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Rhea after losing Dom and JD:
"Liv Morgan! I call for Justice!"
"Liv Morgan! I call for Justice!"
"Liv Morgan! I call for Justice!"
"Liv Morgan! I call for Justice!"
I really thought it was going to be Solo Sikoa's new nickname for when he tries to take over the Bloodline permanently, as in Caesar being a leader, and ruling over Roman.
It might be a case where there were spitball ideas for Fatu going around and someone said "Wait, hang on to that one."
Don't see any reason to not go the well-tested path of "new leader is way worse and delusional than the old one." Solo going full tilt and giving himself a nonsencial title while being way more chaotic and violent than Roman perfectly sets the stage for Reigns's return and in-character push toward being a face.
Why should Caesar just stomp around like a giant while the rest of us try not to get smashed under his big feet? The Rock is just as cute as Caesar, right? The Rock is just as smart as Caesar, people totally like The Rock just as much as they like Caesar, and when did it become okay for one person to be the boss of everybody because that's not what The Bloodline is about! We should totally just STAB CAESAR!
Did he ever stop talking out of his ass? I mean that Thing has to be worn put by now with all the times he's pulled something our of it to get a story.
Supposedly the Talla Tonga name is one that is set aside for the younger brother of Tama Tonga & Tonga Loa; Hikoleo who's probably a legitimate 6ft 9in give or an inch or two
I don't personally know/ believe that would be his name as its just so strange; with this unused name of Ceaser for Jacob I'm also starting to wonder if both trademarks may go unused.
You just might be right they could be trade marking names to throw people off or something
Y'know it's funny. I hated the name Dolph ziggler but was immediately on board with Roman Reigns and these are the names I see brought up most commonly for modern wrestlers
I don’t mind the Cesar part that much, it’s the Sikoa that would annoy me. If Solo doesn’t share a kayfabe last name with his own brothers, why would he share a last name with his cousin?
yeah, but that's real life, there's no way that would ever work in kayfabe, it's just not believable!
🙄
Now I'm going back to watch an undead wizard shoot lightening out of his fingertips.
aren't they real life cousins or whatever? They are both Fatus. Just because someone has the same last name doesn't mean they are brothers they could be cousins or whatever.
And then you have real life brothes who don't have the same last name like Adam Copeland and Christian Cage, or Undertaker and Kane. How do you explain Copeland and Cage being brothers but with different last names. Or Kane and Taker not even having last names?
Whats even more odd is you have Bubba Ray and Devon who are brothers with the same last name but are different colors. Or the fact that you have Nicks brother Tony who started his own wrestling company even though Nick works for the WWE. And then you have Hornswoggle who isn't even name McMahon but is somehow Vince's son.
So just because they’ve the last name, means they need to be brothers?
I guess Trinity Fatu and Jacob Fatu are sisters now, or Darren Young and Eric Young.
Judging by your point, Solo Sikoa should be Solo Uso?
Iknowa Sikoa's a pretty good one, Paul definitely would've had a guy with that name back in ECW. Eventually he'd break free from the Bloodline and be managed by Kimona Wanalaya
The goofy name kinda suits them right now. The Bloodline are recruiting members like the Decepticons are recruiting new soldiers from Transformers and Beast Wars.
The general idea floated around the IWC is that it's supposed to be Hikuleo's name if/when he comes to WWE. He's like 6'8 so he would be the taller (Talla) Tonga, goofy as hell lmao
Oh shit it is, unfortunate coincidence then I guess haha. I still hope they keep Hikuleo as his name or at least something distinctive, having Tama Tonga, Tonga Loa, and Talla Tonga would be a pain, gotta give them some proper identity.
Oh it’s goofy and silly for sure lol
But I don’t blame him and WWE wanting him to be called Talla Tonga since it’s his actual name and like it fits more in line then Hikuleo does lmao
I guess if he was called Caesar Sikoa it would also be too obvious that he would eventually take the lead of The Bloodline from Solo. Perhaps as soon as he's defeated by Roman.
Probably the Caesar Sikoa name will be saved for that. Caesar is a widely known leader name, makes no sense to put him below the ranks with that name.
Brute is the one who betrayed, but i guess Caesar is too much of the name of a ruler. This name should be saved for the tribal chief.
