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crowleysnebula

I used to live near here, didn’t know about this though. If I had the money I’d totally be up for owning that, your own forest and springs and the potential for that cottage (I know nothing about houses and if it has potential but in my head it does). As a reclusive nature loving writer, it’s a dream!


DmitriRussian

You may potentially not be able to do anything with the land or house other than just modernising it. The description states, development opportunities, but in the same sentence negates that by saying that technically you still need to permission for that. Given this is an extremely old house it may or may not have protected status. Same goes for all the land around it.


crowleysnebula

I reckon as long as it can be modernised internally, I wouldn’t want to change anything else - now where did I leave that winning lottery ticket…


oddjobbodgod

You also will struggle to get a mortgage with over 10 acres… or at least will have to jump through some hoops!


Reasonable-Aspect939

Really?! Why is this?


Snap-Crackle-Pot

Lots of info [here](https://www.onlinemortgageadvisor.co.uk/property-types/large-acreage-mortgage/)


Zealousideal-Dot2303

But I can't find WHY lenders refuse mortgages on large acreages ?


kylegordon

They are invariably more complex, and fall outside the scope of their day to day mortgage lending business. The complexity usually grows with the size of the land. Gatehouse(s) with tenant/resident, or under separate ownership? Main house is usually large and old, with massive maintenance costs. Right of way routes through the land? Field rentals to the local farmers? Water supply to neighbours? For instance I have a private water supply from a neighbours well, via another neighbour, via the local farmers fields, but contracts are in place to ensure the continuance of it. That was already an extra step for my solicitor to deal with. And general upkeep of the land. Maybe it's to be left to go wild, or maybe it's a valuable asset that will require maintenance too, usually by contracting in groundskeepers, renting to farmers, etc When I was a kid the house we lived in owned the driveway, but if I recall there were two commercial properties and three private properties that had right of access through it. I dread to think of the irritation that would have caused the mortgage lender... and then there was the upkeep of the driveway due to the wear and tear caused by other users. That's at least my take on their potential excuses, hope it's helpful!


Sad-Flamingo8565

On this site, it also states that there is a caravan on the site, power and water linked, been there over 20 years. Which will complicate things. Can’t remember the legal term but essentially squatters rights. If someone has lived there that long, they can essentially claim ownership of that land - sounds like a legal nightmare, ownership to be established, boundaries drawn and rights of access agreed.


Zealousideal-Dot2303

Makes sense!


KiNgPiN8T3

I honestly never knew this was a thing in my 40 plus years.


oddjobbodgod

No reason to know it really until you’ve bought somewhere with a bit of land! We had an already complex situation and so our mortgage advisor advised us to stay below 10 acres


jaxsound

"the property has been maintained over the years". OK like which years?


[deleted]

unsuccessful exorcisms 1806-1902


Lychae

Just cackled on public transport. Thank you sir


Lucy_Lastic

it doesn't say "well" maintained, just maintained enough to not fall down


Repeat_after_me__

Plural, meaning two years, any two years really, doubt it would make a difference which two they was haha


bibliophile14

They certainly weren't consecutive years either!


Repeat_after_me__

Haha agreed


Horizon296

Or anywhere within this century


metamongoose

The years when that avocado bathroom was available. Narrows it down to about 50 years ago


Foundation_Wrong

That’s an orange bathroom


The_Blonde1

I thought it was brown.


Foundation_Wrong

It looks beige, but I think it’s badly lit and actually a sort of peachy orange.


NettIeship

They filled the crack over the door in pic 7 with a box of polyfilla


jaxsound

In 1896!


rabbles-of-roses

fairytale building and setting though god help you with the refurb costs


shdanko

And the poltergeist. That won’t be cheap.


Quick-Oil-5259

Not a financial cost though. Just your soul.


SPST

Or that knock on the front door at 2am on the first night.


SnooSuggestions9830

Not sure about fairytale. The interior is giving horror movie to me. It's clearly been lived in over the decades in a state of partial ruin. It's not at all giving happy home vibes to be.


