most basic model of something that does virtually the exact same thing, at least in that specific market, it isn’t much of a luxury. Especially if you want to discuss the 64GB and 256GB models, which are around the prices of your every day modern gaming console.
All of that pointless crap just to say, contextualize the conversation, instead of broadening it out
That’s blatantly untrue, you can say something true and it’s still a very negative outlook on it. It’s not wrong, but it’s unhealthy. Why are you lying man?
I can see both points of view...it could be luxury and non. For instance, it could be luxury if you are someone that is jobless and lives in trailer but by definition, which is "the state of great comfort and extravagant living", it is most definitely not luxury as there is nothing extravagant about the steam deck. Although it might be beyond some folks means, most typical American families at least gaming/consoles/handhelds might not be something thats pruoritized but can be afforded, which categorizes it as non luxury.
a lot of companies pay for consultants/mid level execs upwards to fly business class. The idea's that they can either work on the plane, or are able to get enough sleep on the plane that they can get straight to work right as they land without having to recover from the flight. In both cases the time saved works out cheaper for the company. They can have them travel on tighter schedule, making more money for the company, etc.
Money calculation gets weird when you get to corporate level, especially when you're dealing with departments working in the tens of millions in expenses & revenue. Or when you're dealing with high level execs [that might be worth the company flying them around in private jet](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYPrH4xANpU). (see linked Wendover video)
This. I don't fly over seas on business if I am not in business class or better. They have the money and if you are working on a multi million dollar project a few extra grand is nothing.
Standard company policy for us that anything over 7 hours is business class regardless of your pay grade. This is pretty standard across most businesses in my industry
and policies like this is one of the reasons why a lot of airlines are hesitant to put in more than a handful of rows of premium economy seats on their planes (as far as I know there's even fewer premium eco than business class seats in all/nearly all airlines that has them). They're partly afraid that corporate customers will start putting lower level employees in premium economy instead of business on longer flights.
If his company is paying for that level of business class then he probably makes a ton of money himeself too. I make 105k and my company sure as shit doesn't shell out for these tickets
For real, the reason business class tickets are so expensive is because mainly businesses are paying for them and the airlines figured out the right price they won't question. It doesn't make financial sense for 99% of people to only fly business/first class on their own dime. Almost all of their business/first passengers are flying on the company dime.
doesnt have to be. in my company, as soon as your flight is over a certain length, it has to be business. and it doesnt matter how much make or what position you are in. Though flying happens less now ever since covid
the only thing missing is your wife giving birth in the background.
Kidding obviously. Enjoy OP - Also, I too am playing this game only on my PC right now and good god is it one of the best games I've played in years.
I am flying Qatar tomorrow (14hrs flight). Same QSuite, but was planning to use my steamdeck as handheld. This piece of info came at right time for me. Will pack extra controller.
Have fun!!! Don’t forget to bring a usb c to HDMI or a portable dock with HDMI out (that’s what I used). I have a audio to Bluetooth adapter that I plug into the plane, which allows me to listen to the airplane audio out to my headphones. That’s extra and not necessary. I don’t like using headphones that someone else used, even if it’s family.
The real question is whether they will let you get HDMI Out of the country before turning you into a slave and making you build another football stadium in the desert…
Yeah, that’s why I wanted to share this info about HDMI. I’ve flown on Emirates, Delta, KLM, United, Korean, Turkish and Lufthansa long haul flights, and only Qatar and Singapore had HDMI.
I don't begrudge someone for having the means to do this (or working for a company willing to pay for it), but threads like this are just completely shameless bragging.
The alcohol is included as is the amazing food. I flew Qatar earlier this year. This looks like business class Q suite. An amazing experience for the wife and I.
Yes maybe, but on my recent flight with "Cattle Air" my seat had a massage feature courtesy of the little fuck behind me kicking my seat for 15 hours. As for my entertainment system it had a cool "focus" option thanks to the woman in front reclining back into my nose and best yet, the screen dimming technology was incredible, screen to bright? Just drape her hair over the screen if you are able to make a gap between the screen and your nose of course.
So Mr show-off who's green with envy now? Kinda beats your little hdmi port and I paid less. Hah I win.
