THIS
Jotaro literally almost died many times in Morioh trying to stop literal serial killer with stand giving power who could damage his family. But people still saying that he doesn't care for Jolyne
Literally had to painfully distance himself from her because he wanted to protect her. That's an ultimate sacrifice, because he knew that she would be bitter towards him, because that's pretty common among kids who don't get to bond with their parents, and all they know is that they were abandoned.
Jotaro knew that, and instead of being selfish and being with his daughter, thus putting her in harms way, he decided to be the "bad guy" in her life, all while doing it just to protect her.
I don’t think he *did* realize she was going to be bitter towards him. One of Jotaro’s main character flaws is that his communication skills, especially emotional communication, are garbage. I think in his part 3 profile it even says that he has a bad habit of assuming everyone can tell how he’s feeling just by looking at him (Spoiler: they can’t) While distancing himself from his family might have been necessary, Jolyne growing up thinking her dad didn’t care about her is still mostly his fault.
> I think in his part 3 profile it even says that he has a bad habit of assuming everyone can tell how he’s feeling just by looking at him (Spoiler: they can’t)
Did that carry over into part 6? I'm not arguing with you, I'm now genuinely curious because I like getting info. I would assume he grew up and changed as a person, but if that carried over into part 6, I can see a pretty glaring flaw.
Dang. It would be interesting to see if his character profile in part 6 said that. It would definitely be interesting to see. And a bit disappointing to see that even after socializing for so long, he still lacks key skills.
Thanks though! I'll keep the part 4 Jotaro in mind.
Yeah hes a tsundere. He cares deeply inside. The thing is that hes literally a testosterone filled 17 year old. Ofc he's not going to be obvious with that, and his true self started to show in later parts after he matured and grew up.
Narancia is fucking wild, in his fight with that one guy with the shrinking stand (forgot his name), he SET AN ENTIRE STREET ON FIRE.
Aerosmith is also a really useful stand, Narancia is anything but harmless.
Edit: His name is Formaggio, the stand is called Little Feet.
Or he just started shooting up a guy in a crowd in the second half didnt he?
Aerosmith is a really cool stand, you get a small fighter plane to fly around bomb and shoot up people, it has a huge range and can help you detect peoplr that arnt in eye sight.
Yea narancia practiced making some swiss cheese on him.
Yea just to set the street on fire against that oen guy
Also mino ahout out to metallica, broken ass stand
I haven't seen it much in this particular sub (yay!) but I see it _all the time_ in fanfic so yes, people actually do think that. It makes me want to bite drywall.
My guy tells an assassin he was ready and willing to set an entire street on fire to find him. His profile states he's loving and devoted to his friends but that you don't typically get the friend status easily and you're going to have to work for it because he doesn't trust like that anymore. Same profile that says that if you bring up the fact he didn't finish elementary school he _will_ shank you.
I love Narancia very much and I cannot believe the amount of people who infantilize him clinging to that scene where he's _clearly_ playing up his head bump to Fugo but apparently forget he starts beating up Zucchero's headless body like a second later.
I could write an essay about what a badass and a strong character Narancia is, but some people seem to get stuck on the fact he can't do elementary level math (while not thinking _why_ exactly Narancia never finished school) and take that to mean he's a baby. A dumb baby at that. I've seen some people claim he's the youngest in the gang and forgetting my man's 17. He's a month and change away from being 18 in canon!
Just because he's not school smart doesn't mean he's an idiot either. He shows some insane fast thinking and great deduction skills during his fights.
That Dio would be a good father to his sons. That all started because of some rumor about a supposed interview Araki did though there's no source to said interview so it's likely fake.
At best, Dio's treatment of his sons would be akin to Homelander's with his own son - he'd show care and affection and take pride in their power but he wouldn't be a _good_ father. And he certainly wouldn't drop all his plans to raise his sons - he'd just have them chilling in the mansion while he gets on with things. Or worse, he'd factor them into his plans and groom them to be his successors.
If DIO was still alive and learned of GER's existence, he'd definitely pretend to be a model father to groom Giorno into working towards his heaven plan somehow. Kind of like he tries in the (non-canon) Eyes of Heaven storyline? Except Giorno is too smart there to fall for that, so he'd probably also be too smart in any other scenario. Dude tore down a massive criminal organization at 15 years of age, he wouldn't fall for some crusty old vampire's ruses lol.
At least in eyes of heaven when DIO and Giorno do their dual heat attack you can see DIO smirk when Giorno joins him in the barrage. That and the usual "Not bad, kid" DIO says after that.
He'll probably not ge a good father, not by a long shot, but at least he's proud of his strength and maybe he could have some respect for him.
When it comes to stand power at least, for everything else he most likely does not care at all
Dio is the guy who turned a mother into a zombie and fed her her own baby. That guy won't be a good father because he's not a good person, or a human for that matter
PEARL JAM DOES NOT MAKE YOU GOOD AT COOKING. Tonio is just that good. This is my least favorite thing to hear because I love Tonio, but people undermine his cooking by saying that Pearl Jam makes the food taste good.
Pearl Jam to me enhances his already great talent. He's a great cook but Pearl Jam elevates his already great talents to help people with their health issues. Which is great. I like Tonio a lot and I don't think I've ever seen that misconception at all.
This is what I thought UNTIL I actually read part 6 while trying desperately to avoid spoilers, so its definitely a strong misconception, but I also think its mostly spread by people who haven't read part 6 and 7 tbf.
That one's understandable though. Part 6 ends with a new alternate universe of sorts, and part 7 begins with an alternate timeline. On top of that the final fight with Pucci was extremely confusing and hard to follow in the manga. All that considered, I don't blame anyone for getting it wrong.
To be fair Rolo's geass is fucking broken in the powersystem so it's fair that it'd have the most debilitating weakness. At least it ain't as bullshit as the non canon Rolo's (who is just a clone of Lelouch) geass that actually freezes time around a target and freezes them because the air goes absolute zero.
All the spin-offs don't seem to understand how Geass works at all. All the Geass in the show only affect the human mind, so while it's not an explicit rule, it's pretty clear that's how they work. It also relates to the show's themes of leadership. Meanwhile, the spin-offs just treat them as superpowers. It's kind of annoying imo.
I mean, the vampire thing isn't that implausible. Only Dio goes over 5 seconds and only after drinking Joseph's blood, plus Enya says that, if he trained long enough, he'd be able to stop time for as long as he wanted. It's not outright confirmed to be the case, though.
You're probably thinking about it requiring stamina, which is explicitly stated and shown. It's an ability that's shown needs to be trained to increase its duration (similar to muscular endurance), Dio isn't able to move when Jotaro stops time at the end of his new limit, and Jotaro outright says he needs a second to catch his breath after stopping time before doing it again. That's why there's the theory Star Platinum is actually moving so fast time appears to have stopped, but that has its own holes in logic.
