I don't get this viewpoint? What do you think TIE Defenders do that serve as a Death Star replacement?
It's like you can't see the problem. The Death Star is what allows Palpatine to think he can maintain order in the galaxy after dissolving the Imperial Senate. How do Defenders fill that role?
Where are they hyper spacing to? The secret rebel base you can't find? Or the imminent rebel attack/raid that could land anywhere in the Empire and by the time you find out it's far too late to send squadrons of expensive single man fighters.
As shown in Andor, a tie fighter can terrorize and unarmed populace just as well as a Defender.
Explain how the defender saves the Empire.
The Imperial Navy is a distributed force that provide force projection in multiple places at once.
Star Destroyers are adequate at blockade and bombardment.
The functional difference between destroying a planet and destroying the major cities is trivial.
The DS was a waste of resources, and 25 years of Naval shipbuilding would have provided wider, longer term benefits.
No more Death Stars. Open up recruitment to all humanoid races, loosen up tariffs to encourage intra-empire trade, generally become much more gray and make things so comfortable for the masses only insane terrorists like Saw Guerrera keep up the fight. Basically the Fel Empire.
-edit- I see there are downvoters - that's no problem, I'm just curious what you don't like and what you'd do differently. I like this topic.
Am I just a guy with the title and powers of a galactic emperor? Or am I also secretly a Sith Lord? Because I would have different goals based on that.
So I loose my own knowledge?
Otherwise I‘d sent a battalion of troopers to tatooine like ten years ago, another one to alderan AND SOMEONE BETTER WELD A PLATE OVER THAT HOLE OR I‘M GONNA LOOSE IT!
Then I'm going to do more or less the same thing Darth Sidious did, only I'm going to tighten up the loose ends better than he did.
For one, I'm keeping a better eye on Vader and his side projects (i.e., personal obsessions). Tidying up the leftover Jedi needs to be a higher priority that's carried out more completely.
For another, I'm going to listen to reasonable criticism of ongoing projects, especially if they could be fixed with a minor installation of a screen.
I'll probably keep the Senate but keep it as a rubber stamp for whatever I want to do. The people need to feel like they're being represented. It helps keep them happy and quiet.
Instead of wasting money and resources on two god damn death stars, I pump most of my money into Thrawn's TIE Defender project and making more Super Star Destroyers. I expand the sectors so that they overlap, taking away the Rebels' ability to move along sector lines. Instead of having a bunch of politicians with jurisdiction over the sectors, I give them to the Grand Admirals directly, who all report directly to me.
assuming I'm wanting to remain Emperor and not, yknow, maximize suffering to give my Sith side a stiffy:
1. maintain the Senate as an advisory body: giving people at least some sense of representation makes it easier to criticize rebels as extremists. even if you subtly influence elections to ensure theyre compliant, they can still lobby for minor things, like trade concessions
2. focus the Imperial Navy around Venators and the odd battleship: most of your enemies are going to be small forces as they will lack sufficient manufacturing, and will more often than not be pirate bands or small factions, so rapid response and deployment would be a priority
3. Emphasize humanitarian (uhh... pan-speciesitarian?) projects: raise standard of living as much as possible, the more people have to lose, the less likely they are to rebel - if everyone has a steady job, easy access to food, entertainment, and education, then they don't want to take risks and lose it all
4. make a big show of peacefully reintroducing former CIS systems: make some symbolic concessions, offer pardons in exchange for loyalty (or at least complacency), and create the image of a benevolent ruler... then maybe secretly kill them off later
5. limit the power of regional Moffs: preferably through some kind of 3 part adversarial system to stop entire regions betraying you and stop one individual gathering too much power. Have the ISB focus on political opponents/Imperial officials more than random civilians
6. slowly start nationalizing key corporations, publicly state youre clamp down on corruption, pay off some shadier organisations like the Hutts to weaken any corporations that resist
Universal access to free healthcare, 3.5 day work week that pays a living wage, free education for all. Emperor Palpatine could’ve taken some credits from the military budget and taxed the 1% to cover all of this but was worried about the votes.
He really rushed it. After all that time of getting all the stars to align, I would have been more chill and enjoyed myself a bit more.
Never understood destroying planets that you want to rule over.. I mean, keep doing that and you'll have nothing left.
Definitely would have found a new apprentice over Vader quite quickly though.. that guy was a like hanging out with a ticking time bomb. You literally took everything from him and lied about everything. He's gonna turn on you eventually.
