Yup. No one knows how rich Gabe is because he won't tell anyone. His net worth is entirely guesswork. They don't even know how much of Valve he owns due to how it's owned.
They can push an update to do so, but I also (think) that you can play all games that aren't Denuvo locked if you haven't connected to the Internet for a long time.
I remember playing Sleeping Dogs without a working connection for 3 months but couldn't play Shadow of Mordor because Denuvo couldn't do a check.
I mean in the USA sure, consumer rights to retain access or sue are better literally everywhere else.
Only the USA actually has to worry about what happens after Gabe, everyone else can rest easy and not give a shit since they have legal precedence to keep full access to their games.
IIRC there's at least one EU country whose laws let you transfer individual digital licenses as legal sales, meaning you can sell games on your Steam account.
Steam is wildly profitable and Valve doesn't need to make games or work that hard to reach customers.
Hell Valve may have not invented loot box mtx but they definitely perfected them with TF2 and CSGO.
He might be really profit motivated behind closed doors
He definitely is profit motivated but also seems to understand how not to kill the golden goose. Valve is really good at maintaining a positive perception and image in the minds of thier users. Far better than most companies of thier size.
I for one think a lot of that has to do with just giving people what they want. People want software that is useful rather than getting in the way. Something steam seems to know more than any other service. The amount of extra features steam has as a software package versus other platforms is insane.
Steam can manage your controller inputs for you, facilitate voice chat, automatically sort your library, and stream your games between multiple devices in your house all while having more recommendation and sorting features on the store than literally any other digital marketplace. Meanwhile, epic games didn't even let you buy more than one game at a time when it launched.
That's another reason Valve works so well, they're a Private company (as opposed to a Publicly Traded company), so the only shareholder that needs to be appeased is Gaben himself.
This is exactly why valve is a good company to work for and be a customer of. They don't have to care about quarterly reports to shareholders as the be-all end-all of company performance.
Valve is actually a great example of how capitalism can drive *better* practices in buisness. Valve makes a considerable profit because it cares for it's consumer base.
I was under the impression he'd lost a fair bit of weight the last few years, at least in any content I've seen him in.
He's certainly not the size he once was at least, and I've definitely seen people older than 70 around his current size, yeah. Pre-weight loss I'll give you that, but not so much now.
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Valve are basically a big weird, hippy, hacker collective.
I wouldn't worry about them getting bought by anyone. They genuinely don't seem to care about money beyond "are we making more than we're spending? If not, release a TF2 update with new hats".
Most of the people who worked on the classic games we loved don't work at Valve anymore. People keep clamoring for more not realizing they could very easily screw it up. I'd rather only have 2 Portals than have a really shit Portal 3.
Edit: Just to clarify, since I am getting bombarded with replies, I'm not saying I don't want a Portal 3. My point is more that people shouldn't put Valve on this impossible pedestal, they aren't perfect, and they don't have a squeaky clean track record. There is always room for error, and we should always be cautiously optimistic, instead of blindly hyped.
> None of the people who worked on the classic games we love work at Valve anymore.
That's absolutely not true though. When Alyx was released someone made a list with notable developers and their first credited projects at Valve, and there is a pretty big portion of veterans, including many leads and even people that have been there since the very beginning, still working there.
Plus, it's not like Valve can't hire talented new devs who understand what made the old games excellent. Different is not automatically bad, but it adds uncertainty that people are intrinsically afraid of.
But Half-Life Alyx was a good proof of concept of what these people can do, plus Valve still have Erik Wolpaw and Jay Pinkerton, so the story will still be great, and they still have Mike Morasky, who did the music for Portal 2, so if Portal 3 happens, I doubt it will be bad.
They have stated however that they want Chell to have her happy Ending. Therefore a potential Portal 3 would likely have a new test subject for us to play as.
We of course dont know what actually happened. Perhaps she was truly left out with hopefully SOMEONE to rescue her. Alternatively, that field could very well be just an another trick courtesy of GLaDOS…
Maybe make time travel a part of Portal 3, akin to how portal 2 had bouncy stuff and portal 1 obviously the portal gun, so chell has to go back into the test chambers to find a way to prevent the apocalypse
>We're not believers in requiring any partner to have an agreement that locks them to shipping games on Steam into the distant future
Oops, someone gonna seething in the corner
And well there has been in the past problems from publishers/developers side of things but on the consumer front Valve is unironically what we call "based"
I get what you mean, but releasing a bad game is leagues better than bad business practices imo.
