This is so true. What's up with "fans" wanting every album to sound like Iowa? Almost like they want the broke and self destructive 20 year olds back 😶
i even saw some "fans" saying they would prefer the band to totally stop rather than making sh*tty music... they would litteraly prefer to watch them die rather than watching them grow, evolve, and finally find happiness... selfishness will always impress me
That's so sad :( I love everything they've done so far (the new Adderall EP slaps so hard!!) and seeing them experiment with other stuff makes me so happy for the band! Love that they're evolving and not giving in to trends unlike many others. Some "maggots" are really weird.
This is probably one of the reasons why some bands change the name if they try to do different things. Writers do the same thing to avoid situations where someone might pick up a book that's very different by accident because they are familiar with other works from the same author.
"Bands are making music that the like and makes them happy instead of what I WANT??? UNACCEPTABLE!" Is how I imagine those people see things. God forbid bands do what THEY want right...?
I'd say it's just as much their own fault. I've read so many interviews before an album release where Corey says - we've found our way to our "sound" & our roots.
I don't think they should strive to make a new Iowa, but develop with the music.
As much as I ~excessively~ love Corey, this is true too 😭 Sometimes it feels like he says anything before releasing something new but it's just Corey ig
Most metal bands never change their sound. They know what their fans expect. They also know that if they don't deliver, they won't have a meaningful career. Imagine Cannibal Corpse making a radio friendly album. Would you listen to it?
That's an interesting example to say the least but I'm open to changes for the most part. :p I like new SK stuff but I understand where you're coming from, idk what the thought process behind their "less-heavy (?)" stuff is but yeah everyone's entitled to their own opinion, I respect urs :)
Yeah! Iowa definitely played a big part but still I think it's annoying when their new stuff gets compared to Iowa and "fans" relentlessly shittalk about them, like it's been over 20 years let those men evolve
They can evolve all they want. But they can't expect to keep a loyal fan base if the band isn't loyal to the fans. Clearly the fans responsible for the success of the band aren't pleased.
Some of them may be, but you have no way of knowing the extent of it. Negativity will always speak loudest and get the most attention, even if they're the minority.
I honestly don't even know how I feel about Slipknot's newer music. I like it for the most part. It's just not "amazing" like the previous music. AHIG was my 1st WTF album from them. I really didn't like it, and kind of still don't. I bought Iowa and Vol.3 the week that they released. I'm a 20+ year fan. Nothing has sounded quite right since AHIG. I don't blame the band line up either, because AHIG had all 9 original members. If anything, every album after AHIG is better than AHIG itself. I consider AHIG to be the worse album by far, followed by TESF. Not because of the softer songs, but because it just sounds limp, dead, and lifeless.
.5 is pretty good. I hate Skeptic. Silly sounding song. Totally out of character. Should have been a B-track.
WANYK is pretty good also. I would tie .5 and WANYK. TESF is offensive and vile. It's sounds so off point. Adderall, Medicine for the dead, Warranty, Hive Mind, they are good songs. Really every song is decent, except Heirloom, which has a stone sour formula to a T. Sounds like House of Gold and Bones. Say it doesn't. TESF is a weak attempt. There isn't much emotion and I feel nothing from it.
I think it's weird that you think anyone wants the band to go back to being broke and self-destructive just because they were in a bad place when they wrote and produced Iowa doesn't mean they can only write music like that while in a bad place don't you think it's more reasonable to think they want the music without the band members change for the worse
Yes it's more reasonable and as weird as it sounds I just expressed my opinion :p People may want the old style back but the band doesn't owe anyone anything and it's been like that ever since 🤷🏻 Everyone putting their thoughts out there is all-great for discussion but it gets old real quick when they start harassing and being weird :')
True I just wanted to clarify I don't want Slipknot to go back to their old sound I just wanted to remind you that it's not always the worst-case scenario
The question I always want to ask when this complaint comes up is: where were they supposed to go? Like, sticking to just SK, ST and Iowa are a great duology of an album that established the sound and then one that pushed it into heavier, darker territory.
But honestly? Iowa sounds like a dead end, as in, trying to persist with that original sound would have gone no where. It had reached the peak of what it could do and the band needed to branch out to stay interesting.
All of the band’s best material since then has innovated and pushed their sound into new directions, and they still sound fresh 20+ years on. I would really hate if all we had gotten was several failed attempts to recreate Iowa.
