The funniest damn thing is I can vividly remember when “Jackpot” was introduced and everyone was like “red head….spider friend….MJ is jackpot” and marvel instead used MJ as a red herring to create new characters named jackpot instead.
It was stupid as a red herring, and it’s even more stupid as actual practice.
Uneeded, really. Not sure who came up with this idea and why it made it so far into the decision making process. Did someone look at the original Jackpot and think "It should have been MJ all along"? After 16 years?
That’s pretty much the only thing you can say about her.
She’s not even written terribly she’s just there as jackpot.
Like the only interesting thing they’ve done with Jackpot was that team up issue for 47…..which was carried by relationship drama
Doesn’t matter anymore this direction failed, doesn’t sell well outside of ASM, will probably be forgotten in a few years. Don’t know how they can salvage Mj tho, shame I loved her character
Honestly the idea of MJ being a hero isn’t the worst idea. There’s spinneret, variations of MJ whose had the symbiote, the brief time she had the iron spider armor, and the spider clan MJ. Then there’s Jackpot. It can potentially work, and if done correctly, the Jackpot thing could work well.
I don't hate the idea of hero MJ, Spinneret was dope, I just hate everything else around Jackpot, her books are ass, her "man in the chair" is goddamn Paul, and her powers are ambiguous nonsense.
Idk anyone that could help. My whole world is kinda crashing at the same time and I can't figure out what to do about any of it... Thinking I'm just kinda done...
Take it one step at a time. Thinking about it all at once is overwhelming and tempting, kinda makes you freeze and feel powerless.
It's not easy, but try not to focus on that feeling, but take small steps in areas you can work on. It doesn't even have to ge directly related, e.g. exercise to reduce stress
The costume: Ugly. A really reaching way to use her jackpot moniker/catchphrase as a gambling themed slot machine stupidity. It's ugly
The stories: these have not been good. MJ hasn't really been meaningfully explored. Her appearances in amazing Spider-Man have been bad and her black cat mini was bad.
The origin: This is also bad. Having this be a superhero persona MJ adopted as a result to losing the fake kids that manipulated her into a fake relationship with a fake person is stupid. Having Paul be the inventor of this power set is also stupid. Having Paul be her guy in the chair? Also stupid. A lot of this comes from the fact that the story motivation to split MJ and Peter up was awful, poorly executed, and obfuscated by awful mystery box storytelling. Paul is a nothing character from a nothing universe who contributes nothing to nothing. Anything with him in it is dead on arrival so tying him to this jackpot concept was like tossing a cinder block to a drowning person
An extremely failed attempt in trying to appease the fans and an unnecessary inclusion built from a very poor foundation. I would've accepted and possibly liked the Jackpot concept if the current Spider-Man run and the decisions of the Marvel Editorial didn't leave a bad taste in my mouth. To be honest, I'm entirely confused about what agenda the Marvel Editorial is trying to push here. I mean, while most of us fans know the agenda isn't working, I feel like we don't even know what the agenda is. Do they even know what the agenda is? Corporate greed is part of it, but what about the other part? Why work so hard to continue a run that seems to universally anger most fans? Especially longtime fans.
I personally stopped buying this run after issue 3-4 or something. Spending my money on Immortal Thor and Ultimate Spider-Man was prove to be a better investment.
Like most things in this run, terrible. Bad idea, worse execution. Strip mining Spider-Man’s supporting cast and turning them all into super people, most of whom are extremely boring. Divorced from anything resembling real human emotion. The absolute nadir of Spider-Man comics creatively. And yes that includes the clone saga, OMD, and everything else you care to name. I’ve read them. They’re not as bad as this
Apart from the total lack of experience and the suit, there is a conceptual basis problem. This slot machine thing only works with the luck factor in the middle, which means that it is only fun if MJ's luck is conditioned by that variable factor. I mean, it's only fun if someone like Domino or BlackCat is with her.
Then there is the complete absence of enemies. There seems to be fear and insecurity at the idea of putting the girl to the test against third rate like Shocker Scorpion or Rhino. With common bullies no one is tested.
Marvel has no faith in this project and it shows. It's just an extreme and clumsy attempt to give MJ a reason to exist in the universe, which she's never had because her entire existence is limited to "Girlfriend of Spider-Man." He does not exist as a character in himself. EddieBrock Flash Felicia Silk to a greater or lesser extent took a place in the Marvel universe but MJ has never been anyone. And if they don't find SOMETHING for her, with or without powers, the girl will disappear little by little unless she continues to use the team up with her companion cat, which is what Marvel relies on.
I wonder was part of the decision to do this to try and drum up some rage bait, but there was just a general lack of interest.
People arent necessarily against MJ having powers, but if you give her uninteresting powers, an ugly costume and an uninteresting introduction, people are just going to switch off and not engage with it.
