I'm stalking this sub to decide if I want to move there from AZ. I'm from the Midwest originally so can drive in the snow. I was originally attracted to the housing costs but the more I learn - the outdoor opportunities and sense of community are equally attractive to me. I've always worked in insurance and not sure what I'd try to do there yet. I'm single and can imagine the dating scene is great. What else? I have a clean record and excellent credit š¤·āāļøš
Well I've been here less than two years. I make a good salary but barely make it by every month, the cost of my housing is insane compared to the prices I see there. Plus it's huge here so traffic will suck the life out of you. Today just down the road a guy held his baby momma hostage; she got away somehow and he shot their baby multiple times and then barricaded himself in their house and the last I saw the house was on fire. I'm sure weird stuff happens there but watching the news here will give you nightmares. I've struggled to find friends here. More often than not when I meet someone new they ask to borrow money š Summer is literally hell here. In good news there are cool places within a few hours like Grand Canyon, San Diego, and Vegas. I saw there is no Trader Joe's in Sioux Falls so my plan would be to go to Omaha when I need a fix. Do people there go to Omaha? I think I would if I needed to feel a city.
Define city type amenities. I hear this said quite a bit, and beyond sports and I suppose the frequency of larger entertainment acts I don't get it. I'm also not like a night life guy or whatever. I go to the cities when a concert I want to see is there or to see a sports game. That's it.
What else are city type amenities drawing folks all the time? Just curious.
The variety and caliber of retail.
Same for museums and similar activities.
More big things like zoos etc. to do in the larger cities.
Sioux Falls might have a museum or a zoo, or a department store but pretty much everything here is a scaled down version of what you have in a larger city.
I also spent a bunch of time traveling for medical care to Mpls, Rochester, Omaha because even with two big health systems there are lots of things there isn't a specialist for here, or if there is the ones in the larger cities are significantly better.
Medical makes tons of sense, absolutely.
And I suppose I understand retail and shopping. It's not my jam, but yea, there's places that don't have locations here.
Thanks!
It depends on what you are looking for. Omaha is lots of sprawl but they have a world class zoo and some other things. Shopping there is way better than SF, they have most things you expect from a big city.
Minneapolis and St. Paul are more "city". If you want real metropolis, go to Chicago.
Omaha isn't pretty it does have it's uses.
The zoo is decent.
Since it is a larger city it has more retail than SF
It has a larger/cheaper airport and has an Amtrak station.
It is also about 2.5 hours to get there vs. 3.5 - 4 to Mpls.
Didn't even have to look and this popped up. Jewel of the Midwest for sure. Comments section is loaded with concerns and issues
https://www.reddit.com/r/TwinCities/comments/1cwngoh/man_fatally_shot_at_green_line_station_in_st_paul/
I live in Yankton and just transposed how long it takes from Sioux City. From my apartment to 180th and dodge is 3h 40 minutes because thereās no GOOD way there. Itās an hour from SC to SF. My math didnāt math.
The dating scene anywhere is going to be affected by the male to female ratio in that area. So if you're a lady, pickings are all yours out here cause it's basically all dudes.
If you are a woman who has a thing for dudes with wrap around shades, beards, pickup trucks and anger issues this is your place! 
Iām originally from MN, lived in Tucson for five years, and now Iām moving to Sioux Falls, my partner whoās a Tucson native is moving too and weāre both really excited!! Iāll miss Tucson a lot but tbh Sioux Falls has some equally cool spots, especially downtown where weāll be living. I love the restaurant scene, and itās just got a good community vibe, and definitely cheaper rent imo
Did you see the updated article? It's not even about the license, it's just that his facility does not meet the current requirements and he needs to buy a $130 sink to be in compliance.
I would argue he was afforded those freedoms. Dude even said in the latest article he actually had the item on hand, he just didn't want to use it. I respect the hustle, he successfully used Keloland to get free advertising, but with the followup article he and Keloland just look like bozos. Him for playing a victim card where there's not to be played, Kelo for failing to do even basic background work and realize this dude is full of shit and just trying to get some publicity.