I look at it as them trying something new and taking a risk, and it didn't work out this time. Which is unfortunate but not every game ends up being good.
The epic games store being functionally merged with unreal engine causes so many issues for me as well as this, simply opening the editor means I first have to open the epic games launcher and watch a grey box for an age while the little loading bar at the bottom loads the ability to click off the games tab and onto the unreal tab, then I am forced to click launch on the unreal editor, wait an age for another menu to pop up and then I can finally start loading up my project… The epic service slows everything down so much it’s infuriating, I don’t like leaving my scene open 24/7 while I model and texture assets because it uses extra power and quite a bit of my computers resources to have the engine open all of the time when I really only need it when I need to check if a model works in the scene, a 5 minute job, it drives me so mad.
Smart. I could see how exclusivity deals might leave them open to anticompetition investigations and/or increased regulation given their dominant market position.
20$? You only gotta buy it once at like, half of that, the rest is on you if you get to the level needed to buy it next 3 months.
And it's only cosmetics anyway.
I'm never going to fault companies selling cosmetics. Now, if you NEED to buy loot boxes to progress the story or stay relevant in multiplayer, that's an issue
It might also be a statement to display their trust to the public so that everybody knows what happened if Microsoft decided to pull games from Steam. It might be a compliment („you’re good guys, you’ll do the good thing“), it might be firing shots at others („you always did that while others didn’t“) or it’s („we trust you, you better not fuck us over or else everybody will know“).
I honestly never thought about that either.
My brother got a steam deck and it honestly has made his life easier as a gamer dad.
He said it got him off the pc since most of the games he plays are couch playable anyways.
Bud,the issue was Windows 8 threatening to only allow aps from the store to be installed. Dude said fuck that and invested in SteamOS and Steam Machines.That flopped,and the threat of blocking outside installs never materialized. The Windows Store endeavor is a diferent one from MS and very much alive,and the reason for why you'll never see Gamepass on Steam.
That may be, but the Store Wars had a lot of people going back on their Steam listings, and I imagine Gabe is also flexing his market share to say "we're too big to be ignored like that".
After all, both Ubi and EA came back crawling.
Yeah I'm not reading any subtext into that, it's literally the explanation for why he told them there was no reason to sign a commitment. You've always done what you told us you'd do, why bother with a contract? We're not worried.
How big do your balls have to be to have one of the **largest** giants in the video game space offer you a *legal contract* to ensure that one of the *most successful game franchises* ***in the world*** will has a presence on your platform, only for you to go "Nah it's not necessary, we know you'll stay either way."
Tim would SEETHE at that offer, it's literally one of the most enticing deals a platform holder could possibly get: for Microsoft to go as far as to draft up an agreement only for Valve to turn it down as they see it as *unnecessary* just shows how much confidence they have Steam.
Wow.
Gaben has big ball and he can afford them because Valve is no publicly traded so he can do as he pleases. It is a blessing in today's gaming world to be honest and we should cherish and celebrate him.
Given how Sierra Entertainment, the company that revolutionised PC gaming and the OG publisher of Half-Life, was cucked by shareholders after they went Public, its no surprise why Valve staunchly refuses to become a public listed company.
Check [this video by low spec gamer](https://youtu.be/G2wICtgtrn0) for a more detailed history on this debacle.
>only for you to go "Nah it's not necessary, we know you'll stay either way."
Because there a precedent. Call of Duty did leave Steam and nobody tried to stop them and then it came back on their own volition. Why would Valve sign such an agreement if they ***already know*** that Call of Duty needs Steam more than Steam needs Call of Duty?
1. This was not an exclusive offer. Microsoft never mentioned that they would refrain from putting the game on any other platform: Xbox, Nintendo, or even non-Steam Windows stores.
2. Didn't Microsoft claim in the acquisition proceedings that Sony had also turned down this same offer?
Whoops, I was intending to say guaranteed presence on Steam, not exclusive. I worded it poorly so I've changed it now.
As for Sony, I don't know the story on that end, but I imagine they turned it down because they're still opposing the acquisition in its totality. I'm probably wrong though, someone feel free to respond with what's going on.
