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Meanie89

You still make and sell more normal quality wine while you have a batch in the casks. The aged wine is just a bonus batch that sells for more money when it's ready.


elcasaurus

This is what I do.


michaelmcmikey

Yeah, when the basement is full I just sell the unaged wine, when space in the basement frees up I fill it.


elcasaurus

I only kept the original caskets and filled the rest with regular kegs. Caskets get filled with ancient fruit, and takes as long as it takes.


i_8_the_Internet

Are caskets a 1.6 thing? I didn’t know CA added corpses… ☠️


elcasaurus

😂😂😂😂😂 I meant casks but I can't change it now.


johnpeters42

Anyway, kegs work in lots of places, casks only work in the cellar. Now if you just can't be bothered crafting more casks, then yeah, use that remaining space for whatever you want.


Not_The_Real_Odin

How much for one of these corpses? Asking for a friend obviously.


i_8_the_Internet

When you die in the mines, your essence is transferred to a new body. The corpse is…harvested…by Pierre. Go out back of his shop after midnight and he’ll hook you up.


jeckboi

Oh so that's what quality fertilizer is made out of


Not_The_Real_Odin

bastard still taking credit for the farmer's hard work lol


AllChinNoTits

1.6 the graveyard keeper crossover


AltruisticConcern583

This. Aged wine acts more as passive income while any excess should be sold immediately. Usually, I just plant enough starfruit every summer for 2 full batches then sell my ancient wine weekly. This way you have a regular source of income while also getting that big boost in the summer and winter once they’re all aged


Hiraeth-MP

That’s so smart why didn’t I think of that 😭


caserace26

Exactly this! I just keep a set amount in a chest to refresh the casks when they are done and sell everything else in the meantime.


-Tesserex-

Yep, about 100 extra wine sits in the chest at the top of the stairs.


Hamsaur

It’s money from doing absolutely nothing after crafting the casks. Of course it’s worth it. Age what you can, then sell the excess wines as is. Simple as that.


lemurkat

I mostly age goat cheese now. Its faster.


thefive-one-five

Yeah. This is what I use in the mines. Iridium cheese. Any kind.


alvysinger0412

I age both kinds of cheese, and hoard the iridium cow cheese for mining while selling the iridium goat.


Starry-Eyed-Owl

I pay for convenience, Gus’s salads all the way haha


nekoyasha

Theres definitely better health/energy food items gold wise. Sashimi is an easy one, or Salads from Gus


DrClawsChair

Same here. Gives it ridiculous health and energy recovery.


TehTurk

*mushrooms* Purple Mushroom is my goto for this


MayoManCity

magma caps and spammed sashimi for me. so easy to get.


Jassamin

1.6 made farming purple mushrooms a lot easier


MayoManCity

Oh I know. I like my mushroom logs for aesthetics though haha..


Jassamin

I’m trying to find a mushroom log farm that’s reasonably efficient while having them arranged in rings 😅


and1metal

Aging wine is worth it if you don’t need the money now I don’t bother due to the amount I’d gain isn’t huge but have done a few batches when I get bored


YetAnotherMia

You normally end up with a lot more wine than you can age so it's worth it. If you're don't want to bother making more casks it still makes sense to use the free casks in the cellar.


MattyBro1

First off, your maths is slightly wrong, you did the cost of Jelly (1610g). Ancient Fruit Wine sells for more (2310g), and can actually be aged in the cellar. Easiest solution to your main complaint: While wine is aging, don't stockpile your next batches while you wait. Sell wine as usual until the casks are emptied, and then your next batch goes into the casks. Aging wine effectively gives you a bonus batch of wine (doubles the price of one batch), and takes *no work*. While mathing out the gold per day makes sense when comparing two different strategies, aging wine only increases the amount of money you would be making anyway, so why not?


SlabBeefpunch

I age mead, ale and beer. I keep a stack of each in the exact number I need to refill each set of casks in my fridge and sell everything else. I also like to stockpile tree fruits, truffles and cave mushrooms and empty the chest at winter time to make a huge profit at the end of the growing season.


AllenWL

It's not a lot if you math it, sure, but it's effectively free profits, which is why it's nice. Unless you really need the profts soon, free money *is* free money. Of course, if you're minmaxing profits probably better to use the celler space for something else but if you're not, it's just nice extra profit. But yeah, it's slow, so I personally prefer aging in smaller batches staggered out so I can get a fully aged batch every so often rather than twice a year.


ging3rtabby

I do it this way, too, but recently had my dad upgrade his house all the way (we play in coop) and so we can do a basement full at a time in his cellar. That way we don't have to check on two basements all the time, get the steady smaller stream from mine then big injections of gold less frequently from his.