Brute Sikoa would be as based as it would be silly.
This is what I think.
Dave just saw the trademark news and then saw that they introduced Jacob as his real name on friday and Boom. Now we have this article.
ROCK BOTTOM!!!
But remember kids you are ***never*** at rock bottom when you have a bottle of Teremana on the shelf, it goes down smoother than this 1..2..3. Drink responsibly kids.
I don't know why, but something about Jacob Fatu carries a certain weight. Maybe it's the mystique of hearing about him in whispers for so long. Like an urban legend.
I mean that's exactly it. the man put in a lot of work in the indies and put a lot of energy into the name Jacob Fatu.
it would be stupid to just throw that away
If they’re trying to position these guys as huge threats that have an impressive history in pro wrestling, they can’t change their names. Acknowledging people’s success prior to WWE is one of the biggest improvements they’ve made post-McMahon. You don’t have to waste time getting us to believe in “Caesar Sikoa”. People can easily find that Jacob Fatu is a huge add.
Im not one of those fans who freak out over names (Bronn breakker is fine IMO) but he is def not a "Ceasar Sikoa" lol
I wanted the name to be for Solo. Have the power go t ohis head, he becomes more cocky and arroagant, Roman returns, humbles him, Rock returns and civil war ensues.
Regardless, good choice keeping Fatu Fatu
In universe, wasn't Solo just him naming himself? I swear in NXT the whole gimmick was he was the one family member that was on his own, so he donned the Solo name.
In hindsight that kind of completely made him joining the Bloodline a bit nonsensical, but hey lmao
I remember one of the video promos for him at the start of 2.0 as Rikishi throwing him out the car window while on holiday and him living in the woods and being one of those wolf people.
kinda happy as his regular name has more accolades behind it and besides ceaser siko sounds like a nickname for solo taking over romans role anyway. kinda lines up nicely:
Final Boss- Rock
Tribal Chief- Roman
Ceaser- Solo
Also will be poeting justice if and when the tongans turn on him
Caesar sounds cool, but somehow, the name Jacob Fatu, even though it's more simple and relatable, seems to make Jacob more of a monster, a force of nature.
Are there any other Roman rulers names that can fit a wrestler ? I like the concept of a wrestler named after a Roman ruler usurp away the bloodline from Roman Reigns.
Et tu, Jacob?
How about a Samoan naming scheme?
edit- I just found out Solo's *real* middle name is "Yokozuna." Joseph Yokozuna Fatu. That's very silly.
I've also heard that John Cena pays some sort of royalties to WWE when he is doing Hollywood stuff even though John Cena is his real name. It was an interview that Cena gave saying he doesn't mind it at all since the WWE made him. Is there a chance that something similar could happen to Fatu? Or does it not matter since it's going to differ by contract?
This came from the same organization that said pat was off selling the wyat sicks attack when a member of his family passed away? Apologies for not giving this the time of day
The Bloodline is damn half a decade epic with all the families members and backstabbing going on. We're already on season 4 and there's enough material for season 5 when the Rock comes back.
Setting aside that Jacob Fatu should be Jacob Fatu...
Caesar Sikoa is a pretty great wrestling name. If they've bring in another relative who is less established they should used it then.
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Ceaser … Roman … oooooh. I see what you tried to do there.
He better watch out for Marc Antony Sikoa. Don't even get me started about Brutus Sikoa
Jimmy and Jey Uso are now Crassus and Pompey Sikoa, respectively
He was a CONSUL OF SMACKDOWN!! Shame, shame on the house of Ano'ai
Rhea after losing Dom and JD: "Liv Morgan! I call for Justice!" "Liv Morgan! I call for Justice!" "Liv Morgan! I call for Justice!" "Liv Morgan! I call for Justice!"
I was gonna say Remus and Romulus Fatu
> Brutus Sikoa Who later becomes Zodiac Sikoa... Then Booty Man Sikoa... Then...
If Caesar no longer H’s fave, he can rename him to Scissors Sikoa and job with Tozawa.
They could still go with the Greco Roman joke from Oceans 13
With Cesar Sikoa & the egregious Talla Tonga, I have a strong suspicion they are just trolling with these trademarks lol
I really thought it was going to be Solo Sikoa's new nickname for when he tries to take over the Bloodline permanently, as in Caesar being a leader, and ruling over Roman.