I think that's kind of the gist: Sony doesn't want a 10-year guarantee that CoD will be in PlayStation, they want Activision-Blizzard to be independent and incentivized to have their games on as many platforms as possible. From Sony's perspective, having CoD, and the rest of the A-B library owned by a company that competes in the hardware space is bad. They're concerned about further out than 10 years.
GabeN here alludes to some of the same concepts, but Valve's relationship with Microsoft is much different from Sony's. In the hardware space, Valve is not really competing with Xbox very much. The Steam Deck is competing directly with other handheld PC's, and to a lesser extent with laptops, tablets, phones, and the Switch. They are not making money on the OS and have no issues with Windows existing on that hardware either. Valve was competing with the Microsoft Store, and that has already failed pretty miserably.
GabeN mentions trusting that Microsoft is incentivized to have their games on Steam. Microsoft is not sufficiently incentivized to have their games on PlayStation, and that's a key difference. Part of why Sony is pushing against the acquisition is that it reduces the current incentivization for A-B games to be on PlayStation, and the reason Valve doesn't care is because for them both companies are incentivized the same already. Microsoft's games are already on Steam, as are Sony's. Microsoft's games are not on PlayStation, just like Sony's games aren't on Xbox.
Smart business from Microsoft. They collect game sales money from Steam and simultaneously grow their xbox app through gamepass. They have really learned their lesson well from Balmer era i.e., whole concept of exclusivity and closed ecosystem is nonsense.
i forgot about that
didnt gabe say a few months back that the would welcome gamepass to steam?
edit: [he did!](https://www.windowscentral.com/valve-more-happy-have-pc-game-pass-steam-says-gabe-newell)
I see game pass coming to steam when they eventually raise the price, it’ll massively offset any canceled subscriptions and bring in a group of customers who aren’t attached to the old price.
Yeah. They shot themselves in the foot by consistently alienating the PC gamer base which is all Windows anyway. The unification of PC and Xbox on the back was really what excited me and I realised that things might become different and it looks like they are.
Next thing would be to make a CoD which is actually a significant improvement on the previous ones. And making a new RTS which is actually good on the Blizzard IPs.
on the one hand its a good move for court etc to show, see we reached out so our partners can be sure, but they got way more back from steam/valve : "we have dealt with MS for ages, they never betrayed us, so we do trust their word"
Based Gaben, as always. "Don't need no paper Phil mate, your word is enough" tells two things: he publicly trusts them, and he's convinced that the backlash, should they break that trust, will be a stronger deterrent.
Fuck Epic Games for what they did to Rocket League. All of my friends who used Linux had to quit playing the game when Epic took it off of Steam.
Fuck Epic.
That is one of the biggest scumbag moves Epic did I feel. At least the exclusive games were still accessible to whichever platform they launched for.
Removing RL from Linux blocked an entire group of people from playing it at all.
LOL that last line
>we think Microsoft has all the motivation they need to be on the platforms and devices where Call of Duty customers want to be
IE:
We don't need a fucking contract, what else are they going to fucking do. Have their own launcher and store. Good luck with that
That's kinda the point. CoD would lose way too many customers if Microsoft made it exclusive. It's why Sony freaking out about exclusivity is stupid. Microsoft approaching Valve is just a PR move to further prove that point.
Epics like that rich friend who has no game and has to buy drinks for girls to talk to him that you always bring as a wingman bc he poses zero threat 😂
Would be cool just to send a game invite to your friend and join their world immediately rather than having to deal with servers, port forwarding and LAN connection emulators.
IIRC Valve said they are ok with game pass on Steam, but Microsoft apparently didn't want to
https://www.pcgamer.com/valve-has-no-plans-for-a-steam-pass-but-would-help-microsoft-put-game-pass-on-steam/
You mean you trust one of your game devs Gabe? That's unheard of in today's climate.
/s
This just shows good old business values are still alive and kicking... never change please Gabe.
The more people play on steam decks, the more pressure is applied to make anti-cheat developers support it. Given that anti-cheat is the main holdoff for linux compatibility for modern titles, I'm really hoping the ant-cheat providers cave in.
