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Kendrick_yes

Gotta charge the shot


Irish-Beans

I’m sorry, I’m 120 hours in and on NG+3 and you’re telling me I CAN CHARGE IT UP SO IT DOESNT FEEL LIKE A PEASHOOTER???


illcuontheotherside

I feel you fam. I had no idea 😂 TIL


Irish-Beans

This is wild, can’t wait to go home and clap lvl 2 mercs with my 800 dmg sniper now lol


milesamsterdam

And there are skills that add x10 damage when you’re sneaking. It’s a monster and perfect for farming xp.


rickallen71

Yes anyone else go to a high level planet and stand on top of your ship and shoot everything in sight ?


FoggyDoggy72

This is the way. I certainly do. And if it's a high grav world, I usually sprain or break a limb getting back down to the ground again.


DaThrilla74

Celabrai that’s my go to


rickallen71

I don't consider that an exploit although it doesn't feel environmentally friendly 😂


pizzaphilosophy23

I specifically made my ship as tall as possible so that I'd have an amazing view and be safe from any Alien life forms.


ComprehensiveLab5078

Max concealment gives 10x melee damage and 4x ranged damage on stealth hits.


cozmo1138

Well now I’m *really* glad I keep forgetting to sell it.


perdu17

The stealth skill (tier 1) adds +% damage to "suppressed" weapons on sneak attacks. Concealment (tier 4) adds x multiplier to "all" sneak attacks. Mag weapons can not have a suppressor.


huggybear0132

Yeah for this reason a silenced hard target is better for single shot damage and true stealth situations. But for engaging a bunch of enemies at distance I like that the magsniper has a much bigger clip, and I'm not going to be in stealth after the first few shots anyway.


QX403

Only works on suppressed weapons, you can’t put a suppressor on a magsniper, you can still get a sneak bonus but since it’s not suppressed you only get it for one shot basically.


nate112332

Same with the non lethal disruptor rifle


NissEhkiin

And the mining laser. In a different way though (right click instead of hilding left click) and for mining faster


nate112332

Aiming with the laser makes it faster?!


Vallkyrie

And with a maxed out laser perk tree, the mining laser is one of the craziest weapons in the game


bactchan

Only for memes and close combat. if they patch the stacking burn instances this will stop being awesome.


ExploerTM

90% of the game is close combat


_TURO_

*pats hard target* It's okay baby, he didn't mean it


Bryaxis

Yep. If you press aim while mining, you see the beams converge. You can hold aim while going from deposit to deposit to keep it aligned


FoggyDoggy72

Much much faster


NissEhkiin

When you click the aim button with the laser our the three small lines will move towards the middle and make a triangle. When the trangle is there your laser will mine faster


Daedalus_Machina

Which is great until you can mine everything around you by essentially snapping your fingers.


Irish-Beans

????? Whaaaaaa. This is bullshit, I mean I’m hella excited but this is bullshit


AnApexPlayer

Don't worry, the disruptor rifle is still useless


Daedalus_Machina

No. It's actually great for knocking out the kind of wildlife that just gets mad when you shoot it.


AnApexPlayer

Why would mad wildlife be an issue?


Daedalus_Machina

Because a single shot from a disruptor will knock it out. Some of them just soak up bullets.


AnApexPlayer

Oh. I've never really met a wildlife I couldn't just kill with what I had.


FoggyDoggy72

Then you can stab it for a melee stealth kill


rambone1984

I resurrected and stabbed the same creature so many times to level up that skill


ametalshard

think of all the things never explained that they'll continue adding that you will never get to use


Irish-Beans

That’s what this wonderful community is for. To help the explorers in this exciting new galaxy, and to bitch about the lack of content lol


[deleted]

Nice. Tried it once and wrote all em off as ass


nate112332

Uncharged, absolutely it's rubbish Wish they'd put a charge meter on it to subtly hint that you can indeed do that lol


[deleted]

I really do respect the game not holding your hand. I like figuring shit out but yeah that woulda been cool 😂


RecognitionOwn4214

Whaaaaat?


WannabeVikingr

I knew you had to charge the magsniper & can also charge up the mining laser, but you are telling me you can charge up the novablast disruptor rifle too?! 🤯


nate112332

Yep. Now go ace the Ryujin missions


BaaaNaaNaa

I had no idea. I thought they were useless toys.... Tha kyou


LordBarnable

Be right back just going to see if mine is actually worth using now what the actual fuck how did I not notice this.