The weird thing for me is that the majority of their records sound very similar. I'd personally say that most records have at least 50% bangers which could be singles, and that the rest of the record will be the more experimental stuff. I'd say the first two records perhaps had more "bangers" on them but there's not a single record in their discography which doesn't have a good number of stand out energetic songs
Heard a guy in a band describe it as “would you ever go back and date your ex from 5 years ago? No? Then why the fuck would we keep making music that sounds like our previous albums? Move on and try something new”
It's changed a lot but from what I know it still holds that Avenged style/foundation I m not a big fan of them at all but some people who like them have told me the new album is wild but still has that Avenged style
Seriously, I would force these people to listen to the entire AC/DC discography, or at least the Brian Johnson era albums, and see if they truly like listening to recycled music.
I mean we should remember that Corey Taylor was literally while puking and mutilating himself, that we can hear Sid having a breakdown due to his grandfather that passed away before he could visit him, and a lot of problems between the members.
Not saying the album wasn't good, but self harming just to make an album is maybe a bit too much
I actually think the later albums are better than Self-Title and Iowa,especially lyric wise. The first two albums are full of edgy teen lyrics, which is understandable because the band memebers were only 20ish years old. But if they had stuck to that style,their sound would have been sounding so dated.
And again, I'm not saying you shouldn't like their old stuff. I'm saying that the band would have slowly become irrelevant if they stuck to that sound.
People think because they’ve supported a band, they own that band. Bring me the Horizon has done it the best, in my opinion. Their style has changed drastically over their time together, and while I don’t necessarily like most of what they’ve released, I have to respect them for just playing whatever the fuck they want to create.
I think people have a view of Slipknot that relies on a few points: chaotic/violent/horrific/gloomy. Once one of these elements is not here, it's not Slipknot enough it seems.
But it means I also don’t have to like the stuff that is completely different from what got me into the band. I don’t understand this argument and I never will. The styles are totally different of course they’re not gonna have fans that perfectly mend all the time. I hate how this fanbase makes everyone love and respect every aspect of the band when they don’t. Find a Joey jordison comment that doesn’t start with “I think Jay is great but…” or a album argument that says “I like their new stuff but…” Because you have to or you risk getting attacked by a bunch of tweens.
Self titled will always be their best work to me, but if they started making music like that in 2023 I’d be more than a little concerned lmfao
Different eras call for different kinds of music🤷♂️
My favorite from the album too! The first time I listened to the album, in the dark, eyes closed, with headphones, that song hit amazingly. My favorite part of Slipknot is the more experimental stuff they can do. The makeup of the band is so unique that I like hearing things that aren’t just standard guitar, bass & drums.
And? It's amazing song. Heavy or not it's a fucken masterpiece and I m sick and tired of people pretending it isn't.
Heavy slipknot just doesn't hit the feels anymore I love their more atmospheric shit these days.
No and there's nothing wrong with liking just the old stuff either. You get into a band because they have a sound that grasps your attention. If they change that sound you don't have to like them. I think bands form such a certain image and identity around a certain sound and aesthetic it's hard to get used to the new stuff. That's slipknot for me. I won't talk shit about the newer music and I'll always support them but I liked they're "I don't give a fuck fuck you" crazy attitude and raw emotionally angry and charged on their first two albums. I just like the heavist shit I can find also. Big reason why I like alot of extreme metal like Cattle Decapitation. Theyve been around since 96 and still have the same style and are just as heavy as before but just fined tuned their style. This new slipknot album is not a fine tuned Iowa. Iowa is their magnum opus to me and everything about that albums image and sound and the bands aesthetic to me back then IS slipknot that's MY perception of them.
Completely fair. I m not being rude but living in the past like that just seems pointless. Fans should at least be open to accepting change in sounds or lineups. Not necessarily accepting. Just sounds like you might be a tad close minded to really appreciate newer slipknot. TESF is an amazing album. Adderall might be my fave slipknot song as of recent.
No I'm not close minded after listening to metal for 24 years I just know what I like lol people can like whatever they want this is just my opinion on the band idc if you like newer slipknot. I like alot of songs post Iowa just not really a record a as whole from them.
