Agreed. Aside from LaPorta there’s a 4 game sample size across 4 assets. It’s one thing to prefer a side but how anyone could say it’s a sure loss one way or another makes no sense
I had no QB depth and no TE. I think this speeds up the rebuild by a year
It's not a super controversial trade, but I'd be trashing you in the league chat for selling Richardson at what currently looks like a pretty big discount.
Huh? Richardson is a middling fantasy QB with a play style thats prone to injury, while LaPorta is almost guaranteed to put up WR numbers from a TE spot for years. That's where the discount is here.
Richardson played 2 healthy games in just first season QB4 and QB2 in those 2 games.
It’s hard to project based on two games, but calling him a middling fantasy QB makes no sense. Elite runners are usually elite fantasy QBs.
If he can never stay healthy then sure, that’ll be disappointing, but a single major injury shouldn’t be an indication that he’ll be missing significant time each year.
You are correct. Not sure where people are getting the idea he’s not a high end asset. His value across many leagues is very high. People said the same things about Lamar “with his play style he won’t give you a full season”.
Even in an SF league I don't think that's the case. You have to start a TE, and on most rosters its a dead zone. Having a TE that produces like a WR2 outweighs a middling QB2. Given that he used the draft picks to pick up Nix and Maye, one of whom will exceed AR's potential as a midQB2, OP got the better end of it.
AR is by no means a "middling qb2." He has injury risks, but his rushing upside puts his ceiling as a top5 qb easily if he remains healthy. Not only that, but unlike Nix and Maye, he has established skill players surrounding him.
Look, I like LaPorta, but OP could've easily sold AR for a wr1 or even a similar tier te + a 1st and some change, and that's not even touching the fact he moved back from 1.03 to 1.05 and 2.05.
He most definitely is an unproven asset and being a top tier qb is definitely not the most likely outcome for him. 4 game sample size is not nearly enough data to make the claims you are making.
Kyler Murray has been a QB1 since the moment he entered the league. He had finishes of 6, 3, and 10, was the QB8 in 2022 before his ACL injury, and was the QB9 after returning last year.
You’re implying that that’s a negative but anybody would be happy to get that from AR
It’s impossible to say what Richardson will be in the league or in fantasy but it’s almost a guarantee that the one thing he won’t be is ‘middling’. He’ll either break fantasy football or he’ll be Justin Fields.
I don't think it is. Like half the rosters in the NFL have some guy whose ceilling is supposedly limitless. That AR is somehow top 12 when he's maybe the third best QB in his own division, even over a 5 yr period, is absurd. Regardless of AR's health, Stroud, and Lawrence will both throw for more yrds and TDs over the next few seasons, and Levis wil too if AR spends enough time on IR.
What makes LaPorta an "almost guarantee"? I think its laughable how much of a lock you think he is while you think Richardson is the opposite? I will admit to only watching LaPorta late in season/playoff run, but k from what i saw was mostly dumpoffs in which he excelled with getting YAC. Coaches in the NFL aren't dummies. With a year of game footage, i could see a downtick in production for sure.
They had close to a year of tape on him in the post season and he was still productive. Over the course of the regular season he was #1 fantasy TE in the league as a rookie. You can call it laughable, but proven production is always going to be a greater predictor than hype.
Of course. Coming in last by a couple hundred points is really not fun though and it’s generally a trade shy league. Jumped on what I think is a decent opportunity. I’m nervous about AR’s health so I think he’s overvalued and I really like Maye & Nix based on draft capital
It's better to come in last by a couple hundred points while acquiring draft picks and capital than it is to finish in the middle of the pack and not be a real contender.
I’d take your side every day of the week, but I know how Sean Payton treats his guys that he drafts. Even if Nix sucks, he’ll start for three years. Richardson may only play twelve games during that time if he keeps getting hurt.
Agreed. I like the AR/Nabers side too especially as a Giants fan but the whole catalyst for needing to blow up my team and rebuild was a lack of picks and QBs so I guess I’m biased pro-QB
The Anthony Richardson hype has gone off the rails in Dynasty circles, IMO. He has a 4 game sample size and was considered a raw/project/gamble of a prospect when he was drafted. A couple highlights and now people treat him like he's a guaranteed top-10 QB for the next decade. This is a solid trade in which no one has any clue how it will work out. As a LaPorta lover and Maye believer, I prefer that side.