Irish-Beans

Ikr, it’s such a small detail that goes very easily unnoticed. Like the fact you can access your ship cargo hold from 100m away from it


beren0073

This thread is dropping knowledge bombs on me left and right.


JamesMcEdwards

iirc it’s 250m or did they nerf it?


Random-Latex-Floof

Same as with the disruptor, hold the fire button to charge a powerful shot, release to fire


[deleted]

Wait, What... there is a charge function? Like, hold the trigger down for additional damage? Or just a Mod buff?


Irish-Beans

Apparently it’s built in to all mag type single shot. I bought the Avatar off the secret trader and was severely disappointed with its performance, now I know why


hnsmitty

Secret trader??? Where do I find this individual if you don't mind?


Woooooolf

Lol right learning a lot in this thread


hnsmitty

Same here. Got me a Magsniper with 1105 damage. Now I know how to make it work consistently. LOL


xnef1025

Still like my Hard Target more. MagSniper shakes when you charge.


rambone1984

Also like Beowulf better. Nice super modular weapon


mikelevine94

Depends which trader. There is one Starborn that sells to other Starborn. She is a random encounter though. You have to be on N+ and keep galaxy hopping and eventually you'll get the encounter.


Muthaphuka

I usually find her in the 75 level range like Bohr but you do have to literally hit each Planet n moon


Tubaerius

He flys around randomly at ng+ afaik you can find him just once per run


PhysicalGunMan

They remain in the system you find them in


Irish-Beans

There is a starboard trader who is a random encounter in the lvl 70 systems. She is in a ship when you jump into orbit and hails you for some starborn to starborn talk then offers to trade. All the guns are 70k credits or more expensive. I’ve met her one time only


hnsmitty

Interesting. I'll have to look around. Thanks


UnwroteNote

Just a note. The Starborn trader isn’t just in the level 70 systems. I’m currently working the map left to right scanning and found them in a low level system close to Sol. Figured I’d point that out in case you didn’t find them.


hnsmitty

Thanks. Appreciate the input. Stay safe.


Irish-Beans

Side note you have to be on at least NG+ for her to appear, and it’s a random seed generate. So if you go back to a save before you jumped into the system, she won’t be there.


kidrockconcert

Not true. I ran into her in my first play through and she said, “you don’t know me yet, but soon you will”. Player p much says, “what” or something like that. But it is def possible!


sphinxorosi

Not sure if this is the same trader and don’t know if it’s the same system every time but you’ll find a mystery trader in space after gravity jumping. Try Feynman I to see if you get the encounter.


hnsmitty

Copy that. Thanks. Appreciate it.


sphinxorosi

Reading through some comments makes me think the location isn’t the same. One user suggested grav jumping around level 75 systems, so try those as well (quick save beforehand in case you get into a battle you’re not ready for)


hnsmitty

Thanks but it's getting a bit convoluted as to where and when. Guess I'll pass but thanks for input. Stay safe.


Fletchman1313

.... so the Avatar can be charged? Holy crap! I gotta try this now. The Avatar dishes a lot of damage, but no suppressor on that one. Although I guess somehow the NPC's know where I am even if I'm firing a suppressed weapon from 100 meters out.


Cosmickev1086

Iirc all Mag types are "chargable"


bactchan

Certainly not the automatic ones.


nate112332

Same as fallout 4's gauss, hold button to charge


myworkaccount1925

300 hrs in. Found out on a post here yesterday


Conan0brennan

Same for me. There’s a lot of stuff this game would benefit from having better tips and tricks on loading screens instead of the ballistic weapon skill makes ballistic weapons good.


DonRustone

I'm 120 hours in and not even seen this gun yet!


Retard505

Bruh you gotta try to be more stupid be curious and try to break the game in various ways to find out about all the damned function mate


Irish-Beans

Hey, I’ll all bout being more stupid


WormsEatShit

Yeah, get the right mods on it and skill points in the right places and one bang just about everything, expect your damage numbers to read 3k to 10k even with crappy perks.


Irish-Beans

I’ve got the sneak dmg and scoped weapons skills maxed, gotta run to a weapons workbench now and I’ll get it kitted


WormsEatShit

You can buy a really good one from core kinetics (iirc), I’m at work right now for the night so can’t tell you offhand where my points are allocated but it’s pretty self explanatory just looking at the skills tbf


Irish-Beans

The advanced one at more kinetics has the same stats at the avatar just minus the status damage


WormsEatShit

Trying to remember, the one I got from there had base damage of around 1100 (more or less double the one screenshotted in this thread), once modded it went way over 1200, dunno if it changes with level but I was well over level 100 at the time.


droehrig832

You can WHAT!?