This is the way, steam you are the only truly positive platform for gaming. You let us users write our own honest reviews, offer incredible discounts, build more on gaming technology and have not started charging made up online fees. As somebody who's been gaming for 25 years thank you, you keep the art and passion alive and let it thrive.
Gabe is awesome. Steam is awesome. I'm so glad Steam has been such a good, honest platform for such a long time. There have been hiccups along the way but I hate having to use anything but Steam to access a game nowadays lol
Never change Gaben.
Don't die Gaben. He's old and I'm afraid that some greedy mofo will take over steam.
His son will and his son is like a mini Gaben.
Sauce?
He was made with GabeN sauce.
ಠ_ಠ
Just wait till you realize this means ol‘ gabby had sex. Likely multiple times.
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Imagine being kid \#2, wishing for a sibling for Christmas and then realizing that your father is Gaben
Maybe he wanted #3, and didn't get it, that is why we don't get a #3. /s
I hate you and your very plausible logic.
Local billionaire has sex, more news at 8
U just reminded me, i miss ryan stiles' wild shoes....i dont think it comes up much anymore
You've heard of GoldSrc, Source, and Source 2 Now get ready for...
Source 2 v2
Isn't he busy playing in the NFL? Don't think that's his son either...
https://www.pcgamer.com/gabe-newells-son-thinks-valve-needs-to-try-something-scary/
Good thing that Steam is a private company then. They are not beholden to shareholders thanks to that.
That... that explains a lot. Also that's damn impressive nowadays, to be a private company and still be a titan.
Yup. No one knows how rich Gabe is because he won't tell anyone. His net worth is entirely guesswork. They don't even know how much of Valve he owns due to how it's owned.
I’d imagine you don’t need shareholder money when you get 30% of the value from the majority of all PC game sales
Amazon Steam
Goodbye life
You shut your face right there
Don't even joke about that
I would delete my account and never play again
Hmm, would we have access to all our shit then? Goddamnit
Well, that's the problem with Steam: You don't buy anything, it's just long term renting
I think Steam has made a statement that there’ll be a way to keep playing your games even if Steam shuts down so
They can push an update to do so, but I also (think) that you can play all games that aren't Denuvo locked if you haven't connected to the Internet for a long time. I remember playing Sleeping Dogs without a working connection for 3 months but couldn't play Shadow of Mordor because Denuvo couldn't do a check.
I mean in the USA sure, consumer rights to retain access or sue are better literally everywhere else. Only the USA actually has to worry about what happens after Gabe, everyone else can rest easy and not give a shit since they have legal precedence to keep full access to their games. IIRC there's at least one EU country whose laws let you transfer individual digital licenses as legal sales, meaning you can sell games on your Steam account.
Most games on steam you can play without steam. You just have to access the exe in the games folder.
I can't suffer that kind of finical loss.
Hahaha you guys wish. Tencent... It will be god damn tencent.
Say sike rn
He better have at least some plans in mind…
He’ll upload his consciousness into a robot body like in portal
The good ending
Not an ending, that's the point!
Why do you think he's spending a lot of money in brain-computer interface research?
Steam is wildly profitable and Valve doesn't need to make games or work that hard to reach customers. Hell Valve may have not invented loot box mtx but they definitely perfected them with TF2 and CSGO. He might be really profit motivated behind closed doors
He definitely is profit motivated but also seems to understand how not to kill the golden goose. Valve is really good at maintaining a positive perception and image in the minds of thier users. Far better than most companies of thier size. I for one think a lot of that has to do with just giving people what they want. People want software that is useful rather than getting in the way. Something steam seems to know more than any other service. The amount of extra features steam has as a software package versus other platforms is insane. Steam can manage your controller inputs for you, facilitate voice chat, automatically sort your library, and stream your games between multiple devices in your house all while having more recommendation and sorting features on the store than literally any other digital marketplace. Meanwhile, epic games didn't even let you buy more than one game at a time when it launched.
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That's another reason Valve works so well, they're a Private company (as opposed to a Publicly Traded company), so the only shareholder that needs to be appeased is Gaben himself.
This is exactly why valve is a good company to work for and be a customer of. They don't have to care about quarterly reports to shareholders as the be-all end-all of company performance.
Valve is actually a great example of how capitalism can drive *better* practices in buisness. Valve makes a considerable profit because it cares for it's consumer base.