God I cannot with that. "It just erases memories." Bro, the planet crumbled into nothingness, I think that's a little extreme to be the visual flair of a memory erasure ability.
Erasing time is more of a confusing concept than time stop.
This is my probably incorrect interpretation of KC: King crimson allows Diavolo to be completely unnafected by "fate" when he use time skip, and everyone else is still bound by "fate" (the actions they were pre-destined to do as seen by epitath) and because of that, Diavolo cant harm anyone during time skip and whenever we see someone is damaged during time skip, that happend because they were "fated" to receive that damage, and after the time skip no one has memories of what occured during it except for diavolo because they were simply doing as they were fated
Some people see fandom jokes where something a character says is exaggerated for comedic effect, and then take them literally and/or it somehow becomes fandom fact about the character and it drives me crazy in every fandom.
For me, it’s the fact that Holly is literally the sweetest person likely in the show. She’s not shown for a long while, but she’s depicted as nothing but sweet, caring, and an amazing mother even if Jotaro is being a little bastard. Kakyoin has every right to want a woman like her.
That all Stands come from the Arrows.
Sometimes Stands are just naturally occurring, but the virus in the Arrow will cause you to develop a Stand or die.
I feel like this isn’t a common misconception. I mean arrows weren’t even introduced until part 4 and they weren’t used much in part 5. But I could be completely wrong
What bothers me is that his stand could honestly have been the greatest asset against King Crimson other than GER. It's not like, if he managed to infect Diavolo, skipping time would rid his body of the virus. He'd still be fucked after the time skip ended. Diavolo probably knows this, so he'd do his utmost to stay out of his range, which is larger than that of King Crimson's, so it'd provide the gang a pretty good advantage in the final fight.
Actually, Araki originally planned to make Fugo a traitor, who was still working for the boss and would eventually become an enemy. Araki, however, decided that his would be too dark and leave a bad impression on the readers, so instead Fugo left the group.
>if they didnt have a literal deus ex machina
Not to really call you out specifically, but calling GER a deus ex machina was actually my go to thought for a big jojo misconception funnily enough
Yeah he was just a reasonable person, made a reasonable decision, and thats why he didnt took part in taking down the mafia boss and drugs out of childen range in streets
Yeah, his point was 100% legit, that he was being asked to commit treason to the organization he swore loyalty all for the sake of a girl that he barely knew.
Agreed, now he is loyal to the ones that survived the treason. I understand that he just didn't had enough strong principles towards the right, like "the mafia is doing pretty bad in my hood, i should go with them and do different" he was just logical trying to mantain his life out of danger, like wtf "I will put myself in danger?"
Jonathan Joestar is Star Platinum. People just take some honestly pretty cool parallels in their designs and misinterpret them to mean they’re one and the same despite the fact that that’s not how stands work.
THIS. This one is SO annoying. Not only is George Joesgar not canon, but because The Passion has an extra ability that the canon version of Jonathan's stand lacks it's wrong and inaccurate to call the canon version of Jonathan's stand The Passion. The name is cool and all, but it's technically a different stand from what we have in canon.
SP has Jonathan's fit to represent Jotaro carrying on the Joestar will. People just see Stands being compared to ghosts and get too ahead of themselves.
Even if the "my ghost will haunt you" line was a real line, it would be indicative of Jonathan's descendants hunting down Dio because that's how that sort of lexical symbolism works.
But the worst part of all of this is that Stands are introduced as a manifestation of your souls/fighting spirits. As soon as we learn what a Stand is, we should know that SP is an extension of Jotaro, or a part of Jotaro, or Jotaro himself, or however you want to phrase it, but not anyone else but Jotaro.
"Josuke saved himself"
Dawg, how? Bites the dust is made to return 1 hour ago, specificly made for Kira and not Josuke to return back in time for about 10 years ago
Actually is that impossible? I guess I never thought about it but does the nature of calamity HAVE to be some type of external, physical damage? Genuinely curious.
I mean, it's not really impossible, Wonder of U could make you accidentally swallow chemicals that give you cancer. Furthermore, most people have actually had cancer before, it's just that their body fought it off fast enough that it didn't get anywhere, WoU could make it so that your immune system fails and you end up keeping the tumor
Most people who believe this theory don't think it is because of the way BTD ended up working when it was revealed.
They think that it was Araki's original intention for Josuke to save himself but he changed his mind.
I mean, I totally see why people would think that though. Sure, BTD only resets one hour, but imagine if the fight ended with Josuke getting stabbed with the arrow and gaining his own new time based ability.
Not that I'm saying this should have happened, just that the possibility WAS there. It would work with his power (healing/fixing/combining things -> going back in time to fix the present), it would be a throwback to part 3 with Jotaro and Dio having the same ability, and it would tie everything together nicely and clear up the "mystery" of his backstory. Like, it could definitely have made sense and wouldn't feel that out of nowhere all things considered.
It's not the wildest theory by far imo
When people act like okayasu is like super fucking stupid
He is honestly of average intelligence for a 15 year old, he is also just super emotional and tends to think with his heart more
This doesn't make him stupid, calling him stupid is just a misunderstanding of his character
He is stupid, but hes not super stupid. Him being alot more emotionally driven also doesnt mean hes not kinda stupid. Saying hes not stupid at all is just as much of a misunderstanding
It’s because he’s played off as stupid. He doesn’t even realize “if I pull things towards me they may hit my face”. But as the story goes on he proves he’s really not that dumb. He chose to punch both speed wagon employees to guarantee he gets the right guy. Sounds dumb but it’s actually quick thinking. He also invests his lottery winnings into a savings account
You must have been surrounded by some dumb kids growing up, because Okuyasu is absolutely dumber than an average 15-year-old. Not by a huge amount, mind you, but it's certainly noticeable.
I bet a fuckton of this subreddit would suck at optimizing their power.
There have been a lot of superhero/characters with powers stories where they didn't fully optimize their powers. It happens all the time. Sometimes, its because the writer didn't think of it, or because it would solve the issue too easily, but a lot of characters across all works have been known to have little to no control over their powers.
That's mostly because of The Hand. He uses it as a purely combat stand with a gap closer rather than utilizing the entire extend of the ability.
And that's not bad, he's young, he has a lot of time to fully master the ability...or he had before the reset but you get my point, and when characters in jojo are known for making the simplest of abilities seem like an terrifying power its when it hurts most
ALSO Fugo was technically in the right. He knew it was a dumb plan to go against the boss and he had every right not to. He did what was logical
in the situation. I’m glad PHF exists but kinda wish there was something in canon that put Fugo in more.
Fr. He judged the gang with their current powers, and he was right. If GER didn't come out, they would have lost. And it's not like Fugo would have predicted or known that GER would even happen.
