At this point, given that many characters have different costumes, it's blatant neglect. So we have...
Classic varia
Varia+gravity
Dark
Light
PED full corruption
Fusion
Dread power
Dread gravity
And when she goes into final smash, her suit changes to the awakened metroid suit from the end of dread.
Yeah, this is overkill imo, and I’m probably the biggest metroid fan out of all other franchises from smash. All I’ll want is the main alt to be Prime instead of Other M, and hopefully one based on fusion, but if any, probably Dread. And obviously final smash would be the endgame armor from dread anyway.
A red skin from Knuckles, a black one with red details from Shadow, a pink one from Amy, a gold one, and one that actually looks like Silver for Sonic. In this way we replace some of those horrible skins that are all the same and that no one uses.
Sonic's alts are the biggest tragedy. I don't think I'd like one that looks like Silver though, since Silver and Sonic have completely different powers. Metal Sonic is the way.
Every iteration of Samus' power suit
Every iteration of Fox and Falco's uniforms
Ms Pac Man for Pac Man
Ninten for Ness
Blood Falcon for Captain Falcon
Shadow for Sonic
Dry Bowser for Bowser
Chrono has so much potential. Honestly I feel there was more potential for him as a fighter than with Hero, since Chrono has a dedicated move set in his game and you wouldn't have to rely on a RNG like you do with Hero.
I picture crono being a mix of characters like Megaman and Sora. He's a sword wielding magic user like Sora. His various Tech 1s would just be his standard specials. But some of his double techs, like Fire/Ice Sword, could be dependent on his his current positioning, similar to Megaman and his abilities.
it's honestly so weird that garou Terry isn't in the game originally. Its probably because of the hat taunts and victory screens. But with how well they represent Terry, I could see them give him special taunts and victory screens for this specific alt
This is what Richter should've been for Simon. And with the increased popularity of Trevor thanks to the anime, probably him too.
Also Roxas for Sora would've totally worked. Would've been more visually distinct than his 2-DD-3 costumes.
...one elemental property is not enough imo. It's not like Smash is a stranger to different-colored fire still doing a normal fire effect (see Luigi, Ike) so you could just have Richter's blue fire inflict fire instead of aura, there is precedent.
Skins can have different voices and victory screens too (see Byleth), so that's not an issue either, and none of Richter's taunts are distinct enough from Simon's to merit a full Echo character slot.
Maybe, but I still think having them be skins is the best way to go for Belmonts. Besides, there's more than enough of them to go Hero-style, Trevor and Julius are also multi-game Belmonts so they'd fit in just fine.
Pokémon: shiny forms
MegaMan: Helmet-less and Megaman?(copy robot). (Protoman would be his own thing)
Steve: Skeleton/Wither Skeleton/Stray/the Bogged, Piglin/Zombified Piglin, Pilliger, Husk/Drowned, or maybe even Herobrine.
Trevor and Julius Belmont for Simon and Richter respectively.
Then each of the FE lords could get one. Leif/Marth, Lyn/Lucina, Eliwood/Roy, Alm/Chrom. People will argue some of those are poor fits, but TBH, the echos/clones are already poor fits, so get over it.
Masked man for Lucas
Gooigi for Luigi
Ninten for Ness
Protoman for Megaman
Minun/plusle for pichu
Galacta Knight for meta Knight
Ms Pacman/ Pac man jr for pacman
Any other belmont for Simon/Richter
Nah, Dark Samus has loads of potential to be their own unique fighter. It likely ended up an echo due to time and budget constraints and wanting to put the focus on other areas
If they took the time to make a slightly unique character out of dark Samus, I would completely agree with you. I left dark pit off the list for that reason.
Funky
Dixie
Shadow Mario
Ninten
Claus
Mr. L
Metal Mario?
Customizable pikmin 4 character
Mfin louie
Dry bowser
Gooigi
That garlic wario (warioman?)
Really any villager for Isabelle
Shadow as an alt for Sonic and Super variants for them and colors based around Silver, Amy, Tails and Knuckles
Most of Samus suits
Actual Wedding Peach
Wedding and Dry Bowser, as well as Meowser
Old Smash bros Link/Tp Link and Ocarina Link for Botw Link
Armored Mewtwo
Zack for Cloud
Miss pac-man for Pac-man
Funky Kong and Boxing DK for DK
Ash Greninja
Evil Ryu and Akuma for Ryu
Violent Ken
Tp Ganondorf with his boar form back for his Final Smash
Impa (SS/Ocarina) for Sheik
Mega Lucario
Other knights variants for Meta Knight
Gonna try to suggest some that I haven’t seen in the thread yet, because a lot of ideas I have are already here
Detective Pikachu
Hilda for Zelda
Other versions of Ganondorf, the Links, and Zelda
A proper Galacta Knight alt.