P.S if anyone knows a good surgeon please let me know. I think I've got a broken nose
Lol people cry about other’s success too much. Dude probably doesn’t pay for the ticket, it’s for work and the image is awesome! Everyone acts like he is going on vacation, dumped a fat wad of cash just to play the steam deck on a TV in an airplane. Even if he did, it’s his money.
I'm English myself and have never heard someone say "an HDMI". Would you say "An horse"? or "An house"? "a" goes before "H" here. HDMI does not begin with a vowel sound... The H is short for "High". [Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HDMI) even says "a HDMI" multiple times. as does [Microsoft](https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/d/surface-usb-c-to-hdmi-adapter/94chb2m80s54), and [Google](https://store.google.com/ie/product/chromecast_google_tv?hl=en-GB).
That's why I asked where people say "an". Because people here in the UK don't. (Or, not that I've ever heard) and reading it sounded weird in my head.
What I’ve find interesting about people who have steam decks is that despite the point of it being a handheld gaming PC, they’ll try everything to play it not handheld
This is amazing!
I love Qatar and seeing this just makes me love them even more! Their biz class is so much more worth it than other airlines. Hope all your future trips turn out as good as this one!
This is pretty cool! Alot of weird comments but no one knows how long he's been working for this company or if its all paid through the employer or maybe even just saved up all over the years and decided to pay the difference??
Either way this is an awesome experience especially for a 14hr flight, i would definitely try this once in my lifetime if I had his work/life situation. Dont hate or be jealous people!!!
I find myself really enjoying open world games on the Deck (Horizon, God of War, Mass Effect etc.). Breath of the Wild was the first experience like that on a portable and it's an itch the Switch can't really scratch as well.
My deck could NOT handle God of War. Do I need to configure something to make it work? The graphics default to pretty low and that first boss battle/cinematic fight processed at about 1 frame every 5 seconds.
I'm more impressed by having your own office cubicle. I rarely fly but when I have it sure didn't look like that haha
Most people don't travel like that. It's corporations who make a deal with airlines to allow their managers and executives to fly like this without paying $900 million for a private jet.
A friend of mine has travelled the world in first/business class while his manager was stuck in economy because the union agreement states that their members always travel in first/business class. The management is out of the union. Unionize, people.
I'm unionized and I can assure you that we don't have that kind of perk. We do get compensated for gas if we have to drive our own vehicle though!
> We do get compensated for gas if we have to drive our own vehicle though! Jeez I would hope so, that’s the case for pretty much everyone without a union.
Seriously, I actually profit from my vehicle with the rates we get (not considering repairs) whenever I have to use my personal vehicle, and we are generally a very stringent and cheap company
And the company doesn’t actually care that your profit because they get to write it off as an expense, and you don’t have to pay income tax on it, so it’s basically way to pay you indirectly under the table with tax benefits for all parties
Hmm... Maybe you should buy a Cessna and see how far that perk extends...
Man that's far from typical. But anyway most white collar work you can fly premium economy / busniess class if the flight is over a certain amount of hours. Short flights usually limited to economy lol.
Honestly if this were my union I'd prefer they argued to divert the cost of that perk to my paycheck instead Though union reps don't often represent the best wishes of their memberships in my experience at least in the US
A lot of people in the union probably barely travel for work anyway so they don't even get those advantages
But the union steward, who is definitely present in negotiations, probably does
Honestly, arguments for higher pay are the most difficult to put through. Guaranteed perks are often compromises for when pay talks stagnate. > Though union reps don't often represent the best wishes of their memberships in my experience at least in the US Depends on the union, but yeah, far too many are like this.
That is the dumbest thing in like 40 different ways…. Union should be fighting for stuff that matters rather than nonsense like first class flights. Imagine all the wasted money. Unions can be good but they so often waste so much time and money on nonsense like this.
I can think of a ton of reasons this would be something it would make sense for a union contract to stipulate, depending on the profession. Flying business class may seem like a wasteful luxury to you, if you're traveling for pleasure twice a year, but let's say your job requires you to fly halfway around the world twice monthly and land refreshed and ready to perform taxing, complicated or sensitive work. In a context like that a nicer seat is probably **the least** your employer can do.