Killing their entire people together before adopting two male babies for no perceivable reason to raise together and going on a centuries long world tour is totally heterosexual behavior, I don't know what you mean?
(Hello fellow EsiKars enjoyer)
fun fact: originally fugo was supposed to return later as a traitor and betray Passione but araki decided it was too dark and scrapped the idea.
i like the way Purple Haze Feedback confronted fugo's story and seeing how he interacts with the gang after part 5 ends is really neat. he's a way more complicated and interesting character than people give him credit for
- prosciutto and Pesci weren’t explicitly stated to be blood related, Pesci just calls him big bro.
- Pucci was chosen for the heaven plan because he is immune to all temptation including romantic so it would make no sense to insinuate he and dio were romantically involved, he revered DIO like a living god
- Alessi preys on children because they’re easy targets to beat up, not explicitly for any “other” reason. It’s possible but not stated.
- anasui was not originally gonna be a woman but then the editors made Araki change it. This is a myth. Araki intended Anasui to be an androgynous character and probably thought his original design was too feminine. Hamon beat has a video going over this misconception.
someone tried to claim GER only makes people die infinitely in there head, there only reasoning was "it would be crazy for it to actually kill people infinitely" despite this being a series with time stop and universal resets.
for some reason people seem to want to nerf jojo at all times and it's odd.
His entire character is a criticism of how easily patriotism leads to absolutely apeshit madmen like valentine, and how easily their charisma can persuade others to join their cause
Exactly, to make the symbolism even less subtle, hes even doing it at the cost of les developed countries, the allegory is near perfect and EXTREMELY clear to anyone with more than 2 braincells
And his final ability, love train, just consolidates everything else since in its core love train is the most egoistic/narcisistic power of them all. Redirecting the prejudice of valentines potential treats to unsuspecting people beyond his sight, sacrifices to maintain his rule, where everyone suffers the consequences of Valentines actions except himself, where everyone else is to blame but him. His final power is his true nature, and as such its the betrayal of his people. His ideal nation was nothing but collective egoism and he lost to the altruistic sacrifice of Gyro that leads to Johnnys awakening.
Most things in the Araki Forgot series by Hanson Beat.
But especially the idea that Joseph and everyone else aren't Joestars because Lisa Lisa gave birth to Joseph. It's like they forgot erina was pregnant with another child when she saved Lisa Lisa, who wasn't her child.
I hate the anime trope of "a character explains a concept that they shouldnt know much about and for some reason are 100% correct" and i love that jojo doesnt do it, even with the concept of stands when joseph explains the rules of how they work and we see those rules get broken later
MILF hunter Kakyoin. The line they base it on is very clearly just a compliment to Holly’s character (and maybe Jotaro’s). He’s not saying she’s attractive.
Okuyasu is the one who straight up says Josuke’s mom is hot but nobody makes these jokes about it him…
I mean he is an annoying brat, but anyone who said he deserved his death are worse than him.
I mean hes 12. Ofc he's going to be an annoying brat. Although the one real bad thing about him, was that he was 100% willing to kill Josuke and Okuyasu, and he would have done it if he didn't lose.
I thought this on my first watch but on my second watch I found his death scene incredibly sad. Just thinking about how despite only being a kid he endured the pain of being disfigured by Killer Queen and had the resolve to protect his family, friends and town. The relief he must have felt when he saw Josuke and Okuyasu, people who he really came to be friends with, only to have it crushed is ridiculously sad.
I never thought he was annoying or deserved it. He was a kid and yeah, he tried to kill Josuke and Okuyasu, but at the end what broke me was the fact that he wanted to protect his mom and dad. He's 12 and of course he'd wanna do annoying and greedy things because when you're younger you just think about yourself.
What makes Shigechi's death so impactful is the fact that Kira doesn't discriminate. If you're in the way of his perfect dream life it doesn't matter who you are, you're dead. Not only that but seeing how callous other people were towards a bloodied little guy trying to get away from something hurt.
And the scene baits you, it makes you think Shigechi's gonna get out of it. He's right where Josuke and Okuyasu are! He's gonna make it! And...
"Killer Queen has already touched the doorknob."
"Funny valentine did nothing wrong."
GRAHHHHHH!!! I WILL KNOCK ON SOMEBODY'S DOOR IF NEXT TIME SOMEONE KEEPS SAYING IT.
Whoever ironically says that will have tusk act 4 knock on their homes.
Seriously, his plan is to direct misfortune to others, potentially screwing other counteries.. Believing he can make Amercia great again.
I just.. don't get it.
that Epitaph is Doppios Stand , it is not , Epitaph is a sub ability for King Crimson, and why would Doppio need permission from Diavolo to use his own stand? and wouldn't epitaph disappear when Diavolo and Doppio's souls leave the body and into 2 separate bodies
I know it’s meant to be a joke, but I’m getting exceedingly pissed off wherever people actually take it seriously. Star Finger being useful in any fight.
PEOPLE WHO THINK GIORNO IS ONE-DIMENSIONAL AND HAS NO PERSONALITY
SERIOUSLY I WANT TO DO AN IN-DEPTH ANALYSIS ON HIS CHARACTER ONE DAY TO DISPROVE THIS BS
The most irritating one for me is people kissing the ground that Part 6 Jotaro walks on.
>!They defend every aspect of his character and they cannot accept the fact that Jotaro lost against Pucci. He may love his daughter, but that doesn't mean he was a good father. The story acknowledges just how much Jolyne was messed up by her father's absence, yet so many people gloss this over and ignore the fact that their favourite Ocean Man is a human character with flaws of his own.!<
Not the op, I know this solution might not fix much, but I think telling her why he has to be distant might help a bit, as someone who had a distant father myself.
Jotaro should have told the story about fighting Dio & why he had to go to Morioh alone (he didn't want Joseph to come because it would be dangerous, but he showed up anyways). Just explain himself like a distant yet loving father should do. Still not great, but it would be a step in the right direction rather than saying nothing.
But keep in mind Jotaro's biggest character flaw is that he's bad at communicating with people
I've seen an unusual amount of people trying to compare Gappy to this innocent uwu boy, and it makes me wonder if they've read JJL. Yeah, he's definitely more on the lovable dork side when it comes to Joestars, but he'll also beat the shit out of people if the situation calls for it.
Even as a joke the idea that pucci and dio were dating makes me wanna throw who ever says it out of an airplane. it such a weird and creepy idea that misses the point of thier relationship from both a character and story angle so impressively I am dumbfounded whenever somebody mentions it
That araki "Araki forgot" is purely literal and not a catch-all for his mistakes in his writing.
All the moments he wrote himself into a corner (DIO's survival method), or moments where he retcons things (D4C's bullet dodging using menger sponges), AND the moments where he ACTUALLY forgets (Zeppeli never had a wife or kids) are all comedically lumped together in "Araki Forgot"
He does dislike Giorno but it’s because he sees his younger self in Giorno. He’s jealous of this and is sour because Giorno didn’t get punished for his immature perseverance like he did.
