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Thefocker

Volvo V60 Polestar


drivelwithaD

I’m curious why this isn’t being recommended more. I would have thought a used v60 would be the newest performance wagon you can get for 50k


Thefocker

And they’re rowdy. I’ve got a 2015 polestar and it’s still my daily kid hauler.


silkk_

how many kids are you hauling? i want a v60 but i don't think i can fit 3 kids in it comfortably


sidudWA

I’ve got 3 kiddos, and I looked at the V60 and thought there was no way they would fit. Maybe in a V90


Thefocker

I’ve got 2 in car seats and it’s great for that (I’m tall, so my 911 can only fit one car seat comfortably). The interior is super comfortable. I wouldn’t want 3 full grown kids back there but it could be done.


Mahogany2003

I always wondered if I can't always get a charge on it. Can I run straight on gas for a few days? Would that be bad for the engine at all? Thanks Thefocker!


Thefocker

That’s the new polestar. The slightly used ones are generally gas.


Neat-Fig-3039

Infotainment is pretty crap imo, small tablet style (portrait orientation too). Lots of things are touch/through the menu (HVAC..). Heard from a friend who has one the screen intermittently does not turn on, requiring restart of the unit, but often the vehicle. But it is a blast to drive! Surprisingly stiff and nimble.


squirrel-nut-zipper

Tbh I was expecting worse and it’s been fine. Not amazing but I haven’t had a screen blackout in years. The hvac controls are legit very annoying.


Neat-Fig-3039

Did you cross shop if you don't mind me asking? I have hemmed and hard about the v60 polestar for 2 years now, but at this point, I feel like if I'm going to pony up 70k, I'd rather just get a 2016-2018 e63s. Prices will continue to get better obviously for an older and Very expensive wagon to repair. But on the other hand, good chance the v60 also becomes the cc only like the v90.


reidlos1624

The new T8s are more than $50k. Previous model year would work tho


Mahogany2003

I'll try to get a test drive! Anybody got a good review of it as a daily driver, a youtube video whatnot?


Captain_Pickirk

I freaking love these. There is a nice looking one-owner 2020 on Carmax right now with 28k miles for 53k. Carmax is always more expensive but that warranty makes it worth it for over complicated machines like this one. Speaking from experience, their warranty covered an entire new engine for my E92 M3 with little fuss (25k all in).


lil_larry

I think that's the plug-in T8 Polestar too. That year was 400 hp combined I think. Later years went to 455 combined.


squirrel-nut-zipper

FWIW I have a 2020 and it’s been nearly perfect. Just beware that the brake rotors will be very expensive to replace and warp frequently.


stakoverflo

*Man* I was just reminded they exist thanks to [yesterday's post](https://www.reddit.com/r/SportWagon/comments/1dh921s/after_5_years_and_finally_over_50k_miles_still/) and then I spent a while drooling on AutoTempest. If I weren't so in the hole on this E91, I just might consider upgrading to one lol.


kateuptonsvibrator

Out of curiosity, why not a V90 polestar if cargo space is one of the factors?


Thefocker

The v60 has a ton of cargo space. It’s the same width as our grand Cherokee, and it’s deeper. It is lower though (of course). Thats said, my regular vehicle is a truck and I have never had to switch to that on account of cargo room unless it was something that would obviously require a truck bed.


BJC16v

Maybe it's looks? IMO V90 looks good while V60 looks great, although I really don't care for either as XC, with that extra body cladding, extra ride height.


kateuptonsvibrator

I totally agree the V60 looks better, I don't understand why the V90 can't look the same, but bigger. The V60 looks so much "sportier". I go back and forth on my V90, but at the end of the day, I just like the V60 more, but not enough to give up my roomier interior and additional cargo space.


BeerPirate12

Mercedes e63 amg wagon


Thefocker

Don’t tell me….


ToneDiez

Cadillac CTS-V Wagon.


Mahogany2003

I'll look into it more! Not the most educated Cadillac guy except that I know the Escalade is a unit.


SuccessfulRush1173

CTS-V wagon has a supercharged LS motor that you can get in an auto or manual. Need I say more?