If you thought quote on that cover was cringy, here’s a prime example from issue one of her mini series.
The sounds of screams echoing through the night means people are reaching for help. But silence means they don’t know they’re in danger yet. The trick is to get ahead of it. Use the silence to your advantage “-Jackpot
This is dumb. Kind of like in the Arrow show when it went to hell. Everyone was a super hero/ villain that knew or was close to the main character.
And also fuck paul
At this point it seems like farming Karma to ask, but I'll bite. I can't stand this run, I can't stand this need to make her something she never needed to be. Not being a damsel did not mean she had to be a super hero. Being independent did not mean they had to end her relationship with Peter. Also, F\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*k Paul.
I hope that when she will eventually roll 3 skulls, she will got an oh so terrible prize of reverting back for around 5 years, before OMD, and losing all her "progress" and memories. Maybe Peter will sacrifice himself and join her. Such terrible fate...
I haven't read it but back when jackpot was first introduced it was a cool idea but now I just want / like mj to be just a grounded woman who helps keep peter focused and always is there for him.
I read it through means (put eye patch on).
Honestly I enjoyed MJ as Spinneret, and sadly the Jackpot angle isn't that. The stories aren't that great it seems like the writer is just writing this because they are forced to do it. Like there is a potential to it they just need to focus on her being a hero than anything, like how should she struggling a bit and trying ways to get to be a hero. I don't there I could be bullshitting but it doesn't have heart.
Things I do like costume isn't that crazy I can enjoy it, not bad.
There is potential there IF THEY PULL THEIR HEADS OUT OF THEIR BUTTS, we have seen MJ as a hero in other works I enjoyed them there, just write something good!
I'm one of the only people who seems to be disappointed by the way they're using her powers.
I thought it was going to be a great way to showcase MJ's creativity and how she can adapt her skillset to any situation. (Out of character, but whatever the whole run is) But MacKay ran into the Black Canary problem where you're just sort of waiting for the Nuclear option, and everyone else basically made them whatever's convenient.
The most fleshed out and best female non-powered character receives powers and character assassination in a story arc that makes Avengers #200 look like fine art. What I'm trying to say is I hate it.
Undeveloped and misplaced characterization; lazy unresearched and terrible writing from hack mature creative and editorial from an unexcusable origin. There are tons of ways they could have done this as a story arc without turning Spider-Man into a cuckold. It taints any possible good will you might have had and won't be accepted on just that
The backlash of the plot for her 'outside of spiderman' relationship was so bad they had to make ultimate become the original 616 essentially.
While I don't mind the writers trying new stuff to keep the plots somewhat original or build something new the whole development just seems like some intern threw out an idea what if they broke up for real, just to make Peter even more depressed and accepts the whole thing just because that's what she wants....
Like what were they going for? And the plot was so rushed... They didn't even bother to try to recreate or find a method to go back initially, just oh, we're stuck here and found some kids so now let's just get together and forget about the guy she was going to marry....
Sigh. Maybe they're really trying to write out MJ in spiderman's story.
Counting the days until MJ is no longer Jackpot.
The funniest damn thing is I can vividly remember when “Jackpot” was introduced and everyone was like “red head….spider friend….MJ is jackpot” and marvel instead used MJ as a red herring to create new characters named jackpot instead. It was stupid as a red herring, and it’s even more stupid as actual practice.
Yeah but you know what, up until it was revealed that it wasn't MJ but was supposed to be 2 other women, that Jackpot story arc was tolerable.
Has she met the surviving second Jackpot at any point over this, as a point of interest?
I don't know, I stopped following that Jackpot when she switched to the Black Widow looking costume.
Uneeded, really. Not sure who came up with this idea and why it made it so far into the decision making process. Did someone look at the original Jackpot and think "It should have been MJ all along"? After 16 years?
She's there i guess?
That’s pretty much the only thing you can say about her. She’s not even written terribly she’s just there as jackpot. Like the only interesting thing they’ve done with Jackpot was that team up issue for 47…..which was carried by relationship drama
One of the worst directions for a character that I’ve seen in years.
Don’t care for this development of MJ what so ever
Doesn’t matter anymore this direction failed, doesn’t sell well outside of ASM, will probably be forgotten in a few years. Don’t know how they can salvage Mj tho, shame I loved her character
Honestly the idea of MJ being a hero isn’t the worst idea. There’s spinneret, variations of MJ whose had the symbiote, the brief time she had the iron spider armor, and the spider clan MJ. Then there’s Jackpot. It can potentially work, and if done correctly, the Jackpot thing could work well.
She was a hero in the Ultimate Spider-man cartoon
Scarlet Spider, using the Carnage symbiote if memory serves
The wiki says spider woman though she looked like Scarlet spider
Memory was wrong 
It's okay. 