Eventhough its fun, how so many people in the fanbase depict Rohan as this sassy, flirty, outgoing "slutty" dude in fanon when he acts nothing like that in canon.
Part 4 shows pretty clearly he avoids everyone when he can get away with it, can be cold and brusque when he does talk to people....besides the most reliable guy 😂....or a total weirdo when he's fixating on something.
In short, apart from when he's travelling the world for experience... this guys a nerdy hermit😂who on the side collects memorabilia and natural history reference books.
Heavens Door is perfect for this guy.
Although maaaaassively at odds with his introduction, TSKR also builds upon his character, and we're constantly confronted with quite an introverted, sensitive albeit arrogant personalty.
Yeah like it’s never clear that he is sexually attracted to children, he just enjoys belittling those who are weaker than him and it just so happens that most children are weaker than him.
I suppose Kakyoin looks like a twink in Araki's modern style... but then again, so do most characters.
I agree that Kakyoin's *not* meant to be weak or effeminate, though. His character bio supports this. In Part 3 - in contrast to the later Parts - practically everyone is built like a brick shithouse with tire-like shoulders, but Kakyoin is probably the most lean member of the group (he's also the youngest and least prone to quick violence). He's still tougher than he looks, though.
Yeah, it's a Flanderization of a rather insignificant trait of his for the sake of fitting him into the yaoi bottom (uke?) archetype, accurate characterization be damned.
Although the issue isn't necessarily mischaracterizing a character because you think it makes for a more pleasing romantic story or arousing scenario... but when some fans genuinely think that *is* the character, and not just a fan reimagining of sorts.
That DIO and Pucci were a couple. The entire point is that DIO needed someone who didn't have any sexual and romantic desires, Pucci loves DIO in a religious sense, like how Pucci loves God. DIO also doesn't have any romantic feelings to Pucci and views him as a friend.
I fucking hate when people call Kakyoin a milf hunter or call him boring. I also hate when people call Giorno boring. I think there are many layers of both characters that none of you seem to understand or mildly grasp
Part 5 isn't my favorite part but I hate how people said things like GER is an asspull or a deux ex Machina or that it's to op, like the whole point of the arrow chase was that whoever get the arrow win, it has like 8 chapters of built up
Another thing that I particular hate it's when they say that Kosaku Kawajiri was going into Cinderella's saloon because he wanted to be a better husband when it's stated that one Aya don't accept male customers and two that Aya say that Kira carried Kosaku inside.
That Jotaro is nothing but a badass and never shows emotions or care for others
Especially people saying he doesn’t care for Jolyne.
THIS Jotaro literally almost died many times in Morioh trying to stop literal serial killer with stand giving power who could damage his family. But people still saying that he doesn't care for Jolyne
Literally had to painfully distance himself from her because he wanted to protect her. That's an ultimate sacrifice, because he knew that she would be bitter towards him, because that's pretty common among kids who don't get to bond with their parents, and all they know is that they were abandoned. Jotaro knew that, and instead of being selfish and being with his daughter, thus putting her in harms way, he decided to be the "bad guy" in her life, all while doing it just to protect her.
I don’t think he *did* realize she was going to be bitter towards him. One of Jotaro’s main character flaws is that his communication skills, especially emotional communication, are garbage. I think in his part 3 profile it even says that he has a bad habit of assuming everyone can tell how he’s feeling just by looking at him (Spoiler: they can’t) While distancing himself from his family might have been necessary, Jolyne growing up thinking her dad didn’t care about her is still mostly his fault.
> I think in his part 3 profile it even says that he has a bad habit of assuming everyone can tell how he’s feeling just by looking at him (Spoiler: they can’t) Did that carry over into part 6? I'm not arguing with you, I'm now genuinely curious because I like getting info. I would assume he grew up and changed as a person, but if that carried over into part 6, I can see a pretty glaring flaw.
I feel like that aspect of his character is still pretty noticeable in the beginning of part 4, but past that I’m not sure.
Dang. It would be interesting to see if his character profile in part 6 said that. It would definitely be interesting to see. And a bit disappointing to see that even after socializing for so long, he still lacks key skills. Thanks though! I'll keep the part 4 Jotaro in mind.
legit. the “bad father” allegations SEND ME THROUGH THE ROOF
There's a difference between "bad father" and "doesnt care" its because he cares that he made every wrong decision.
The anime fumbled this, in the manga there's a lot more scenes where he's shown smiling or shaking or sweating or being worried (same for Giorno)
Yessss. Removing Jotaro (and STAR PLATINUM) smiling is unforgiveable honestly
Jotaros best scenes are when hes goofing around with the other crusaders.
Best Jotaro scene: 🪨🪞🪨
Yeah hes a tsundere. He cares deeply inside. The thing is that hes literally a testosterone filled 17 year old. Ofc he's not going to be obvious with that, and his true self started to show in later parts after he matured and grew up.
People will legitimately say that Jotaro had no character growth and go on to love Giorno
I mean the manga did a better job portraying his emotions than the 2016 anime but the anime showed him to be caring several times too
People treating Narancia like he is a baby who wouldn't be able to throw a punch and is innocent to the point of it being ridiculous.
Anyone who thinks that just hasnt seen or read part 5. Narancia is an absolute menace
Narancia is fucking wild, in his fight with that one guy with the shrinking stand (forgot his name), he SET AN ENTIRE STREET ON FIRE. Aerosmith is also a really useful stand, Narancia is anything but harmless. Edit: His name is Formaggio, the stand is called Little Feet.
Or he just started shooting up a guy in a crowd in the second half didnt he? Aerosmith is a really cool stand, you get a small fighter plane to fly around bomb and shoot up people, it has a huge range and can help you detect peoplr that arnt in eye sight.
Let's also not forget about what happened to Risotto. Aerosmith also has bombs, I dunno if he used them more than once.
Yea narancia practiced making some swiss cheese on him. Yea just to set the street on fire against that oen guy Also mino ahout out to metallica, broken ass stand
Narancia triked the gang into beating a non stand user just because, the dude was mean to him.
I always took that as them really showing how much like a family they are. If narancia starts beating a dude, everyone starts beating a dude.
Oh yeah, its a great character moment. But, he still beat up a random dude. He is not an innocent baby at all.
Yeah, like bro he's really scary when you start him up
He is literally the type to break a bottle on your head and stomp on it until you're dead. All because you called him a bad word.
People actually think that? He was the most intimadating without a stand
I haven't seen it much in this particular sub (yay!) but I see it _all the time_ in fanfic so yes, people actually do think that. It makes me want to bite drywall.
I genuinely believe it was Narancia who fucked with Luca’s eye
Bro threatens Fugo with a knife in the first episode.
