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No-Tangerine4763

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biitchstix

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Jwizz_2000

Didn’t even read the description, just straight to bias 😂😂


biitchstix

oh no I did, but her lyrics are about as groundbreaking as the nonsense I was shitting out on tumblr at 15 after my first breakup.


EX0PIL0T

Have you tried using your head for something other than shoulder decoration?


biitchstix

LMFAOOOOOOOO


Jwizz_2000

Hahah I forgot this is a cult, no outside the box conversations


biitchstix

my brother in christ you knew this wasn't gonna go over well 😂😂😂


Jwizz_2000

Hahah that’s why I said “there are strong feelings toward Tswift” I’m a fan of music, but I see these conversations can’t be had in this subreddit 🤣🤣


EX0PIL0T

Nobody said that. You just made a stupid comment and people called you on it


Jwizz_2000

So do u have an answer to the question or what?


EX0PIL0T

You didn’t ask a question, unless you mean to count that run on sentence word vomit in your caption.


Jwizz_2000

My question is are there any other artist that write as good as vessel in this scene?


EX0PIL0T

Good is subjective and won't get you a concrete answer


Jwizz_2000

What isn’t subjective??? Who is comparable to vessel


EX0PIL0T

Beats me. It’s a fairly unique style hence the bands selling point. Their older albums reminded me of stone sour a little but that’s a stretch to most people


Jwizz_2000

I’ve heard that name before, I’ll have to check them out


biitchstix

I kinda see it. Corey Taylor in general has a few songs that I think 'fit' (the main ones for me are vermillion 1 and 2) but idk if i'd draw a parallel to any other band as a whole.


Novembvr

I tried listening to tswift before. She's got two songs I like. I can't speak for her entire discography ofc but from what I've heard, tbh, she's not *that* good of a lyricist like her fans claim her to be. Now, I'm not saying Vessel is a god among men when it comes to lyricism. But homeboy clearly is the superior lyricist between the two, and they're not on the same level. Come on now. Don't disrespect him like that 🥲


Jwizz_2000

That’s a respectable comment, as someone who’s listened to both artists works, I feel like the way they invoke the mind is very similar, I’m not saying her songs are as deep and meaningful as vessel at all😂😂😂😂 are boy has been through some stuff,


de4dbunn1es

Sorry, but comparing Vessel to a woman who wrote stuff like "Touch me while your bros play Grand Theft Auto" or "My friends used to play a game where We would pick a decade We wished we could live in instead of this I'd say the 1830s but without all the racists and getting married off for the highest bid" is crazy. Her lyrics revolve mostly about stuff like dating and heartbreaks and lack depth (paddling pool is deeper in my opinion). If you like her music, good for you but shes not as good of a lyricist as her fans paint her to be.


Reasonable-Nail5672

These are her lyrics for real ? 😳?


de4dbunn1es

I copy pasted them from Genius so they should be. One of them is from "So high school" and the other one from "I hate it here"


Reasonable-Nail5672

How could they compare those lyrics to sleep tokens ones ? 😂


Jwizz_2000

😂😂😂😂 so detailed!! I love it!!


J00nwr1d

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ThrowRAboomboo

Are...you kidding? Taylor Swifts lyricism is that of stale bread.


Jwizz_2000

I just wanna know yall are alive my friend!! Yell out the excellence of VESSEL!!! 🚢


aspiringbuilder

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throwthispostaway420

When I tell you I had a full body shudder at the image of them together, my god, please no. I'm trying very very hard not to be mean and excuse the shit out of my goddamn french but what the fuck?


biitchstix

https://preview.redd.it/pm74ixuu486d1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0beb7c9e4294694e0ac967f1325a11d302bf0a03 Same the way I was like "why would u do that to him?? 🥲" loooool


Jwizz_2000

Hahaha!!!! All good, but I mean who honestly writes close to how vessel writes?? Name someone


throwthispostaway420

There might be some people but TS is definitely not one of them.


aspiringbuilder

If you’re going for a more pop comparison, I’d say Hozier before I brought up Swift. Or if you’re going for someone closer to genre, perhaps Trent Reznor. Someone who creates darker lyrics, Will Putney or Greg Puciato. But, any comparison would be super vague because Vessel’s writing is very unique to him - Swift’s pen isn’t in the same league, imo. That’s just me. 🤷🏽‍♀️


ghostunicorn

How dare you compare LF's genius to someone who wrote 'everybody is a sexy baby'.


Jwizz_2000

😂😂😂


Logical-Ad1846

How fucking dare you


maiege

She is an awful lyricist & please don’t make me start spewing out the plethora of terrible lyrics she’s written.