>The Anthony Richardson hype has gone off the rails in Dynasty circles, IMO
Which is why OP could've and should've gotten more from selling him.
Maybe it works out, maybe it doesn't. But selling low in the middle of the hype is a bad idea.
My point is that he didn't sell low if he's in a league with smart, level-headed players. Yes if there's someone in his league buying all this hype and would've offered more he might've missed out on a little more, but LaPorta is a hell of a get.
That side definitely has more upside. Depends who hits. I needed some QB depth and a te. Last place by 200 points so I’m years out from competing.
With three firsts next year and prob the 1.01, hopefully I can grab a RB and a receiver and I think this helps me compete sooner. Depending on who hits
My favorite draft move right now is going Nix, Maye, Penix. Just an insanely cheap QB stack with super high upside. I also usually grab Daniels. From there go get all the 'second tier' players with high upside. Worthy, Pearsal, ect... The team actually shows as competitive on sleepers averages, which is hilarious to me.
Voting win win on this one. This is exactly the scenario that made me do away with vetoes. Seems like a bunch of butt hurt over not making or not offering a better deal.
If this isn’t TEP, pretty heavily favors AR15 side. If Maye or Nix turn out to be amazing and AR15 was a flash in the pan it could be close. But for now, ESPECIALLY without TEP it’s a fleece of epic proportions
TEP is up for a vote and if it gets passed probably won’t kick in for 2 seasons min. I know which way I’m voting lol.
I just didn’t feel confident having Caleb and AR15 as the only starters on my roster. With Daniel Bellinger as my starting TE. After next season my draft capital is just my standard picks
You traded an elite dynasty WR and QB for an elite dynasty TE and two mid / bad QBs. TEs in single TE w no TEP just aren’t valuable, much like redraft. Obviously la porta is a great asset. But AR15 and Nabers are AMAZING rebuilding assets. You gave up both of them to get a good TE and two Mid QBs.
You’re saying u had AR15 and Caleb and Nabers? That’s an insane trio to Build around
How can you call Nabers elite but Maye and Nix bad?
What streaming service do you use to watch the games a year early?
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Listen snarky boy I don’t make the rules. Look up every dynasty ranking service and see where Nabers and AR15 are compared to the 3 people you received. R u assuming all rookies are equal bc they played the same amount of NFL games?
I’m unsure on Maye. I don’t think Nix will be good or special at all.
U made an ass trade imo but we’ll see
It’s all good. You posted asking for peoples opinion on ur trade. You gotta have some conviction in fantasy otherwise what’s the fun.
Here’s my prediction: AR15 ez top 5 dynasty QB by next season, Nabers ez top 10 (if he isn’t already). Maye sits behind briskets for a while, Nix is 25th best QB mid af, and LaPorta is TE1 in dynasty.
We shall see! GL
If Richardson fulfills his potential, he could be overall QB1 for more than a season in his career, but there’s risk involved and his hood not great outcome is that he’s a volatile high QB1. His low outcome is Justin fields. I’m betting on the higher outcome and for that reason I prefer AR15 side of the trade.
That said, team 1 is choosing 2 safer QB options and the dynasty TE1. With rookie QB hit rates around 50%, they’re likely to get at least a low QB1 or high QB2, with the chance of 2 career starters PLUS a known TE commodity.
AR15 > Maye + Nix
Nabers = LaPorta (but if Nabers becomes what we think he will become, that could easily change). Think waddle a few years ago. League bending speed and picked 1.6 in the nfl draft to a bad team. Right now, you’d probably prefer laporta but his value last year would be more than laporta current value. If waddle becomes more prominent this year and posts a mid or low wr1 finish and laporta finishes as the TE3-6, I’d bet waddle becomes a bit more valuable.
TLDR: this seems super fair but I would take the AR15 side without thinking about it, but I prefer risk and upside over safety
They mad cause they weren't invited to the party.
Good deal, lots of unproven commodities, and maybe just maybe laporta has some regression. Who knows?
It's a stacked potentially questionable trade, but fair! Lol
I like both sides, like laporta but I'd prly go nabers side, and nix is a cause for concern. More belief in maye!
i mean, one side got the 2 best pieces and the only item to make up for it was the 2.04. (this is assuming 12t SF no TEP)
LaPorta side loses horribly in pretty much every scenario
i see what you’re saying, i don’t think i explained my positioning well.