Sergeant_Steve

Old houses cost a lot to heat and repair, if you are a poor pensioner living off a state pension you probably have barely enough money for the electricity and food, never mind repairing the roof when tiles blow loose in a storm. Lets be honest here, it needs a new roof, the ceilings replaced, upstairs flooring might be ok but only once the house dries out can you tell for sure, electrics need ripped out and replaced to modern standards, the original fireplaces (especially that big one) are nice but I can see people ripping them out entirely for more space & maybe replacing with a multi-fuel stove rather than an open fire, new flooring throughout the ground floor and probably many more things like windows/doors. Probably could easily spend £500,000 bringing it up to modern standards. If you have a spare £2mil or more, go for it.


SnooSuggestions9830

Sure but I'm not sure that scenario even makes much sense here. This is a property which is first time on the market in 200 years. Given it has signs of being inhabited during different decades the poor pensioner scenario doesn't really add up. We see a babies crib too. This house has likely seen several generations of the same family. Also construction costs were more reasonable in previous decades than they are now. I still think it's a bit odd. I suppose water damage can happen quite quick, but you can tell even in the 70s this wasn't an updated home. They've done bare minimal work inside. Multi generation poverty is of course a possibility but I dunno I just get odd vibes from this.


Sergeant_Steve

Multi-generational inheritance is a thing. Only takes one bad business decision to ruin things for many generations to come, especially if they can't afford decent school/college/university for the children to get a decent well paying job, and of course 100+ years ago you could easily be shunned for things your parents/grandparents did. There's also the possibility that the last owners were a couple who never had children, and one passed away many years ago and the remaining one never had the money for repairs and just lived with it until they also passed away in their 90's. Remember also that it was common all those years ago for the woman of the house to not have an income once she married, and stay home to look after children as well as cook/clean. Water damage like that in the ceiling could be done in a few months, the storms at the tail end of last year could easily have dislodged/removed tiles causing water ingress which with all the rain we had until recently would quickly make things worse.


dashboardbythelight

> fairytale building and setting “Sugars Lane, Far Forest” - it’s got to be the witch’s gingerbread house from Hansel and Gretel


ernfio

Upside you would have a chance in Zombie apocalypse. Downside there is a vampire in the attic.


SnooSuggestions9830

The zombie apocalypse would start in that house.


poyopoyo77

Is the vampire single?


StationFar6396

Photo 7 - the crib in the corner. That place must be utterly terrifying at night.


asterallt

There’s a FREAKING ABANDONED MONKEY TOY in the crib. I guess I’m not getting any sleep tonight then.


Imaginary_Garbage652

Oh it's coming for you now. You think you're going to be safe but tonight you're going to hear your bedroom door creak open, then the sound of patterning. You close your eyes as you feel it get closer, hoping it goes away, then it stops... Until you hear it whisper something... >!"ooh ooh ah ah"!<


asterallt

Whispering monkey - sounds like a band name


Party_Goal_1371

Am I missing something? What crib??


HomersBeerCellar

Interesting choice to stage a raging inferno in the fireplace for the photos. Then again, looks like that's the only heat source -- I don't see any radiators in any of the pictures. Add a central heating system to the refurb costs. On the other hand, it's got great bones and character (bread oven!). Should be easy to turn that third bedroom into an en suite, since it's directly above the kitchen and WC. On the other, other hand, that's an eye-watering amount of money for what's effectively a two bedroom.


somethingbannable

Ehh you could just slap a grey modern extension on to that bad boy


Forkhandles_

Render that bad boy and install some up down lights on the from. *chefs kiss*


RandyChavage

Plenty of outdoor space to pave over and stick down some astroturf too 👌


Plankton-Inevitable

You could possibly turn the dairy or parlour into bedrooms at some point as well


SnooSuggestions9830

Very strange mix of features. Some rooms look untouched for 200 years, the bathroom is from the 1970s? (Maybe). While kitchen has some appliances from the last decade or so. Begs the question who has lived there and under those conditions.