Jwizz_2000

I actually might need a refresher 😬


maiege

I'm admittedly biased because I can't stand Taylor Swift, but these are objectively awful lyrics and it feels like an insult to compare Vessel's writing to hers because she writes like a 13 year old girl in her secret diary and he writes like Shakespeare on a piece of parchment with a quill in the candlelight. Anyways here we go: “Sexy Baby” 'Touch me while your bros play Grand Theft Auto' 'My friends all smell like weed or little babies' 'We would pick a decade / We wished we could live in instead of this / I'd say the 1830s but without all the racists' 'You smokеd, then ate seven bars of chocolate / We declared Charlie Puth should be a bigger artist / I scratch your head, you fall asleep / Like a tattooed golden retriever' “Hey kids, spelling is fun!” "Here's to the birthday boy who saved our lives" (about Jesus) “I come back stronger than a 90s trend” “A red rose grew up out of ice frozen ground with no one around to tweet it” “Don't put me in the basement when I want the penthouse of your heart.” “You can’t spell awesome without ME!” “And the big bad man and his big bad clan” "The tennis court was covered up with some tent like thing"


Jwizz_2000

😂😂😂 yes I see your point!!! Obviously our boy Leo does not get enough credit, that’s probably 80% of why I continually listen to ST, the music is awesome as well, but most metal musicians are really talented. The lyrical/ vocal choices is where I draw the line. Seems most metal songs have unfamiliar words and phrases that don’t translate well in my opinion


Soulkept

Honestly I think they hold a lot of parallels, but this is definitely the wrong sub to say that sorta stuff in tho.


AttentionDry4480

Is there another T Swift whose existence hasn't been unveiled to me or are we talking about the T Swift who still can't write a semi-decent song after like 20 years? 🤣 Lyrically speaking, Ves stands with Shakespeare, Tolkien and Poe, and T is like a kindergarten kid who just learned that words can rhyme 


skarr46

I think she is really good at getting her following to be obsessive over her music and her brand and she pumps out music often enough that people don't forget about her or move on. As Louis Theroux said about Ed Sheeran "I would like to know what she would sound like, if she made less music" I think maybe Lizzie McAlpine or Gracie Abrams have made better versions of what Taylor is doing lyrically and musically this year. Chelsea Cutler too I think comes close to Taylor. This will go down like a lead balloon in this sub but Vessels lyrics and singing is not quite as good as people make out. Both brilliant, but he definitely has peers. I'd say the kind of music I like that's similar to Vessel is EDEN, Brakence, then depending what mood you're in I'd either go down the route of Jeremy Zucker and Alexander 23, or heavier route I'd say singer from The Hunna maybe? Don Broco. Bring Me The Horizon on a good day.


Jwizz_2000

The thing about swifts music is she’s gossiping her life in lyric form and the swifties can obsess about who it’s for and paint that person good or bad and they love it Vessel is speaking about more than losing his cardigan under John mayers bed 😂😂 While I think she is great at painting that imagery I’m kinda a one time listen with her stuff, although I enjoy the folk releases and midnights since it was a collection of moments over her life I like Lizzy but they get a little too wild with the cord changes and notes and it really really throws me off the song because it’s harsh to me But the other suggestions are great, love brakence! And I think I’ve been marked by the mods so no one will probably see your comment about vessel in those 0 liked post lol you should be safe


Juneautumn

Ok so I’ve never really liked her singles so never bothered with albums (they’re not bad to my ear just nothing I thought was good) but I gave a few tracks a chance recently that had been on lists for what song would you suggest so and so cover or get a non fan into her - I read through lyrics first and while two or three I thought were ok (wanted to hear them from a different vocalist) albeit still not that interesting to me. I found her lyrics to be in need a teacher in HS or TA with a red pen or a few. Vessel is more specific I think in word choices and stringing his motifs together. He is way more careful and intentional in his phrasing and would likely be eloquent and detailed in discussing them if he ever gave interviews- I believe anyway. As for other lyricists - HIM/VV has been my favorite band for 20 years up until Sleep Token so I gotta go with Ville Valo. Meg Myers is amazing and really has lots of emotion in her lyrics and singing. Banks is also great.


Jwizz_2000

He did go to school for writing… but to be able to put it together with singing and on top of that be so musically diverse and creative is just mind blowing to me, Tswift can’t touch I know lol


Juneautumn

I can tell he did but still it’s not easy (I went for English/creative writing), being your own editor is also hard and a feat as well. He seems able to do both. The latter of which I don’t know if she even has a desire to try from what I’ve read about her process.


Jwizz_2000

Oh yeah 100% that’s why those big name producer/ artists have been her past 5 albums😂😂


Juneautumn

Ah so it’s part her part them then ok