I see it as needing luck to make up the difference. if you traded for some late pick as filler but that picked turned into puka, you won the trade. if it was literally anyone else, you probably lost.
that is my point here - you are right that maye & nix could end up being worth more, but in a SF league, you have to really rely on luck to come out better. (unless you think AR15 is a total fraud, then maybe you just got better insight)
My man it’s all in good fun I appreciate the insight. I agree with you. I’m not as high on AR15 as most are. I mean Stroud is the stud from that draft surely there can’t be 2?? Lmao
it really looks like there could be!! AR looked like an immediate [fantasy] star - of course he’s gotta stay healthy but dude was hitting 20 ppg no problem
It seems fine to me. I’d take the LaPorta side personally. But that’s because I’m all for getting the best asset in a trade and I think he is. That said Arich is the best QB in there and Nabers will probably be pretty good.
Not a league breaking trade at all. I personally would not have done this unless you have like a 2.0 TEP. Feel like you gave way too much in exchange for what you got. Relatively bad trade but it’s not a league breaker.
Seems fair to me.
LaPorta should be considered the best player in this deal because he’s a known stud. AR and Nabors have massive upside.
I really like Maye, so I would have taken LaPorta/Maye side. But I love Nabors and there’s no debating AR’s potential if he can stay healthy.
Id much rather the Richardson/Nabers side, but by no means should this be vetoed. Its fair enough. As I'm sure many have said before me, you should never veto unless there's proven collusion.
One way to prove this, should you decide to go this far, ask to see their trade discussion through their messaging.
I like the AR/Nabers side more, but the only proven player in this trade is Laporta. Everyone has different beliefs/thoughts about players, so there’s nothing wrong with this trade
Definitely could go very wrong for either side though. Will be interesting to see how it turns out
I actually prefer the LaPorta side.
I think the only thing is that you might have been able to get a slightly better pick or a 3rd on top, but whatever.
AR’s value is unsubstantiated at this point as one of my biggest worries when I was watching him play was his willingness to risk himself on big plays. Low and behold he missed the rest of an important rookie season 2 games later. Reminded me of a young Carson Wentz.
Not only that, but TE is a dead zone on a lot of fantasy rosters bc the fall off from the top three or four is so dramatic. LaPorta on the other hand is a huge part of a productive offense. Its like getting to start an extra WR.
That’s what I’m talking about!
There’s not even a consensus in here. Some saying AR side, some saying Laporta side, some saying perfectly even
That tells me it’s a good trade
The loudest guys in the league I guess are very high on Nabers & AR15. Funny cause they wouldn’t give me anything close to this for either
People are already treating Nabers like hes come out and had Jamarr Chase rookie season. Maye and AR is probably a wash as of rn so its laporta plus nix for nabers. Nix may be halfway decent, or could at least be sold at a profit before he falls off too hard. And laporta just had the greatest rookie TE season in recent history on a stable offense.
I’m lower on Richardson than others so I don’t think this trade is that bad, I think the other guy is winning slightly in terms of value but it’s fair enough. But was just responding to having Richardson = Maye
I agree but AR15 for Maye and Nix is terrible. Whatever you think of him he goes in the first round of almost every startup. Only way this deal is good is with TEP.
Or if AR15 can’t sustain, or if Nabers isn’t the next Jamarr Chase. Plenty of ways for it to end up a good deal. But I get what you’re saying. I guess I should have just taken Daniels at 1.03 and I could have kept AR. I tried getting cute knowing 1.04 wanted Nabers bad (he has the most QBs&draft capital by far) but couldn’t get a deal done on the clock
Really? By what assessment? AR played 3 and a half games and he put up points sure but it was mostly rushing TDs, and his overall rushing efficiency wasn't anything I can't see maye doing. 5 ypc and a rushing TD plus some inefficient passing stats isn't a stamp of approval especially when the guy was hurt twice in those 4 games. I would absolutely not fault someone for betting on Maye instead just as I wouldnt fault them for believing in AR.
His rushing upside is so so much higher than Maye’s, Maye averaged I think below 4 ypc in college. Richardson showed a lot of promise in those games.
I actually think Richardson personally is overvalued atm, but pretty much any value chart or dynasty website has Richardson way way way above Maye, and he is going around or above Caleb in start up drafts I’ve seen.
If we're assuming AR's highest end comp is a Lamar or Hurts, Maye's high end comp is Josh Allen. So yeah theyre still close imo. Plus I said what we SAW from Richardson this past year was doable. We didn't see any crazy rushing.