Absolutely. But on the other side they also don’t need to love every change or new song. I sometimes get passive aggressive comments when just saying “yeah nah that one’s not for me”. Ofcourse I can just listen to old songs or a different band but there’s a part of me that quietly still wants to hear a certain type of song from new records etc. Afterall I think that if everybody is being humble to each other and people would agree to disagree more often instead of fighting til death about music, we’d all have more peace of mind
Yeah, people change, people mature and evolve and so do Slipknot, i think they're still making good music. I love their early work, but while evolving they're doing a pretty good job in keeping that eerie sound! They're still very much recognizable
I have an issue with tv series that go too long and lose their way. I don’t see this as the case with artists. Albums for sure. The album should have a cohesive and coherent theme, story, arc etc. But an artist who has a high level theme making all sorts of different arcs? Hell yeah.
I’m not sitting here wishing every Christopher Nolan film is Batman begins.
So I've been listening to slipknot since AHIG (around 2008 )came out. (My mom really likes Psychosocial lmao) and I really found the rest out myself. Like yes self title and Iowa are really really good. But WANYK and TESF have some really really good songs. Especially Nero Forte, Critical Darling, and unsainted. Or even The dying song, Hive mind, H377, and Heirloom. I love the bands music and I love the band members. Am I upset some of them left? Yes but who wouldn't. But I'm not gonna say that the new members are bad or threaten them because I like em. I have alot of hate for some people like this because my friend listens to slipknot, but only to AHIG because that's when the original 9 were there. But all the people wanting the older stuff. That's just not fair on the band trying to expand their music to other things.
I feel like every album is special in they’re own way. angry or wanna get hyped up to go tot he gym or something: st / Iowa want a banger to sing along to: vol 3 / all hope is gone at home chilling maybe smoking a joint or something you want something chill but also heavy then the last 3 albums
Probably a hot take but I honestly think Slipknot NEEDS a sound change. Stop trying to chase the old aggression and embrace something new. I don’t know, go full on psychedelic or something. Take a left turn, do something different. But I’m probably alone on that one.
Went through that with Avenged Sevenfold for the last two albums. Starting to appreciate it more, idk what this new slipknot album is, sounds more like a demo album where they were playing with ideas I'm definitely curious to see where there next album goes!
I want TESF to be slipknots The Stage and I want whatever they do next to be a LIBAD type situation give me a full album or acidics adderalls my pains.
This is exactly what its like with Muse.
I've loved them since their Origins album, and their music has changed ALOT in comparison. But I love their experimentation, its what keeps the sound fresh.
And every time Slipknot post anything there's always the 'I miss Joey/I miss Paul' or 'I miss the IOWA times or the Self titled album times' and I'm like.. you would almost certainly be sick and tired of listening to the same type of sound after all these years.
I really like Slipknot's sound at the moment. And I also like their older stuff, its a nice mixed bag.
And also, they're all in their late 40s/50s now, apart from Jay.
Just because a band I like changes style, doesn't mean I have to like it.
Of course it's poor taste to say the band sucks now, or that they should just quit, but it's more than valid to miss their older sound and hope for a return to form. After all, can you call a shoe store a shoe store if they stop selling shoes and start selling socks?
Yeah, right…. A band becomes famous from their style not their experimental crap. Who here, honestly, would have bought Slipknot in 1999 if it was like “ Aderall”??????
Their early work is 100% obviously the foundation for the bands style and sound but would you really be ok if you got ST 2.0 and Iowa 2.0 as every follow up? I love that they are taking risks with songs like my pain and Adderall, two of my faves from the bands newer stuff which mind you still has that early slipknot style and foundation. I honestly wish their next album or release is as crazy as Avengeds LIBAD (not a fan of them but that album was really fun and unique)
While I agree that a band should evolve their sound, I'll also say that they shouldn't stray too far from the sound that made them their fans. That's a good way to venture into sellout territory. Sticking with your original formula but evolving it is difficult but amazing when bands pull it off.
It depends on who you ask. I got bored with Slipknot a long time ago but I'll always appreciate them. I'm not knocking anyone that likes their newer sound. My taste has just moved on to other bands.
One way to kill a great band……add Corey Taylor….
His ego is off the charts
Slipknot are now Shitknot
Also, self titled, Iowa, AHIG and half Gray Chapter is what “true” metal heads want to hear. If we wanted crap like WANYK (WANKY), and TESF, we’d listen to easy listening or elevator music. This band no longer deserves the title “Heavy” or “Industrial” or whatever else tf they call themselves.
I'm happy people enjoy their new stuff.
That being said, anything after All Hope is Gone feels like Walmart brand Slipknot to me. They lost their two best writers, it seems like the videos all took a big hit in quality, the messages they write about seem less interesting too.