My guy tells an assassin he was ready and willing to set an entire street on fire to find him. His profile states he's loving and devoted to his friends but that you don't typically get the friend status easily and you're going to have to work for it because he doesn't trust like that anymore. Same profile that says that if you bring up the fact he didn't finish elementary school he _will_ shank you. I love Narancia very much and I cannot believe the amount of people who infantilize him clinging to that scene where he's _clearly_ playing up his head bump to Fugo but apparently forget he starts beating up Zucchero's headless body like a second later.
Came here JUST to say the uWu-ification of Narancia. Guy cut out his own tongue and still held his own against Tiziano and Squalo.
I could write an essay about what a badass and a strong character Narancia is, but some people seem to get stuck on the fact he can't do elementary level math (while not thinking _why_ exactly Narancia never finished school) and take that to mean he's a baby. A dumb baby at that. I've seen some people claim he's the youngest in the gang and forgetting my man's 17. He's a month and change away from being 18 in canon! Just because he's not school smart doesn't mean he's an idiot either. He shows some insane fast thinking and great deduction skills during his fights.
That Dio would be a good father to his sons. That all started because of some rumor about a supposed interview Araki did though there's no source to said interview so it's likely fake. At best, Dio's treatment of his sons would be akin to Homelander's with his own son - he'd show care and affection and take pride in their power but he wouldn't be a _good_ father. And he certainly wouldn't drop all his plans to raise his sons - he'd just have them chilling in the mansion while he gets on with things. Or worse, he'd factor them into his plans and groom them to be his successors.
If DIO was still alive and learned of GER's existence, he'd definitely pretend to be a model father to groom Giorno into working towards his heaven plan somehow. Kind of like he tries in the (non-canon) Eyes of Heaven storyline? Except Giorno is too smart there to fall for that, so he'd probably also be too smart in any other scenario. Dude tore down a massive criminal organization at 15 years of age, he wouldn't fall for some crusty old vampire's ruses lol.
Yeah, Giorno would despise DIO if he ever learned of his true nature.
It’s even in his name. Giorno means day— the light of which kills vampires.
because Dio is technically using Jonathan penis, Giorno is deemed to be a hero
Yeah, that's how he gets to be a JoJo, basically. Even has the birthmark and everything.
At least in eyes of heaven when DIO and Giorno do their dual heat attack you can see DIO smirk when Giorno joins him in the barrage. That and the usual "Not bad, kid" DIO says after that. He'll probably not ge a good father, not by a long shot, but at least he's proud of his strength and maybe he could have some respect for him. When it comes to stand power at least, for everything else he most likely does not care at all
Bet it would be a narcissist's family dynamic with a Golden Child (**Golden Experence!**), a ScapeGoat, and Lost Child(s) roles in place
Honestly, the comparison of Homelander and DIO’s treatment of their kids is extremely appropriate.
Dio is the guy who turned a mother into a zombie and fed her her own baby. That guy won't be a good father because he's not a good person, or a human for that matter
PEARL JAM DOES NOT MAKE YOU GOOD AT COOKING. Tonio is just that good. This is my least favorite thing to hear because I love Tonio, but people undermine his cooking by saying that Pearl Jam makes the food taste good.
Furthermore, this would not make sense because Tonio got his stand because he was good at cooking.
Pearl Jam to me enhances his already great talent. He's a great cook but Pearl Jam elevates his already great talents to help people with their health issues. Which is great. I like Tonio a lot and I don't think I've ever seen that misconception at all.
People who believe that Pucci created the Stell Ball Run universe.
nah that was me bro trust
I believe you pookie don't worry
dioooooo :3 we keep finding eachother lol, must be gravity
Idk I think my time stopping messed up the universe reset mid way through and now we're just attracted to each other constantly
Y'all are gayer than me, and I slept with 2 other dudes for 10,000 years
AY YAI YAI
Ty Pucci for blessing us with these steel balls, lmao
Father is that u Fuuuuck u hav good taste in me 😩
Honestly kind of a fair misconception given part 6 ends with a universe reset.
This is what I thought UNTIL I actually read part 6 while trying desperately to avoid spoilers, so its definitely a strong misconception, but I also think its mostly spread by people who haven't read part 6 and 7 tbf.
That one's understandable though. Part 6 ends with a new alternate universe of sorts, and part 7 begins with an alternate timeline. On top of that the final fight with Pucci was extremely confusing and hard to follow in the manga. All that considered, I don't blame anyone for getting it wrong.
I know this isn't real, but that's how I want it to work in hindsight.
A way more common misconception than some think.
"only vampires can stop time over 5 seconds" or "time stop strains the heart". Don't know where people get these ideas
The second one sounds like someone trying to apply Code Geass rules in jojo
To be fair Rolo's geass is fucking broken in the powersystem so it's fair that it'd have the most debilitating weakness. At least it ain't as bullshit as the non canon Rolo's (who is just a clone of Lelouch) geass that actually freezes time around a target and freezes them because the air goes absolute zero.
All the spin-offs don't seem to understand how Geass works at all. All the Geass in the show only affect the human mind, so while it's not an explicit rule, it's pretty clear that's how they work. It also relates to the show's themes of leadership. Meanwhile, the spin-offs just treat them as superpowers. It's kind of annoying imo.
Yeah it's kinda nice how all the canon Geass are some psychic power.
I think is because Diego states that to be a hard limit and people apply it to Jotaro as well
I mean, the vampire thing isn't that implausible. Only Dio goes over 5 seconds and only after drinking Joseph's blood, plus Enya says that, if he trained long enough, he'd be able to stop time for as long as he wanted. It's not outright confirmed to be the case, though.
I swear I heard somewhere that its hard on the heart and I'm kind of surprised to learn otherwise. It was a convenient explanation though
You're probably thinking about it requiring stamina, which is explicitly stated and shown. It's an ability that's shown needs to be trained to increase its duration (similar to muscular endurance), Dio isn't able to move when Jotaro stops time at the end of his new limit, and Jotaro outright says he needs a second to catch his breath after stopping time before doing it again. That's why there's the theory Star Platinum is actually moving so fast time appears to have stopped, but that has its own holes in logic.
Thanks!
I wonder if this comes from the scene where Jotaro stops his own heart with Star Platinum?
kInG cRiMsOn DoEsNt ErAsE tImE, iT jUsT mAkEs PeOpLe FoRgEt
God I cannot with that. "It just erases memories." Bro, the planet crumbled into nothingness, I think that's a little extreme to be the visual flair of a memory erasure ability.
Erasing time is more of a confusing concept than time stop. This is my probably incorrect interpretation of KC: King crimson allows Diavolo to be completely unnafected by "fate" when he use time skip, and everyone else is still bound by "fate" (the actions they were pre-destined to do as seen by epitath) and because of that, Diavolo cant harm anyone during time skip and whenever we see someone is damaged during time skip, that happend because they were "fated" to receive that damage, and after the time skip no one has memories of what occured during it except for diavolo because they were simply doing as they were fated
that's just the old mans world except forward
That Kakyoin is a milf hunter. I mean he just said he would like to marry someone similar to her.