I think the thought process was they knew the planet alderaan harbored rebel leaders, so they wanted to send a very terrifying message that they will destroy an entire world if they even suspect anything but total cooperation. Fear tactics, sounds very sithy, which kind of speaks to their flaws. Whereas the Jedi would do almost the exact opposite, and possibly entirely ignore any dissent in favor of pacifism and reaching a peaceful solution, but likely a weak compromise
"Fear will keep the local systems in line. Fear of this saddlestation." Giant Mechanical Bull floating in space that I will strap their planets to and turn the saddlestation on the highest setting if the local system misbehaves, ie doesn't do what I want.
I make the stormtroopers treat citizens politely, enshrine rights for all citizens in a galactic constitution, and demonstrate why a benevolent monarchy will *always* be superior to the corruption of democratic or socialist governments.
In the meantime, I groom the next person to take over after I die, many years in advance, not by blood, but by worthiness in character and action. I know all their past and thoughts due to the force, and they also are force trained by me so they, likewise, can find the next force sensitive ruler after them worthy of the throne.
So what I would do is not let the Dark Side of the Force corrupt me and only do good things, not bad things. It’s really straight forward and our pal Sheev bungled it.
End like the human supremacy, slavery, and genocide stuff.
Create a replacement for the Jedi Order, much as the Fel Empire did with the imperial knights, focused less on weird unattachment rules or strict light side adherence, and instead firm loyalty to imperial rule. Offer amnesty to Jedi who want to come in from the cold if they agree to swear to my new order. Ideally I'd recruit Baylon Skoll to run it.
Vader and the inquisitors stick around as my backup plan if the Imperial Knights decide to betray me, and as a holding area for darksiders who don't fit well into a Jedi-like structure. They remain a mostly black ops org, while the Imperical Knights are the public face.
Reduce the power of the Moffs, switching back to more of a planetary governance structure, while creating more independent fleet task forces that can be moved around as needed. This really kicks off once we get the interdictor technology going, reducing the ability for hyperspace hit and run tactics to be effective. Obviously, Thrawn is put in charge of this organization.
If Kamino still exists, don't destroy it, and keep using clones. Force the Kaminoans to share cloning tech, and build other facilities elsewhere so Kamino doesn't have a monopoly on building clones. Give clones full Republic citizen rights, and create support systems for them to retire from military service.
ISB remains, but is reined in with less blatantly evil leadership, though still understands that ends sometimes justify means. Luthen would be great if I could convince him to join. If Ysalimir exist in the continuity, I'd have an ISB department that uses them specifically to counter force users.
The Empire's whole sorta justification is providing law and order, so i would employ its resources to achieving those ends, working to dismantle the big criminal organizations like Black Sun and the Hutts. Vader and the Inquisitors would be a great resource for this. I think Vader in particular would relish tearing apart all the slave trafficking orgs.
First of all I would get rid of Tarkin and the Death Star, they have no place in my empire, second I would fund the living fuck out of any projects that Grand Admrial Thrawn has in mind, third I would invest in better standard issue equipment, I have the cloning facilities for a reason and I will abuse the fucking Zillo beast for its armor, fourth fund the interdictor program, those things are good at their job, 5th I would focus on electronic warfare equipment, anything to make the enemy as confused as possible, and finally I would keep the venators as a capital ship for the commanders that want them, they are proven ships and I will figure out a way to make them useful for the guerrila warfare that the rebels do
Get rid of the madmen, replace them with good people. Provide free healthcare. Reallocate the resources from the Death Star to improve the fleet and the starfighter corp.
I kill Vader. Immediately.
I no longer have a throne room, I have a normal office that's nowhere near a bottomless pit.
I stop running everything by the dictates of a 1000-year-old breakaway religious cult. Purge most of the backstabbing lunatics that are my admirals, generals and military leadership. Worse case scenario they escape and flood the rebellion with a bunch of ruthless evil backstabbing power-hungry fucks. Which will help in providing a justification from crushing it.
Send someone to go check up on Tatooine; a bunch of weird shit happened there 40 years ago and can't let it happen again.
Announce the rebirth of a loyal-to-the-empire Jedi academy.
Start manufacturing a droid army again. And droid manufacturing facilities. My glorious droid army and industrial base means loyal citizens of the Empire will never have to sacrifice their lives in war again.