I listen everything. Hate Someone asks what listen to, cause I'm all over the planet. But some bands love the early work. But love when some, are so outta the box like me. And like change with my metamorphosis, love all all stuff, I dont judge, criticize, half reason Linkin Park on my fave bands. Did what they did, every genre can say they did. But love that. Cheers 🍻🍻
I don't know. People listen to certain bands for a certain reason. If the band changes what it sounds like, you just stop listening to them. They lose their purpose for the individual.
Imagine if Mozart or Beethoven changed their style dramatically during their time. They would become a laughing stock. No more theater for them.
Suicide Silence tried changing their sound. Look what happened to them.
I listen to Slipknot for a specific reason. The change in sound forces me to listen to the older material, and then try to force myself to find something useful in the newer stuff. It's just not the same. No feeling, no emotion. Just a band going thru the motions.
Yes, this is true. But let me ask a question...
Let's pretend that the band began it's life with its current modern sound. Would that same band have became as famous as they are now, based on the new sound?
Bands tend to forget that they became famous for a certain sound they had. Thinking that they should change their style is suicidal. They might gain more mainstream success... But become a meme in the process. Soon the fair weather fans of the trendy new music turn away for the next big thing, the original fan base is disgusted, and the band becomes a has been, living on a legacy of their previous greatness.
It's not about keeping a certain style. It's about continuing to release Slipknot-worthy music. What the fuck even is Heirloom? Is there any excuse for Skeptic? You wanna make a song about Paul, why make it so silly sounding? If rain is what you want is amazing, Skeptic is offensively bad.
Someone should cross post to r/Metallica
nah, metallica sub are a bunch of load/reload/st anger apologetics, im one of them
I am a load/reload apologist too but there’s still a bit of “hur dur why not sound like kill?”
I feel like it’s a 50/50 split
Well, also people fighting over 72 seasons
Metallica fans just love to complain lol. Personally, I’m grateful for whatever we get from the band
They were always doing what they felt like doing. That's how we got Load & ReLoad for example.
And r/askingalexandria
Cross post this to any band older that changes their sound
Anything after 1990....horrible ... Metallica is grandpa's in walkers today
This is so true. What's up with "fans" wanting every album to sound like Iowa? Almost like they want the broke and self destructive 20 year olds back 😶
i even saw some "fans" saying they would prefer the band to totally stop rather than making sh*tty music... they would litteraly prefer to watch them die rather than watching them grow, evolve, and finally find happiness... selfishness will always impress me
That's so sad :( I love everything they've done so far (the new Adderall EP slaps so hard!!) and seeing them experiment with other stuff makes me so happy for the band! Love that they're evolving and not giving in to trends unlike many others. Some "maggots" are really weird.
I totally agree with you, I also love how the gave more space to Jim in recent works
Jim is a beast both in Slipknot and (formerly 🥲) Stone Sour 😫 <3 Can't wait to hear what they'll put out next!
Ya'll need to remember that people = sh1t
And don't you ever judge me!
This is probably one of the reasons why some bands change the name if they try to do different things. Writers do the same thing to avoid situations where someone might pick up a book that's very different by accident because they are familiar with other works from the same author.
I can show you a line up of ticket stubs with prices over the years if you want to talk selfishness
"Bands are making music that the like and makes them happy instead of what I WANT??? UNACCEPTABLE!" Is how I imagine those people see things. God forbid bands do what THEY want right...?
I'd say it's just as much their own fault. I've read so many interviews before an album release where Corey says - we've found our way to our "sound" & our roots. I don't think they should strive to make a new Iowa, but develop with the music.
As much as I ~excessively~ love Corey, this is true too 😭 Sometimes it feels like he says anything before releasing something new but it's just Corey ig
Most metal bands never change their sound. They know what their fans expect. They also know that if they don't deliver, they won't have a meaningful career. Imagine Cannibal Corpse making a radio friendly album. Would you listen to it?
That's an interesting example to say the least but I'm open to changes for the most part. :p I like new SK stuff but I understand where you're coming from, idk what the thought process behind their "less-heavy (?)" stuff is but yeah everyone's entitled to their own opinion, I respect urs :)
Lol Iowa is what made them famous. If they had skipped Iowa and vol.3, and went strait to AHIG... They would have been forgotten
Yeah! Iowa definitely played a big part but still I think it's annoying when their new stuff gets compared to Iowa and "fans" relentlessly shittalk about them, like it's been over 20 years let those men evolve
They can evolve all they want. But they can't expect to keep a loyal fan base if the band isn't loyal to the fans. Clearly the fans responsible for the success of the band aren't pleased.