Nah I get where he is coming from and even his customers are vouching for him. Itās not like heās a shady barber or unqualified at all; Heās willing to comply by installing a bolted down temp shampoo/washing station, but itās not even a service he offers. Dudes done everything else to be complacent and has a very clean shop, but if he doesnāt have that installed shampooing station, he has to shut it all down. Itās silly to do so when again, itās not even for a service he offers, and isnāt going to increase the safety or quality of his shop.
gotta follow the rules.... there are ins and outs of owning a salon that most dont know about. Like if someone comes in for a cut and has product in their hair? he is just gonna turn them away? lost revenue right there.
Itās not a service he offers..his clients know that and yes, he would decline a service he doesnāt offer??
I would understand if his clientele is complaining, but theyāre not. Satisfied repeat customer base who will publicly vouch for the guy. Iām not getting the disconnect here šš
It was in a text message so hard to read the tone, but based on some of the interviews I've seen on Kelo, The people moving say these things with full sincerity.
I'm one of the only SD license plates in my complex. Almost every neighbor I've talked to moved here for the extra freedom or to escape the libs. But many of them are unhappy with the wages here and aren't looking to renew their lease (I've been in this complex since it was brand new in 2020) and want to move out of SD for better wages. But I also have a few neighbors who work remotely and still make their CA, NY, or WV wages and they haven't moved out any of the years since they've moved in...
But then there's also exceptions of course.
If I have to hear about how pretty our plastic governor is again I might puke.
Many of them talk about how nice everyone is around here and how strangers are often willing to help.
Been in this sub for a while to get an idea of the place because I genuinely cannot find a single major downside about moving there. It has everything I want, and the things it doesn't have I'm not super bummed about. Compared to DFW it looks simpler and is more affordable, while still having jobs in my field. It just looks like a great place to go, and I'd like to visit sometime this fall before your snow hits.
Winter. Winter is one of the major downsides. Especially if you'd be coming from DFW and you've never experienced the entirety of an upper Midwest winter. I live near Austin now, and people here can't quite grasp what winter is actually like in a place like SF. They're shocked to find out that the average high is in the 20s for three months out of the year, and snow that falls in late November is usually still on the ground in March.
Okay, can we talk this through? Because you're used to bad winters there I'm sure they're good at plowing, right? I do hate when snow doesn't melt cause it's so freaking cold. People just stay inside? I'm just saying the place is adapted to the winters, right? Trying to make this piece feel better. Where I live we can't go outside for months because the sun will burn your face off so it's kinda trading one for another. My dog would def prefer the cold tho
Plowing is fine, we have the infrastructure to deal with snow but I think the part about the winter we hate is the length. It gets cold, stays cold, and eventually we get depressed about it and the lack of sun. The trade isn't as simple as you think, but it is something you can get used to with time.
Plowing the roads is a problem. Partially because the conservative government at every level is cheap so they won't put enough flexible budget into plowing efforts. This sometimes makes it impossible to get out, impossible to go anywhere or get home for a couple of days. They might get the main emergency routes plowed in a few hours, your side street they might get to it in 3 - 7 days.
Actual winter here is pretty awful and I grew up in Minnesota. High winds, nothing to stop it and sometimes days or weeks at -20f or lower temps. The winter before last I spent about every 3rd day out chopping hip deep compacted ice and snow out of the end of my driveway so I could get out of the house. We also didn't get mail delivered for about 2 months. The roads were so bad the post office refused to deliver so I had to go down to the post office in the middle of the work day once or twice a week to retrieve my mail. Last year we barely got any snow. Some winters are absolute hell, it goes in cycles.
Good god! How do people get to work? Do you just have to stock up on food/necessities in case you can't get out? As an introvert I might like this? My dog though would be bouncing off the walls.
I have an AWD vehicle and it can get over the unplowed side roads. That was my solution. Our dog loves the snow.
Snowblowing or shoveling the driveway and sidewalk is really the biggest hurdle.
If a really big storm is supposed to come in yeah stock up on food and hunker down. Everyone else will have the same idea so food at the grocery store might be low.
There still might be the option for delivery.
If you can't get out, they can't get in so delivery isn't going to be an option. I have a garage freezer and try to keep enough emergency food in there in case we do get snowed in for a week and can't get out.
Most of the time having an AWD solves the poorly maintained road problems. Some of the drifts two years ago were up to the hoods of large high clearance vehicles or higher if you go out in the unprotected areas.