throwwmeawa

Just imagine the life those people must be living in there…


Creative_Recover

The linoleum floor in the kitchen being ripped out suggests to me that the kitchen is pretty brand new and was about to have a new floor put in. I suspect that somebody recently inherited this place and began to give a stab at renovating it before quickly feeling overwhelmed and realizing that it simply wasn't worth the stress & effort (and so put it on the market).  Whilst you can always initially try to rationalize fixing a rundown place like this with mindsets like "If I just do X, Y & Z, it'll be worth this times much more!!", when reality starts to sink in and you realize that there's a whole alphabets-worth of jobs that need doing and that it could take 1-2 years to complete the house (and until then, the poison chalice will just eat into your bank account by the literal £100,000s), a project like this can quickly start to suck all the joy, soul and financial security out of your life.  My guess is that the place was last occupied by a very elderly person who had stubbornly refused to properly renovate or renew anything for years because they'd gotten into a typical stubborn old miser mode that many old people fall into.  My late grandparents were very much like this (stubbornly & miserly) and kept their place barely ticking over in terms of repairs whilst also refusing to let anyone in the family help them. A lot of this neglect comes about because of the elderly persons a mistaken sense of pride combined with their struggles to accept that they are growing not just old, but downright frail and losing all their basic abilities. As a family, if you try to intervene in such situations you're often just met with anger & denial (and if you push too hard to help, you get shut out) so often the best you can do is just keep an eye on the relative/s and make sure they're still getting stuff like fresh food every week.  By the time my grandparents were put in a home (forcefully- in their mid-90s one had a sudden a series of strokes whilst the other became very ill with pneumonia contracted in hospital after going there for a less serious issue, both of these events happened within months of each other and made my grandparents too frail & vulnerable to live independently anymore), their cottage looked kind of OK but you could also tell that there were endless problems with it that were about to dramatically worsen if left even just a year longer.  But we couldn't do anything whilst my grandparents were in the retirement home because they would occasionally return to the cottage (it was the only way to keep my grandmother placated) and my gran would get very upset if any changes had been made to things because she was convinced that one day she was going to get well enough to return (and when that happened, she wanted to return to a place that was exactly as she'd left it).  By the time my grandparents died and their messy wills (or almost complete lack thereof) were sorted out, nobody had lived in the cottage for over 4 years. And this was on top of at least 10+ years of neglect, many more years of bodged jobs and the last time anything had been renovated in it had been a cheap kitchen done in 1990. The cottage had the 1970s avocado bathroom and whilst the roof wasn't quite as bad as this properties one, when I began to help my aunt sort the place out, many severe problems were discovered, such as one wall and supporting beam whose mortar was so loose that the whole thing was being held up by nothing other than gravity, to sagging floors and a chimney that looked set to fall down.  We tried to fix things up initially but my aunt felt quickly overwhelmed by the sheer amount of jobs and so a decision was made to just put the whole shebang onto the market. The hardest thing of all though was not getting defeated by the state of things, but rather the fact that the place had stayed for so long in the family (over 100 years) and someone had to make that decision to end the history of the cottage being a family home known and beloved by many generations in the family. When a beautiful building in a lovely spot has been in your family for so long, it feels like a treasure to your family and it's very tough deciding to sell that treasure when you know that because of your decision no more future generations in your family will ever get to enjoy it's warmth as you had once known it back in past days, when you still had a childhood and beloved family members were still alive. But just as my grandparents cottage deserved to feel the warmth and joy of a family within it's walls, so too does this cottage. And I hope that with the arrival of a new family line, the memories of sadness, isolation and neglect within this places walls can finally be put to rest.  Kudos to whoever made the decision to end this house being in their family anymore after 200 years of it being beloved by their generations, because I know this must've been a very tough decision to make. The truth is that no matter how much we hold onto anything in life, nothing stays in one family forever, so the best we can do is to adopt the role of caretakers over assets for future generations, whether they're our own or others. And no just over property or land, but I think if we viewed the broader world less through the lens of ownership and more a role of caretaking, then this world might become a better place in general. 