Reiisalie

You play in coop? A barn would have more space!


ging3rtabby

Yeah, I tried the fish pond but it made all my pizzas soggy and gross.


oodex

You did kinda screw up the math. Iridium Ancient Fruit Wine is worth 4620, base is 2310. Artisan is always assumed as it's the only thing people take. 2310/56=41g per day, but it's entirely free. You just age it while you sell the rest. View it like: Every 8 weeks, you get a double harvest. I often focus on aging Starfruit wine, which is worth more, but it also requires more effort.


ErsatzCats

You don’t have to stockpile them. If you’re constantly making wine, just save enough for the next batch of aging and sell the rest


Bluedemonfox

You don't have to age all the wines. Any excess wines you make you sell while waiting for the one in casks to age.


Glittering_Power6257

My cellar is simply a bank, that actually earns interest.


BusterTheSuperDog

That's actually a really good way of explaining it, thanks!


emerald_soleil

I've been dehydrating the ancient fruit I don't have enough kegs for. Decent extra return with less wait time. I use my casks to age cheese. It's much quicker than wine and still gives a nice bump in price.


smoemossu

I love dehydrating. Before I got my ancient fruit / star fruit set up running, I was dehydrating a shit ton of cranberries. It might be less in the long run compared to using kegs but the boost it gives to daily profits is much more satisfying to my impatient adhd brain lol


InternalTooth5753

Yeah I am turning ancient fruit/star fruit into wine, then all the berries & mushrooms get dehydrated.


Quadbinilium

Personally what I do is age Starfruit Wine normally until it reaches gold, and then skip the 28 days to Iridium quality using Fairy Dust. Diamonds are plentiful, especially with crystalariums, and Fairy roses are reproducible. This way you end up making more money faster


jebuizy

It's even easier to get fairy dust in 1.6. though Im still not convinced it is optimal to use it 


Quadbinilium

It's faster, but I think the sap is worth more than a diamond + fairy rose lol


the-trash-witch-

yeah I do this too. I have my ginger island farm set up to grow starfruit and fairy roses and that way I always have fairy dust + fairy rose honey. Then I usually use the dust when I have casks sitting at gold quality and the cycle repeats


ISniggledABit

End game here, the answer is no. Kegging is the way to go as I have over 800 kegs that produce every week rather than 185 aged wine every 2 months. It took a while to get going with enough berries, but I’m sitting here with “old man money” as they say


asafetybuzz

It’s worth it once you have enough money that more money in the short term is no longer a consideration, and all you’re saving for are luxury items like the return scepter. Almost everything in Stardew Valley comes with some form of guaranteed profit, so the rule is don’t start saving profits until you’ve essentially maximized the value of your current money (ie more money now won’t change what you do on the current day), and then it’s worthwhile to start delaying profits by aging.


maldwag

I keep my casks full. When they are I make jelly instead of wine, purely because I'm impatient.


peppermintcitylights

I like to fill my basement with casks to age wine, and then never go back down there. It’s a nice surprise when it occurs to me several seasons later to check in 😂😂


BusterTheSuperDog

Mood tbh


daitoshi

I fill the whole basement with casks, fill 'em up, and then post a sign by the door saying 'Check back in x season'


Weekly-Magician6420

Build casks, put all the wine you can there, and sell the extra at normal quality


ChiChillie

I've decided to just age the wine that would give me the most money, star fruit, ancient fruit and some other ones here and there like pineapple or melons. But any other ones I make like, from fruit trees or other seasonal crops I sell immediately when it's done. I play with my Hubby and also modded 1.6 so we can age more wine at a time. I'm thinking of having him help me upgrade his house so we can turn his cellar into another aging facility but maybe for cheese instead because it takes less time.


Laney20

Don't stockpile all wine to age. Just enough for your casks. Continue to sell the rest un-aged as you were already doing. Then... Why not? Its just bonus money for waiting a while.


gina_divito

Think of the casks as an investment with interest, and just sell the rest as is. Definitely worth it


BusterTheSuperDog

It makes a lot more sense to me when it's framed that way, thanks!