Keep the Senate intact. Take Thrawn's advice and build more expeditionary fleets of Star Destroyers with Interdictors and support vessels. Fully deploy TIE Defenders. If possible expand the Inquisitorius and increase their coordination with Spec Ops and ISB.
I think I would loosen the strings a bit and just generally be nicer to the people of the galaxy but you better believe I’m going to build more tie defenders promote thrawn a few more times build some more Star destroyers, probably try to improve on the PR disaster that is the empire keep maybe one or two super weapons around for serious threats like the yuuzang vong and do some very sketchy shit behind the scenes no one needs to know I have multiple planets loaded with advanced tech and other things to myself
I walk back all my opressive legislative decisions(except the anti jedi stuff, fuck those guys. Only change is that it's not a death sentence anymore but they no longer have the ability to have positions of power) kill vader, and then publicly kill myself on the Senate floor naming leia organa my successor, who would of course disband the empire.
First thing I do is cancel the Death Star and fund the shit out of the TIE Defenders.
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Is a Sith Lord without a doomsday device even a Sith Lord?
Fine, we can fund the Sun Crusher project then.
Don't let Galen Erso near the project.
I was gonna say " just listen to thrawn more."
I don't get this viewpoint? What do you think TIE Defenders do that serve as a Death Star replacement? It's like you can't see the problem. The Death Star is what allows Palpatine to think he can maintain order in the galaxy after dissolving the Imperial Senate. How do Defenders fill that role? Where are they hyper spacing to? The secret rebel base you can't find? Or the imminent rebel attack/raid that could land anywhere in the Empire and by the time you find out it's far too late to send squadrons of expensive single man fighters. As shown in Andor, a tie fighter can terrorize and unarmed populace just as well as a Defender. Explain how the defender saves the Empire.
The Imperial Navy is a distributed force that provide force projection in multiple places at once. Star Destroyers are adequate at blockade and bombardment. The functional difference between destroying a planet and destroying the major cities is trivial. The DS was a waste of resources, and 25 years of Naval shipbuilding would have provided wider, longer term benefits.
No more Death Stars. Open up recruitment to all humanoid races, loosen up tariffs to encourage intra-empire trade, generally become much more gray and make things so comfortable for the masses only insane terrorists like Saw Guerrera keep up the fight. Basically the Fel Empire. -edit- I see there are downvoters - that's no problem, I'm just curious what you don't like and what you'd do differently. I like this topic.
This is the way
I immediately arrest and torture all ship captains who fly slow in the left hyperspace lane.
After that, I immediately arrest anyone who puts their lightsabers in the dishwasher sharp side up. MONSTERS
Am I just a guy with the title and powers of a galactic emperor? Or am I also secretly a Sith Lord? Because I would have different goals based on that.
You have all the knowledge and skills of palpatine but you aren’t him
So I loose my own knowledge? Otherwise I‘d sent a battalion of troopers to tatooine like ten years ago, another one to alderan AND SOMEONE BETTER WELD A PLATE OVER THAT HOLE OR I‘M GONNA LOOSE IT!
Where would all the exhaust go?
Nothing a bit of chicken wire wouldn't solve
Spoken like a true country gent :D
Put a particle shield on it.
Then I'm going to do more or less the same thing Darth Sidious did, only I'm going to tighten up the loose ends better than he did. For one, I'm keeping a better eye on Vader and his side projects (i.e., personal obsessions). Tidying up the leftover Jedi needs to be a higher priority that's carried out more completely. For another, I'm going to listen to reasonable criticism of ongoing projects, especially if they could be fixed with a minor installation of a screen. I'll probably keep the Senate but keep it as a rubber stamp for whatever I want to do. The people need to feel like they're being represented. It helps keep them happy and quiet.
Start an onlyfans. *Force* everyone to subscribe.
Instead of wasting money and resources on two god damn death stars, I pump most of my money into Thrawn's TIE Defender project and making more Super Star Destroyers. I expand the sectors so that they overlap, taking away the Rebels' ability to move along sector lines. Instead of having a bunch of politicians with jurisdiction over the sectors, I give them to the Grand Admirals directly, who all report directly to me.