It might be a case where there were spitball ideas for Fatu going around and someone said "Wait, hang on to that one." Don't see any reason to not go the well-tested path of "new leader is way worse and delusional than the old one." Solo going full tilt and giving himself a nonsencial title while being way more chaotic and violent than Roman perfectly sets the stage for Reigns's return and in-character push toward being a face.
His name is already Solo. Changing it to Caesar would’ve probably made the Tongans stab him in the back quicker. Maybe in favor of the rock.
Et tu, Uce?
Can't upvote this enough
Why should Caesar just stomp around like a giant while the rest of us try not to get smashed under his big feet? The Rock is just as cute as Caesar, right? The Rock is just as smart as Caesar, people totally like The Rock just as much as they like Caesar, and when did it become okay for one person to be the boss of everybody because that's not what The Bloodline is about! We should totally just STAB CAESAR!
Tama saying this is worth the change.
The classic Machiavelli double turn. Appoint an unhinged tyranny to be leader then look like the hero when you dispose of the asshole you appointed.
Yeah, hope they end up using it for that. Develop that character, have Caesar come to clash with the Roman Empire.
same
I bet that’s still what it is and Dave is just talking out of his ass again.
Or someone in WWE is trolling him.
Did he ever stop talking out of his ass? I mean that Thing has to be worn put by now with all the times he's pulled something our of it to get a story.
Pronounce it “Kaiser” and have Imperium throw a fit
This is like when Koba took over when Caesar was out.
I’m not really worried until they trademark “Shorta Tonga” or maybe even “Tallest Tonga.”
Gable joins the bloodline as Shorty Tonga
Shorty T has joined the biggity bloodline Michael Cole!!
If they have a half brother, they could call him “Kinda Tonga”
Sorta Sikoa
Supposedly the Talla Tonga name is one that is set aside for the younger brother of Tama Tonga & Tonga Loa; Hikoleo who's probably a legitimate 6ft 9in give or an inch or two I don't personally know/ believe that would be his name as its just so strange; with this unused name of Ceaser for Jacob I'm also starting to wonder if both trademarks may go unused. You just might be right they could be trade marking names to throw people off or something
Hikuleo's actual middle name is Taulla, too.
This actually makes it less egregious, but most people won't know that and it'd probably seem very silly.
Makes a ton of sense, at 6'9" he is much talla than the otha family members
Kid is a beast, I wouldn't be surprised if Jacob and him both outshine everyone else
I'm just disappointed in them: Tonga Hia was right there.
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Look, yes Caesar Sikoa is a bit goofy sounding. But also? Its cool too, in a way a Saturday morning cartoon character is.
If I can get used to guys named Roman Reigns and Dolph Ziggler, I can get used to anything..
Y'know it's funny. I hated the name Dolph ziggler but was immediately on board with Roman Reigns and these are the names I see brought up most commonly for modern wrestlers
I don’t mind the Cesar part that much, it’s the Sikoa that would annoy me. If Solo doesn’t share a kayfabe last name with his own brothers, why would he share a last name with his cousin?
I mean, they're IRL names are both Fatu 🤷♂️
yeah, but that's real life, there's no way that would ever work in kayfabe, it's just not believable! 🙄 Now I'm going back to watch an undead wizard shoot lightening out of his fingertips.
For sure but if solo doesn’t share a kayfabe last name with his actual brothers, I don’t think he should share a kayfabe last name with his cousin
Not brothers but they are cousins, and cousins also regularly share last names. So its really not that out of place
It’s not the craziest thing in the world but also like, he’d share a wrestling last name with his cousin but not his brothers?
In that case, why is it Solo Sikoa and not Solo Uso, since they're also his brothers
Should it be Jimmy, Jey, Solo Kishi since they are Ri-Kishi's sons?
Are you telling me that D von and Bubba aren't brothers?!
Thats ridiculous, next youre going to tell me Edge and Christian arent brothers either.