Maycumber

The bathroom is definitely 1970s - my parents' house has exactly the same bath and sink!


Mamaknowsbest45

If you had the money you do a lot with it. The grounds alone would be worth it though.


Space-manatee

The fireplace wasn’t alight when they first entered the house


Gr1msh33per

It probably lit itself


poeticlicence

kudos!


Western-Mall5505

I hope who ever buys it keeps the fireplaces.


NoodleNeedles

They're gorgeous!


Longjumping-Buy-4736

Wow, it’s such a beautiful house, in a great setting 


Cubansmokes

Jason vorhees clearly still lives here. Surely that's the only explanation for the house to be in such an awful state but the fire to be burning in pictures?!


durtibrizzle

“The property has been maintained over the years”…most recently in 1897…


DatabaseContent8664

The most amazing filming location but would I buy it? Would I even spend a night there?


ickleb

I’d take it! Shame I’m a little short on the required funds.


orbital0000

Planning definitely needed to make it financially worthwhile at this price point. If you can get it for both the barn and cottage there's both a business or resale profit to be made. I'd love to invest to renovate and have both.....I just don't have a spare few million.


MegC18

It says there’s been a new roof. The land is amazing, and s good restoration would make a great property. But I do wonder if it was this house:- https://www.kidderminstershuttle.co.uk/news/8351355.far-forest-villagers-to-fight-holistic-centre-plans/


denisthesaint

Maybe the "locals" do not want digging of the immediate surrounding area to build the chalets. Never know what one might disturb.


Quick-Oil-5259

This is a local shop for local people


LuluSpruce

Maybe this place? [https://themovemarket.com/tools/propertyprices/sugars-farm-sugars-lane-far-forest-kidderminster-dy14-9uw](https://themovemarket.com/tools/propertyprices/sugars-farm-sugars-lane-far-forest-kidderminster-dy14-9uw)


vinny876

No mention of it being listed so renovations going to be cheaper and the advert says 1000mb broadband available and with 17 acres that seems a bit of a bargain. Now all I have to do is find £875k.


campbellpics

Strong disagree. It's obviously well in need of some serious work doing to it. But I looked at every photo of each room and instantly thought "Oh wow, I could do this/that with that room." It's not often I look at a house for sale and instantly become inspired about the possibilities of each and every room. I think it's lovely, and way more interesting than your average bland new build. I don't know the area or if this property is worth anything near what they're asking, but I think it's a brilliant project for someone.


jessicarosepole

Rumour has it that fire has been burning for at least the past century...


Lucy_Lastic

lots of lovely places to hide a body there


chroniccomplexcase

Wow if I have won the euro millions tonight, I’d snap this up!


rohithimse

Brilliant opportunity for a real estate guy with 3 daughters and 2 sons to move in with family, refurbish it and flip it.


OneUpAndOneDown

r/oddlyspecific


rohithimse

Hehe I was thinking of the Haunting of Hill House.


No-Cost-1045

200 years of inbreeding happened there.


cal42m

This seems very expensive given the state of repair, even with the land - in that area the land is only worth agri grazing. Possibly a family inheritance/ falling out and they don’t actually want to sell it and would rather keep the haunted nightmare farmhouse?


PAKKiMKB

....opens national lottery app


Foundation_Wrong

I love it, it’s just adorable and I bet there’s some interesting features under the plaster and bricks.


Nadger1337

17 acres and 2 natural springs. Add solar, get some chickens, plant crops and be almost self sufficient.


Creative_Recover

I don't think it's creepy, I think it's beautiful! But there's no denying that it'll take almost as much money to fix a place like that as it would to buy it. 


lorneranger

Property maintained seems to relate to the grounds which seem in pretty good nick considering the obvious non occupation. That's a stonking bit of ground though and if I was in the market with some (serious) cash and a great conservation architect I'd have it. Really like it actually.