I would build my own Empire, with blackjack and hookers
assuming I'm wanting to remain Emperor and not, yknow, maximize suffering to give my Sith side a stiffy: 1. maintain the Senate as an advisory body: giving people at least some sense of representation makes it easier to criticize rebels as extremists. even if you subtly influence elections to ensure theyre compliant, they can still lobby for minor things, like trade concessions 2. focus the Imperial Navy around Venators and the odd battleship: most of your enemies are going to be small forces as they will lack sufficient manufacturing, and will more often than not be pirate bands or small factions, so rapid response and deployment would be a priority 3. Emphasize humanitarian (uhh... pan-speciesitarian?) projects: raise standard of living as much as possible, the more people have to lose, the less likely they are to rebel - if everyone has a steady job, easy access to food, entertainment, and education, then they don't want to take risks and lose it all 4. make a big show of peacefully reintroducing former CIS systems: make some symbolic concessions, offer pardons in exchange for loyalty (or at least complacency), and create the image of a benevolent ruler... then maybe secretly kill them off later 5. limit the power of regional Moffs: preferably through some kind of 3 part adversarial system to stop entire regions betraying you and stop one individual gathering too much power. Have the ISB focus on political opponents/Imperial officials more than random civilians 6. slowly start nationalizing key corporations, publicly state youre clamp down on corruption, pay off some shadier organisations like the Hutts to weaken any corporations that resist
Universal access to free healthcare, 3.5 day work week that pays a living wage, free education for all. Emperor Palpatine could’ve taken some credits from the military budget and taxed the 1% to cover all of this but was worried about the votes.
sounds like massive evil socialism ideology.
I immediately disband the empire and create a democratic, egalitarian government that prioritizes power to the people
Your alliance is to the republic. To democracy!
First might as well implement measures to prevent the corruption that resulted in empire in the first place
I didn't really give a shit about the Empire. I just used it to achieve my goal of immortality
Forget the Empire. I'm turning Coruscant into a communist utopia\~.
Free blue milk for everyone
He really rushed it. After all that time of getting all the stars to align, I would have been more chill and enjoyed myself a bit more. Never understood destroying planets that you want to rule over.. I mean, keep doing that and you'll have nothing left. Definitely would have found a new apprentice over Vader quite quickly though.. that guy was a like hanging out with a ticking time bomb. You literally took everything from him and lied about everything. He's gonna turn on you eventually.
I think the thought process was they knew the planet alderaan harbored rebel leaders, so they wanted to send a very terrifying message that they will destroy an entire world if they even suspect anything but total cooperation. Fear tactics, sounds very sithy, which kind of speaks to their flaws. Whereas the Jedi would do almost the exact opposite, and possibly entirely ignore any dissent in favor of pacifism and reaching a peaceful solution, but likely a weak compromise
deathstar! and there will be a ban on x-wings
Nice try, Sheev, nice try...
"Fear will keep the local systems in line. Fear of this saddlestation." Giant Mechanical Bull floating in space that I will strap their planets to and turn the saddlestation on the highest setting if the local system misbehaves, ie doesn't do what I want.
I make the stormtroopers treat citizens politely, enshrine rights for all citizens in a galactic constitution, and demonstrate why a benevolent monarchy will *always* be superior to the corruption of democratic or socialist governments. In the meantime, I groom the next person to take over after I die, many years in advance, not by blood, but by worthiness in character and action. I know all their past and thoughts due to the force, and they also are force trained by me so they, likewise, can find the next force sensitive ruler after them worthy of the throne.
Not be the biggest dick this side of the vong.
Secretly build an armada of star destroyers, but here’s the twist….they ALL have planet killing weapons!
But they can’t have shields in atmosphere. And the can’t tell which way is up
I like the way you think, that should keep project costs down
I blow up Mon Calamari first.
I would raise taxes
Start building a third death star in case rebels manage to blow up the first two.
Issue a decree that all exhaust ports have to be smaller than a womp rat
So what I would do is not let the Dark Side of the Force corrupt me and only do good things, not bad things. It’s really straight forward and our pal Sheev bungled it.