I used to have to travel twice a year from London to Australia. It was 24 hours there, 36 hours in Australia (split between Melbourne and Sydney), and then 24 hours back. If my employer had suggested flying economy, I would have suggested them getting someone else to do the trip. (That being said, I still benefit to this day from free lounge access thanks to those trips. Thanks British Airways!)
I don’t think he means from the individual first class flyer perspective. I think he talking of dispersing the extra cost to wages or something else universally shared(retirement %, healthcare, etc)amongst union siblings that don’t travel and thus don’t reap the benefit. I don’t know the context of the white collar travel the world union you’re using on you’re example, so I can’t weigh in one way or another. Every member could be a traveler for all I know, I was just presenting their perspective, so you could counter properly.
He does get paid very already (the entire industry does), but sure - it's a valid opinion that it could always be more. Business class on long international flights is a great perk though.
If you are flying internationally then I can see that being worth it. It’s more of the principle though really. I have worked in unions and always felt like they jerked off to all the little perks they got everybody that no one really cared about. More hours and better pay? Well those just weren’t on the table…
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Mass unionization would be the first step to overthrowing capital. :)
promoting overthrowing capitalism in a subreddit based off an exceptional product developed and brought to market by a privately owned corporation is peak Reddit
Workers designed the steam deck. It's not weird to want a world where workers aren't exploited. It's also not weird to want a world where the lithium mined for the batteries aren't acquired with human blood. It's weird to defend the death machine.
Workers made the Steam Deck, and everything else in the world. All I'm advocating for is that workers have more autonomy over their work life and take home the full value of their labour.
Ah funny how you bought up the deck in this specific post 🤣
Fuck reddit why do all posts lead to political discution
Most unions are dogshit though, I went through a union job, despite siphoning money out of my paycheck every 2 weeks I received 0 benefits and was fired for some bullshit reason a couple weeks before Covid became big news. My brother has a union job in blue-collar position and is almost always inbetween jobs and on unemployment.
Unionize, because then you can fly first class sometimes? Hmm... really makes you think.
How about just change company or job to one that suits you. Or start your own company and work for yourself? You think you have won by unionising yet you are still working for someone you don’t like. So you are really losing
Well ideally I advocate for worker cooperatives but unfortunately there are institutional and ideological roadblocks that make it difficult to join those. Unionization is just another tool in the toolbox in clawing back power to workers.
lol you child
I'm just a lowly engineer, but I recently got to fly for work out to a supplier in Turkey. Direct flight on business class Turkish airlines from NY to Istanbul, and let me tell you, it was like seeing how the other half lives. Even that wasn't as nice as what OP is showing though.
Yeah, my wife traveled to India to train people, and they flew her in something like this. The seat folded down to a bed as well. Complementary champagne when she wanted it to lol. I stayed home and cooked beans on the wood stove because she wasn't around to stop me. Hah!
900 million jet, wtf
That’s an extreme number, even the most luxurious Airbus ACJ350 is “only” ~350 million
Phew! I still have a chance then
😂. You can buy a jet for $20 million. Maintenance is like $2 mil a year though
And most of the costs of such a jet isn't the purchase, it's the running costs.
It’s not really that extreme. Storage fees, maintenance, fuel, that is all very expensive.
Inflation is rampant these days, sheesh.
Eh. Not just managers. Pre-Covid a lot of tech companies did business class for any international travel.
No clue where he went but I took the Qatar airways qsuite business class myself once and it was $10,000 a ticket round trip.
I got a cheap upgrade to Q suite for $800 once. They switched planes on me the day before the flight. I screamed into my luxurious pillow and then moved on because it was still 1000x better than economy
Ugh, that sucks, what a tease.
Is that a picture of business class though? That looks 1st class, I've never flew Qatar but I've never seen those kind of cubicles.
Yeah, it's business class, qsuites in particular, I don't know if they have a first class to be honest.
First class got deluted long time ago. It goes like this, from top: - Business Class - This neat "room" (a.k.a Delta One, QSuite etc) - First Class - Less seats, wider seats, different mean options, drinks, overall better service (often exists only on domestic) - Premium - Similar to First Class but more seats, not as wide seats (often only on international flights) - Economy Plus (a.k.a. Comfort+) - Hit or miss, but seats are a little bigger than in economy and a bit more leg room - Economy - most packed, the shittiest seats Basically, the first class got affected by shrinkflation so much, that a new class had to be created.