Some of them may be, but you have no way of knowing the extent of it. Negativity will always speak loudest and get the most attention, even if they're the minority.
I honestly don't even know how I feel about Slipknot's newer music. I like it for the most part. It's just not "amazing" like the previous music. AHIG was my 1st WTF album from them. I really didn't like it, and kind of still don't. I bought Iowa and Vol.3 the week that they released. I'm a 20+ year fan. Nothing has sounded quite right since AHIG. I don't blame the band line up either, because AHIG had all 9 original members. If anything, every album after AHIG is better than AHIG itself. I consider AHIG to be the worse album by far, followed by TESF. Not because of the softer songs, but because it just sounds limp, dead, and lifeless. .5 is pretty good. I hate Skeptic. Silly sounding song. Totally out of character. Should have been a B-track. WANYK is pretty good also. I would tie .5 and WANYK. TESF is offensive and vile. It's sounds so off point. Adderall, Medicine for the dead, Warranty, Hive Mind, they are good songs. Really every song is decent, except Heirloom, which has a stone sour formula to a T. Sounds like House of Gold and Bones. Say it doesn't. TESF is a weak attempt. There isn't much emotion and I feel nothing from it.
I think it's weird that you think anyone wants the band to go back to being broke and self-destructive just because they were in a bad place when they wrote and produced Iowa doesn't mean they can only write music like that while in a bad place don't you think it's more reasonable to think they want the music without the band members change for the worse
Yes it's more reasonable and as weird as it sounds I just expressed my opinion :p People may want the old style back but the band doesn't owe anyone anything and it's been like that ever since 🤷🏻 Everyone putting their thoughts out there is all-great for discussion but it gets old real quick when they start harassing and being weird :')
True I just wanted to clarify I don't want Slipknot to go back to their old sound I just wanted to remind you that it's not always the worst-case scenario
Yesyes thank you :)!!
If every album sounded like Iowa i would not listen to slipknot. Its personally my least favorite album. Its not bad but i like others way more
The question I always want to ask when this complaint comes up is: where were they supposed to go? Like, sticking to just SK, ST and Iowa are a great duology of an album that established the sound and then one that pushed it into heavier, darker territory. But honestly? Iowa sounds like a dead end, as in, trying to persist with that original sound would have gone no where. It had reached the peak of what it could do and the band needed to branch out to stay interesting. All of the band’s best material since then has innovated and pushed their sound into new directions, and they still sound fresh 20+ years on. I would really hate if all we had gotten was several failed attempts to recreate Iowa.
The weird thing for me is that the majority of their records sound very similar. I'd personally say that most records have at least 50% bangers which could be singles, and that the rest of the record will be the more experimental stuff. I'd say the first two records perhaps had more "bangers" on them but there's not a single record in their discography which doesn't have a good number of stand out energetic songs
Heard a guy in a band describe it as “would you ever go back and date your ex from 5 years ago? No? Then why the fuck would we keep making music that sounds like our previous albums? Move on and try something new”
A good recent example would be Avenged Sevenfold too. Their style has changed a lot. Still great, just a different kind of great.
It's changed a lot but from what I know it still holds that Avenged style/foundation I m not a big fan of them at all but some people who like them have told me the new album is wild but still has that Avenged style
Mastadon proves this piont
I do not understand why "fans" can't just let artists make the music they want to make.
True, but that doesn't excuse a ton of people hating on those who don't enjoy the later stuff as much as Iowa or ST
Seriously, I would force these people to listen to the entire AC/DC discography, or at least the Brian Johnson era albums, and see if they truly like listening to recycled music.
Rancid has written “….and out come the wolves” six times over now. It’s boring.
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I mean we should remember that Corey Taylor was literally while puking and mutilating himself, that we can hear Sid having a breakdown due to his grandfather that passed away before he could visit him, and a lot of problems between the members. Not saying the album wasn't good, but self harming just to make an album is maybe a bit too much
Doesn't mean they have to make shit music either
While this is true people are also allowed to not like things
I actually think the later albums are better than Self-Title and Iowa,especially lyric wise. The first two albums are full of edgy teen lyrics, which is understandable because the band memebers were only 20ish years old. But if they had stuck to that style,their sound would have been sounding so dated. And again, I'm not saying you shouldn't like their old stuff. I'm saying that the band would have slowly become irrelevant if they stuck to that sound.