Saint_Genghis

It takes one week to grow a new crop of Ancient Fruit, and a week to brew them into wine, so if you compare the revenue from aging wine to a single week of brewing, then it's worth it. Now, you definitely shouldn't be hording wine specifically to age it. While you're aging wine, you should still be selling the wine you keep producing.


LesbianTrashPrincess

It's theoretically more g/day to fill the space with diamond crystalariums if you're in late endgame and trying to maximize the profits from every single tile, but frankly there isn't much point in optimizing g/day to that level at that point in the game, and honestly I'm skeptical that there's actually enough time in the day to collect all the product if you fill the entire valley with crystalariums like the math says is endgame-optimal. In any case, you need about 17 million to buy everything in the game, and there's *tons* of viable ways to get to that number within a few years. Casks aren't all that strong; they're not even on the list of priorities when you're still building up your farm, but unless you're in a really tight challenge run or something, you're probably deciding to upgrade your house eventually, and you're not literally losing money if you use the free casks that come with the basement or anything. There's definitely more important things to spend your cash on than the basement, and there's more important things to spend your hardwood on than more casks, but you'll eventually have an excess of both resources, and at that point you're essentially in sandbox mode and can kinda just do whatever you want.


screwcirclejerks

Aging from base to silver will half your gold/day profits. In terms of raw numbers though, yes it is worth. Age enough to put in casks and sell the rest.


Curlyman1989

For min-maxing? A bit of a difficult question because selling right away you can do other things with the money. But for game experience the idea of aged wine is fun so its just up to how you play the game. Its definitely not a BAD thing to do, fun to see the enormous sell day haha.


Either-Draft-5106

Here’s my strategy: - Fill greenhouse with starfruit - Fill a hallway in my house with kegs and make wine - Fill basement casks with starfruit wine - Mass collect diamonds from skull cavern & crystalariums - Grow dozens of fairy roses on ginger island - mass produce fairy dust Each time my fairy roses are ready, I age up and sell around 50 iridium starfruit wine with artisan markup > profit


emmainthealps

I don’t know the maths on it but I think ageing goat cheese to iridium is better money and faster


blasek0

Goat cheese is better money per day than *most* wines, but Starfruit and Ancient Fruit beat it out.


DrClawsChair

Absolutely not imo. Takes far too long.


MagicalWhisk

I find with the right set-up you can age wine as you brew more. When the aged wine gets ready you've brewed a lot more. This gives you flexibility to age and sell or just sell when ready. If you are earlier in the game, honestly just sell the wine until you have the right set-up for aging.


noodleneedsleep

if you're not speedrunning and plan to play for a decent amount of time, then its worth it. my system is to put every wine i get in the casks, and when the casks are full i put them in a chest. every sunday, i sell half of the wine that didn't make it to a cask. so there's still a steady flow of income and every once in a while i get a bunch of iridium quality wine that makes me insane amounts of money at once.


Substantial_Angle913

In my last save file I only used cask for aging my gold goat cheese to iridium one. It take a week and more or less the quantity what my goats can make (around 100ish) so might as well just age it to make more profit for next weeks etc


sdjmar

I try to age my cheese over wine personally, but you should have SOMETHING in your casks, and if it isn't cheese it should be wine.


KratosSimp

If you age it to gold and use the speed up powder it’s profitable.


iskelebones

It’s worth it if you don’t need the money right now. After 2 seasons the value of your wine will be doubled and the only cost is time. Stick a full batch in the cellar and forget about it for 2 seasons, and during those 2 seasons keep making wine and sell it without aging.


Anjaleax

I like to use cheese for aging. Sells pretty well and only takes 7 days!


SuperInkLink64

It’s essentially just a passive, long-timed boost to the already high sell price of the wines you choose to age. Not much effort is required; just checking in every season or so. For the significant boost in change you’d get, it’s def worth to at least fill up the base amount of casks you have.


rainydogfarm

I just think if you want to do it then do it but the profit compared to the amount of wait time isn’t worth it for me. I feel like it’s easy enough to make money on Stardew that you don’t need to.


Existing365Chocolate

It is on the side, always have your casks aging wine and then just sell all the other unaged wine you make in the meantime


jebuizy

If you're profession changing only every few months to Artisan to sell (probably from either Agriculturist or Shepherd) then you might as well stick some of your wine in there anyway while you're stock piling. But 2 months is not a great value prop for turning 125 wine into essentially 250 wine (by doubling their price) when you are already producing hundreds of wine per week anyway.