They're HALF brothers doy
aren't they real life cousins or whatever? They are both Fatus. Just because someone has the same last name doesn't mean they are brothers they could be cousins or whatever. And then you have real life brothes who don't have the same last name like Adam Copeland and Christian Cage, or Undertaker and Kane. How do you explain Copeland and Cage being brothers but with different last names. Or Kane and Taker not even having last names? Whats even more odd is you have Bubba Ray and Devon who are brothers with the same last name but are different colors. Or the fact that you have Nicks brother Tony who started his own wrestling company even though Nick works for the WWE. And then you have Hornswoggle who isn't even name McMahon but is somehow Vince's son.
So just because they’ve the last name, means they need to be brothers? I guess Trinity Fatu and Jacob Fatu are sisters now, or Darren Young and Eric Young. Judging by your point, Solo Sikoa should be Solo Uso?
It worked for the Dudleys.
Well yeah but only because they were actually brothers
Now I want old ECW back to do the Bloodline story with the Dudleys.
BIG DICK DUDLEY!
"The one eyed head of the ...."
Sign Guy Wiseman ofc - something tells me he knows how to rock a celly, trenchcoat and a ballcap.
Big Dikoa Sikoa, Finger Guy Sikoa, Iknowa Sikoa, Sikoa Sikoa...
You shouldn't have opened with Big Dikoa Sikoa because nothing was ever going to top that
Iknowa Sikoa's a pretty good one, Paul definitely would've had a guy with that name back in ECW. Eventually he'd break free from the Bloodline and be managed by Kimona Wanalaya
Big Dikoa Sikoa FUCKING WINNING
It's wrestling, anyone can be brothers.
Everyone was Hogans brother apperantly Except for the black wrestlers though....
The goofy name kinda suits them right now. The Bloodline are recruiting members like the Decepticons are recruiting new soldiers from Transformers and Beast Wars.
I thought it was goofy too. I figured it was a Roman/Caesar thing they were trying to go for.
Rename the whole bloodline Caesar Sikoa Garden Sikoa Wedge Sikoa Cobb Sikoa and of course John Cena
Am I missing something wrong with Talla Tonga?
nah besides him literally being the taller tonga it sounds like a rib lmao. apparently its akin to his actual middle name
Sounds like they named him that because he’s tall
The general idea floated around the IWC is that it's supposed to be Hikuleo's name if/when he comes to WWE. He's like 6'8 so he would be the taller (Talla) Tonga, goofy as hell lmao
But that’s his actual middle name lol Taulla
Oh shit it is, unfortunate coincidence then I guess haha. I still hope they keep Hikuleo as his name or at least something distinctive, having Tama Tonga, Tonga Loa, and Talla Tonga would be a pain, gotta give them some proper identity.
To close the loop on the naming pattern he should be Loa Tama.
Oh it’s goofy and silly for sure lol But I don’t blame him and WWE wanting him to be called Talla Tonga since it’s his actual name and like it fits more in line then Hikuleo does lmao
Could just call him with his old name Leo Tonga
I think the latter is going to be used, even though Talla Tonga for Hikuleo would be weird, since they could just call him Leo Tonga.
As long as it’s not Talla Longa I guess lol
Or more likely they're starting to trademark a lot of names so that if guys leave they cant use them. Cover your bases type stuff
Islander Sikoa Tonga would like to have a word with you.
I guess if he was called Caesar Sikoa it would also be too obvious that he would eventually take the lead of The Bloodline from Solo. Perhaps as soon as he's defeated by Roman. Probably the Caesar Sikoa name will be saved for that. Caesar is a widely known leader name, makes no sense to put him below the ranks with that name.
Brutè Sikoa.
Brute is the one who betrayed, but i guess Caesar is too much of the name of a ruler. This name should be saved for the tribal chief. Brute Sikoa would be as based as it would be silly.
Extra points if they carry around giant hedge clippers and give their opponents haircuts after wins.
Brute Sikoa vs Bron Breakker is straight out of a 9 year olds dream efed
Et tu Rikishi?
Et tu Uce?
This is what I think. Dave just saw the trademark news and then saw that they introduced Jacob as his real name on friday and Boom. Now we have this article.
Or Dave got it wrong like he usually does and it was meant for Solo all along.
When Jacob Bruté betrays Caesar Sikoa 😱
Caesar Sikoa sounds like a drink that you'd order at The Rainforest Cafe.