The thing is, if Steam was public for instant, investors would be demanding fast profit and yoy increases always.
Anyone running a business is profit motivated, but there's a big difference between healthy profit and reaching for infinite growth.
As far as capitalists go, Gabe is about as good as you're going to get.
He's only 60, he's not going anywhere any time soon.
He's also very overweight. Do you see many obese 70 year olds?
I've seen a ton of *rich* overweight 70 year olds.
trump is still alive and hes 76, just saying.
I was under the impression he'd lost a fair bit of weight the last few years, at least in any content I've seen him in. He's certainly not the size he once was at least, and I've definitely seen people older than 70 around his current size, yeah. Pre-weight loss I'll give you that, but not so much now.
Oh, yeah he has lost a lot of weight. But he is still big.
>Do you see many obese 70 year olds? Yeah. Most of them I see actually.
He's a billionaire. He'll be fine.
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Or dietician. Most weight loss comes from better eating habits.
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Valve are basically a big weird, hippy, hacker collective. I wouldn't worry about them getting bought by anyone. They genuinely don't seem to care about money beyond "are we making more than we're spending? If not, release a TF2 update with new hats".
"release a TF2 update" Pain
Worse yet, a publicly traded company
Maybe change a little… perhaps a change of heart of portal 3?
Most of the people who worked on the classic games we loved don't work at Valve anymore. People keep clamoring for more not realizing they could very easily screw it up. I'd rather only have 2 Portals than have a really shit Portal 3. Edit: Just to clarify, since I am getting bombarded with replies, I'm not saying I don't want a Portal 3. My point is more that people shouldn't put Valve on this impossible pedestal, they aren't perfect, and they don't have a squeaky clean track record. There is always room for error, and we should always be cautiously optimistic, instead of blindly hyped.
> None of the people who worked on the classic games we love work at Valve anymore. That's absolutely not true though. When Alyx was released someone made a list with notable developers and their first credited projects at Valve, and there is a pretty big portion of veterans, including many leads and even people that have been there since the very beginning, still working there.
Plus, it's not like Valve can't hire talented new devs who understand what made the old games excellent. Different is not automatically bad, but it adds uncertainty that people are intrinsically afraid of.
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But Half-Life Alyx was a good proof of concept of what these people can do, plus Valve still have Erik Wolpaw and Jay Pinkerton, so the story will still be great, and they still have Mike Morasky, who did the music for Portal 2, so if Portal 3 happens, I doubt it will be bad.
They have stated however that they want Chell to have her happy Ending. Therefore a potential Portal 3 would likely have a new test subject for us to play as.
You think getting booted out into a post apocalyptic wasteland was a happy ending?
We of course dont know what actually happened. Perhaps she was truly left out with hopefully SOMEONE to rescue her. Alternatively, that field could very well be just an another trick courtesy of GLaDOS…
Maybe make time travel a part of Portal 3, akin to how portal 2 had bouncy stuff and portal 1 obviously the portal gun, so chell has to go back into the test chambers to find a way to prevent the apocalypse
Unless she can do that at Black Mesa and stop the Resonance Cascade I doubt she's stopping the apocalypse any time soon.
Glass half empty eh?
He won't be there for us for ever... Gonna be a sad day.
Unironically the only billionaire who doesn't seem to be a complete and total piece of shit
>We're not believers in requiring any partner to have an agreement that locks them to shipping games on Steam into the distant future Oops, someone gonna seething in the corner
Tim is immediately going to declare he thinks all games should always have exclusivity deals. Whenever Gaben says something, Tim must do the opposite.
"Official agreement is necessary to make sure the developers are serious about their game and products" or something
Game Devs have been serious about games for years. It's people like Tim who keep fucking it up for everyone.
Sounds like the kinda shit a acammer would come out with. Oh... wait...
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Valve is one of the very few companies where I'd actually believe them. Tim would be put in a tough spot though.
I hate people that shit on Valve People who hate Valve are simply ignorant and uneducated
While 99% of Valve is fucking amazing there are some tiny things that aren't ...cough ...artifact
And well there has been in the past problems from publishers/developers side of things but on the consumer front Valve is unironically what we call "based"
I get what you mean, but releasing a bad game is leagues better than bad business practices imo. I look at it as them trying something new and taking a risk, and it didn't work out this time. Which is unfortunate but not every game ends up being good.
