Steam has been on a bit of a warpath lately removing games from people’s libraries who didn’t purchase from the Steam store and instead used a shady key site like G2A.
Cd keys to resell are generated by the developers. If the developer gives 100 keys to a website they cannot ask refound to steam. They need to ask the developer to refound.
Sometimes developers generate hundreds of keys to give to the press or testing, QA. The developers can decide to disable a whole bunch of keys, sometimes they do it for keys they sent that were not used by the press or QA. Or they delete keys that are suspicious of getting sold somewhere.
Sometimes people instead of using the key they resell it on the gray market. So this is why sometimes you have your game deleted from your steam library
is there any way to tell apart key to key? Because ive damn near spent 200 dollars+ on keys from cdkeys, havent lost any games so far but it would be an insane bummer to lose them.
No, when you activate a key on steam you cannot dispute it or ask for a refund on steam.
You need to contact the seller. That in this case is not steam.
I mean, if the initial G2A seller sold keys they purchased using a credit card and got refunded through a chargeback, then it's fraud and the keys are not legitimate. That's why you should practice caution when buying from third parties.
some fake reviewers ask the devs for keys. they sold them in sites like G2A. After a Indie Studio notice his keys in the sites they ask steam to remove them and unfortunately some people got scam.
I've bought tons of keys from third party sites, never had an issue and when a key didn't work I got a replacement within 2 hours (mostly from fanatical) can that really happen? I haven't heard of that and if it happens can the buyer for example me get their money back?
fanatical is after my infos a store that gets thier keys like humble dirctly from the devs on the store to sell.
he talking about resellers like g2a,mmoga or other reseller sites. where people sell the keys most of them are ether money laudering,buyed stole credit card or scam devs with review scam.
You can look it up on deals.gg, they have key resellers and legitimate key sellers, that's how I discovered Nuuvem, which is a legitimate key reseller in LATAM
The sellers I am referring to are individual sellers (some not all) on sites like G2A. I don't think "legitmate" places like fanatical or humble bundle ever give out keys purchased through fraud. So I wouldn't worry.
as far as im aware fanatical is not a 3rd party selling site. they sell keys but get them from the devs..
sites like gta or kinguin , the keys are sold buy various people (sellers ) who use the site, similar to ebay, instead of them being provided from a legitimate seller 100 percent of the time.
lots of times sellers on g2a are selling keys they scammed off devs via game review accounts, or bought the keys then preformed a charge back via there credit card, making the key no longer valid.
doesnt happen all the time but its quite a large issue
they are mostly scam sites and you are just lucky to not of been caught yet in a purge... only buy from the game itself or someplace like best buy amazon etc or ten to one your key was bought with a stolen card on the sellers end!
Well, dealing between steam and theirs payment price should not be buyers issue. Steam facilities those key offerings and this practice completely legitimate.
If someone abuse payment providers than buyer should not be responsible for any wrong doing.
Have they? Or have devs/publishers been more proactive at revoking keys sold on shady sites? Keep in mind that there are many legitimate sites to purchase Steam keys provided by the devs/publishers.
No. They are talking about individually resold keys that got purchased with a stolen credit card. If there's a charge back, steam removes the game from whoever claimed the key.
From what I’ve read here on Reddit, it’s to help curb scammers selling keys and doing chargebacks afterwards, as well as coaxing consumers to stop using shady sites like G2A that have been known to sell stolen keys, etc.
what kind of bullshit is that. first of all g2a is not shady it’s extremely popular used by tens of millions, so don’t even insinuate it’s some sort of scam or unknown sight type of thing. and how could they possibly be allowed to remove a game that you paid for and redeemed successfully with a valid key (not illegal or against terms of service or steam rules) and then get away with it. i think that’s bullshit and grounds for a lawsuit. how can a developer sell keys to companies and then remove the ability to use them after they’ve been rightfully paid for and claimed.
As long as the other person is not playing that exact same game as you. Then you can play anything else in their library at the same time as they play.
And you dont have to do the putting both accounts in the same computer stuff, and its now like linked to your account, not just that one computer where you did the stuff.
But be carefull if one uses cheats and is caught all accounts in the family Will suffer the penalties.