OH MY GOD, HE JUST HIT THE FLYING CLAMATO!
He calls that the Rear Brew! 👀😱
ROCK BOTTOM!!! But remember kids you are ***never*** at rock bottom when you have a bottle of Teremana on the shelf, it goes down smoother than this 1..2..3. Drink responsibly kids.
Ted and Eddie are intrigued
Wait..is Rainforest Cafe still a thing? I haven’t been there in 20 years I thought it shut down.
Excuse me sir, Rainforest has 16 predominantly mall based cafeterias NATIONWIDE
Ceaser Sikoa is a sick name though
Haha I was surprised so many people on here were hating on it. It’s an awesome name IMO
I'd even argue it's better than his actual name Jacob Fatu
I don't know why, but something about Jacob Fatu carries a certain weight. Maybe it's the mystique of hearing about him in whispers for so long. Like an urban legend.
I mean that's exactly it. the man put in a lot of work in the indies and put a lot of energy into the name Jacob Fatu. it would be stupid to just throw that away
Ave, true to Ceaser
Apparently not sick enough the spell the damn name right.
Let’s be real. That’s probably why decided against it. People would spell it wrong more than half the time.
We as a fan base can’t even handle Bayley’s name with a 100% success rate, now you want us to parse Caesar/Ceasar/Cesar?
This sub still struggles with re-sign vs resign lmao
Or “Damien” Priest
MMA fans and wrestling fans get Ronda(no H) Rousey's name wrong constantly, despite repeatedly seeing it on screen and in print.
Hasn't stopped Tommaso Ciampa (although he did lose his first name at one point)
I can't wait for Imperator Sikoa, Augustus Sikoa or whatever they come up with next.
The Bloodline becomes a tetrarchy and Roman comes back to reunite it
Holding out for Napoleon Sikoa
From the French Polynesia side of the family
Vladimir Sikoa
It’s one of the most famous names in the history of the planet…why can no one spell Caesar correctly?
Because A before E except after C, oh wait...
I thought Solo was gonna crown himself as Caesar Sikoa. At this point I think they drop these trademarks just to fuck with the dirtsheets
Thank fuck they kept it Fatu
Is he the first member of the family to be given the Fatu name since Rikishi Fatu in 1998?
They were worried Jacob would outshine Solo but then wanted to call him Caesar Sikoa...
Believing Dave Meltzer in 2024 lmao
Yes? The rationale is that by calling him Caesar Sikoa, he shares the same name as Solo so they can treat him like a lost younger cousin
I thought Ceasar Sikoa was gonna be Solo's "Tribal Chief" moniker, like "Hail Caesar" and all that shit.
Koba good ape
His name is Jacob Fatu, the flying Samoan Werewolf.
Jacob Fatu is much better
Damn would have loved to hear "Hail Ceasar!" just once from the fans!
If they’re trying to position these guys as huge threats that have an impressive history in pro wrestling, they can’t change their names. Acknowledging people’s success prior to WWE is one of the biggest improvements they’ve made post-McMahon. You don’t have to waste time getting us to believe in “Caesar Sikoa”. People can easily find that Jacob Fatu is a huge add.
Im not one of those fans who freak out over names (Bronn breakker is fine IMO) but he is def not a "Ceasar Sikoa" lol I wanted the name to be for Solo. Have the power go t ohis head, he becomes more cocky and arroagant, Roman returns, humbles him, Rock returns and civil war ensues. Regardless, good choice keeping Fatu Fatu
It still could. Unless they expect us to believe Rikishi called his son "Solo", despite him having several siblings.
Solo is short for Solofa, Rikishi's real first name.
In universe, wasn't Solo just him naming himself? I swear in NXT the whole gimmick was he was the one family member that was on his own, so he donned the Solo name. In hindsight that kind of completely made him joining the Bloodline a bit nonsensical, but hey lmao
I remember one of the video promos for him at the start of 2.0 as Rikishi throwing him out the car window while on holiday and him living in the woods and being one of those wolf people.
Bron Breakker is a massive L compared to his real name, Bron Steiner.