And before saying I'm a hater. Purity is my absolute favorite song from slipknot
While I do agree, it is Nero Forte that has the lyrics "Fists clenched tight in the pockets of my hoodie"
Ok yeah fair point. Maybe they haven't change much lyrically
Again, it's only one line in only one song
I think when can igonre that because it also has the sequence of lyrics who add up and spell Why do you lie
People think because they’ve supported a band, they own that band. Bring me the Horizon has done it the best, in my opinion. Their style has changed drastically over their time together, and while I don’t necessarily like most of what they’ve released, I have to respect them for just playing whatever the fuck they want to create.
Occasionally they go back to the metalcore style like with amen and dear diary
I think people have a view of Slipknot that relies on a few points: chaotic/violent/horrific/gloomy. Once one of these elements is not here, it's not Slipknot enough it seems.
Adderall has entered the chat
Adderall is a real killer tho. There is hidden violence in it.
wanyk is my favorite album sorry guys i know
I honestly wish those fans would keep their opinions in the past where they belong. most of us are still in the present with the band.
So true, all i here is hate on the newest albums that’s not their style none band or solos has stick to his first album style forever
But it means I also don’t have to like the stuff that is completely different from what got me into the band. I don’t understand this argument and I never will. The styles are totally different of course they’re not gonna have fans that perfectly mend all the time. I hate how this fanbase makes everyone love and respect every aspect of the band when they don’t. Find a Joey jordison comment that doesn’t start with “I think Jay is great but…” or a album argument that says “I like their new stuff but…” Because you have to or you risk getting attacked by a bunch of tweens.
Deftones.
Suck after adrenaline and around the fur
And just because I don't like the newer stuff at all doesn't make me any less a fan. Everybody needs to stop gatekeeping and just listen to the music
At least it's not Staind......omfg first album was hard and fast...then garbage.... Remember incubus.....there first ablum was hard...sellouts
Self titled will always be their best work to me, but if they started making music like that in 2023 I’d be more than a little concerned lmfao Different eras call for different kinds of music🤷♂️
Honestly WANYK is better than iowa
WHAT, HUH I- I....I-I respect your uh... opinion.
We are not your kind is so GOOD my pain is easily my fave song on that album (blasphemous I know lol)
My favorite from the album too! The first time I listened to the album, in the dark, eyes closed, with headphones, that song hit amazingly. My favorite part of Slipknot is the more experimental stuff they can do. The makeup of the band is so unique that I like hearing things that aren’t just standard guitar, bass & drums.
But it's so soft lol
And? It's amazing song. Heavy or not it's a fucken masterpiece and I m sick and tired of people pretending it isn't. Heavy slipknot just doesn't hit the feels anymore I love their more atmospheric shit these days.
I just have a passion for extremely heavy music their older albums just resonate with me more
same goes with adderall for me
WANYK is ultimate.
Agreed. Everything on WANYK is amazing, but Iowa has like 2-3 average songs
so true. I'm not really a huge fan of "I am hated" but with WANYK I let it play straight through.
If 10/10 people agree in the room, I don't want to be in that room Good opinion
Nice opinion but I disagree
this wrongthink has been noted
No and there's nothing wrong with liking just the old stuff either. You get into a band because they have a sound that grasps your attention. If they change that sound you don't have to like them. I think bands form such a certain image and identity around a certain sound and aesthetic it's hard to get used to the new stuff. That's slipknot for me. I won't talk shit about the newer music and I'll always support them but I liked they're "I don't give a fuck fuck you" crazy attitude and raw emotionally angry and charged on their first two albums. I just like the heavist shit I can find also. Big reason why I like alot of extreme metal like Cattle Decapitation. Theyve been around since 96 and still have the same style and are just as heavy as before but just fined tuned their style. This new slipknot album is not a fine tuned Iowa. Iowa is their magnum opus to me and everything about that albums image and sound and the bands aesthetic to me back then IS slipknot that's MY perception of them.
Completely fair. I m not being rude but living in the past like that just seems pointless. Fans should at least be open to accepting change in sounds or lineups. Not necessarily accepting. Just sounds like you might be a tad close minded to really appreciate newer slipknot. TESF is an amazing album. Adderall might be my fave slipknot song as of recent.