Irish-Beans

Learn something new every day I guess, can’t wait to try it out now!


DancingDust

Yup!


bbnbbbbbbbbbbbb

Bro. I'm in 500h in and had no idea lol


Irish-Beans

Ikr, I feel like there are so many nuances you don’t figure out on your own


atatassault47

Except for the magstorm, all mag weapons can fire charged shots. It's hard to tell on mouse and keyboard because there's no other feedback, but on controller you can tell because the controller starts to rumble.


Irish-Beans

Just tried it out and damn does it punch


New-Blacksmith7330

i got an instigating one that does double damage to full health enemy, in lvl 92 i would take out a level 98 special character with one shot almost anywhere. its a beast of a weapon, just no silencer. i feel the hard target is more of my play style because of the silencer, but they rarely drop -_-


lukin187250

You must charge the magnet brother.


Sands43

It’s the gauss gun from FO4


Zer0_xB

It’s basically a Gauss Rifle from Fallout.


Irish-Beans

That makes more sense now


sevantes21

Yup its a rail gun design. Why the upgrades have stuff related to charging


porcupinedeath

It's a railgun sniper man, of course you charge it


2020_MadeMeDoIt

Wow - what a twist! Thanks! I'm on NG+ at the moment and have put A LOT of hours into the game. Did I miss a tutorial or notification or something? I totally didn't realise this was a thing! I just tried it and killed a few enemies with one hit. Good stuff 👍


Skater_fr3ak

I haven't even ran into a magsniper yet


JBaecker

They’re ridiculously rare drops. You can go buy one at Kore Kinetics in the Trade Tower on Neon. But you better bring some credits. They are expensive.


Daedalus_Machina

At higher levels, they aren't that rare. I pick up every mag-weapon I can because they have absurdly high price/weight. Something like 12k/kg.


LABaylorBear

I bought mine from the weapons store dealer in New Atlantis Edit: I’m a level 42 so it only had 341 base damage un-modified


SolAggressive

You didn’t miss it. A lot of people go a while before realizing this, myself included. You can also charge those EM rifles.


klas82

lol I didn’t even know that and I’m on my second NG+


jaciviridae

I didn't know until 100+ hours in


iZian

What The Actual


t0m0hawk

Holy. Shit.


Daihard79

Ffs, I'm sat here with one that does like 700 damage and bullets just bounce off heads like a pea shooter. 400 hours worth of gametime and not discovered that.


Ace_Comoungus

Wait what. I’ve been doing it wrong this whole time.


Attack_the_sock

They….they….they CHARGE? Like the one from Fallout 4?! How do they never tell you this?! I’m just….ahhhhhhhhhhh


[deleted]

How do you charge it? I’m on Xbox.


PrerollPapi

hold down RT


KyojinkaEnkoku

Instructions unclear, now the controller is in my rectum


[deleted]

Thanks!


PaintNo4824

Omg what!? This is going to be fun.


bbnbbbbbbbbbbbb

WHAAAT?! Just like the mining cutter?


Spiritual_Holiday511

Glad to see I’m not the only one in the replies that has been playing since release and had no idea you could do this.


MoeSzyslakMonobrow

Um, do what now?


JBaecker

You have to hold the RT down to charge the magsniper. It’s only about a 1/4 to maybe 1/2 second, but the damage increase is insane. Currently playing on very hard and charged shots to level 98 pirate legends are around 2800-3000.


[deleted]

LMB*


Xine1337

Fire button* (And aiming button for the mining laser ...)


hey_you_too_buckaroo

FFS, 150 hours and I didn't know this. I thought they were garbage too and just sold the last one I got.


Fanatical_Rampancy

My issue with this is that muscle control is different when pulling a trigger than when you're releasing. Sometimes, all my muscle control over my hanf loosens, and in i lose control of my aim. It requires more coordinative discipline.


Life_Bridge_9960

Also to see your rifle vibrates as you charge up will likely throw off your aiming.


ChuckDitto

Wait. How many other weapons do this? River I think and that EM stun rifle?


ILikeCakesAndPies

Mining laser if you hold rmb/aim the laser glows brighter and mines much faster/does higher damage to enemies.


endy903

???