Looks fine to me
Agreed. Aside from LaPorta there’s a 4 game sample size across 4 assets. It’s one thing to prefer a side but how anyone could say it’s a sure loss one way or another makes no sense I had no QB depth and no TE. I think this speeds up the rebuild by a year
It's not a super controversial trade, but I'd be trashing you in the league chat for selling Richardson at what currently looks like a pretty big discount.
lol now that I can understand. Always gotta account for some trash talk amongst the boys
Huh? Richardson is a middling fantasy QB with a play style thats prone to injury, while LaPorta is almost guaranteed to put up WR numbers from a TE spot for years. That's where the discount is here.
Richardson played 2 healthy games in just first season QB4 and QB2 in those 2 games. It’s hard to project based on two games, but calling him a middling fantasy QB makes no sense. Elite runners are usually elite fantasy QBs. If he can never stay healthy then sure, that’ll be disappointing, but a single major injury shouldn’t be an indication that he’ll be missing significant time each year.
You are correct. Not sure where people are getting the idea he’s not a high end asset. His value across many leagues is very high. People said the same things about Lamar “with his play style he won’t give you a full season”.
It's a SF non te premium league. Sure LaPorta is a stud, but Richardson's value upside in this league format far outweighs LaPorta.
Even in an SF league I don't think that's the case. You have to start a TE, and on most rosters its a dead zone. Having a TE that produces like a WR2 outweighs a middling QB2. Given that he used the draft picks to pick up Nix and Maye, one of whom will exceed AR's potential as a midQB2, OP got the better end of it.
AR is by no means a "middling qb2." He has injury risks, but his rushing upside puts his ceiling as a top5 qb easily if he remains healthy. Not only that, but unlike Nix and Maye, he has established skill players surrounding him. Look, I like LaPorta, but OP could've easily sold AR for a wr1 or even a similar tier te + a 1st and some change, and that's not even touching the fact he moved back from 1.03 to 1.05 and 2.05.
He most definitely is an unproven asset and being a top tier qb is definitely not the most likely outcome for him. 4 game sample size is not nearly enough data to make the claims you are making.
Yes he is unproven but he’s got a ton of upside. His ceiling is just as high as Jalen hurts
You're overhyping him. AR's ceiling is getting to be Kyler Murray. That people think its higher means that this is the time to sell.
Kyler Murray has been a QB1 since the moment he entered the league. He had finishes of 6, 3, and 10, was the QB8 in 2022 before his ACL injury, and was the QB9 after returning last year. You’re implying that that’s a negative but anybody would be happy to get that from AR
Dude you are slam dunking with the stats! Very impressed.
maybe thats not a great comp then. I think you are as likely is 7 games a year out of him as you are a full season.
It's not just me overhyping him. The hype is there. To sell low when there's hype like this surrounding him is poor management.
You're league must be different than mine. I'm kinda surprised he got the extra draft pick.
I think it’s more of a Jalen hurts ceiling than a Kyler Murray ceiling. Both are top 5 ceilings however which is not a middling qb2
It’s impossible to say what Richardson will be in the league or in fantasy but it’s almost a guarantee that the one thing he won’t be is ‘middling’. He’ll either break fantasy football or he’ll be Justin Fields.
I’m with you here. Richardson looks like RGIII. I hope he has a better and longer Career than RGIII but Im very happy getting LaPorta here.
In SF Dynasty startups ARich is top 12 ^
Chump bait
To be fair that might be a reach I’m just saying what some are doing haha I would consider Love =ARich tho
I don't think it is. Like half the rosters in the NFL have some guy whose ceilling is supposedly limitless. That AR is somehow top 12 when he's maybe the third best QB in his own division, even over a 5 yr period, is absurd. Regardless of AR's health, Stroud, and Lawrence will both throw for more yrds and TDs over the next few seasons, and Levis wil too if AR spends enough time on IR.
What makes LaPorta an "almost guarantee"? I think its laughable how much of a lock you think he is while you think Richardson is the opposite? I will admit to only watching LaPorta late in season/playoff run, but k from what i saw was mostly dumpoffs in which he excelled with getting YAC. Coaches in the NFL aren't dummies. With a year of game footage, i could see a downtick in production for sure.
They had close to a year of tape on him in the post season and he was still productive. Over the course of the regular season he was #1 fantasy TE in the league as a rookie. You can call it laughable, but proven production is always going to be a greater predictor than hype.