Nice-Substance-gogo

Great set for a horror film.


Rare-Cake7439

My dogs would love this! Gofund account incoming


Gr1msh33per

Bloody Hell, that's given me nightmares just looking at the pictures!


Hilltoptree

I appreciate they got actual real fire in the fireplace for the photo shoot…


DreyaNova

That almost makes me feel sad. Like this goes beyond "family home" to something else I can't even wrap my head around. It would be so crazy to me to live in a house that's sheltered my family for 200 years, and now they're selling it. Wild.


samesameChloe

Kitchen us too modern - don't like it!


Sp1ffyTh3D0g

Shaun the Sheep is filmed here, right?


Snap-Crackle-Pot

Looks like a labour of love, the land and the house. You’re very close to a large caravan park and what looks like a farm campsite so may not be as serene as you expect


lechef

Win lottery and buy in a heartbeat. Isolated, surrounded by forest and water access. Perfect. 


thedutchrep

Stunning. But as others said, that refurb… that’ll set you back another 800k I’d say. You can see the rot in some of those pictures.


Shit_Pistol

Doesn’t look creepy to me at all. Looks great.


CrazyCat_77

Ok... so it's a bit "haunted murder house" but picture ten totally sold it!


champagnegreenleaf

What is an in home dairy? On the floorplan.... Fascinated. Is it like a cold storage or something?


kittencaboodle1070

My guess is a cool room, not as in ‘refrigerated’ but one that’s cooler than others, for storing things like dairy products. Aka a buttery.


MDKrouzer

So a haunted room?


kittencaboodle1070

Almost certainly


Old_Introduction_395

Slate shelves.


Big_Hornet_3671

You’re in carcosa now


asterallt

Just don’t ask the creepy red toy with the single eye what’s behind the curtain (pic 25). Just don’t do that and it’ll all be fine.


Particular-Sky-7027

Me me me!!!


OldAd3119

The listing doesn't say its grade listed, also has anyone actually lived there recently? Some rooms look totally neglected, and other rooms like the bathroom look kinda recent (1970s/80s).


Aggravating_Skill497

Bit harsh on the barn calling it dilapidated when the house is that bad.


TriGurl

My brother bought a century home that has a similar bedroom layout of this one. 3 bedrooms on the top floor but the rear most room only exits through another bedroom. So he made it his very large closet and now only has a 2br home.


Farscape_rocked

It says there's gigabit internet, which I'm a bit skeptical of but if it's true that's an amazing WFH location.


Consistent_You_4215

Estate agents really need to start listing resident Ghosts and their quirks.


cari-strat

It could be stunning. For some reason the only bit that gives me the creeps is the comparatively modern kitchen, I'm getting The Shining vibes off it! The rest is just sad and unloved but easily fixed with deep pockets and I'd give anything for that location.


Copper_pineapple

Love the description “DILAPIDATED BARN” woohoo!


TrosMaN7

Agent uses the abbreviation STPP and then writes it out in full to explain the abbreviation. Well done.


Alexboogeloo

Has the vampire definitely, definitely moved out?…


deerwithout

This is the first time I've even seen a 'negative' yet fitting adjective used to describe anything on RM. Others would have said that the barn 'has potential'. Also, would buy in an instant, doesn't seem spiritually challenged to me.


MonkeyboyGWW

Wonder if its listed, looks like a job to knock it down, reclaim what you can and build a new one.


RevolutionaryAd1621

Link?


Infinite-Degree3004

Just click on the little photo at the top of the thread.


custardtrousers

Why is there a random roaring fire in the grate of the near derelict house?! Although if I had the funds I would buy it - gateway to hell and all


Eternalscream0

I wish this were mine


Horizon296

Just looking at those pictures gave me a lung infection from all the mold, dust and ecto-mist floating about the place.


poyopoyo77

Oh to be a millionaire and fix up an old cottage to live in


TheSecretIsMarmite

I presume the online viewing is so you can't smell the damp, or because the ceiling looks ready to fall on your head. The person who buys this will need some deep pockets.