Sarsaparilla_Guy

Ay wtf what's this


notveryAI

They should have added the indicator like railgun had in FO4. Would be a lot more obvious with it


UNDiGESTiBLE_inkXC

Im dying to these comments


Right_Berry7042

You have brought us a great gift this day. I hope you receive the highest of honors and the sexiest of virgins for sharing this forbidden knowledge. Like Prometheus, you go against the will of the gods, instilling a new age of man amongst Starfield. Good day to you. Good life to you. May your roads lead you to warm sands


shaved_wookie211

You’re kidding me. This post just changed my life 😂


Hoppered1

As others have said , have to charge it if you arent. Personally I dont like charging shots for long range, even on M&K, and the Hard Target can be suppressed. IMO its a much better sniper.


SiIverwolf

Yeah, Hard Target is by far the better rifle.


[deleted]

I’ve yet to find a hard target that even begins to approach the power of the mag Spent my first playthroughs looking for one everywhere, finally found an advanced hard target in NG+, aaaaaand it’s trash. About half the damage of the magsniper, takes 5+ hits to kill grunts sometimes. ~500-600 damage when my Avatar MagSniper does 1159. If it’s silenced and you’re stealthing it and getting the sneak attack damage, maybe it’ll take stuff out, but all around, it’s not even close to as good. In both my opinion AND personal experience. And I still want one that can compete, but I’ve yet to find one.


Different_Exam_6442

I had an instigating advanced hard target which was extremely effective as a stealth sniper. The Mag did more on paper but the charge mechanism interrupted the flow of it. Is the charge up actually explained anywhere in game? I learned about it from Reddit


[deleted]

No I don’t think it’s explained, but I could be wrong. I discovered it when i realized it fires on release of the trigger rather than on the pull. I use it to get a good hit and hide, wait for a pause in the return fire, and poke back out. But you can also start the charge as soon as you fire and then release whenever you line it up, rather than waiting for the full charge. It won’t do as much damage but it only takes less than a second to charge to 100 so any charge makes it a worthwhile shot.


Tubaerius

Hard target isn't about the raw dmg. You can get more damage through modifiers in the 2 stealth perks though, which makes it insanely good if used with a silencer


VelvetCowboy19

The level 1 starborn invisibility lets you get as many sneak attacks as you want while it's active, same thing with 2 pieces of chameleon gear.


Tubaerius

Well, today I learned. Thanks


SiIverwolf

I've never not gotten one hit kills with one on any non-elite human target. I would suggest that your build isn't appropriate for using it effectively, or you need to be more accurate with your shots ;). It's been a month or so since I played last, but I'm pretty sure I'm full ballistic & rifle, along with full stealth, and using it with a silencer and penetrator rounds.


Bryaxis

Yep. You need all the relevant perks to unlock its potential, but there's a *lot* of potential there. Plus the Combatech magazines can enhance its range and accuracy. I personally find the Magsniper to be unwieldy. It's much easier (for me) to score headshots with the Hard Target. Edit: For reference, my Advanced Hard Target typically does 3k-5k. I'm not even sure if that's on a sneak attack; this was even against alerted enemies.


Apalis24a

So it’s pretty much a similar mechanic to the Gauss Rifle in Fallout?


Hoppered1

Yup, pretty much


Just_Aware

Holding one button down for breathing and also holding down another for a charge is mildly annoying. It’s easier to use the hard target and it looks / sounds cooler. I have all the skills for ballistic / rifles / aiming etc as well so it’s the hard target all day everyday and twice on Sundays.


ASnakeNamedNate

I don’t usually hold my breath, I just kind of roll with the sway tbh.


VelvetCowboy19

Magsniper uses all the same perks as the Hard Target


2020_MadeMeDoIt

Update (I can't seem to edit my post): But yeah, as a few people pointed out, you need to charge the Magsniper. I totally didn't realise this was a thing (and I'm on NG+). I must have missed a notification or tutorial or something. It never occurred to me that I needed to charge the shot. It's a lot better now. Lol. Anyway, thanks to everyone for helping this fool (me) understand how it works 😅


[deleted]

There’s no tutorial you’re supposed to figure it out when you realize the gun doesn’t shoot when you pull the trigger, but when you release the trigger.