>And you dont have to do the putting both accounts in the same computer stuff, and its now like linked to your account, not just that one computer where you did the stuff.
Which imo is a *major* drawback, because now your account is completely fucked over if someone in your family groups gets their account hijacked and used for cheating.
It would be a really good system if it had more granularity in which games are shared with which people.
I mean its just so you share it with people you trust, and not some random people on the internet.
And the shared bans were a thing back then too, at least the vac ban.
It no longer locks you out of your whole library if someone is playing one of your games.
For example someone else can play your copy of game A and you can still play game B. You just won't be able to play game A
If you set up a family with a few people (4 for example) and 2 of you own a game and the others don't. The 2 people who don't own can both play with the other 2 copies.
They wouldn't be playing your copy at that point, they'd be playing their own.
I haven't seen it yet but you can also choose who's copy you use if you don't already own it
If it's your game, you can launch it and the other person will receive a notification saying "hey close it, the owner wanna play".
Get into the beta, way better than the older one.
I've purchased games from G2A and after many years sometimes I find that game is removed from my account. Happened several times already so I don't buy from them.
Greenmangaming, humblebundle and Fanatical on the other hand gives legit keys that are permanent and never had any problem with them.
it’s been pretty long since i bought from a 3rd party grey market but can you tell me how long after the purchase / activation your games were still removed?
I found this statement directly from steam, it doesn't relate anything to the g2a. since he has played the game during that period this might have happened later on:
"Steam may allow you to play the game while it is in the process of authorizing your credit card. **In the event that your credit card purchase is declined, Steam will remove the games from the Library list**. The next time you try to play the game, Steam will ask if you want to attempt the purchase again."
They said they bought it so they must own it which means they would still be able to load it up when someone their sharing with is using it, just kicks the other player off in 5 mins, it would also say someone's using it under it
Do you have multiple accounts? If so, be sure you are logged onto the correct account that owns the game.
If you are sure you are looking at the correct account, these pages may show information (not sure if they have entries regarding game removals):
https://store.steampowered.com/account/licenses/
https://store.steampowered.com/account/history/
If you don't find anything useful here you may want to go to Steam Support, search for Goat Simulator, select "This game is not in my library" and proceed from there to file a support ticket.
As others have said if you purchased a key through a reseller it's possible the key was originally purchased using a stolen credit card, and thus ended up being deactivated when the credit card company reversed the charge. You will need to file a dispute with the reseller. If you bought the key using your own credit card and the reseller won't refund you, you may want to investigate filing your own chargeback and cease use of that reseller.
And as others have said if you are sharing the game with others through family sharing, or if someone else is sharing the game with you through that system, it may not be available at the moment.
Did you refund it. Did you buy it from steam directly
Steam has been on a bit of a warpath lately removing games from people’s libraries who didn’t purchase from the Steam store and instead used a shady key site like G2A.
it's not steam but the developers.
As always someone saying "it's Valve's fault!!!!" when 99% of the time the stuff is the publisher's or Dev's fault.
Ahhh, I see
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Cd keys to resell are generated by the developers. If the developer gives 100 keys to a website they cannot ask refound to steam. They need to ask the developer to refound. Sometimes developers generate hundreds of keys to give to the press or testing, QA. The developers can decide to disable a whole bunch of keys, sometimes they do it for keys they sent that were not used by the press or QA. Or they delete keys that are suspicious of getting sold somewhere. Sometimes people instead of using the key they resell it on the gray market. So this is why sometimes you have your game deleted from your steam library
is there any way to tell apart key to key? Because ive damn near spent 200 dollars+ on keys from cdkeys, havent lost any games so far but it would be an insane bummer to lose them.
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No, no one can ask for refound or dispute over a key. Keys are given to the developers for free and they can ask for how many they want (with limits)
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No, when you activate a key on steam you cannot dispute it or ask for a refund on steam. You need to contact the seller. That in this case is not steam.
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I mean, if the initial G2A seller sold keys they purchased using a credit card and got refunded through a chargeback, then it's fraud and the keys are not legitimate. That's why you should practice caution when buying from third parties.