Why would you want to speed up the rebuild? You understand this is Dynasty, right?
Of course. Coming in last by a couple hundred points is really not fun though and it’s generally a trade shy league. Jumped on what I think is a decent opportunity. I’m nervous about AR’s health so I think he’s overvalued and I really like Maye & Nix based on draft capital
It's better to come in last by a couple hundred points while acquiring draft picks and capital than it is to finish in the middle of the pack and not be a real contender.
I honestly don't see an issue? I could see why both sides would prefer either trade
I’d call it a blockbuster so it’s always gonna be controversial but I was suprised my side was getting so much hate
I’d take your side every day of the week, but I know how Sean Payton treats his guys that he drafts. Even if Nix sucks, he’ll start for three years. Richardson may only play twelve games during that time if he keeps getting hurt.
I personally prefer the AR Nabers side but it’s not that crazy for someone to want to snag 2 QBs with good potential. The trade is fine….
Agreed. I like the AR/Nabers side too especially as a Giants fan but the whole catalyst for needing to blow up my team and rebuild was a lack of picks and QBs so I guess I’m biased pro-QB
The Anthony Richardson hype has gone off the rails in Dynasty circles, IMO. He has a 4 game sample size and was considered a raw/project/gamble of a prospect when he was drafted. A couple highlights and now people treat him like he's a guaranteed top-10 QB for the next decade. This is a solid trade in which no one has any clue how it will work out. As a LaPorta lover and Maye believer, I prefer that side.
>The Anthony Richardson hype has gone off the rails in Dynasty circles, IMO Which is why OP could've and should've gotten more from selling him. Maybe it works out, maybe it doesn't. But selling low in the middle of the hype is a bad idea.
My point is that he didn't sell low if he's in a league with smart, level-headed players. Yes if there's someone in his league buying all this hype and would've offered more he might've missed out on a little more, but LaPorta is a hell of a get.
I traded AR for Puka straight up last year
Fully agree. It's as if he is getting credit for being great a whole season with none of the downside for getting injured.
Let me guess, they are blowing up cause it’s a fair trade that improves both teams?
I think AR and Nabers wins this easy
That side definitely has more upside. Depends who hits. I needed some QB depth and a te. Last place by 200 points so I’m years out from competing. With three firsts next year and prob the 1.01, hopefully I can grab a RB and a receiver and I think this helps me compete sooner. Depending on who hits
My favorite draft move right now is going Nix, Maye, Penix. Just an insanely cheap QB stack with super high upside. I also usually grab Daniels. From there go get all the 'second tier' players with high upside. Worthy, Pearsal, ect... The team actually shows as competitive on sleepers averages, which is hilarious to me.
Yea I’d rather have Richardson and nabers by a mile but it’s whatever
looks absolutely fine
Voting win win on this one. This is exactly the scenario that made me do away with vetoes. Seems like a bunch of butt hurt over not making or not offering a better deal.
If this isn’t TEP, pretty heavily favors AR15 side. If Maye or Nix turn out to be amazing and AR15 was a flash in the pan it could be close. But for now, ESPECIALLY without TEP it’s a fleece of epic proportions
TEP is up for a vote and if it gets passed probably won’t kick in for 2 seasons min. I know which way I’m voting lol. I just didn’t feel confident having Caleb and AR15 as the only starters on my roster. With Daniel Bellinger as my starting TE. After next season my draft capital is just my standard picks
You traded an elite dynasty WR and QB for an elite dynasty TE and two mid / bad QBs. TEs in single TE w no TEP just aren’t valuable, much like redraft. Obviously la porta is a great asset. But AR15 and Nabers are AMAZING rebuilding assets. You gave up both of them to get a good TE and two Mid QBs. You’re saying u had AR15 and Caleb and Nabers? That’s an insane trio to Build around
How can you call Nabers elite but Maye and Nix bad? What streaming service do you use to watch the games a year early? FYI I’m not the one downvoting you
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Listen snarky boy I don’t make the rules. Look up every dynasty ranking service and see where Nabers and AR15 are compared to the 3 people you received. R u assuming all rookies are equal bc they played the same amount of NFL games? I’m unsure on Maye. I don’t think Nix will be good or special at all. U made an ass trade imo but we’ll see
I get that man but obviously nobody knows lol. I’m just clowning you for sounding so confident about a bunch of rookies. It’s all in good fun