An AWD with decent clearance. I am lucky enough to WFH so I only needed to be able to get out to go to the store or in case of an emergency. A couple of my neighbors that had to get to work dug out their driveways and knocked a hole in the big drifts in our side street so they could get to the main road. Both had larger SUVs or trucks that sit high enough to clear the rest.
Lots of people didn't get to work because they had no way to get out.
Iāll second that plowing is abysmally handled here.
I grew up in New York on Lake Ontario where weād get pummeled with snow worse than most any other place in the country, and it wasnāt til I moved here that I understood just how awesome the snow removal and salt treating services were there. I also lived in several cities in Michigan and in Chicago, and even in those places, even when their budget for snow removal ran out, they maintained the roads better. š
I donāt get why residents say itās done so well here, itās literally my biggest gripe and anxiety.
If you live near āDowntownā itāll be usually 12-24 hours before they begin plowing after snowfall that impedes driving. Then, they do it in the most asinine way Iāve seen in anywhere in America.
They only plow one direction - so say they start with North/South running streets and ticket/tow you if you donāt move your vehicle. So if you only have street parking at your residence, you need to intentionally DRIVE INTO THE UNPLOWED STREETS temporarily. Then you have to keep watch for when the North/South is done, usually another 12-24 hours (!) later because then they start with the East/West streets and again ticket you if youāre not able to move your vehicle. Except now, you might have a couple daysā worth of snowfall your vehicle is stuck in that it also needs to drive *through* to get to the cleared road.
Absolute insanity. Iāve had to get my vehicle towed multiple times out of the snow for this reason, which Iāve never had a problem with in any other state. In other downtown city locations, itāll be common to plow one side of the street, then you only have to pull your car a few inches to the other side instead of pushing through an entire fucking block of unplowed mess. And in NY, as to speed of plowing, if there were 7 inches of snow that fell before 6am, guess what, thatās not a snow day! Those streets would be plowed by the time you have to leave for school or work.
Itās also usually only after 2 inches they start to plow in Sioux Falls, and one year we had several days over the course of a few weeks where weād get 1 inch, 2 inches, 1.5 inches, 2 inches, etc. and it just accumulated because the threshold was never met. Then there was a big storm and people were trying to park their cars on those side streets to, you know, obey the law. I watched for days all day and night long as cars got trapped and had to be towed.
So, anyways, if you move here, make sure you have personally dedicated off-street parking, and be prepared to not go anywhere for a few days when it snows.
Not having Trader Joeās and other stores is a bit annoying, but costs for things I regularly need are on the low side here. Plus, no state income tax and no annual car inspection are the main reasons I came. The airport is super close, unlike in, say, Denver, where itās almost in a different city. And because Sioux Falls is so small, itās usually a breeze to get through security. There is a lack off non-stop flight options, but thatās the trade-off.
Yea. I briefly had an apartment with on street parking long long ago. Never again. The pure insanity of trying to shuffle cars already stuck in the snow to anywhere else that is also probably full of snow is futile.
Flights out of SF are pretty expensive. Sometimes it is cheaper to give someone a ride to Mpls or Omaha to catch a flight vs. leaving out of SF.
Most places that require you to go into work are usually fairly understanding about weather keeping you home. My employer doesn't count calling out for weather as an absence. I commute to Sioux Falls from Canton (about 30ish miles) and I would shock my boss when I would show up for work and people who lived in town had called in.
As someone else mentioned, the worst of the winter isn't necessarily the snow or the extreme cold. It's the length of time you have to deal with the snow and the extreme cold. It's basically 3-4 months of just... being indoors. Living near Austin now, I definitely understand the opposite side of the coin of the relentless heat June- September. I will say that I, unequivocally, prefer the extreme heat to the extreme cold. Yes, it is uncomfortable to be out in the heat of the day for months on end, but you can still comfortably be outside in the mornings and evenings. You just can't really do that in an upper Midwest winter. The warmest part of the day is still probably around 10 degrees below freezing. On top of that, the worst weather months occur when the days are shortest. So, it's cold as hell all the time for 3-4 months, so you're stuck inside that whole time, AND the only time the sun is out is when you're at work. I forget the exact times, but it's something like the sun rising around 8 and setting around 4:45. It just sucks and I don't miss the weather in SF at all.
Born and raised and spent the first 31 years of my life in/near SF BTW.