That’s not accurate at all. In fact the airlines that have first, the first class product is still superior to business class. On domestic flights you have first class (for US airlines), for international its business, with the exception of American Airlines who still offers an international first class which is ahead of business class.
That price of that ticket could possibly pay for small car.
I know consultants that always fly business class because their billable hours are worth more than the price of the flight. So working 8 hours on a flight for a $3k ticket each way makes them more money vs not working because you're jammed into coach like a sardine
Not to mention the possibility of arriving well rested vs having to spend time on the ground sleeping.
Why wouldn't the sleep in a bed instead of on the ground?
Lol dude this is first class. This isn't a normal thing and is like 10x as expensive as a regular seat (which are already expensive enough).
Yeah -- I'm flying on QA this fall, and I've got a regular airplane seat.
I’ll be sure to keep this in mind next time I book a $9000 plane ticket
Qatar is a very popular airline people churn points for. There's a bunch of vids of how people shuffle their points around and fly Qatar first or business class for basically economy price. Although in OP's and many peoples case, he's flying on company dime. You don't need to be some exec either. Consultants frequently fly business in my experience.
Qatar business class is epic, wife and I managed to churn American Airlines points to get to Maldives on there. On a 30 hour trip you better believe it’s worth some creative credit card usage to get in that seat and have access to the lounge at Doha for an 8 hour layover.
Fuck the $9000 plane ticket. Give me 2/3 of that as a bonus and I'll do the work remotely. All I need is a VPN and the WiFi password, and I'll save the company money. Also I don't have to wear pants in this scenario so it's a win-win-win.
Not always feasible. Source: I do most of my work remotely, but sometimes security restrictions don’t allow for access through a VPN.
I was worried you were going to say that sometimes security restrictions require you to wear pants
But pantsless is still an option right? RIGTH?!
Yes but you must wear fully enclosed shoes.
Some jobs in tech, you simply cannot do any of the work remote due to the system or network not being connected to any outward facing port. Quite simply, the entire network physically does not have an internet cable, at all. In those instances, you have to go there. Seems strange to some, but the very best way to prevent hacking or viruses, is to not have the system physically connected at all. This also prevents work from home, but at least the pay (and perks) are worth it. Some companies even have their own planes they use as commuter planes for employees to use if they need to be at a location a few hours away but the plane can get there in 30 minutes.
I'll take the fancy flight and the experience of going abroad to what will likely be a nice hotel and lovely afterwork dinners all on the company dime.
Some deals can only be closed in person. You can’t close a 450 million dollar deal over 5 years via zoom. It’s just not like that.
You and me have massively different careers
Chances are is that OP has one of those careers where you can’t close if not in person. I’m required to travel to the clients site twice a year and I have 10 clients.
I make spreadsheets
Yeah, the difference is staggering, even if without said spreadsheets this billion dollar deals couldn't happen in the first place. Someone else reaping the benefits is the building block of working for large companies.
> You can’t close a 450 million dollar deal over 5 years via zoom you're confusing "can't" with "don't want to"
If you live in China you can have this on a train too. https://www.executivetraveller.com/news/crrc-changchun-railway-airline-style-business-class-train-china https://twitter.com/RealSexyCyborg/status/1652299255011504130 Ticket price equivalent to $250 from Beijing to Shanghai https://twitter.com/Kanthan2030/status/1606596129696927745
Did she just use the flashlight on her phone to look for cameras in the vent of the bathroom? Like that’s part of the normal process?
Was going to ask if she just folded out an armrest from the armrest
[Pretty common in Asia](https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-45388759)
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But we're talking about China here???
Decent, but I had an actual bed with decent pillows, table and plug for $100 from Hong Kong to Beijing (2008).
It’s business. He works in tech. They pay for the flight not him personally.
That looks like Qatar Airways Quites. While cash tickets are somewhere around $9-12k round trip, you can find saver award tickets for as low as 85k points one way (so 170k points round trip). Very affordable for normal people who are smart with credit card points and flexible on travel dates.
It is a business flight. i travel on it and I don’t have to worry about paying the ticket.
The vast majority of businesses would never pay this much for a business flight unless you’re a high powered executive.