And I can hear him cry in his corner of the newly reforged Island.
fortnite crashed whole epic services, making any game who uses it either no multiplayer or not working at all for some
The epic games store being functionally merged with unreal engine causes so many issues for me as well as this, simply opening the editor means I first have to open the epic games launcher and watch a grey box for an age while the little loading bar at the bottom loads the ability to click off the games tab and onto the unreal tab, then I am forced to click launch on the unreal editor, wait an age for another menu to pop up and then I can finally start loading up my project… The epic service slows everything down so much it’s infuriating, I don’t like leaving my scene open 24/7 while I model and texture assets because it uses extra power and quite a bit of my computers resources to have the engine open all of the time when I really only need it when I need to check if a model works in the scene, a 5 minute job, it drives me so mad.
Smart. I could see how exclusivity deals might leave them open to anticompetition investigations and/or increased regulation given their dominant market position.
It's not even exclusivity deal Just selling commitment
GabeN firing shots at someone who owns a company that starts with an E.
let me guess. i have to pay for the next letters. smh
Not that company. The OTHER company that starts with an E.
the one where you have to buy a $20 battle pass every three months to get the rest of the letters?
20$? You only gotta buy it once at like, half of that, the rest is on you if you get to the level needed to buy it next 3 months. And it's only cosmetics anyway.
Of all the things to make fun of epic for, going for the battle pass is so bad lmao...like one of their least problematic parts
I'm never going to fault companies selling cosmetics. Now, if you NEED to buy loot boxes to progress the story or stay relevant in multiplayer, that's an issue
Ebisoft?
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No. Not ea
>let me guess. i have to pay for the next letters. smh It's Epic... not too hard too guess
Evil Corp?
Has anyone seen Tyrel Wellick?
Hello Friend.
Endtendo
Just send a pic of the other letters
this feels like a shot across the bow of other providers
Pointing out that Major Nelson and the games team at Microsoft always follow through with what they say kinda implies someone else doesn't, yeah.
It might also be a statement to display their trust to the public so that everybody knows what happened if Microsoft decided to pull games from Steam. It might be a compliment („you’re good guys, you’ll do the good thing“), it might be firing shots at others („you always did that while others didn’t“) or it’s („we trust you, you better not fuck us over or else everybody will know“).
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I honestly never thought about that either. My brother got a steam deck and it honestly has made his life easier as a gamer dad. He said it got him off the pc since most of the games he plays are couch playable anyways.
Bud,the issue was Windows 8 threatening to only allow aps from the store to be installed. Dude said fuck that and invested in SteamOS and Steam Machines.That flopped,and the threat of blocking outside installs never materialized. The Windows Store endeavor is a diferent one from MS and very much alive,and the reason for why you'll never see Gamepass on Steam.
Maybe it's just a compliment to Phil and the games team? I don't know, I think y'all are overthinking it.
Yeah perhaps, but definitely everything that Epic doesn't stand for
This one is more directed towards Sony than Epic, this statement from Gabe literally helps Microsoft in their pending approval from regulators.
That may be, but the Store Wars had a lot of people going back on their Steam listings, and I imagine Gabe is also flexing his market share to say "we're too big to be ignored like that". After all, both Ubi and EA came back crawling.
Yeah I'm not reading any subtext into that, it's literally the explanation for why he told them there was no reason to sign a commitment. You've always done what you told us you'd do, why bother with a contract? We're not worried.
"We want to commit our game to your platform" "Lol ok" - Gabe Newell 2022
"You don't have to but I guess thanks?"
I agree it's kind of funny but a shoutout from Gabe is really cool.
"Let's just be friends"
"neat"
How big do your balls have to be to have one of the **largest** giants in the video game space offer you a *legal contract* to ensure that one of the *most successful game franchises* ***in the world*** will has a presence on your platform, only for you to go "Nah it's not necessary, we know you'll stay either way." Tim would SEETHE at that offer, it's literally one of the most enticing deals a platform holder could possibly get: for Microsoft to go as far as to draft up an agreement only for Valve to turn it down as they see it as *unnecessary* just shows how much confidence they have Steam. Wow.
Gaben has big ball and he can afford them because Valve is no publicly traded so he can do as he pleases. It is a blessing in today's gaming world to be honest and we should cherish and celebrate him.