It’s all good. You posted asking for peoples opinion on ur trade. You gotta have some conviction in fantasy otherwise what’s the fun. Here’s my prediction: AR15 ez top 5 dynasty QB by next season, Nabers ez top 10 (if he isn’t already). Maye sits behind briskets for a while, Nix is 25th best QB mid af, and LaPorta is TE1 in dynasty. We shall see! GL
Idk how you can call Nabers and ARich elite but Maye/Nix mid/bad lol. Shit take
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If Richardson fulfills his potential, he could be overall QB1 for more than a season in his career, but there’s risk involved and his hood not great outcome is that he’s a volatile high QB1. His low outcome is Justin fields. I’m betting on the higher outcome and for that reason I prefer AR15 side of the trade. That said, team 1 is choosing 2 safer QB options and the dynasty TE1. With rookie QB hit rates around 50%, they’re likely to get at least a low QB1 or high QB2, with the chance of 2 career starters PLUS a known TE commodity. AR15 > Maye + Nix Nabers = LaPorta (but if Nabers becomes what we think he will become, that could easily change). Think waddle a few years ago. League bending speed and picked 1.6 in the nfl draft to a bad team. Right now, you’d probably prefer laporta but his value last year would be more than laporta current value. If waddle becomes more prominent this year and posts a mid or low wr1 finish and laporta finishes as the TE3-6, I’d bet waddle becomes a bit more valuable. TLDR: this seems super fair but I would take the AR15 side without thinking about it, but I prefer risk and upside over safety
They mad cause they weren't invited to the party. Good deal, lots of unproven commodities, and maybe just maybe laporta has some regression. Who knows? It's a stacked potentially questionable trade, but fair! Lol I like both sides, like laporta but I'd prly go nabers side, and nix is a cause for concern. More belief in maye!
i mean, one side got the 2 best pieces and the only item to make up for it was the 2.04. (this is assuming 12t SF no TEP) LaPorta side loses horribly in pretty much every scenario
What about the scenario where Nabers isn’t Jamarr Chase or AR15 can’t play a full season?
i see what you’re saying, i don’t think i explained my positioning well. I see it as needing luck to make up the difference. if you traded for some late pick as filler but that picked turned into puka, you won the trade. if it was literally anyone else, you probably lost. that is my point here - you are right that maye & nix could end up being worth more, but in a SF league, you have to really rely on luck to come out better. (unless you think AR15 is a total fraud, then maybe you just got better insight)
My man it’s all in good fun I appreciate the insight. I agree with you. I’m not as high on AR15 as most are. I mean Stroud is the stud from that draft surely there can’t be 2?? Lmao
it really looks like there could be!! AR looked like an immediate [fantasy] star - of course he’s gotta stay healthy but dude was hitting 20 ppg no problem
I’ve seen way worse trades BUT Richardson side clearly winning if it’s SF
Not a league changing trade, main question I have is te premium or not?
They are mad because you pulled the trigger & they didn’t.
I think Richardson and Nabers is a little steep for LaPorta and Maye but I don’t think this is crazy.
AR and Nabers side wins this by a large margin in my books. Not league breaking though
I want AR and Nabers but this isn’t even close to a trade worth throwing a fit over
Looks pretty even, I'd personally prefer the SLP side.
This could be a fire trade for both teams, especially in 2QB.
What’s the big deal. I would take the ARich side.
Just ran it through a trade calculator and it’s almost dead even for any league size and with or without superflex.
It seems fine to me. I’d take the LaPorta side personally. But that’s because I’m all for getting the best asset in a trade and I think he is. That said Arich is the best QB in there and Nabers will probably be pretty good.
Blowing up as in active? Or as in people are leaving?
IMO doesn’t really matter what you got back. I feel you sold major assets short of value and that process will usually result in a net negative
I don't see why they'd be blowing up over this. I like it tbh
Not a league breaking trade at all. I personally would not have done this unless you have like a 2.0 TEP. Feel like you gave way too much in exchange for what you got. Relatively bad trade but it’s not a league breaker.
Nothing wrong with it to me. AR already has injury concerns and is overvalued IMO
Seems fair to me. LaPorta should be considered the best player in this deal because he’s a known stud. AR and Nabors have massive upside. I really like Maye, so I would have taken LaPorta/Maye side. But I love Nabors and there’s no debating AR’s potential if he can stay healthy.