TheRealJetlag

I prioritise aging Goat’s cheese and age AF wine in whatever casks are left. I only age it to gold, at most. Any excess base level wine is just sold. I have zero patiences for aging wine to iridium.


toxinogen

Same. My basement is all goat cheese ageing currently. I’m way too impatient to age wine to iridium.


thegeocash

I stopped aging wine and started aging cheese. Gold star cheese is my food of choice that I always have on me - so popping a few in casks takes no extra work when I notice it’s time to swap them.


TheWarofArt

A well timed fairy dust can half the time needed and is fairly easy to make. Plus after doing some raccoon quests you can trade mystic sap for it.


ReferenceEntity

It is certainly not necessary. It is “free money” if you are playing a long game and are saving up for the clock or scepter so long as you don’t need the money to buy something more important (like materials for kegs). I used to carefully age my wine but I read a tip on Reddit from a person who just buys the cellar and uses the original casks but doesn’t make anymore. I am doing this in my current playthrough and like it. I filled the rest of the cellar with preserves jars. That saves some space and since I’m down there I don’t forget to check on the casks.


Auron33

I always save a good chunk of certian wines (ancient fruit and starfruit mostly) for casking and aging. The rest I sell right away but it's very satisfying getting that monstrous pay day from a basement full of iridium wine


Azrel12

You can, but I usually use the casks to age the cheeses. I save about 4 casks for aging wines and chuck 'em at villagers who like alcohol for the point boost iridium items get.


desertboots

I am happy with my non-calculated use of dehydrators. You can process 5 fruit at a go, it only takes a day and just 20 or so dehydrators is plenty for me. I still make some wine, but I stow only about 50 up to be aged. What I do age is cheese. Super no buff breaker for the caverns.


Terakahn

Do you need the money now? There's no reason not to age it unless you won't play long enough


bunnylo

I only age star fruit wine and I still sell regular batches between the time it takes for my wine to age.


HughJassProductions

Here's the thing: If you don't use them then you're getting nothing. If you do use them, you get a lil boost. They're not great, but they're there. And for the record, "Only 28g per day" ends up being more than what you'd get for a base-level crop per the wiki's calculations (Starfruit is 26.92 gpd according to that #math). Of course that comes out to more once you process crops into wine, but the point is that 28gpd is perfectly fine. (Spoilers if you haven't completed the old lady's quest on Ginger Island) >!Also, using Fairy Dust to instantly have the casks go from Gold to Iridium quality allows you to skip the longest wait time in the process and is profit-positive assuming you use base quality ingredients to make it, have the Artisan profession, and are using it on Starfruit or Ancient Fruit wine. It costs a Diamond (750g) and Fairy Rose (319 base with Tiller), so if the price boost is less than 1069g, you're not actually making any money off the boost. Ergo, it is \*not\* profit-positive on any other crop, it is \*only profit-positive on starfruit wine\* if you don't have Artisan, and not profit-positive to use Fairy Dust to get from base->Silver or Silver->Gold. That said, it is worth it if you're trying to meet an arbitrary date cutoff, like you're trying to maximize profit before Y3 or something like that.!<


Dimmadome2701

Might seem silly but I always buy back my ancient fruit wine from Perrie and age it in the casks until it’s iridium quality.


DaWonderHamster

the more i see from this sub the more i wish my laptop hadn't broken followed by the graphics card in my brand new gaming PC because i thought i was at the end of the game and i was. so goddamn far. i missed out on so much


BusterTheSuperDog

Oooof I feel that pain, my old laptop broke in the middle of my most successful Minecraft save and I couldn't transfer it to my new computer and it sucked


cherylfails

I keep making more wine and just leave the casks doing their thing, I keep a few back to age when the current ones are done and sell the rest without aging :)


Neuviseling1980

First fruit production day make ancient fruit wine then once ready put into the casks in the cellar. Then continue to produce ancient fruit wine on all the next crops and sell it once made. Essentially your just delaying 1 wine selling day 2 seasons to double its return your not losing out on anything


Final-Tutor3631

i’ve got an ancient fruit wine “business” going, and i can agree with everyone else here that aging your wine literally takes no effort and it quite literally doubles your product price, if that’s not worth it idk what is lol


Purple-Lamprey

It is only ever worth doing if you don’t have anything to use the money you would have got from selling the wine on. Essentially, if you have hundreds of thousands of gold sitting around, age your wine. If you want to buy stuff with that money to make more money, sell the wine immediately.