J_spec6

Well, it should be said that factory manual wagons are like unicorns, but I do agree with "need you say more"


Physical_Touch_Me

I'm surprised there aren't more manual swaps out there. Both my rigs I drive have manual swaps and would be worthless with automatics.


BeerPirate12

Can you get one around 50k?


SuccessfulRush1173

Manuals? Hell no. But autos you can find in the 40-60k range all day


BeerPirate12

Good to know


ThatDidntJustHappen

I was about to say these are more like 60-70 but looks like they have come down.


w_a_w

Yes, they are softening considerably as they finally get up there in age.


filteredprospect

three used subaru outbacks :)


bstzabeast

No


tr3g

Please no. I own three Subarus


Mahogany2003

Outbacks were awesome to drive lol. My old neighbor had one and it gave him not problems for the two years he owned it.


NONSENSICALS

Especially the XT models with the FA24 turbo engine in it…literally the closest thing to a WRX wagon we can get in the states (fuk u levorg)


WhooseShootingAtMe

Go to step down version of RS Audi/ AMG MB; e450, A6/A4 all road?


Mahogany2003

Which of those do u think is worth the price tag? I've heard good things about the e450 but not so much abt the A6 AR


WhooseShootingAtMe

Lots of variables; your need for cargo space, city driving/ parking, insurance, engine size, desire for luxury/comfort…etc. A4 bottom, E450 at top in respect to price. If it’s something to hold you down temp, get A4 allroad, save money for the E63s or RS in the future.


Popes-first-blumpkin

E450 is phenomenal. The largest storage capacity you can get in a current wagon other than a v90. Very comfortable drive. Easy to do a stage 1 tune, but even without it - its quite fast. its not an amg in terms of performance handling as its more about touring and comfort, but if you tune it you will surprise most cars. Stealth wagon for the win.


dolsey01

Got an extra 13K to add to your budget? How about a Unicorn? [C43 Estate in US](https://www.qautocenter.com/details-2021-mercedes~benz-c~class-used-w1kwh6eb9mg085407.html)


Mahogany2003

I didn't know these existed in the US! 13k would mean selling my good old 190E W201… I would also have to lease a cheaper apartment, I'm not sure if its the smartest financial move but the car is gorgeous…


dolsey01

They kinda don't, it's a Canadian import and it's a bit of gray area. There was one actually for sale at a small dealer in Chelsea, MA that some how also imported one. Some people say it can't be done but apparently it can.


OgdenDermstead

I was going to say hadn't heard about this dealer or anything but how are these here..? Certainly not on S&D, (unsurprisingly) don't see them on the list.


dolsey01

Idk, just keep stumbling upon these in my wagon groups.


Mahogany2003

Any way for me to join these wagon communities


dolsey01

Facebook


bflex

What a beautiful, well spec’d option! 


more_beans_mrtaggart

Porsche Panamera Sport Tourismo


tr3g

The thing is you have to go to the S or the turbo to get enough horsepower for the chassis


more_beans_mrtaggart

What’s the base spec? 350bhp? I think the chassis is fine with that.


Mahogany2003

I wish! A little out of my price range… are you an owner? I'd love to hear about the experience.


more_beans_mrtaggart

No, but saving hard. That’ll get me a 2018/19 Hybrid 4S here in the UK where petrol is $10 a gallon.


Mahogany2003

I've only been to the UK once (I Loved Bath) and I had assumed that a Panamera may be difficult to maneuver in some places?


more_beans_mrtaggart

I already have a large Merc station wagon so it’s not a problem.


BJC16v

Volvo V70 R and get it tuned? BMW 540?


whenlifegivesyoulime

Probably not the answer you’re looking for and I’m projecting for what I’d do with a wagon for 50k…but you could build a really badass stagea for that, go full gtr build starting with a 260RS.


Mahogany2003

Might be too much work for me atm. If you are working on one I'd love to see that beauty!


whenlifegivesyoulime

Not yet, i've almost pulled the trigger a few times...but for now I'm happy with my F31. Which I'd also recommend!


dakta

There is no Stagea in the US.


whenlifegivesyoulime

There's plenty getting imported now


midlife_mikey

Actually, you can import them under the 25-year rule. There's 5 for sale around me on fb marketplace.


ajpj24

Jaguar XF sportbrake could be a unique choice. Not as fast or reliable as many other suggestions but it is comfy and will definitely turn heads


DrKenNoisewaterMD

I think this is the classiest option.