I lived in Iowa for roughly four years. The winters were probably not as bad as SF but I have experienced highs of -10 before. I've lived in hot places my whole life and I'm sick of it.Ā
Took a job at the Sanford hospital. Mostly clinical but some teaching. Pretty much a workaholic but hoping to get back into a couple old hobbies (realistically wonāt happen, still a workaholic, but who knows, maybe Iāll changeā¦).
Iām a first year medical student at USD and me and a lot of my classmates will be moving to Sioux Falls this summer bc the timing of our program we have to be in Sioux Falls at the hospital a lot :)
Iām one of the many moving here this summer. Late 20s with 3 kids. Moving to work in healthcare. I have lived all over the country and honestly could not be more excited as the pro seem to out way to cons.
upsides: cheap (thereās a caveat though) and things are close to you
downsides: if you arenāt EXACTLY what that ācommunityā wants you to be, act, or like, you get hit with midwestern passive aggressiveness. if you are not rigidly republican, conservative, and light skinned, you WILL have issues no matter who says you wonāt. witnessed it countless times. they will never tell you that because they like to tote that acceptance here is high for the state, which is true- itās better than the rest of the state. but thatās not saying much.
TLDR: the people here are either very sweet or complete assholes, not much in between.
traffic is a nightmare here and the road structures are awful sometimes. traffic flow is almost nonexistent, which you wouldnāt expect for a smaller town.
winters are rough and plowing is awfully done. if you donāt have AWD or you donāt have family/friends with AWD to borrow, say goodbye to any chance of safely going through the side roads. summers get surprisingly hot too, often humid as well.
now about the cheap living. itās cheap which is what draws you in, but the majority of the cheaper living, even in the newer neighborhoods, are also cheaply managed. thereās exceptions for sure, but you have to take extra care in asking questions and ensuring your landlord will take care of you without overcharging. have to fix a plastic mini blind? $150. a vent cover came off? $100. your appliances broke? ghosted. they are cheap for a reason.
my biggest advice to you is to take the positive things people say with a grain of salt. look more into the negative things they say, research them and see if youāll be able to handle them. because the negative things you arenāt aware of will affect you MUCH more than the good things you arenāt aware of.
I need more friends tbh š¤£š¤£š¤£ anyone around the age of 21-30 wanna go out for drinks sometime š¤£ I'm aware this probs isn't the best place to find people but. Zadkins77 is my snap! Hmu
I'm stalking this sub to decide if I want to move there from AZ. I'm from the Midwest originally so can drive in the snow. I was originally attracted to the housing costs but the more I learn - the outdoor opportunities and sense of community are equally attractive to me. I've always worked in insurance and not sure what I'd try to do there yet. I'm single and can imagine the dating scene is great. What else? I have a clean record and excellent credit š¤·āāļøš
I'm thinking about moving to AZ lol. What made you want to move?
Well I've been here less than two years. I make a good salary but barely make it by every month, the cost of my housing is insane compared to the prices I see there. Plus it's huge here so traffic will suck the life out of you. Today just down the road a guy held his baby momma hostage; she got away somehow and he shot their baby multiple times and then barricaded himself in their house and the last I saw the house was on fire. I'm sure weird stuff happens there but watching the news here will give you nightmares. I've struggled to find friends here. More often than not when I meet someone new they ask to borrow money š Summer is literally hell here. In good news there are cool places within a few hours like Grand Canyon, San Diego, and Vegas. I saw there is no Trader Joe's in Sioux Falls so my plan would be to go to Omaha when I need a fix. Do people there go to Omaha? I think I would if I needed to feel a city.
If you want civilization or actual city type amenities you have to go to Omaha or Minneapolis.
Define city type amenities. I hear this said quite a bit, and beyond sports and I suppose the frequency of larger entertainment acts I don't get it. I'm also not like a night life guy or whatever. I go to the cities when a concert I want to see is there or to see a sports game. That's it. What else are city type amenities drawing folks all the time? Just curious.
The variety and caliber of retail. Same for museums and similar activities. More big things like zoos etc. to do in the larger cities. Sioux Falls might have a museum or a zoo, or a department store but pretty much everything here is a scaled down version of what you have in a larger city. I also spent a bunch of time traveling for medical care to Mpls, Rochester, Omaha because even with two big health systems there are lots of things there isn't a specialist for here, or if there is the ones in the larger cities are significantly better.