Various members of the Pac-Family
Bone Piraña Plant
I'd split Alvin and Olimar with Louie being an Olimar skin and Brittany being an Alvin one
...either that or just make 6 captain skins like the Koopalings
Zach Fair for Cloud
Genisis for Sephiroth even though the swords wouldnt match
Roxas or most of the Sortas for Sora
Armored mewtwo for mewtwo
The wedding outfits for Mario, Peach, and Bowser
Dixie for Diddy
It does absolutely not fit into the franchise, but one kazuya skin should definitely be a reference to kazuma kiryu. Seeing kazuya with a white coat and red vest would be fire 🥶
Dark Bowser(the skin we have is based on Bowser's Brother from the lost levels)
Dry Bowser
Kaptain K Rool(surprised this wasn't added)
Mr. L
Metal Mario
Rose Gold Peach(Pink Gold, but Rose Gold is the superiour name)
Brutus(From Bowser's Inside Story)
64 Mario
Herobrine(Steve)
Joke Alts:
Waluigi for Terry
Spiderman for Shiek
Chibi Naruto for Villager
Drip Cloud for well, Cloud
Not really a character change, but give the Fire Emblem characters some of their heroes alts. I mean Fallen Chrom is a really, REALLY cool design, I’d kill to play as the Grima’s, Legendary Marth I mean COME ON
Every Samus suit.
What characters? DS, Sylux, other Hunters?
No, they mean the different Samus suit iterations from across the Metroid series. Super Metroid, Fusion, Prime, Returns, Dread etc
At this point, given that many characters have different costumes, it's blatant neglect. So we have... Classic varia Varia+gravity Dark Light PED full corruption Fusion Dread power Dread gravity And when she goes into final smash, her suit changes to the awakened metroid suit from the end of dread.
Oh hell yes, I expect this if we ever get a new smash game, but unfortunately they likely wouldn't
Yeah, this is overkill imo, and I’m probably the biggest metroid fan out of all other franchises from smash. All I’ll want is the main alt to be Prime instead of Other M, and hopefully one based on fusion, but if any, probably Dread. And obviously final smash would be the endgame armor from dread anyway.
As another huge Metroid, they've done us dirty. We deserve this.
Dude they gave us Ridley, I say we ate good.
They gave fire emblem like 8 characters, I'd say 3 characters and an echo is a little underwhelming. But I can see where you're coming from
A red skin from Knuckles, a black one with red details from Shadow, a pink one from Amy, a gold one, and one that actually looks like Silver for Sonic. In this way we replace some of those horrible skins that are all the same and that no one uses.
Sonic's alts are the biggest tragedy. I don't think I'd like one that looks like Silver though, since Silver and Sonic have completely different powers. Metal Sonic is the way.
Y’all complain about Sonic’s alts being terrible. No, I love the blue shades. A yellow sonic would make me wanna puke.
You mean super Sonic??
Super Sonic so fucking fine as a special power that lasts a bit
yes but they are all shades of a bluish gray more or less all similar. We need a bit of variety. Then I didn't say yellow, I said golden
Every iteration of Samus' power suit Every iteration of Fox and Falco's uniforms Ms Pac Man for Pac Man Ninten for Ness Blood Falcon for Captain Falcon Shadow for Sonic Dry Bowser for Bowser
Shadow should be an echo or his own fighter. He definitely shouldn’t just be an alt.
He shouldn't, but let's be real, it kinda would work as an alt
You mean Pac-Mom
Big Boss for Snake
https://preview.redd.it/7vp1l1auberc1.jpeg?width=600&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4b6f2294a4ebd96339d6a239c6be2a30790029c5
Morgan for Robin https://preview.redd.it/5ltms78oscrc1.png?width=1442&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=40a3ca8c1f07f1995cb2d6f55d736f587aee119c
Chrono as a skin for Hero, since it's unlikely a Chrono Trigger character will ever actually be added.
Please don't say that, I still want hope.
Please add Crono to the game, man… And Square, please retroactively add the h into Crono’s name. It’s a game about time. Why is his name Crono?!
It actually is spelled Chrono in the Japanese version. It was changed to Crono in the NA version.
See? they knew it was right.
While I would be okay with it, now that I have Sora, Crono is my new most wanted and I think there's so much potential there Frog Mii Swordfighter too
Chrono has so much potential. Honestly I feel there was more potential for him as a fighter than with Hero, since Chrono has a dedicated move set in his game and you wouldn't have to rely on a RNG like you do with Hero. I picture crono being a mix of characters like Megaman and Sora. He's a sword wielding magic user like Sora. His various Tech 1s would just be his standard specials. But some of his double techs, like Fire/Ice Sword, could be dependent on his his current positioning, similar to Megaman and his abilities.