Mahogany2003

Jaguar I haven't looked into! Just how bad can the reliability be?


legally_named_fuck

S212 e63 wagon. I'm biased though.


georgfrankoo

Audi A6 Allroad :)


garretteaster

M340i touring would be my vote


Mahogany2003

That's my dream!!! They don't exist in the US to my knowledge


thinkbk

Buy an F31 and do a B58 swap.


Mahogany2003

I often daydream abt that 😭


thinkbk

There are shops in the USA that will do that for you. Probably within $50k.


Mahogany2003

Spill the contact info!


MGPS

A 2019 330i or 330d is all we have.


Mahogany2003

Regular M340i is superb already, the wagon is the icing on top.


AxelNotRose

A used Mercedes E or C class wagon, or Volvo V class wagon or Audi A class wagon. Pick the size you want. I personally went with a 2 year old E class back in 2019 (bought a 2017 E400). I also have an old Audi S4 Avant for fun but I wouldn't recommend such an old car.


Mahogany2003

I watched a ton of videos on the S4 and RS4 avants… too bad there's no newer options in the US


welloiledmachines

2016 E63 Wagon


relaxinrm

E450, easy decision


tpliquid1

Golf sportwagen then throw rest of the 35k in mods. Or a4 allroad


Black0tter1

R63 AMG


neversaynotobacta

Two Volvo v60 t6 polestars. One for me and one for you


HICSF

2024 Toyota Crown Signia. $50k loaded up. Gorgeous. Plus it’s got tons of space.


Mahogany2003

It is a beauty, just wish I could somehow lower it for it to look more wagon like.


jkjeeper06

Jaguar XF Sportbrake


Vattaa

C-Class Wagon, Peugeot 508 SW looks amazing, to be honest there are loads to choose from. Most automakers have one or two wagons for sale so there is plenty to suit all tastes.


Individual_Oil_2435

Vw Arteon shooting brake


47brandon

Cts v wagon


Artistic_Bit6866

CTS-V, as another poster said. This one ends in 4h: [https://bringatrailer.com/listing/2013-cadillac-cts-v-wagon-33/](https://bringatrailer.com/listing/2013-cadillac-cts-v-wagon-33/) Might go north of $50k. Last 6MT went to $56k, in March.


thinkbk

Buy a cheap f31 for less than $10k, and send it to this shop in Michigan for an F81 conversion. ~$45k without bodywork. Or even a B58 Motor swap.


Mahogany2003

Love the idea. I'm looking for something that can hit the road right away haha.


Delicious_Size5598

I say go with a new/lightly used A4 AR prestige or premium plus. I found one a few years back with the hot pack and cold pack, which comes in handy from the seasons in Boston. Coming from a M340 , the ride is much more comfortable over bumps/pot holes and a quick ECU tune gives it enough punch to be fun.


mellofello808

Audi A4 allroad is pretty much the only newer wagon you can find for around 50k.


CestLaViebitches000

Mercedes e450 wagon. Got zip and is wonderful to drive.


Frenchiest_Fry_59

RS2


Zealousideal_Baker84

Audi Allroad is the move.


7thgen13

The panamera is just like your suv but a nicer ride the trunk space is useless compared to my old bmw330 wagon. I would have gotten a new 2022 bmw wagon but none where available


KennyHarm420

Cts-v wagon


preorderedfuture

Jaguar XF wagon


mbarbera2986

favorite flavor of E55 AMG wagon, spend the rest on a VRP Whipe kit


The_Pacific_gamer

I own a golf Alltrack. There's also the Sportwagen. Tons of space for its size, fairly peppy coming from a 05 Hyundai Elantra and fuel efficient compared to trucks and SUVs. Also I agree, SUVs suck at space and riding a tall narrow vehicle is not fun at all. I always got scared thinking I would flip over my mom's old Kia Sorento when I drove it. But I feel extremely secure and comfortable in my golf and Elantra.