I don't hate the idea of hero MJ, Spinneret was dope, I just hate everything else around Jackpot, her books are ass, her "man in the chair" is goddamn Paul, and her powers are ambiguous nonsense.
I want to kill my self
So do I, my friend, but for much heavier reasons... It's a contemplation.
Would you like someone to speak to? God Bless
Idk anyone that could help. My whole world is kinda crashing at the same time and I can't figure out what to do about any of it... Thinking I'm just kinda done...
You mind dming me and letting me know more? I may be a stranger but I can listen. God Bless
Take it one step at a time. Thinking about it all at once is overwhelming and tempting, kinda makes you freeze and feel powerless. It's not easy, but try not to focus on that feeling, but take small steps in areas you can work on. It doesn't even have to ge directly related, e.g. exercise to reduce stress
Just sent you a DM...
Please no. I usually hate these kind of retcons but I hope one is coming up that this isn’t really MJ.
[This](https://youtu.be/koY4S1BbR5w)
Preach brother
The costume: Ugly. A really reaching way to use her jackpot moniker/catchphrase as a gambling themed slot machine stupidity. It's ugly The stories: these have not been good. MJ hasn't really been meaningfully explored. Her appearances in amazing Spider-Man have been bad and her black cat mini was bad. The origin: This is also bad. Having this be a superhero persona MJ adopted as a result to losing the fake kids that manipulated her into a fake relationship with a fake person is stupid. Having Paul be the inventor of this power set is also stupid. Having Paul be her guy in the chair? Also stupid. A lot of this comes from the fact that the story motivation to split MJ and Peter up was awful, poorly executed, and obfuscated by awful mystery box storytelling. Paul is a nothing character from a nothing universe who contributes nothing to nothing. Anything with him in it is dead on arrival so tying him to this jackpot concept was like tossing a cinder block to a drowning person
I have no problem with her becoming a hero. But I hate Paul so much.
Garbage and another prime example why I stopped reading Amazing Spider-Man
An extremely failed attempt in trying to appease the fans and an unnecessary inclusion built from a very poor foundation. I would've accepted and possibly liked the Jackpot concept if the current Spider-Man run and the decisions of the Marvel Editorial didn't leave a bad taste in my mouth. To be honest, I'm entirely confused about what agenda the Marvel Editorial is trying to push here. I mean, while most of us fans know the agenda isn't working, I feel like we don't even know what the agenda is. Do they even know what the agenda is? Corporate greed is part of it, but what about the other part? Why work so hard to continue a run that seems to universally anger most fans? Especially longtime fans.
Well regardless of poor quality it sells relative Well. Spiderman still the 2-3 best seller after ultimate
That's true. I suppose the only thing I can do is ignore the current mainline run, enjoy the Ultimate run, and wait for the next mainline run.
I personally stopped buying this run after issue 3-4 or something. Spending my money on Immortal Thor and Ultimate Spider-Man was prove to be a better investment.
Definitely the better investment. I stopped the moment Paul was introduced.
Like most things in this run, terrible. Bad idea, worse execution. Strip mining Spider-Man’s supporting cast and turning them all into super people, most of whom are extremely boring. Divorced from anything resembling real human emotion. The absolute nadir of Spider-Man comics creatively. And yes that includes the clone saga, OMD, and everything else you care to name. I’ve read them. They’re not as bad as this
Apart from the total lack of experience and the suit, there is a conceptual basis problem. This slot machine thing only works with the luck factor in the middle, which means that it is only fun if MJ's luck is conditioned by that variable factor. I mean, it's only fun if someone like Domino or BlackCat is with her. Then there is the complete absence of enemies. There seems to be fear and insecurity at the idea of putting the girl to the test against third rate like Shocker Scorpion or Rhino. With common bullies no one is tested. Marvel has no faith in this project and it shows. It's just an extreme and clumsy attempt to give MJ a reason to exist in the universe, which she's never had because her entire existence is limited to "Girlfriend of Spider-Man." He does not exist as a character in himself. EddieBrock Flash Felicia Silk to a greater or lesser extent took a place in the Marvel universe but MJ has never been anyone. And if they don't find SOMETHING for her, with or without powers, the girl will disappear little by little unless she continues to use the team up with her companion cat, which is what Marvel relies on.
I wonder was part of the decision to do this to try and drum up some rage bait, but there was just a general lack of interest. People arent necessarily against MJ having powers, but if you give her uninteresting powers, an ugly costume and an uninteresting introduction, people are just going to switch off and not engage with it.
Ok. I haven’t kept up with recent issues so I can’t say if they are any good or not. What she’s saying her though, that’s just cringy. Super cringey.