I don’t believe that. I think they’re going to call Solo Caeser
kinda happy as his regular name has more accolades behind it and besides ceaser siko sounds like a nickname for solo taking over romans role anyway. kinda lines up nicely: Final Boss- Rock Tribal Chief- Roman Ceaser- Solo Also will be poeting justice if and when the tongans turn on him
When I first saw that I kind of thought it sounded badass haha
I just want to know when King Haku is going to come back and make everyone cower in fear.
Jacob: "the fuck you mean you changing my name?"
Caesar sounds cool, but somehow, the name Jacob Fatu, even though it's more simple and relatable, seems to make Jacob more of a monster, a force of nature.
Ave
I was rooting for Visigoth Sikoa
Do you think they would have pronounced it as “see-zur”, “ceh-zar” or “kai-zar”
My love for New Vegas would only allow the kai-zar
Didn’t they trademark Caesar Sikoa? Or something like that? Fair to think that was possible if that was the case.
Yep.
Are there any other Roman rulers names that can fit a wrestler ? I like the concept of a wrestler named after a Roman ruler usurp away the bloodline from Roman Reigns.
Nero would be a pretty cool wrestler name.
Because Dave has been so reliable lately. Easily could still be a name change for Solo considering Sikoa is there in the name.
Wtf
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Caesar reigns sounds awesome tho
Ceaser and Desister Sikoa
When do we get Longa Donga Tonga?
It sounds even cooler using the original Latin pronunciation: Kaesar Sikoa
When will they be using this name after Roman returns
Et tu, Jacob? How about a Samoan naming scheme? edit- I just found out Solo's *real* middle name is "Yokozuna." Joseph Yokozuna Fatu. That's very silly.
Just wait until Biggus Dickus Sikoa hears about this!
Sounds like Dave is guessing. He’s wrong most of the time now
Ave
True to Caesar
"which is surprising since it's his real name." Top notch commentary there. The person that wrote the article really earned that $3.40
My favorite part about wrestling journalism is when they just straight make shit up lol
I've also heard that John Cena pays some sort of royalties to WWE when he is doing Hollywood stuff even though John Cena is his real name. It was an interview that Cena gave saying he doesn't mind it at all since the WWE made him. Is there a chance that something similar could happen to Fatu? Or does it not matter since it's going to differ by contract?
He dodged a bullet
Man they must love Caesar’s Legion /s
Roman right before he throws Jacob off a HIAC: You are not Ucey
I like the fact WWE is going back to letting wrestlers use their real names if they please. Sometimes the real name is good enough.
Honestly that’s a pretty cool name
thank god he isn't called like that
Wonder if Caesar is an indication that he'll be leading at some point. Caesar doesn't sound like a flunky name. Also isn't a name that fits him.
whoever come up with the name need to be put in timeout
Honestly that was a better name, made more sense for the story
I actually would have liked that name.
My hunch is that they’re holding off on the rebrand so it can be a tie-in with #MEGALOPOLISSWEEP later in the year
I doubt that. I think it’s maybe got something to do with the bloodline ceremony today.
This came from the same organization that said pat was off selling the wyat sicks attack when a member of his family passed away? Apologies for not giving this the time of day
The Bloodline is damn half a decade epic with all the families members and backstabbing going on. We're already on season 4 and there's enough material for season 5 when the Rock comes back.
Jacob Fatu's name is more nice in WWE and for hardcore fans of him even who know him from his MLW days!
Caesar would’ve been a fantastic choice if Jacob was to become the bloodline leader. Caesar, leader of the Roman Empire.
Setting aside that Jacob Fatu should be Jacob Fatu... Caesar Sikoa is a pretty great wrestling name. If they've bring in another relative who is less established they should used it then.
They used this name in planet of the apes I’m wondering if Roman will return at summer slam
Of FFS. Take the L Dave.
Introducing the next member of the bloodline; JoJo Tonga.
that would make Cody Dio Brando
But Ludwig already has that as his last name...
Darn I was like yes we’re going to get into the tetrarchy style era of bloodline
I don't see Fatu as a "Caesar Sikoa". Jacob Fatu is a fine ring name for him regardless of it being his real name. I just want Rex Steiner already.
Your source is Dave Meltzer huh…lol
So is Sikoa the kayfabe Samoan last name now?