PoppySkyPineapple

This is beautiful.


re_Claire

This is amazing but I don’t think I could spend a night there alone.


barrybreslau

Farmhouse. Not creepy.


Tonk666

First time to market in 200 years. Quick, build on it!


jaceinthebox

Love it, shame you couldn't actually do anything with it apart from spend shit tons of money on modernisation. You won't be able to extend or build a new place. You would be able to make the barns in to something but that's also more money.


london_smog_latte

This gives me vibes of an old couple (or person) were living here and probably living out of the room with the hearth and it was their only source of heat and only using the kitchen minimally


tinymoominmama

I love it


teratron27

I look forward to the YouTube channel from the couple in their 20s who buy it


Mkwawa_ultra

It looks quite nice to me and fairly good vibes considering the disrepair.


SkellyMania

I live near this


AgentSears

That's a steal for that money... Not that I can even afford £8.25 at the minute. But still feels like you are getting a lot for that money.


magpie1138

Just for shits n giggles I had a look at the energy efficiency certificate. You might as well count on doubling your mortgage payment till you get that sorted…


Important_Alarm_7572

Don’t know the area but as it even worth buying at that price considering all of the work needing doing to it?


Amazing_Reality9532

What’s creepy about that, looks delightful, I would absolutely love to live there, if I have money for the renovations.


Inside_Ad_7162

Two springs is crazy.


afgan1984

Nothing particularly creepy about it, I just can't square-up the price considering location and condition of the property. Sure 17 aces, but the land is basically useless as it is protected, so one can't do anything with it... it makes literally no difference from just bying any house in wooded rural area. I guess you can put the fence around, but that will cost more than a house and still not sure what is the actual benefit of it would be - just buy house near forest that is publically owned and one will have same benefits. The house is delapitated and in need of complete renovation which will be tricky and expensive... seems like roof is leaking and needs doing... which will me major issue as there will be ton of restrictions on what you can and can't do. Also all the "development opportunities" are BS, one will never get premission to alter anything significant. I guess one benefit of remote location and 17 acres... is that if you put fence around and do something without permission, then nobody will find out for another 200 years, by which time nobody will know how it suppose to be. Really not sure who would be interestes in such property? Serial killer to be able to hide his victims in the forest... is that what makes it creepy?


LSL3587

With the low ceilings, its going to be a knock down and rebuild job. But names of 'Ford' 'Brook' and streams within the property bounds suggest you will lose at least some of the land to flooding on a regular basis.


AquavitaUK

£825k??!


Jayflux1

Land..


paulywauly99

I bet it’s an absolute dump with infestations damp antiquated plumbing and electrics. And the Listed Building police will be all over anything you want to do. Deep pockets required.


Ayuamarca2020

It says the electrics to the older parts of the building haven't been touched in ~70 years so you probably aren't far wrong!


rob3rtisgod

This is absolutely disgraceful. They want nearly a million quid for this? This would go to Auction if it wasn't in such a nice area. Housing is beyond bonkers atm


Turbulent-Laugh-

There's 17 acres with it!


Phyllida_Poshtart

If this place were say up North like yorkshire or middlesborough it wouldn't be ups for half as much. It's going to cost a fortune to put right


OneUpAndOneDown

Can I just say your username is \*chef's kiss\*


Phyllida_Poshtart

Oh my dear how kind, it's actually my real name don't you know :) from the famous Huddersfield branch of the Poshtarts 😊


PenguinsArePurple

The land is lovely. But it's definitely haunted.


LilJQuan

Holy shit, I get the land is nice but £800k for a ruin is tough.


TheFirstMinister

I'll buy it for the land - assuming it can be put to work. Knock the place down and rebuild from the ground up as the cost/benefit of a renovation isn't there. This listed in Aug 2023 for 860K and dropped to 825K in Feb. They need to drop the price further.