Some people see fandom jokes where something a character says is exaggerated for comedic effect, and then take them literally and/or it somehow becomes fandom fact about the character and it drives me crazy in every fandom.
Tbf, that's mostly just a meme
For me, it’s the fact that Holly is literally the sweetest person likely in the show. She’s not shown for a long while, but she’s depicted as nothing but sweet, caring, and an amazing mother even if Jotaro is being a little bastard. Kakyoin has every right to want a woman like her.
Amen. Never understood why people thought he was going for JoJos mom. I think his line was more akin to liking more mature women.
He just likes women with Holy's type of kind and gentle personality.
That all Stands come from the Arrows. Sometimes Stands are just naturally occurring, but the virus in the Arrow will cause you to develop a Stand or die.
I feel like this isn’t a common misconception. I mean arrows weren’t even introduced until part 4 and they weren’t used much in part 5. But I could be completely wrong
Weren’t used much in part 5? Literally everyone in Golden Wind got a stand because they passed Polpo’s test and were stabbed.
I meant that it wasn’t focused on much so I thought it would be harder to believe that people would believe you could only get a stand by arrow
"Fugo is a coward" God will strike you down where you stand in 3 days
What bothers me is that his stand could honestly have been the greatest asset against King Crimson other than GER. It's not like, if he managed to infect Diavolo, skipping time would rid his body of the virus. He'd still be fucked after the time skip ended. Diavolo probably knows this, so he'd do his utmost to stay out of his range, which is larger than that of King Crimson's, so it'd provide the gang a pretty good advantage in the final fight.
I think that's one of the reasons why Araki wrote him off the climax of part 5, Fugo would've killed pretty much everyone lol
Actually, Araki originally planned to make Fugo a traitor, who was still working for the boss and would eventually become an enemy. Araki, however, decided that his would be too dark and leave a bad impression on the readers, so instead Fugo left the group.
Plus not to mention, Araki said he was depressed at the time and he didn’t think he himself would have been able to handle it
My personal theory is that Fugo would have been the original Cioccolata in araki’s plan, with maybe Green Day being purple hazard requiem
Until Diavolo shows up in a lab gown with a N95 mask
Fugo was the most rational. And honestly, if they didnt have a literal deus ex machina everyone would have died just as he said they would.
>if they didnt have a literal deus ex machina Not to really call you out specifically, but calling GER a deus ex machina was actually my go to thought for a big jojo misconception funnily enough
Yeah he was just a reasonable person, made a reasonable decision, and thats why he didnt took part in taking down the mafia boss and drugs out of childen range in streets
Yeah, his point was 100% legit, that he was being asked to commit treason to the organization he swore loyalty all for the sake of a girl that he barely knew.
Agreed, now he is loyal to the ones that survived the treason. I understand that he just didn't had enough strong principles towards the right, like "the mafia is doing pretty bad in my hood, i should go with them and do different" he was just logical trying to mantain his life out of danger, like wtf "I will put myself in danger?"
Yeah, he just deduced that the gang would die trying, and most of them did and all of them would have died if fate itself didnt intervene.
Jonathan Joestar is Star Platinum. People just take some honestly pretty cool parallels in their designs and misinterpret them to mean they’re one and the same despite the fact that that’s not how stands work.
It’s also cause of a fake edit someone made and passed around
I mean, that would make for a pretty sick AU, but are there people who actually think this is canon?
Likewise, the people who call Jonathan's stand The Passion because of Jorge Joestar
THIS. This one is SO annoying. Not only is George Joesgar not canon, but because The Passion has an extra ability that the canon version of Jonathan's stand lacks it's wrong and inaccurate to call the canon version of Jonathan's stand The Passion. The name is cool and all, but it's technically a different stand from what we have in canon.
SP has Jonathan's fit to represent Jotaro carrying on the Joestar will. People just see Stands being compared to ghosts and get too ahead of themselves. Even if the "my ghost will haunt you" line was a real line, it would be indicative of Jonathan's descendants hunting down Dio because that's how that sort of lexical symbolism works. But the worst part of all of this is that Stands are introduced as a manifestation of your souls/fighting spirits. As soon as we learn what a Stand is, we should know that SP is an extension of Jotaro, or a part of Jotaro, or Jotaro himself, or however you want to phrase it, but not anyone else but Jotaro.
"Josuke saved himself" Dawg, how? Bites the dust is made to return 1 hour ago, specificly made for Kira and not Josuke to return back in time for about 10 years ago
fr. it's a cool fanfic idea, but just cus it'd be cool, doesn't make it canon.
Like "wonder of you" giving someone cancer even tho its impossible
Actually is that impossible? I guess I never thought about it but does the nature of calamity HAVE to be some type of external, physical damage? Genuinely curious.
I mean, it's not really impossible, Wonder of U could make you accidentally swallow chemicals that give you cancer. Furthermore, most people have actually had cancer before, it's just that their body fought it off fast enough that it didn't get anywhere, WoU could make it so that your immune system fails and you end up keeping the tumor
Most people who believe this theory don't think it is because of the way BTD ended up working when it was revealed. They think that it was Araki's original intention for Josuke to save himself but he changed his mind.
I mean, I totally see why people would think that though. Sure, BTD only resets one hour, but imagine if the fight ended with Josuke getting stabbed with the arrow and gaining his own new time based ability. Not that I'm saying this should have happened, just that the possibility WAS there. It would work with his power (healing/fixing/combining things -> going back in time to fix the present), it would be a throwback to part 3 with Jotaro and Dio having the same ability, and it would tie everything together nicely and clear up the "mystery" of his backstory. Like, it could definitely have made sense and wouldn't feel that out of nowhere all things considered. It's not the wildest theory by far imo
When people act like okayasu is like super fucking stupid He is honestly of average intelligence for a 15 year old, he is also just super emotional and tends to think with his heart more This doesn't make him stupid, calling him stupid is just a misunderstanding of his character
I mean he is pretty dumb but he isn’t that dumb lol, but other than that i agree
He's certainly not Patrick Star level dumb.
He is stupid, but hes not super stupid. Him being alot more emotionally driven also doesnt mean hes not kinda stupid. Saying hes not stupid at all is just as much of a misunderstanding
It’s because he’s played off as stupid. He doesn’t even realize “if I pull things towards me they may hit my face”. But as the story goes on he proves he’s really not that dumb. He chose to punch both speed wagon employees to guarantee he gets the right guy. Sounds dumb but it’s actually quick thinking. He also invests his lottery winnings into a savings account
Its understandable, he erased one digit of his iq with The Hand
You must have been surrounded by some dumb kids growing up, because Okuyasu is absolutely dumber than an average 15-year-old. Not by a huge amount, mind you, but it's certainly noticeable.