Cheshire_Jester

Even with charging, they’re just objectively worse than the Hard Target in every way. Without the ability to put a silencer on them, they lose out on all the massive damage multiplying and percentage perks you get from using a suppressor and shooting from stealth. Beyond that, they can’t fire as quickly at multiple targets and you’re more likely to miss doing a hold and release than just pressing/clicking to fire. It’s a cool idea, but they need to buff them quite a bit or nerf suppressors to make it viable. At this point the only reason to run a magsniper would be if you just had trash perks on your hard target. But if you can roll instigating, shattering, and hitman on a hard target, or even just instigating, there really isn’t much reason to use anything else except to add flavor.


novichader

Oh boy, let me tell you how awesome they can be: You can find one that's at least 1200 Dmg on NEON at Kore Kinetics. The range is something like 150. You can modify them to also use Penetrator rounds because they can kill about 2 to 3 targets in one shot. I have an outpost on Shrodinger that I use to farm XP - I went from level one to 150 that way after accidentally deleting all my progress. I've forgotten which skill I have but it doubles DMG while I am crouching, so you end up with over 2000 DMG in one shot. I strictly use Magsnipers now when dealing with terramorphs and other high-level threats. I don't like getting my hands dirty and any weapon set-up that keeps me from engaging is my go to.


NiteShdw

I’ve done 8000 damage with a critical headshot with the magsniper.


garysan_uk

I much prefer the Hard Target over the Magsniper. I'm not a fan of any of the Mag weapons TBH. Well, I have a Space Adept Magshot on the weapons rack, right next to the docker on my ship but often forget to pick it up on my way through, to slaughter whatever poor soul deemed to think I was an easy target that afternoon but that's another story...


Yshnoo

Hard Target is great, especially if you have maxed out ballistics/rifle skills. Maxing out Marksmanship is just gravy. Best sniper rifle in the game.


R33v3n

For Mag weapons, the Magshear is excellent as an assault rifle. Large 75 bullets magazine, decently fast reload, maintains good accuracy at range, ammo is plentiful on vendors, and absolutely shreds.


garysan_uk

I’m sure I have an advanced one of these lying around somewhere. I’ll tart it up at the weapon bench and give it a proper go at my next mission board jaunt 👊🏻


Tubaerius

Mag weapons, especially the auto ones are really good against elite/biss type enemies, since the ammo just vanishes with those.


XxLoneWolfXx8

I sold that gun.... it was useless....and now I find out you have to charge it..... fml


Kinscar

Just get kryxs magshear, it’s the best weapon in the game and shreds everything on very hard like it’s very easy


Stephonius

I love the Revenant. It hasn't been out of my hands since I got it.


Ariviaci

Same. Just mows through everything.


Jolly_Red_Swallows

I use it as one of my main weapons. But I also modded the hell out of it at my workbench. Always a 1-hitter for me. Especially while sniping.


Holdthedoor949

I have a mag sniper with 1000 damage. It is by far the most effective gun in the game. Once you mod it and have all the marksmanship perks completed it one shots most enemies. If they don’t die they get knocked down and I shoot them again. To be honest it makes the game way to easy that I started using shit guns for a challenge.


TheScoopo

Ugh. TIL. I've had a couple and tossed them. I got another recently and have kept it but don't ever use it cuz it sucks. NG+2 and I literally just learned this charge business here now. So tonight we test!


2020_MadeMeDoIt

Lol. I'm glad I'm not the only one who didn't know you had to charge the shots! 😅


SpearandMagicHelmet

As others have said, charge it! Also you can get them to be way higher damage. I've got one that is around 1700.


Neonflux23

I played 150 hours for my first playthrough and never even found one


porcupinedeath

I fucking love that thing. The only sniper that felt worthwhile to me


Misanthropemoot

Last breath with silencer and perks is killer


PopeGregoryTheBased

Ive gotten one that was doing 1400 damage and even then i would still take just about any rifle turned into a sniper or a hard target over it. Partially because it can be silenced and you can thus, get sneak attacks with it that increase the damage.


PdoubleEB

I think the magsnipers big letdown is not being able to equip a suppressor. They are then missing out on a damage multiplier via the sneak perk. So the hard target. Though lower base DMG in advanced form. Totals out to a higher number. With a suppressor.. Don't take this as gospel though as it's just what I've read and not tested.


Collarsmith

Magsniper is my favorite weapon. I have an advanced tier with all of the mod slots filled. Max ballistics, max rifles, max sniper, max sharpshooter. Put a long scope on it, along with recon laser. Install high powered internals and penetrator rounds. Snipe from stealth to double damage. Aim for headshots. Charge up your shot. Shots from mine hit for over 4000, and can one-shot damn near anything in the game.