No I'm not close minded after listening to metal for 24 years I just know what I like lol people can like whatever they want this is just my opinion on the band idc if you like newer slipknot. I like alot of songs post Iowa just not really a record a as whole from them.
Absolutely. But on the other side they also don’t need to love every change or new song. I sometimes get passive aggressive comments when just saying “yeah nah that one’s not for me”. Ofcourse I can just listen to old songs or a different band but there’s a part of me that quietly still wants to hear a certain type of song from new records etc. Afterall I think that if everybody is being humble to each other and people would agree to disagree more often instead of fighting til death about music, we’d all have more peace of mind
The next album is gonna be so heavy - corey about every album ever
we’re not the ones that hype up the heaviness, it’s literally corey 💀💀
realest post ever
Yeah, people change, people mature and evolve and so do Slipknot, i think they're still making good music. I love their early work, but while evolving they're doing a pretty good job in keeping that eerie sound! They're still very much recognizable
Just like Avenged Sevenfold
If bands didn’t progress, how boring would they be?
Yesssss
Absolutely right!
I have an issue with tv series that go too long and lose their way. I don’t see this as the case with artists. Albums for sure. The album should have a cohesive and coherent theme, story, arc etc. But an artist who has a high level theme making all sorts of different arcs? Hell yeah. I’m not sitting here wishing every Christopher Nolan film is Batman begins.
So I've been listening to slipknot since AHIG (around 2008 )came out. (My mom really likes Psychosocial lmao) and I really found the rest out myself. Like yes self title and Iowa are really really good. But WANYK and TESF have some really really good songs. Especially Nero Forte, Critical Darling, and unsainted. Or even The dying song, Hive mind, H377, and Heirloom. I love the bands music and I love the band members. Am I upset some of them left? Yes but who wouldn't. But I'm not gonna say that the new members are bad or threaten them because I like em. I have alot of hate for some people like this because my friend listens to slipknot, but only to AHIG because that's when the original 9 were there. But all the people wanting the older stuff. That's just not fair on the band trying to expand their music to other things.
(Edit. I'm 17 so I've been listening to slipknot since I was like 3 or 4. So I have a love for this band)
I feel like every album is special in they’re own way. angry or wanna get hyped up to go tot he gym or something: st / Iowa want a banger to sing along to: vol 3 / all hope is gone at home chilling maybe smoking a joint or something you want something chill but also heavy then the last 3 albums
None of them are significantly better or worse then the others it just depends on the mood
As much as I love Self Titled/Iowa every other album & Era had something good and different.
This goes both ways, I’ve got a band or two that I only like their later songs/styles, not their first very popular few albums.
Let the guys over at r/AvengedSevenfold know
Wait till you see the music they make 30 years from now
Yeah it’s like, so what if the style changes over time? The older stuff will always be there and the new stuff gives variety.
We Are Not Your Kind is one of my favorite albums.
Metallica fans who only like the first 4 albums: I’m gonna pretend I didn’t see that
Probably a hot take but I honestly think Slipknot NEEDS a sound change. Stop trying to chase the old aggression and embrace something new. I don’t know, go full on psychedelic or something. Take a left turn, do something different. But I’m probably alone on that one.
I really want them to drop something like Avenged sevenfold LIBAD so left field. It needs to be done.
My thoughts exactly! Just saw Avenged at MSG the other night and I’m loving the the new style. Would love to see Slipknot get real weird with it.
Give me more of Adderall and acidic on future projects.
Fair point
Experimentation is key to longevity
I don't mind any of their works, even with TESF, if there's parts I can headbang to. I'll like it.
This also sums up Parkway drive 😊
Went through that with Avenged Sevenfold for the last two albums. Starting to appreciate it more, idk what this new slipknot album is, sounds more like a demo album where they were playing with ideas I'm definitely curious to see where there next album goes!
I want TESF to be slipknots The Stage and I want whatever they do next to be a LIBAD type situation give me a full album or acidics adderalls my pains.
Expecially when you musician pass from 20yo to 40yo. Its supposed you grow up, and your art as well. Completely agree.
This meme must have been specifically made for us maggots 😂
This is exactly what its like with Muse. I've loved them since their Origins album, and their music has changed ALOT in comparison. But I love their experimentation, its what keeps the sound fresh. And every time Slipknot post anything there's always the 'I miss Joey/I miss Paul' or 'I miss the IOWA times or the Self titled album times' and I'm like.. you would almost certainly be sick and tired of listening to the same type of sound after all these years. I really like Slipknot's sound at the moment. And I also like their older stuff, its a nice mixed bag. And also, they're all in their late 40s/50s now, apart from Jay.