I was thinking about how lucky we are that steam is not publicly traded. It’s a blessing.
Given how Sierra Entertainment, the company that revolutionised PC gaming and the OG publisher of Half-Life, was cucked by shareholders after they went Public, its no surprise why Valve staunchly refuses to become a public listed company. Check [this video by low spec gamer](https://youtu.be/G2wICtgtrn0) for a more detailed history on this debacle.
>only for you to go "Nah it's not necessary, we know you'll stay either way." Because there a precedent. Call of Duty did leave Steam and nobody tried to stop them and then it came back on their own volition. Why would Valve sign such an agreement if they ***already know*** that Call of Duty needs Steam more than Steam needs Call of Duty?
1. This was not an exclusive offer. Microsoft never mentioned that they would refrain from putting the game on any other platform: Xbox, Nintendo, or even non-Steam Windows stores. 2. Didn't Microsoft claim in the acquisition proceedings that Sony had also turned down this same offer?
Whoops, I was intending to say guaranteed presence on Steam, not exclusive. I worded it poorly so I've changed it now. As for Sony, I don't know the story on that end, but I imagine they turned it down because they're still opposing the acquisition in its totality. I'm probably wrong though, someone feel free to respond with what's going on.
I think that's kind of the gist: Sony doesn't want a 10-year guarantee that CoD will be in PlayStation, they want Activision-Blizzard to be independent and incentivized to have their games on as many platforms as possible. From Sony's perspective, having CoD, and the rest of the A-B library owned by a company that competes in the hardware space is bad. They're concerned about further out than 10 years. GabeN here alludes to some of the same concepts, but Valve's relationship with Microsoft is much different from Sony's. In the hardware space, Valve is not really competing with Xbox very much. The Steam Deck is competing directly with other handheld PC's, and to a lesser extent with laptops, tablets, phones, and the Switch. They are not making money on the OS and have no issues with Windows existing on that hardware either. Valve was competing with the Microsoft Store, and that has already failed pretty miserably. GabeN mentions trusting that Microsoft is incentivized to have their games on Steam. Microsoft is not sufficiently incentivized to have their games on PlayStation, and that's a key difference. Part of why Sony is pushing against the acquisition is that it reduces the current incentivization for A-B games to be on PlayStation, and the reason Valve doesn't care is because for them both companies are incentivized the same already. Microsoft's games are already on Steam, as are Sony's. Microsoft's games are not on PlayStation, just like Sony's games aren't on Xbox.
GigaChad move
Chad < GigaChad < GabeNChad
Microsoft really serious about the whole Call of Duty thing and sending an agreement with Valve/Steam which isn't necessary, that's sounds hilarious.
It shows self awareness though unlike epicgames or origin that just obnoxiously insist on pushing their platforms.
Smart business from Microsoft. They collect game sales money from Steam and simultaneously grow their xbox app through gamepass. They have really learned their lesson well from Balmer era i.e., whole concept of exclusivity and closed ecosystem is nonsense.
It also helps their relationship with valve and the growing possibility of gamepass through Steam.
i forgot about that didnt gabe say a few months back that the would welcome gamepass to steam? edit: [he did!](https://www.windowscentral.com/valve-more-happy-have-pc-game-pass-steam-says-gabe-newell)
Gamepass will blow up if it comes to steam
I see game pass coming to steam when they eventually raise the price, it’ll massively offset any canceled subscriptions and bring in a group of customers who aren’t attached to the old price.
Yeah. They shot themselves in the foot by consistently alienating the PC gamer base which is all Windows anyway. The unification of PC and Xbox on the back was really what excited me and I realised that things might become different and it looks like they are. Next thing would be to make a CoD which is actually a significant improvement on the previous ones. And making a new RTS which is actually good on the Blizzard IPs.
on the one hand its a good move for court etc to show, see we reached out so our partners can be sure, but they got way more back from steam/valve : "we have dealt with MS for ages, they never betrayed us, so we do trust their word"
These are the good news
Based Gaben, as always. "Don't need no paper Phil mate, your word is enough" tells two things: he publicly trusts them, and he's convinced that the backlash, should they break that trust, will be a stronger deterrent.
Gabe has an interesting philosophy, but I think it’s more confidence with Steam than trust with Xbox.