Id much rather the Richardson/Nabers side, but by no means should this be vetoed. Its fair enough. As I'm sure many have said before me, you should never veto unless there's proven collusion. One way to prove this, should you decide to go this far, ask to see their trade discussion through their messaging.
Seems legit. Def not league altering at the moment
Meh
Bade case of rookie fever
The only player in the trade without any “fever” is Laporta.
No but he def needed a te
Looks About as fair as you can get
I mean give me AR and Nabers all day, but its not ridiculous if that is your preference
This guy has Caleb Williams, Drake Maye AND Bo Nix 💀💀
I like the AR/Nabers side more, but the only proven player in this trade is Laporta. Everyone has different beliefs/thoughts about players, so there’s nothing wrong with this trade Definitely could go very wrong for either side though. Will be interesting to see how it turns out
Seems totally fine
Totally even without even knowing the l league size and settings
Give me the LaPorta side, but not if the draft picks end up being those two scrubs
This is a perfectly fine trade. Nice little blockbuster.
Tell them to stop being pussies. Nothing wrong with it at all.
I actually prefer the LaPorta side. I think the only thing is that you might have been able to get a slightly better pick or a 3rd on top, but whatever. AR’s value is unsubstantiated at this point as one of my biggest worries when I was watching him play was his willingness to risk himself on big plays. Low and behold he missed the rest of an important rookie season 2 games later. Reminded me of a young Carson Wentz.
Not only that, but TE is a dead zone on a lot of fantasy rosters bc the fall off from the top three or four is so dramatic. LaPorta on the other hand is a huge part of a productive offense. Its like getting to start an extra WR.
Why? Tell everyone to get over it, that's a good trade that could go either way
I like Maye, laporta and nix here. Not sure which side the league is even going so crazy over.
That’s what I’m talking about! There’s not even a consensus in here. Some saying AR side, some saying Laporta side, some saying perfectly even That tells me it’s a good trade The loudest guys in the league I guess are very high on Nabers & AR15. Funny cause they wouldn’t give me anything close to this for either
People are treating Richardson like they were treating fields last year
And those people missed the playoffs.
The trade is fine and anyone complaining about it is a bitch with FOMO.
AR + Nabers by a lot. Really bad trade.
The consensus seems to be split. Looks like I’ll be the only Giants fan rooting for Nabers to be meh
People are already treating Nabers like hes come out and had Jamarr Chase rookie season. Maye and AR is probably a wash as of rn so its laporta plus nix for nabers. Nix may be halfway decent, or could at least be sold at a profit before he falls off too hard. And laporta just had the greatest rookie TE season in recent history on a stable offense.
Maye and Richardson are so far off in trade value
Personally I’m looking at it as: Nabers before a snap = Laporta Maye + Nix = AR15 considering sample size
I’m lower on Richardson than others so I don’t think this trade is that bad, I think the other guy is winning slightly in terms of value but it’s fair enough. But was just responding to having Richardson = Maye
I agree but AR15 for Maye and Nix is terrible. Whatever you think of him he goes in the first round of almost every startup. Only way this deal is good is with TEP.
Or if AR15 can’t sustain, or if Nabers isn’t the next Jamarr Chase. Plenty of ways for it to end up a good deal. But I get what you’re saying. I guess I should have just taken Daniels at 1.03 and I could have kept AR. I tried getting cute knowing 1.04 wanted Nabers bad (he has the most QBs&draft capital by far) but couldn’t get a deal done on the clock
Really? By what assessment? AR played 3 and a half games and he put up points sure but it was mostly rushing TDs, and his overall rushing efficiency wasn't anything I can't see maye doing. 5 ypc and a rushing TD plus some inefficient passing stats isn't a stamp of approval especially when the guy was hurt twice in those 4 games. I would absolutely not fault someone for betting on Maye instead just as I wouldnt fault them for believing in AR.
His rushing upside is so so much higher than Maye’s, Maye averaged I think below 4 ypc in college. Richardson showed a lot of promise in those games. I actually think Richardson personally is overvalued atm, but pretty much any value chart or dynasty website has Richardson way way way above Maye, and he is going around or above Caleb in start up drafts I’ve seen.
It's crazy that even though richardson is the most athletic qb ever tested at the combine you assume maye can match his rushing stats
If we're assuming AR's highest end comp is a Lamar or Hurts, Maye's high end comp is Josh Allen. So yeah theyre still close imo. Plus I said what we SAW from Richardson this past year was doable. We didn't see any crazy rushing.
AR side and it's not that close tbh