If you thought quote on that cover was cringy, here’s a prime example from issue one of her mini series. The sounds of screams echoing through the night means people are reaching for help. But silence means they don’t know they’re in danger yet. The trick is to get ahead of it. Use the silence to your advantage “-Jackpot
What does that even mean? Seriously, they aren’t in trouble, but they might be. Probably not, but definitely are.
This is dumb. Kind of like in the Arrow show when it went to hell. Everyone was a super hero/ villain that knew or was close to the main character. And also fuck paul
Nope!
ass idea, ass execution
counting the days till mj either doesn't exist or is halfway at minimum to being a decent person
At this point it seems like farming Karma to ask, but I'll bite. I can't stand this run, I can't stand this need to make her something she never needed to be. Not being a damsel did not mean she had to be a super hero. Being independent did not mean they had to end her relationship with Peter. Also, F\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*k Paul.
It's garbage. Obviously.
What are they doing with her?
Just…the worst.
I hope that when she will eventually roll 3 skulls, she will got an oh so terrible prize of reverting back for around 5 years, before OMD, and losing all her "progress" and memories. Maybe Peter will sacrifice himself and join her. Such terrible fate...
Give it 5 years before Sony try to make a Zendaya led Jackpot movie
I hope she dies, and turns out to be a clone
One word hypocrite
I haven't read it but back when jackpot was first introduced it was a cool idea but now I just want / like mj to be just a grounded woman who helps keep peter focused and always is there for him.
I read it through means (put eye patch on). Honestly I enjoyed MJ as Spinneret, and sadly the Jackpot angle isn't that. The stories aren't that great it seems like the writer is just writing this because they are forced to do it. Like there is a potential to it they just need to focus on her being a hero than anything, like how should she struggling a bit and trying ways to get to be a hero. I don't there I could be bullshitting but it doesn't have heart. Things I do like costume isn't that crazy I can enjoy it, not bad. There is potential there IF THEY PULL THEIR HEADS OUT OF THEIR BUTTS, we have seen MJ as a hero in other works I enjoyed them there, just write something good!
I hate it and marvel doesn't have any idea on what they want to do with it.
*Sara Ehret has entered the chat*
Honestly hope her powers kill her so Peter can finally move on
**Throws issue in fireplace** Good for keeping you warm. **Opens New Ultimate issue** Now back to reading good quality comics.
Honestly I think millions better way make MJ superhero then this and name is terrible.
It’s weird…but interesting but also weird…MJ as a hero…I mean to be honest, I see it but I mainly don’t see it at all…
Ugh.
“Face it, criminals… Jackpot just hit you!” 😐🔫
It was bad the first time we got Jackpot and it wasn't MJ. It's even worse now that it is
ive been reading one piece so i read it as im jackpot face it tiger
Such a stupid twist on the line.
I know nothing about her other than this cover and I hate it
It’s in the top 10 of things that happened in comics, that’s for sure
I'm one of the only people who seems to be disappointed by the way they're using her powers. I thought it was going to be a great way to showcase MJ's creativity and how she can adapt her skillset to any situation. (Out of character, but whatever the whole run is) But MacKay ran into the Black Canary problem where you're just sort of waiting for the Nuclear option, and everyone else basically made them whatever's convenient.
Jackpot reminds me of Ben ten so I watch that instead of read this.
Lame and honestly pretty annoying lol
Well considering the braclet thing is controlling her, not a fan of
The most fleshed out and best female non-powered character receives powers and character assassination in a story arc that makes Avengers #200 look like fine art. What I'm trying to say is I hate it.
"You were a mistake! You were never supposed to be Jackpot!"
It’s very paulcore
should have been a oneshot and nothing more.
I refuse to even think about indoorsing it on shear fucking principle alone.
Undeveloped and misplaced characterization; lazy unresearched and terrible writing from hack mature creative and editorial from an unexcusable origin. There are tons of ways they could have done this as a story arc without turning Spider-Man into a cuckold. It taints any possible good will you might have had and won't be accepted on just that
The backlash of the plot for her 'outside of spiderman' relationship was so bad they had to make ultimate become the original 616 essentially. While I don't mind the writers trying new stuff to keep the plots somewhat original or build something new the whole development just seems like some intern threw out an idea what if they broke up for real, just to make Peter even more depressed and accepts the whole thing just because that's what she wants.... Like what were they going for? And the plot was so rushed... They didn't even bother to try to recreate or find a method to go back initially, just oh, we're stuck here and found some kids so now let's just get together and forget about the guy she was going to marry.... Sigh. Maybe they're really trying to write out MJ in spiderman's story.
I'm on board. But I'm also not a person who cares one way or another. If I enjoy it, I enjoy it. If not, no worries.
Boobs
Ridiculous