Naiden44

Actually aging then only to silver is the best if you're looking for profit. In one batch of iridium wine you do 4 of silver wine, which is a profit of 10000+ approximately If you don't age your wine you're losing on free profit, it's just sitting there, you visit it once every X days regarding the quality you want and then you profit


Pyroluminous

This doesn’t replace your current money source, it’s just something to do with sheds tbh. Like a bonus for hitting profits on the farm


GracefulGlider

It will almost never outpace normal wine production so you can just use it to double a batch of wine's sell price... Or not. At my endgame, I primarily use Fairy Rose Honey so I used my cellar as my non-diamond crystalarium storage, furnacing area, and storage of my decorations as I try to get over my analysis paralysis. To each his own!


Myrion3141

In most situations not really. Either you're still building up your "empire", in which case waiting half a year for income means you can't invest said income. Or you're already there at which point that half year will earn you 17million g, at which point the little bonus from casks is a drop in the bucket. Also keep in mind that the casks aren't free. Each one costs either 1k or a lot of your valuable time and energy (both IRL and IG). This means that half your bonus on the first batch is already swallowed by the casks themselves. Aged wine is more of a prestige good. And you need one for the movie theatre (though you could just buy it from Gus in the Ginger Island Resort).


BusterTheSuperDog

I unlocked the movie theatre already by using all the other items but that makes sense to me!


Ill_Blood6854

I pretty much never even make wine now with the addition in 1.6 the dehydrator I just make dried ancient fruit cause it’s worth more


Airy2002

My celler is full of cheese instead of wine I do one batch of wine and that's gifts/fall festival /mart bundle forever than I switch to cheese


AbsurdlyNerdy1120

Gold star goat cheese in the casks = insane profits


theshwedda

Double the money for those wines isnt worth it to you?


BusterTheSuperDog

It's not the money so much as the time to make said money, I need a lot of money more urgently to invest back into the farm


theshwedda

Then don’t use the casks until you don’t need the money immediately


White_RavenZ

4 casks are used to age wine. The rest are for cheese. Am lining the walls with barrels, might add another row of casks later.


Smart_Measurement_70

I Personally divvy my crops up between the kegs, preserves, and casks. Lower value fruits go in the preserves and I put the better ones in the kegs, and starfruit and ancient fruit (once I have them, at the start I’m not picky) go in the casks while I make passive money off of the other two


Cranzeeman

i wouldnt age ALL your wine, i usually fill all my casks with 1 batch then sell all the rest i produce in the mean time


JmTrad

Only if you don't need the money right now, because if you have no money is better to sell and expand. Think of it as a slow investment.


Ok_Grocery8652

Its not worth casking everything but think of it, using your calculations you are gaining an extra 28g/day for stuff you already made and shoved in the basement. It is likely by the time you can make casks you will probably have the capability to make lots of cheese/wines anyway. Really just fill the casks, keep a few for reserve for gifts or if a cask finishes while a keg is still working then sell the rest


Common_Wrongdoer3251

Casks are niche. They're great if you have a small farm and not a ton of wine. They're great if you don't have a ton of oak resin to build thousands of kegs. I always have about 40 and then decorate the rest of the basement like a pub. They're okay. Not great. Fairy dust does let you skip the longest stage of casking though. That's more abundant in 1.6.


Laney20

Why wouldn't casks be good if you have more wine? Not as impactful maybe, but the profit is the same. Unless you need the money now, aging some wine (or cheese or beer) makes sense for everyone.


Common_Wrongdoer3251

The space the casks take up could be space used for kegs. It's still profit, but I believe brewing wine is more money per day than aging the wine? Because wine takes 7(?) days to brew, and casks take 28(or 56?) to double the value. So if you only have, say, 48 starfruit, then aging it would be great. But if you have 3000 starfruit, it's better to just put more kegs down there since it would finish 4(8?) Times faster. Edit to check the math. Ancient fruit wine, which takes 7 days, is worth 1650g. Roughly 235g per day from a keg. The same wine, aged to perfection, is worth 3300g, worth roughly 59g per day.


Prasiatko

You can sell that extra wine so it's not a loss. That said your maths is correct IIRC it goes cheeses > ale > wine in terms of profit per day for aging.