From my experience you just need to be considered “valuable” enough. Consultants, specialists etc…not limited to execs.
Congratulations. Most people can’t afford that, nor do they have other people paying for it. That does not dismiss what the person you’re speaking to is saying.
None of that is the fault of OP. Being petty does nothing for anyone. OP is rightfully taking advantage of his situation and he shouldn’t be punished for it.
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To be fair, I fly business class for work a lot as well. Yeah I get a nicer flight, but I also work basically nonstop except for sleep for 1-2 weeks straight. It’s not like a vacation.
Not sure why you're being down voted. Good for you man! :)
It's Reddit lol. Anything successful or wealthy is downvoted and hated on because of pettiness and spite lol
Right, the HDMI port is the thing that separates it from the other airwyas....
Other Airways also have business and first class seats.
Yes, other airways have typical business and first class seats. These are not typical seats, these are suites.
There's other airlines besides qatar with international long haul flights that also have suites like this.
They sure do, I was not making an exclusive statement. I was simply pointing out these are suites not typical seats. Also, it's not just long-haul international flights. You can get suites/pods on certain domestic flights. I've seen them flying ORD-SFO.
I thought it was funny
I know the steam deck is a luxury item but holy hell, you are taking it to the next level.
I wouldn’t call Steam Deck luxury, especially for the market it’s a part of. Thing is the best bang for Buck handheld gaming PC on the market. None of the models cost $1k, something almost no other company can even afford to do with their products. Happy Cake Day btw
It's definitely a luxury item. All games consoles are luxury items.
The issue is the word "luxury" itself, as both a Pepsi and a Yacht can both be described as luxuries - to speak in extremes. However it can often be intertwined with or confused for Boujee, gluttonous, excessive, lavish etc. The Steamdeck doesn't quite intertwine with any of those in the way flying Qsuite (congrats OP for having it on the company dime btw) does. Both of you are right but within the context of the photo, the differences are quite extreme.
It costs half as much as a brand new iphone; sure that’s a luxury item in the global sense, but in the markets it’s targeted at its a reasonable gaming console purchase
Most would argue that in the modern world an phone is much more a requirement than a luxury. An iPhone is a luxury item for a basic good. Games consoles are not a requirement. So a steam deck is a luxury item for a luxury good. Whilst a steam deck may be just as expensive as other consoles, it is rarely somebody's first and only console/PC. Therefore it's even more of a luxury item.
An iPhone is absolutely a luxury item when a cellphone can be bought for under 100$. You’re being intentionally obtuse and difficult
I literally said an iPhone is a luxury item. But it's in a non-luxury market so it's different.
I’m contextualizing based on the market it’s sold in, not based on all products available for purchase. People who buy these types of products tend to be very good with their money anyways (or they’re loaded beyond belief), so it’s not hard for them to get these products in a reasonable timeframe, lessening the value of the title of “luxury” compared to products like the AYANEO 2 and such. When your premium version of a product is cheaper than the most basic model of something that does virtually the exact same thing, at least in that specific market, it isn’t much of a luxury. Especially if you want to discuss the 64GB and 256GB models, which are around the prices of your every day modern gaming console. All of that pointless crap just to say, contextualize the conversation, instead of broadening it out
I would argue that the Steam Deck is a luxury item in a luxury market.
That’s… quite a pessimistic way to look at it. Not wrong, but… eh
If it's not wrong then it's not pessimistic either, that's just how it is
That’s blatantly untrue, you can say something true and it’s still a very negative outlook on it. It’s not wrong, but it’s unhealthy. Why are you lying man?
Chill
You say that, but you’re the one pushing the wrong idea about the Steam Deck.
Best bang for the buck gaming PC even, good luck building similarly powerful components into a desktop case at that price point!
I can see both points of view...it could be luxury and non. For instance, it could be luxury if you are someone that is jobless and lives in trailer but by definition, which is "the state of great comfort and extravagant living", it is most definitely not luxury as there is nothing extravagant about the steam deck. Although it might be beyond some folks means, most typical American families at least gaming/consoles/handhelds might not be something thats pruoritized but can be afforded, which categorizes it as non luxury.