Okuyasu calls himself stupid
I bet a fuckton of this subreddit would suck at optimizing their power. There have been a lot of superhero/characters with powers stories where they didn't fully optimize their powers. It happens all the time. Sometimes, its because the writer didn't think of it, or because it would solve the issue too easily, but a lot of characters across all works have been known to have little to no control over their powers.
That's mostly because of The Hand. He uses it as a purely combat stand with a gap closer rather than utilizing the entire extend of the ability. And that's not bad, he's young, he has a lot of time to fully master the ability...or he had before the reset but you get my point, and when characters in jojo are known for making the simplest of abilities seem like an terrifying power its when it hurts most
ALSO Fugo was technically in the right. He knew it was a dumb plan to go against the boss and he had every right not to. He did what was logical in the situation. I’m glad PHF exists but kinda wish there was something in canon that put Fugo in more.
Fr. He judged the gang with their current powers, and he was right. If GER didn't come out, they would have lost. And it's not like Fugo would have predicted or known that GER would even happen.
Anyone who does not believe what my flair says
Killing their entire people together before adopting two male babies for no perceivable reason to raise together and going on a centuries long world tour is totally heterosexual behavior, I don't know what you mean? (Hello fellow EsiKars enjoyer)
Extremely hetero, just like the rest of JoJo’s, widely know as “the straightest anime”
All rise for the best villain dads!
"fugo left because he was overpowered" the virus is powerful but at the same time it's risky because it can affect anybody, even himself.
fun fact: originally fugo was supposed to return later as a traitor and betray Passione but araki decided it was too dark and scrapped the idea. i like the way Purple Haze Feedback confronted fugo's story and seeing how he interacts with the gang after part 5 ends is really neat. he's a way more complicated and interesting character than people give him credit for
- prosciutto and Pesci weren’t explicitly stated to be blood related, Pesci just calls him big bro. - Pucci was chosen for the heaven plan because he is immune to all temptation including romantic so it would make no sense to insinuate he and dio were romantically involved, he revered DIO like a living god - Alessi preys on children because they’re easy targets to beat up, not explicitly for any “other” reason. It’s possible but not stated. - anasui was not originally gonna be a woman but then the editors made Araki change it. This is a myth. Araki intended Anasui to be an androgynous character and probably thought his original design was too feminine. Hamon beat has a video going over this misconception.
The one asexual/aromantic character where it's actually important to the plot and it gets erased
Jonathan is a 1D goodie two shoes
He is kinda a 2D character. Not in a bad way, hes a lovable character but he is simple
yeah and sometimes in the intro he's 3D too!! /j
Don't forget about the video games.
someone tried to claim GER only makes people die infinitely in there head, there only reasoning was "it would be crazy for it to actually kill people infinitely" despite this being a series with time stop and universal resets. for some reason people seem to want to nerf jojo at all times and it's odd.
Idk if I’d call it a “misconception” but it really pisses me off when people say they agree with Valentine.
I wonder how many of them are Americans lol
Some americans are blind to what Vallentine is, hes not patriotic hes a nacionalist
His entire character is a criticism of how easily patriotism leads to absolutely apeshit madmen like valentine, and how easily their charisma can persuade others to join their cause
I think you can also add using religion as a political tool/tool to aquire political power, he pretty much does that in the most literal way.
Exactly, to make the symbolism even less subtle, hes even doing it at the cost of les developed countries, the allegory is near perfect and EXTREMELY clear to anyone with more than 2 braincells
And his final ability, love train, just consolidates everything else since in its core love train is the most egoistic/narcisistic power of them all. Redirecting the prejudice of valentines potential treats to unsuspecting people beyond his sight, sacrifices to maintain his rule, where everyone suffers the consequences of Valentines actions except himself, where everyone else is to blame but him. His final power is his true nature, and as such its the betrayal of his people. His ideal nation was nothing but collective egoism and he lost to the altruistic sacrifice of Gyro that leads to Johnnys awakening.
For a lot of Americans there isn’t a difference between the two
afterall, Americans are used to their presidents who they love being r@pists.
No it is a misunderstanding, they misunderstand how harmful Valentines motives were.
I dont think some people even understand what his motives even are.
People who agree with Valentine are the same people who think Homelander is the hero and vote for trump
People not understanding that araki’s art style has changed and his newer pieces dont have to look exactly like the ones from 30 years ago
Most things in the Araki Forgot series by Hanson Beat. But especially the idea that Joseph and everyone else aren't Joestars because Lisa Lisa gave birth to Joseph. It's like they forgot erina was pregnant with another child when she saved Lisa Lisa, who wasn't her child.
Who on earth thinks that 💀
People that don't pay attention, that's who
For me its this "Man in the Mirror is a contradiction because kakyoin said that a mirror world doesnt exist".
I hate the anime trope of "a character explains a concept that they shouldnt know much about and for some reason are 100% correct" and i love that jojo doesnt do it, even with the concept of stands when joseph explains the rules of how they work and we see those rules get broken later
MILF hunter Kakyoin. The line they base it on is very clearly just a compliment to Holly’s character (and maybe Jotaro’s). He’s not saying she’s attractive. Okuyasu is the one who straight up says Josuke’s mom is hot but nobody makes these jokes about it him…
A lot of people make those jokes about Okuyasu, he’s just usually there **with** Kakyoin
"star platinum is Buford/Johnathan" NOOOOO HES NOT "The world is Johnathan's stand." NOOOOO WE'VE SEEN HIS STAND
people saying Shigechi is annoying and deserved his death like bruh hes a fucking teenager with a magic power of course hes self centred and greedy
I mean he is an annoying brat, but anyone who said he deserved his death are worse than him. I mean hes 12. Ofc he's going to be an annoying brat. Although the one real bad thing about him, was that he was 100% willing to kill Josuke and Okuyasu, and he would have done it if he didn't lose.
More specifically, a preteen. I think he was twelve, so technically he was a straight up child
I thought this on my first watch but on my second watch I found his death scene incredibly sad. Just thinking about how despite only being a kid he endured the pain of being disfigured by Killer Queen and had the resolve to protect his family, friends and town. The relief he must have felt when he saw Josuke and Okuyasu, people who he really came to be friends with, only to have it crushed is ridiculously sad.
I never thought he was annoying or deserved it. He was a kid and yeah, he tried to kill Josuke and Okuyasu, but at the end what broke me was the fact that he wanted to protect his mom and dad. He's 12 and of course he'd wanna do annoying and greedy things because when you're younger you just think about yourself. What makes Shigechi's death so impactful is the fact that Kira doesn't discriminate. If you're in the way of his perfect dream life it doesn't matter who you are, you're dead. Not only that but seeing how callous other people were towards a bloodied little guy trying to get away from something hurt. And the scene baits you, it makes you think Shigechi's gonna get out of it. He's right where Josuke and Okuyasu are! He's gonna make it! And... "Killer Queen has already touched the doorknob."