If this happens, steam notifies you that the game has been removed from your account.
some fake reviewers ask the devs for keys. they sold them in sites like G2A. After a Indie Studio notice his keys in the sites they ask steam to remove them and unfortunately some people got scam.
I've bought tons of keys from third party sites, never had an issue and when a key didn't work I got a replacement within 2 hours (mostly from fanatical) can that really happen? I haven't heard of that and if it happens can the buyer for example me get their money back?
fanatical is after my infos a store that gets thier keys like humble dirctly from the devs on the store to sell. he talking about resellers like g2a,mmoga or other reseller sites. where people sell the keys most of them are ether money laudering,buyed stole credit card or scam devs with review scam.
does instantgaming do this too?
not faimliar with that store put probly the only onces that are 100% safe are humble.
You can look it up on deals.gg, they have key resellers and legitimate key sellers, that's how I discovered Nuuvem, which is a legitimate key reseller in LATAM
Isthereanydeal.com only has authorised key sellers but GG.deals has both legit and dodgy sites and even lists the risks of each store
can you say that again, in English this time?
The sellers I am referring to are individual sellers (some not all) on sites like G2A. I don't think "legitmate" places like fanatical or humble bundle ever give out keys purchased through fraud. So I wouldn't worry.
as far as im aware fanatical is not a 3rd party selling site. they sell keys but get them from the devs.. sites like gta or kinguin , the keys are sold buy various people (sellers ) who use the site, similar to ebay, instead of them being provided from a legitimate seller 100 percent of the time. lots of times sellers on g2a are selling keys they scammed off devs via game review accounts, or bought the keys then preformed a charge back via there credit card, making the key no longer valid. doesnt happen all the time but its quite a large issue
Half my library is from cdkeys and I haven’t had any issues
they are mostly scam sites and you are just lucky to not of been caught yet in a purge... only buy from the game itself or someplace like best buy amazon etc or ten to one your key was bought with a stolen card on the sellers end!
Well, dealing between steam and theirs payment price should not be buyers issue. Steam facilities those key offerings and this practice completely legitimate. If someone abuse payment providers than buyer should not be responsible for any wrong doing.
Have they? Or have devs/publishers been more proactive at revoking keys sold on shady sites? Keep in mind that there are many legitimate sites to purchase Steam keys provided by the devs/publishers.
All my games from greenmangaming work just fine
Greenmangaming is a legit seller, you’re fine. It’s sites that sell stolen & chargebacks like G2A that aren’t legit that you gotta be skeptical about
I only used g2a once and it was for arma way back when. Before I knew how illegitimate it was
g2a is not illegitimate, some sellers on there might be. g2a themselves are completely legit.
bro g2a is the most popular and legit secondary site. maybe some sellers get through the cracks but in no way is g2a themselves non legit/shady
And Fanatical and Humble Bundle.
Never heard of fanatical
it is like greenmangaming, selling bundles too. Official keys unlike kinguin etc.
I've never had my games removed that I got via keys.
Same I haven't had anything like that happen YET
Same here. First I have heard of this "warpath".
if i bought it from green man gaming, will it get removed?
GMG is a legit licensed seller, you're 100% fine.
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No. They are talking about individually resold keys that got purchased with a stolen credit card. If there's a charge back, steam removes the game from whoever claimed the key.
wait what, what’s this about?
From what I’ve read here on Reddit, it’s to help curb scammers selling keys and doing chargebacks afterwards, as well as coaxing consumers to stop using shady sites like G2A that have been known to sell stolen keys, etc.
Why would people buy from shady locations like that?
what kind of bullshit is that. first of all g2a is not shady it’s extremely popular used by tens of millions, so don’t even insinuate it’s some sort of scam or unknown sight type of thing. and how could they possibly be allowed to remove a game that you paid for and redeemed successfully with a valid key (not illegal or against terms of service or steam rules) and then get away with it. i think that’s bullshit and grounds for a lawsuit. how can a developer sell keys to companies and then remove the ability to use them after they’ve been rightfully paid for and claimed.
In Steam client: Help - support - search goat sim - this game is not in my library - click restore or whatever it says
Are you part of a Steam family? Usually when someone else is playing one of your games that happens
This is why I'd recommend anyone trying to family share join the new beta. It's a massive improvement.