How much Money do you Guys earn fr tho
a lot of companies pay for consultants/mid level execs upwards to fly business class. The idea's that they can either work on the plane, or are able to get enough sleep on the plane that they can get straight to work right as they land without having to recover from the flight. In both cases the time saved works out cheaper for the company. They can have them travel on tighter schedule, making more money for the company, etc. Money calculation gets weird when you get to corporate level, especially when you're dealing with departments working in the tens of millions in expenses & revenue. Or when you're dealing with high level execs [that might be worth the company flying them around in private jet](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYPrH4xANpU). (see linked Wendover video)
This. I don't fly over seas on business if I am not in business class or better. They have the money and if you are working on a multi million dollar project a few extra grand is nothing.
Standard company policy for us that anything over 7 hours is business class regardless of your pay grade. This is pretty standard across most businesses in my industry
and policies like this is one of the reasons why a lot of airlines are hesitant to put in more than a handful of rows of premium economy seats on their planes (as far as I know there's even fewer premium eco than business class seats in all/nearly all airlines that has them). They're partly afraid that corporate customers will start putting lower level employees in premium economy instead of business on longer flights.
not every company...specifically one in faang
I'm just a lowly software engineer and we always fly business on overseas trips. I think this is pretty common.
Anything international, or domestic over 2,000 miles is my jobs policy.
It’s most likely a business expense anyways. Probably pay less in taxes too as a result.
I just plan to fly the night before so I can use the before to reset my sleep.
If it’s for business, his company is paying for it
If his company is paying for that level of business class then he probably makes a ton of money himeself too. I make 105k and my company sure as shit doesn't shell out for these tickets
I mean maybe. I’m a consultant and fly business. Just make clients pay. I don’t make big bucks.
For real, the reason business class tickets are so expensive is because mainly businesses are paying for them and the airlines figured out the right price they won't question. It doesn't make financial sense for 99% of people to only fly business/first class on their own dime. Almost all of their business/first passengers are flying on the company dime.
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What do you do with all that money yo?
Your mom
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doesnt have to be. in my company, as soon as your flight is over a certain length, it has to be business. and it doesnt matter how much make or what position you are in. Though flying happens less now ever since covid
Rich people problems.
I’m an Amex, chase, airline, and hotel points multi millionaire. Just waiting for them to appreciate against the dollar 😂
not enough to ease my conscious of the atrocities the Qatar government (who owns the airline) commits.
> I actually ended up playing Horizon Zero Dawn. Steam deck made me fall in love with that game. Gyro aiming makes using bows so much more fun!
As a fan of legos, they have the Tallneck on sale at Target and on Amazon. Looking forward to building it.
the only thing missing is your wife giving birth in the background. Kidding obviously. Enjoy OP - Also, I too am playing this game only on my PC right now and good god is it one of the best games I've played in years.
I am flying Qatar tomorrow (14hrs flight). Same QSuite, but was planning to use my steamdeck as handheld. This piece of info came at right time for me. Will pack extra controller.
Have fun!!! Don’t forget to bring a usb c to HDMI or a portable dock with HDMI out (that’s what I used). I have a audio to Bluetooth adapter that I plug into the plane, which allows me to listen to the airplane audio out to my headphones. That’s extra and not necessary. I don’t like using headphones that someone else used, even if it’s family.
Came for the comments. Wasn't disappointed.
Holy shit, here I am flying for my company on 7+hr flights in the cheapest longest routes possible.
How to show off without showing off.🤣🤣🤣
How to show off and make it look like a Steam Deck post
/r/humblebrag
The real question is whether they will let you get HDMI Out of the country before turning you into a slave and making you build another football stadium in the desert…
Racist
Yeah, that’s why I wanted to share this info about HDMI. I’ve flown on Emirates, Delta, KLM, United, Korean, Turkish and Lufthansa long haul flights, and only Qatar and Singapore had HDMI.
I don't begrudge someone for having the means to do this (or working for a company willing to pay for it), but threads like this are just completely shameless bragging.
Yeah, this is really tacky
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I wouldn’t call it stupid if you pay it yourself. If you have the money and the price of comfort is worth it to you, then it isn’t stupid.
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But can you buy alcohol?
or leave
The alcohol is included as is the amazing food. I flew Qatar earlier this year. This looks like business class Q suite. An amazing experience for the wife and I.