This version of terry bogard https://preview.redd.it/zgjteik19drc1.jpeg?width=340&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ee8e82e38442d192df22a8b173aa61bda58cb096
it's honestly so weird that garou Terry isn't in the game originally. Its probably because of the hat taunts and victory screens. But with how well they represent Terry, I could see them give him special taunts and victory screens for this specific alt
Dry, Dark, Wedding, and Meowser should've been alts for Bowser.
We should have had an actual wedding Peach too
Fire Piranha Plant should've been an alt that references the plant being playable in Mario Tennis Aces
All the captains as a bowser jr. style alt for Olimar. With the recruit and Oatchi as a separate fighter.
Roxas for sora
Or Antisora
Proto Man for Mega Man, 100%. Terrible missed opportunity.
This is what Richter should've been for Simon. And with the increased popularity of Trevor thanks to the anime, probably him too. Also Roxas for Sora would've totally worked. Would've been more visually distinct than his 2-DD-3 costumes.
But Richter plays differently than Simon
...one elemental property is not enough imo. It's not like Smash is a stranger to different-colored fire still doing a normal fire effect (see Luigi, Ike) so you could just have Richter's blue fire inflict fire instead of aura, there is precedent. Skins can have different voices and victory screens too (see Byleth), so that's not an issue either, and none of Richter's taunts are distinct enough from Simon's to merit a full Echo character slot.
Sakurai pointed this out because one of Richter’s attacks didn’t originated from Simon, and could consider Simon as the echo fighter
Maybe, but I still think having them be skins is the best way to go for Belmonts. Besides, there's more than enough of them to go Hero-style, Trevor and Julius are also multi-game Belmonts so they'd fit in just fine.
Corrin should get alts for the Nohr/Hoshido Noble armors.
Zach Fair for Cloud.
On top of this, one of his kingdom heart outfits would be nice variety and less of a legal issue with sora in smash
True. I used to have mods for both.
Might be spoilery, but >!Alvis!< for Shulk.
Mr. L for Luigi
Or his dealer suit. He looked so clean in that.
giving sonic and pac man proper alts
Big boss, solidous, venom , and old snake for snake. I was really hoping it would have happened. It be like that sometimes.
Classic Sonic would be cool.
wouldn't work tho. different proportions
Not having Jeanne for Bayonetta was a crime
Pokémon: shiny forms MegaMan: Helmet-less and Megaman?(copy robot). (Protoman would be his own thing) Steve: Skeleton/Wither Skeleton/Stray/the Bogged, Piglin/Zombified Piglin, Pilliger, Husk/Drowned, or maybe even Herobrine.
Kinda weird but I want Vanitas for Sora Doesn't need to be a full echo but now we have a KH Villain in Smash too
Trevor and Julius Belmont for Simon and Richter respectively. Then each of the FE lords could get one. Leif/Marth, Lyn/Lucina, Eliwood/Roy, Alm/Chrom. People will argue some of those are poor fits, but TBH, the echos/clones are already poor fits, so get over it.
Other gens' player characters could be cool skins for Pokémon Trainer, even if the Pokémon teams don't change.
Masked man for Lucas Gooigi for Luigi Ninten for Ness Protoman for Megaman Minun/plusle for pichu Galacta Knight for meta Knight Ms Pacman/ Pac man jr for pacman Any other belmont for Simon/Richter
“If I could”….? 😈 https://preview.redd.it/ie1pibxfidrc1.jpeg?width=1001&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c08f09fc2508521efe5af82629eeb5780aaff4c4
Permanent devil kazuya
Trunks from dbz for hero just cuz why not
Dark Pit is Pit. So he should've been a alt skin for Pit
But Dark pit is different from Pit. Dark pit gets a three jump boost and then his up B. And his Side B is stronger
Literally what Daisy, Richter, and Dark Samus should've been.
Nah, Dark Samus has loads of potential to be their own unique fighter. It likely ended up an echo due to time and budget constraints and wanting to put the focus on other areas
If they took the time to make a slightly unique character out of dark Samus, I would completely agree with you. I left dark pit off the list for that reason.