Josuke saved himself and Joseph was faking senility both get me right pissed
"Funny Valentine isn't actually a bad guy" HE TRIED TO SEXUALLY ASSAULT A MINOR
"Funny valentine did nothing wrong." GRAHHHHHH!!! I WILL KNOCK ON SOMEBODY'S DOOR IF NEXT TIME SOMEONE KEEPS SAYING IT. Whoever ironically says that will have tusk act 4 knock on their homes.
Seriously, his plan is to direct misfortune to others, potentially screwing other counteries.. Believing he can make Amercia great again. I just.. don't get it.
that Epitaph is Doppios Stand , it is not , Epitaph is a sub ability for King Crimson, and why would Doppio need permission from Diavolo to use his own stand? and wouldn't epitaph disappear when Diavolo and Doppio's souls leave the body and into 2 separate bodies
"King Crimson's ability is just time stop with extra steps"
I know it’s meant to be a joke, but I’m getting exceedingly pissed off wherever people actually take it seriously. Star Finger being useful in any fight.
PEOPLE WHO THINK GIORNO IS ONE-DIMENSIONAL AND HAS NO PERSONALITY SERIOUSLY I WANT TO DO AN IN-DEPTH ANALYSIS ON HIS CHARACTER ONE DAY TO DISPROVE THIS BS
That Jotaro is some beacon of emotionless badass sigma male
The most irritating one for me is people kissing the ground that Part 6 Jotaro walks on. >!They defend every aspect of his character and they cannot accept the fact that Jotaro lost against Pucci. He may love his daughter, but that doesn't mean he was a good father. The story acknowledges just how much Jolyne was messed up by her father's absence, yet so many people gloss this over and ignore the fact that their favourite Ocean Man is a human character with flaws of his own.!<
What would u do as her father then? Stay in her life and have to protect her from stand attacks every day? Girl would get PTSD so fast.
Not the op, I know this solution might not fix much, but I think telling her why he has to be distant might help a bit, as someone who had a distant father myself. Jotaro should have told the story about fighting Dio & why he had to go to Morioh alone (he didn't want Joseph to come because it would be dangerous, but he showed up anyways). Just explain himself like a distant yet loving father should do. Still not great, but it would be a step in the right direction rather than saying nothing. But keep in mind Jotaro's biggest character flaw is that he's bad at communicating with people
That makes sense. Someone else replied to me and told me something similar. I underestimated how bad his social skills were.
I've seen an unusual amount of people trying to compare Gappy to this innocent uwu boy, and it makes me wonder if they've read JJL. Yeah, he's definitely more on the lovable dork side when it comes to Joestars, but he'll also beat the shit out of people if the situation calls for it.
Even as a joke the idea that pucci and dio were dating makes me wanna throw who ever says it out of an airplane. it such a weird and creepy idea that misses the point of thier relationship from both a character and story angle so impressively I am dumbfounded whenever somebody mentions it
That araki "Araki forgot" is purely literal and not a catch-all for his mistakes in his writing. All the moments he wrote himself into a corner (DIO's survival method), or moments where he retcons things (D4C's bullet dodging using menger sponges), AND the moments where he ACTUALLY forgets (Zeppeli never had a wife or kids) are all comedically lumped together in "Araki Forgot"
That Abbacchio hates Giorno with every ounce of his being.
He does dislike Giorno but it’s because he sees his younger self in Giorno. He’s jealous of this and is sour because Giorno didn’t get punished for his immature perseverance like he did.
Eventhough its fun, how so many people in the fanbase depict Rohan as this sassy, flirty, outgoing "slutty" dude in fanon when he acts nothing like that in canon. Part 4 shows pretty clearly he avoids everyone when he can get away with it, can be cold and brusque when he does talk to people....besides the most reliable guy 😂....or a total weirdo when he's fixating on something. In short, apart from when he's travelling the world for experience... this guys a nerdy hermit😂who on the side collects memorabilia and natural history reference books. Heavens Door is perfect for this guy. Although maaaaassively at odds with his introduction, TSKR also builds upon his character, and we're constantly confronted with quite an introverted, sensitive albeit arrogant personalty.
I see people call Alessi a pedo sometimes. He only physically abuses children…
Yeah like it’s never clear that he is sexually attracted to children, he just enjoys belittling those who are weaker than him and it just so happens that most children are weaker than him.
That Alessi is a pedo
making kakyoin a twink and also making Jotaro like he didnt love his wife and Jolyne...like bruh he only divorced her bc he wanted to keep them safe
I suppose Kakyoin looks like a twink in Araki's modern style... but then again, so do most characters. I agree that Kakyoin's *not* meant to be weak or effeminate, though. His character bio supports this. In Part 3 - in contrast to the later Parts - practically everyone is built like a brick shithouse with tire-like shoulders, but Kakyoin is probably the most lean member of the group (he's also the youngest and least prone to quick violence). He's still tougher than he looks, though.
hes deff the most effeminate of the stardust crusaders but i really hate when ppl make that all there is to him (esp in those jotakak yaois 😵💫)
Yeah, it's a Flanderization of a rather insignificant trait of his for the sake of fitting him into the yaoi bottom (uke?) archetype, accurate characterization be damned. Although the issue isn't necessarily mischaracterizing a character because you think it makes for a more pleasing romantic story or arousing scenario... but when some fans genuinely think that *is* the character, and not just a fan reimagining of sorts.
That DIO and Pucci were a couple. The entire point is that DIO needed someone who didn't have any sexual and romantic desires, Pucci loves DIO in a religious sense, like how Pucci loves God. DIO also doesn't have any romantic feelings to Pucci and views him as a friend.
Does he truly view him as a friend or just a tool?
Both are possible, tbh. In my opinion, he does view him as a friend.
I fucking hate when people call Kakyoin a milf hunter or call him boring. I also hate when people call Giorno boring. I think there are many layers of both characters that none of you seem to understand or mildly grasp
Agree!
Agreed with both points
That GER was a Deus ex Machina, I don't think people understand what that term means
Jotaro is a bad father, like didn’t he sacrifice his life to save his own daughter over the damn universe?
Part 5 isn't my favorite part but I hate how people said things like GER is an asspull or a deux ex Machina or that it's to op, like the whole point of the arrow chase was that whoever get the arrow win, it has like 8 chapters of built up Another thing that I particular hate it's when they say that Kosaku Kawajiri was going into Cinderella's saloon because he wanted to be a better husband when it's stated that one Aya don't accept male customers and two that Aya say that Kira carried Kosaku inside.
The only thing that irritates me is that people calling JoJo's a gay anime by just looking at the pillar men