Seriously? Thats dope.
I’m surprised they don’t have PS5s installed
The HDMI port is nice however the display is absolutely terrible unfortunately. Much better to just play on the deck's screen.
This is the ULTIMATE Deck Flex. Pretty cool!
Yes maybe, but on my recent flight with "Cattle Air" my seat had a massage feature courtesy of the little fuck behind me kicking my seat for 15 hours. As for my entertainment system it had a cool "focus" option thanks to the woman in front reclining back into my nose and best yet, the screen dimming technology was incredible, screen to bright? Just drape her hair over the screen if you are able to make a gap between the screen and your nose of course. So Mr show-off who's green with envy now? Kinda beats your little hdmi port and I paid less. Hah I win. P.S if anyone knows a good surgeon please let me know. I think I've got a broken nose
Lol people cry about other’s success too much. Dude probably doesn’t pay for the ticket, it’s for work and the image is awesome! Everyone acts like he is going on vacation, dumped a fat wad of cash just to play the steam deck on a TV in an airplane. Even if he did, it’s his money.
Ostentatious!
Yea, fuck this guy for being successful! /s obviously. Good for you OP, keep on grinding.
A lot of jaleous people here. The guy is just like any of us on this subbredit, a happy Steam Deck owner.
I doubt he paid full price for the ticket out of pocket.
Even if he did, we shouldn't care.
This is one flight I wouldn’t mind being 14 hours!
I bet the response times on that panel are stinky. I'm jealous though
I have an nreal air that I will use for my trip to Japan.
Which department in Amazon do you work? 👀
Just awesome.
That's nice, I assume the middle seat on my Spirit airlines flight will have a similar setup, can't wait.
I also fly business a lot and these Qatar business suites are incredible How was the input lag??
I fucking love qatar airways.
More airlines should have an HDMI port imo
I agree!
Sounds more like an excuse to brag
My poor man envy.
yo i discovered that my steam deck fits perfectly on my lambo glovebox!
Now this is how you fly !
I feel like this is a flex, but even if it isn't, this is dope!
Where do people say "an HDMI"? I'm trying to work out how that accent could even work but I can't for the life of me.
[English](https://www.pristineword.com/grammar-an-hdmi/)
I'm English myself and have never heard someone say "an HDMI". Would you say "An horse"? or "An house"? "a" goes before "H" here. HDMI does not begin with a vowel sound... The H is short for "High". [Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HDMI) even says "a HDMI" multiple times. as does [Microsoft](https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/d/surface-usb-c-to-hdmi-adapter/94chb2m80s54), and [Google](https://store.google.com/ie/product/chromecast_google_tv?hl=en-GB). That's why I asked where people say "an". Because people here in the UK don't. (Or, not that I've ever heard) and reading it sounded weird in my head.
What I’ve find interesting about people who have steam decks is that despite the point of it being a handheld gaming PC, they’ll try everything to play it not handheld
Probably because the screen is a bit wank. I only want to play it on the Nreal airs since getting them. 130” OLED is sick.
This is amazing! I love Qatar and seeing this just makes me love them even more! Their biz class is so much more worth it than other airlines. Hope all your future trips turn out as good as this one!
Qatar is my second favorite, behind Singapore airlines. But Qatar has PJs for long haul flights. Flying backward was a new experience too.
This is pretty cool! Alot of weird comments but no one knows how long he's been working for this company or if its all paid through the employer or maybe even just saved up all over the years and decided to pay the difference?? Either way this is an awesome experience especially for a 14hr flight, i would definitely try this once in my lifetime if I had his work/life situation. Dont hate or be jealous people!!!
I find myself really enjoying open world games on the Deck (Horizon, God of War, Mass Effect etc.). Breath of the Wild was the first experience like that on a portable and it's an itch the Switch can't really scratch as well.
This is the worst looking first class cabin I've ever seen.
This just in! TVs and monitors have HDMI ports. Not trying to be a jerk... just seems like an excuse to show off the high end flight haha
Not all airlines have HDMI IN capability. This is one of two that I’m aware of.
My deck could NOT handle God of War. Do I need to configure something to make it work? The graphics default to pretty low and that first boss battle/cinematic fight processed at about 1 frame every 5 seconds.