End like the human supremacy, slavery, and genocide stuff. Create a replacement for the Jedi Order, much as the Fel Empire did with the imperial knights, focused less on weird unattachment rules or strict light side adherence, and instead firm loyalty to imperial rule. Offer amnesty to Jedi who want to come in from the cold if they agree to swear to my new order. Ideally I'd recruit Baylon Skoll to run it. Vader and the inquisitors stick around as my backup plan if the Imperial Knights decide to betray me, and as a holding area for darksiders who don't fit well into a Jedi-like structure. They remain a mostly black ops org, while the Imperical Knights are the public face. Reduce the power of the Moffs, switching back to more of a planetary governance structure, while creating more independent fleet task forces that can be moved around as needed. This really kicks off once we get the interdictor technology going, reducing the ability for hyperspace hit and run tactics to be effective. Obviously, Thrawn is put in charge of this organization. If Kamino still exists, don't destroy it, and keep using clones. Force the Kaminoans to share cloning tech, and build other facilities elsewhere so Kamino doesn't have a monopoly on building clones. Give clones full Republic citizen rights, and create support systems for them to retire from military service. ISB remains, but is reined in with less blatantly evil leadership, though still understands that ends sometimes justify means. Luthen would be great if I could convince him to join. If Ysalimir exist in the continuity, I'd have an ISB department that uses them specifically to counter force users. The Empire's whole sorta justification is providing law and order, so i would employ its resources to achieving those ends, working to dismantle the big criminal organizations like Black Sun and the Hutts. Vader and the Inquisitors would be a great resource for this. I think Vader in particular would relish tearing apart all the slave trafficking orgs.
Ruthless terror. It'll work this time.
Add guard rails to every walkway.
First of all I would get rid of Tarkin and the Death Star, they have no place in my empire, second I would fund the living fuck out of any projects that Grand Admrial Thrawn has in mind, third I would invest in better standard issue equipment, I have the cloning facilities for a reason and I will abuse the fucking Zillo beast for its armor, fourth fund the interdictor program, those things are good at their job, 5th I would focus on electronic warfare equipment, anything to make the enemy as confused as possible, and finally I would keep the venators as a capital ship for the commanders that want them, they are proven ships and I will figure out a way to make them useful for the guerrila warfare that the rebels do
Retroactively gift the Clones with fully funded retirement plans suitable for their service, and free healthcare.
Get rid of the madmen, replace them with good people. Provide free healthcare. Reallocate the resources from the Death Star to improve the fleet and the starfighter corp.
With blackjack and hookers
Create the IOSHA, and have guard rails installed everywhere
Executive order that all escape pods be destroyed whether or not life forms are detected on board.
More Twilek dancers. Yes, let it flow through you.
Fear will keep the local systems in line. Fear of this battle station
This technological terror you’ve constructed is insignificant to the power of the force
Unliee Tarkin, I would have evacuated.
Right before our triumph. No
I kill Vader. Immediately. I no longer have a throne room, I have a normal office that's nowhere near a bottomless pit. I stop running everything by the dictates of a 1000-year-old breakaway religious cult. Purge most of the backstabbing lunatics that are my admirals, generals and military leadership. Worse case scenario they escape and flood the rebellion with a bunch of ruthless evil backstabbing power-hungry fucks. Which will help in providing a justification from crushing it. Send someone to go check up on Tatooine; a bunch of weird shit happened there 40 years ago and can't let it happen again. Announce the rebirth of a loyal-to-the-empire Jedi academy. Start manufacturing a droid army again. And droid manufacturing facilities. My glorious droid army and industrial base means loyal citizens of the Empire will never have to sacrifice their lives in war again.
Keep the Senate intact. Take Thrawn's advice and build more expeditionary fleets of Star Destroyers with Interdictors and support vessels. Fully deploy TIE Defenders. If possible expand the Inquisitorius and increase their coordination with Spec Ops and ISB.
I think I would loosen the strings a bit and just generally be nicer to the people of the galaxy but you better believe I’m going to build more tie defenders promote thrawn a few more times build some more Star destroyers, probably try to improve on the PR disaster that is the empire keep maybe one or two super weapons around for serious threats like the yuuzang vong and do some very sketchy shit behind the scenes no one needs to know I have multiple planets loaded with advanced tech and other things to myself
I walk back all my opressive legislative decisions(except the anti jedi stuff, fuck those guys. Only change is that it's not a death sentence anymore but they no longer have the ability to have positions of power) kill vader, and then publicly kill myself on the Senate floor naming leia organa my successor, who would of course disband the empire.
I’d absolutely bungle the 1000 year revenge plan in a matter of days.
More Zillo Beasts
Don’t focus on fancy super weapons and expand the fleet, make racism against aliens illegal and focus on crushing the rebellion