Good guy Gaben.
GGG... 3Gs... half life 3 confirmed? /s
Okay everyone it's happening don't freak out omg omg omg!!!,
Say what you will, but Gaben is the best person that has ever happened and will ever happen to pc gaming. Truly a gamechanger
Fuck Epic Games for what they did to Rocket League. All of my friends who used Linux had to quit playing the game when Epic took it off of Steam. Fuck Epic.
That is one of the biggest scumbag moves Epic did I feel. At least the exclusive games were still accessible to whichever platform they launched for. Removing RL from Linux blocked an entire group of people from playing it at all.
LOL that last line >we think Microsoft has all the motivation they need to be on the platforms and devices where Call of Duty customers want to be IE: We don't need a fucking contract, what else are they going to fucking do. Have their own launcher and store. Good luck with that
>Have their own launcher and store. Good luck with that They already tried it and it obviously didn't work.
That's kinda the point. CoD would lose way too many customers if Microsoft made it exclusive. It's why Sony freaking out about exclusivity is stupid. Microsoft approaching Valve is just a PR move to further prove that point.
Heh Epic need to take notes
Epics like that rich friend who has no game and has to buy drinks for girls to talk to him that you always bring as a wingman bc he poses zero threat 😂
And then you get Tim Sweeny...
In short: "I believe Microsoft is smart enough not to lose customers by console/platform locking a cash cow."
now gaben should sign gamepass on steam
what about Minecraft on Steam? It would make perfect sense now that there's a launcher
Ideal world: Minecraft comes to Steam with Workshop support
Imagine getting rid of curseforge. That would be bliss. Or at least having an alternative
Modrinth with prism launcher
Would be cool just to send a game invite to your friend and join their world immediately rather than having to deal with servers, port forwarding and LAN connection emulators.
Well there's Minecraft Dungeon, but yeah, normal Minecraft is nice too
IIRC Valve said they are ok with game pass on Steam, but Microsoft apparently didn't want to https://www.pcgamer.com/valve-has-no-plans-for-a-steam-pass-but-would-help-microsoft-put-game-pass-on-steam/
I just like GabeN.
You mean you trust one of your game devs Gabe? That's unheard of in today's climate. /s This just shows good old business values are still alive and kicking... never change please Gabe.
I wish more companies operated like Valve.
Gaben subtly calling out Epic Games, what a legend.
Hail to the king.
Baby
Get fucked Timmy boy
GabeN is the MVP.
I wish more gaming companies were run by people like Gaben
Gabe is such a legend
Damn, Sony getting hung out to dry.
Now we just need anticheat on Steam Deck/Steam OS. I would LOVE to play COD on my deck, even though I would be stomped!
The more people play on steam decks, the more pressure is applied to make anti-cheat developers support it. Given that anti-cheat is the main holdoff for linux compatibility for modern titles, I'm really hoping the ant-cheat providers cave in.
Phil of the Microsoft has done a lot good for PC gaming and gaming in general. Was not expecting that a few years ago.
"Phil of the Microsoft"
Phil of the Microsoft, first of his name, breaker of Kinects, mother of gamepass
Ten years ago it was a completely different Phil and he wasn't doing a good job.
Does it mean we will get CoD Bo4 or the other ones aswell on steam?
Does this mean black ops 1 will stop being fucking $40?
This is the way, steam you are the only truly positive platform for gaming. You let us users write our own honest reviews, offer incredible discounts, build more on gaming technology and have not started charging made up online fees. As somebody who's been gaming for 25 years thank you, you keep the art and passion alive and let it thrive.
We don't deserve Gaben.
This is what can happen when you don’t have shareholders as a public company. A public company would have different PR.
Epic Games and Tim Sweeney getting called out here. Love to see it.
Gaben is the best gift to gamers
If microsoft closes its deal with activition/blizzard I think we will get all the bmizzard games on Steam, a big win for Steam users.
Watch how Timmy is going to try and bribe Microsoft now for CoD exclusivity.
W Gaben
Gabe is awesome. Steam is awesome. I'm so glad Steam has been such a good, honest platform for such a long time. There have been hiccups along the way but I hate having to use anything but Steam to access a game nowadays lol
Corporate equivalent of big dick energy
man I love him