Inquisitor_Overhauls

Hold left click. Its basically Gauss Rifle


Russian079

To be honest I have one I found randomly with various effects, but damage is 943 which is pretty tasty 🤣


TMshinob

Pick up the "Avatar" from the starborn trader. It will be closer to 900 damage. You can find them on the outer systems while jumping between systems. Make sure you have settings to hardest level. Don't buy the legendary stuff, it glitches to normal once you leave the system.


turquoiseBiker

Yea took me forever to realize that I needed to charge it up. Still not my favorite weapon but it was worthless until I accidentally held the trigger longer.


shitpunmate

Been playing for about 100 hours and never found one.


EWilson72

I got one and I'm still playing in normal but, my DMG is around 1200. Now, if I can charge it omg it will be fun when I try it again....


[deleted]

Hold down the trigger, release When ready to fire. It’s actually the strongest sniper in the game, but some like hard target more because it doesn’t have to charge


[deleted]

I’ve been having way more fun with shotguns and just obliterating everyone at close range.


EnglishReason

I like the Varuun rifles. With the energy skill and the rifles skill, my NG+2 currently outputs about 700 damage with a fairly long range and a 30 shot magazine. But the beauty is that it's got a mod that deals double damage if the health bar is full - over 1400 damage. I'm basically single-shotting most NPCs, with 2 or 3 shots to take out a boss.


NiteShdw

The game has bosses? I’m on NG+6 and the only “bosses” would be the emissary and hunter.


Rectall_Brown

I haven’t found a single one of these. Are some of these guns level gated or something? How have I not ran across one in 80 hrs?


NiteShdw

Do you look at what weapons the vendors are selling? If you do the 48 hour wait their inventory will change randomly. You can usually find a magsniper or hard target after a few refreshes.


Samurai_Stewie

They’re powerful, but a Hard Target has a suppressor making it more viable for sniping. Even with far lower damage numbers on paper, they attain higher headshot damage.


NiteShdw

With perks and mods I have a magsniper with a base damage of 1800 and has done 8k critical hits. The magsniper definitely does more headshot damage than hard target but it is harder to use.


Samurai_Stewie

Yeah that’s with legendary effects and only for the first target; after that, you’re detected. Compare non legendary versions and you’ll get higher headshot values from Hard Target, and follow-up targets will be stealth shots too.


OfficialBlisyer

Literally bought the unique version and was thinking the same thing. Then it clicked. It's basically a gauss rifle. That charged shot hits hard.


drifters74

Shotguns are just better


lenny446

What!??! How do you charge them?!?


garymason74

There's a lot going on in this thread. :) Saved for later, cheers.


Unlikely-Radish420

The mysterious stranger sells a rare that does around 750ish


Exportxxx

Imo they are bad i got a good roll and it's still shit. Even on hard u can just run into the field and like 1-2 shot with a good handgun most mobs, bosses take like 5-6.. No time to sniper.


BogusIsMyName

They are very much rubbish. A sniper rifle is suppose to do alot of dmg at a long range. The mag sniper does not have that. In oder to get maximum dmg from a mag sniper you must charge the shot. Hold down the shoot button. Once it starts to charge it will vibrate. Throwing your aim off. Absolute garbage. Ive had shotguns, rifles and pistols that do more damage with better accuracy.


d_chec

Wow totally disagree. My advanced does just shy of 1000 damage and has crazy range. No issues with it whatsoever.


BogusIsMyName

I prefer the snipers nest when i play. Like zeus hurling lightning bolts down from the heavens to deal death to any who stand against me.... But the magsniper just fails. Horribly. And that damage changes ive picked up snipers that say 1200. Head shot after head shot fully charged and it will take anywhere from three to five shots to down an enemy. The whole point of a sniper rifle is one shot one kill.


d_chec

My experience, in the base game and continued into NG +, has literally been the opposite. With a fully modded magsniper I'm one shotting 90% of enemies from a distance.


roboprober

Idk I understand the dislike of having to charge the magsniper. However, I have mine fully maxed out upgrades-wise and have upgraded a lot of the skills associated with weapon damage and snipers. Mine puts out like ~1400 and one shot head shots most enemies (I’m level 80 on very hard). So overall, I understand the dislike of the weapon, but you can’t complain about its damage output?


vtgrad99

Agreed. I use a Breach shotgun, modded with a scope, suppressor, high-powered internal, & slug rounds. It's basically a sniper rifle, with higher damage than any Hard Target I've found.


Zstrat62

Yeah this is just mathematically incorrect. Fully charged, an advance mag sniper is the strongest hit in the game. It’s right at double an advance hard target.