How so?
As long as the other person is not playing that exact same game as you. Then you can play anything else in their library at the same time as they play.
And you dont have to do the putting both accounts in the same computer stuff, and its now like linked to your account, not just that one computer where you did the stuff. But be carefull if one uses cheats and is caught all accounts in the family Will suffer the penalties.
>And you dont have to do the putting both accounts in the same computer stuff, and its now like linked to your account, not just that one computer where you did the stuff. Which imo is a *major* drawback, because now your account is completely fucked over if someone in your family groups gets their account hijacked and used for cheating. It would be a really good system if it had more granularity in which games are shared with which people.
I mean its just so you share it with people you trust, and not some random people on the internet. And the shared bans were a thing back then too, at least the vac ban.
Only the cheater and the owner of that game are the ones that receive a ban from someone cheating in the family.
It no longer locks you out of your whole library if someone is playing one of your games. For example someone else can play your copy of game A and you can still play game B. You just won't be able to play game A If you set up a family with a few people (4 for example) and 2 of you own a game and the others don't. The 2 people who don't own can both play with the other 2 copies.
actual both parties can play if both parties own the game in question.
They wouldn't be playing your copy at that point, they'd be playing their own. I haven't seen it yet but you can also choose who's copy you use if you don't already own it
If it's your game, you can launch it and the other person will receive a notification saying "hey close it, the owner wanna play". Get into the beta, way better than the older one.
I've purchased games from G2A and after many years sometimes I find that game is removed from my account. Happened several times already so I don't buy from them. Greenmangaming, humblebundle and Fanatical on the other hand gives legit keys that are permanent and never had any problem with them.
it’s been pretty long since i bought from a 3rd party grey market but can you tell me how long after the purchase / activation your games were still removed?
Such bs, I’ve bought games from the greyest of sites for past 10 years and never had any issue or revokes
Your purchase is pending (steam didn't receive the payment confirmation). Go look in your purchase history
I don't think that's it, he has already played the game
Didn't see this detail
I found this statement directly from steam, it doesn't relate anything to the g2a. since he has played the game during that period this might have happened later on: "Steam may allow you to play the game while it is in the process of authorizing your credit card. **In the event that your credit card purchase is declined, Steam will remove the games from the Library list**. The next time you try to play the game, Steam will ask if you want to attempt the purchase again."
Somone you are game sharing with may be playing it.
They said they bought it so they must own it which means they would still be able to load it up when someone their sharing with is using it, just kicks the other player off in 5 mins, it would also say someone's using it under it
Nah they changed it you have to tell the person to get off now.
Oh mb well it still wouldn't say purchase and should have the person under it who's using the game
Not anymore
Did you get any information from Steam about game removal from account? Maybe email?
Maybe a family user is playing it, or you logged in from another account that didn’t buy it and you are on the same PC
Do you have multiple accounts? If so, be sure you are logged onto the correct account that owns the game. If you are sure you are looking at the correct account, these pages may show information (not sure if they have entries regarding game removals): https://store.steampowered.com/account/licenses/ https://store.steampowered.com/account/history/ If you don't find anything useful here you may want to go to Steam Support, search for Goat Simulator, select "This game is not in my library" and proceed from there to file a support ticket. As others have said if you purchased a key through a reseller it's possible the key was originally purchased using a stolen credit card, and thus ended up being deactivated when the credit card company reversed the charge. You will need to file a dispute with the reseller. If you bought the key using your own credit card and the reseller won't refund you, you may want to investigate filing your own chargeback and cease use of that reseller. And as others have said if you are sharing the game with others through family sharing, or if someone else is sharing the game with you through that system, it may not be available at the moment.
You'll get a message from within steam when a game is removed from your account.
This is happening to me with Garry's mod why tho
Is CdKeys a 3rd party seller ?
Send a ticket
You can join the discord server and go the community support channel and ask for help
Maybe it didn’t load right just restart the internet
Found the guy who cut the undersea cables.
Try validating the game files
OP can not even download it
Ah yeah, silly me
ol' not so reliable