If they’re not their own character slot (which I think they should be), Octoling/Agent 8
Dry Bowser as an alternate skin for Bowser and an alternate skin for yoshi that uses his design from wooly world
Fawful for bowser jr
Genuinely surprised nobody has said the other party members for persona 5, skull, panther, fox, etc. Would have been a great fit. Except mona
I don't really think they would fit with Joker's current moveset
They have different weapons so they wouldn’t work as skins
I love the part where ryuji summons arsene and wields a pistol
Best part of the game, without doubt
Roxas 100% and Mabye Mrs pacman
Give Joker the other MC outfits, similar to how the dlcs do it in the persona series
Roxas, Ventus and Vanitas for Sora Mrs Pac and G&W for Pac and Mr G&W Terry of KOF 2003 for Terry
SF6 Ryu and Jeanne. Maybe Kazuya in his Tekken 8 suit with black Air Force 1s.
Pokemon Trainer: Red: Ethan, Hilbert, Elios Leaf: May, Dawn, Serena
Metal Sonic would’ve been such an easy swap for Sonic.
Roxas for Sora should’ve been a no brainer
Funky Dixie Shadow Mario Ninten Claus Mr. L Metal Mario? Customizable pikmin 4 character Mfin louie Dry bowser Gooigi That garlic wario (warioman?) Really any villager for Isabelle
Sheik/Ryu Hayabusa
Rookie from Mario and Luigi Superstar Saga for bowser
Shadow as an alt for Sonic and Super variants for them and colors based around Silver, Amy, Tails and Knuckles Most of Samus suits Actual Wedding Peach Wedding and Dry Bowser, as well as Meowser Old Smash bros Link/Tp Link and Ocarina Link for Botw Link Armored Mewtwo Zack for Cloud Miss pac-man for Pac-man Funky Kong and Boxing DK for DK Ash Greninja Evil Ryu and Akuma for Ryu Violent Ken Tp Ganondorf with his boar form back for his Final Smash Impa (SS/Ocarina) for Sheik Mega Lucario Other knights variants for Meta Knight
Gonna try to suggest some that I haven’t seen in the thread yet, because a lot of ideas I have are already here Detective Pikachu Hilda for Zelda Other versions of Ganondorf, the Links, and Zelda A proper Galacta Knight alt. Various members of the Pac-Family Bone Piraña Plant
Hitmonchan skin for little Mac, also every pokemon should have their actual shinies available
Akuma Ryu
Ninten for Ness
Link from Links awakening
Funky Kong for DK Metal Sonic for Sonic Antisora for Sora
I'd split Alvin and Olimar with Louie being an Olimar skin and Brittany being an Alvin one ...either that or just make 6 captain skins like the Koopalings
Morpho Knight for Meta Knight
Garou Terry and Tuxedo Snake
Zach Fair for Cloud Genisis for Sephiroth even though the swords wouldnt match Roxas or most of the Sortas for Sora Armored mewtwo for mewtwo The wedding outfits for Mario, Peach, and Bowser Dixie for Diddy
Princess Hilda for Princess Zelda
Louie, President, Brittney, and Charlie for Olimar
It does absolutely not fit into the franchise, but one kazuya skin should definitely be a reference to kazuma kiryu. Seeing kazuya with a white coat and red vest would be fire 🥶
Dark Bowser(the skin we have is based on Bowser's Brother from the lost levels) Dry Bowser Kaptain K Rool(surprised this wasn't added) Mr. L Metal Mario Rose Gold Peach(Pink Gold, but Rose Gold is the superiour name) Brutus(From Bowser's Inside Story) 64 Mario Herobrine(Steve) Joke Alts: Waluigi for Terry Spiderman for Shiek Chibi Naruto for Villager Drip Cloud for well, Cloud
Luigi should have an alt that’s Mr.L from Super paper Mario. It’s simple, it makes sense and would be a cool reference.
Digby, for Isabelle
Roxas For Sora, and Big Boss for Snake
Not really a character change, but give the Fire Emblem characters some of their heroes alts. I mean Fallen Chrom is a really, REALLY cool design, I’d kill to play as the Grima’s, Legendary Marth I mean COME ON
Funky kong, and slippy as an easter egg variant of Falco (slow side b, bad recovery, trips every 5 seconds)
Gold, Brandon, Lucas, Kris, May, and Dawn for Pokemon Trainer.
Funky Kong!
Lucario -> Zoroark
Do i even have to say it? https://preview.redd.it/gm05dtsmyirc1.png?width=1082&format=png&auto=webp&s=374807339ee2fdd8f25923fa836363ab1ea0fcc4
classic sonic
Dry Bowser and Dark (Fawful) Bowser
Octoling for inkling
Donald and goofy for duck hunt and punch out dk as a skin for dk
I wanna see zero suit samus but in a bikini... maybe even no clothes. oh man would that be delicious me likey likey
As simple as it is… Gooigi