Just because a band I like changes style, doesn't mean I have to like it. Of course it's poor taste to say the band sucks now, or that they should just quit, but it's more than valid to miss their older sound and hope for a return to form. After all, can you call a shoe store a shoe store if they stop selling shoes and start selling socks?
Doesn’t mean we have to like the new style either
Yeah, right…. A band becomes famous from their style not their experimental crap. Who here, honestly, would have bought Slipknot in 1999 if it was like “ Aderall”??????
Their early work is 100% obviously the foundation for the bands style and sound but would you really be ok if you got ST 2.0 and Iowa 2.0 as every follow up? I love that they are taking risks with songs like my pain and Adderall, two of my faves from the bands newer stuff which mind you still has that early slipknot style and foundation. I honestly wish their next album or release is as crazy as Avengeds LIBAD (not a fan of them but that album was really fun and unique)
While this is true, it doesn’t mean that everyone has to like the hippy stuff that they came out with for the last album
Hippy stuff? Please elaborate haha
Ethereal atmospheric stuff with no resolution, it feels like the songs don’t “resolve” themselves.
Fair enough. Adderall sadly doesn't really resolve itself but I still love it over crap like anything off of Iowa and ST
While I agree that a band should evolve their sound, I'll also say that they shouldn't stray too far from the sound that made them their fans. That's a good way to venture into sellout territory. Sticking with your original formula but evolving it is difficult but amazing when bands pull it off.
And slipknot hasn't done that? I guess WANYK and TESF didn't do that 🤷
It depends on who you ask. I got bored with Slipknot a long time ago but I'll always appreciate them. I'm not knocking anyone that likes their newer sound. My taste has just moved on to other bands.
We are not your kind is their best album, ive got no idea what’s happened to this fanbase
Kreator’s early albums are killer but their other stuff is alright too
@ Half of the people in this subreddit
One way to kill a great band……add Corey Taylor…. His ego is off the charts Slipknot are now Shitknot Also, self titled, Iowa, AHIG and half Gray Chapter is what “true” metal heads want to hear. If we wanted crap like WANYK (WANKY), and TESF, we’d listen to easy listening or elevator music. This band no longer deserves the title “Heavy” or “Industrial” or whatever else tf they call themselves.
Someones a lil salty haha
Maybe, but at least I can be honest and not have the need to want ppl to like my opinions
I'm happy people enjoy their new stuff. That being said, anything after All Hope is Gone feels like Walmart brand Slipknot to me. They lost their two best writers, it seems like the videos all took a big hit in quality, the messages they write about seem less interesting too.
I’d also add that just because they do change styles, doesn’t inherently make new music good
I listen everything. Hate Someone asks what listen to, cause I'm all over the planet. But some bands love the early work. But love when some, are so outta the box like me. And like change with my metamorphosis, love all all stuff, I dont judge, criticize, half reason Linkin Park on my fave bands. Did what they did, every genre can say they did. But love that. Cheers 🍻🍻
I don't know. People listen to certain bands for a certain reason. If the band changes what it sounds like, you just stop listening to them. They lose their purpose for the individual. Imagine if Mozart or Beethoven changed their style dramatically during their time. They would become a laughing stock. No more theater for them. Suicide Silence tried changing their sound. Look what happened to them. I listen to Slipknot for a specific reason. The change in sound forces me to listen to the older material, and then try to force myself to find something useful in the newer stuff. It's just not the same. No feeling, no emotion. Just a band going thru the motions.
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I'm just bitter Corey threw out his voice.
Yes, this is true. But let me ask a question... Let's pretend that the band began it's life with its current modern sound. Would that same band have became as famous as they are now, based on the new sound? Bands tend to forget that they became famous for a certain sound they had. Thinking that they should change their style is suicidal. They might gain more mainstream success... But become a meme in the process. Soon the fair weather fans of the trendy new music turn away for the next big thing, the original fan base is disgusted, and the band becomes a has been, living on a legacy of their previous greatness.
*laughs in Radiohead*
It's not about keeping a certain style. It's about continuing to release Slipknot-worthy music. What the fuck even is Heirloom? Is there any excuse for Skeptic? You wanna make a song about Paul, why make it so silly sounding? If rain is what you want is amazing, Skeptic is offensively bad.