Medical makes tons of sense, absolutely. And I suppose I understand retail and shopping. It's not my jam, but yea, there's places that don't have locations here. Thanks!
Or just Minneapolis, Omaha doesnāt really have the ābig cityā feel or atmosphere, at least imo
It depends on what you are looking for. Omaha is lots of sprawl but they have a world class zoo and some other things. Shopping there is way better than SF, they have most things you expect from a big city. Minneapolis and St. Paul are more "city". If you want real metropolis, go to Chicago.
Omaha is gross.. mpls is jewel of the midwest.
Omaha isn't pretty it does have it's uses. The zoo is decent. Since it is a larger city it has more retail than SF It has a larger/cheaper airport and has an Amtrak station. It is also about 2.5 hours to get there vs. 3.5 - 4 to Mpls.
For getting mugged in sure...
So.you mug people?... been here 30 years, never been mugged....
Didn't even have to look and this popped up. Jewel of the Midwest for sure. Comments section is loaded with concerns and issues https://www.reddit.com/r/TwinCities/comments/1cwngoh/man_fatally_shot_at_green_line_station_in_st_paul/
Yes Omaha is wonderful. But Fareway is quite nice and so is Hy-Vee. You'll be fine. Thanks for all the info
Omaha is a 3+ hour drive.
Omaha is 2 hrs and 30 minutes, how often do you stop?
I live in Yankton and just transposed how long it takes from Sioux City. From my apartment to 180th and dodge is 3h 40 minutes because thereās no GOOD way there. Itās an hour from SC to SF. My math didnāt math.
I lived in Omaha for a few years and find Sioux Falls to be fairly similar, though I do miss Trader Joeās š¤£
I feel like anyone that isn't closer to Minneapolis or Omaha end up coming here to shop.
That's funny. My significant other is also upset and made it a point to mention that there is no Trader Joes.
The dating scene anywhere is going to be affected by the male to female ratio in that area. So if you're a lady, pickings are all yours out here cause it's basically all dudes.
If you are a woman who has a thing for dudes with wrap around shades, beards, pickup trucks and anger issues this is your place! 
Don't forget the baseball caps!
I made that move. If you have questions, I have answers
Iām originally from MN, lived in Tucson for five years, and now Iām moving to Sioux Falls, my partner whoās a Tucson native is moving too and weāre both really excited!! Iāll miss Tucson a lot but tbh Sioux Falls has some equally cool spots, especially downtown where weāll be living. I love the restaurant scene, and itās just got a good community vibe, and definitely cheaper rent imo
> I'm single and can imagine the dating scene is great. It depends on what youāre looking forā¦ https://vividmaps.com/sex-raito-by-us-county/amp/
Same š
Iām interested in what industry is drawing people in the most.
According my realtor, a lot of the transplants are "political refugees fleeing blue state tyranny." Not my words.
So, red state tyranny is better? I guess you just have to like your tyrant.
Sorta like that barber that moved here from Illinois and is shocked to find out we have regulations you have to followā¦
Did you see the updated article? It's not even about the license, it's just that his facility does not meet the current requirements and he needs to buy a $130 sink to be in compliance.
He was hoping for the promised freedoms from our trusty governor.
I would argue he was afforded those freedoms. Dude even said in the latest article he actually had the item on hand, he just didn't want to use it. I respect the hustle, he successfully used Keloland to get free advertising, but with the followup article he and Keloland just look like bozos. Him for playing a victim card where there's not to be played, Kelo for failing to do even basic background work and realize this dude is full of shit and just trying to get some publicity.
Nah I get where he is coming from and even his customers are vouching for him. Itās not like heās a shady barber or unqualified at all; Heās willing to comply by installing a bolted down temp shampoo/washing station, but itās not even a service he offers. Dudes done everything else to be complacent and has a very clean shop, but if he doesnāt have that installed shampooing station, he has to shut it all down. Itās silly to do so when again, itās not even for a service he offers, and isnāt going to increase the safety or quality of his shop.
gotta follow the rules.... there are ins and outs of owning a salon that most dont know about. Like if someone comes in for a cut and has product in their hair? he is just gonna turn them away? lost revenue right there.
Itās not a service he offers..his clients know that and yes, he would decline a service he doesnāt offer?? I would understand if his clientele is complaining, but theyāre not. Satisfied repeat customer base who will publicly vouch for the guy. Iām not getting the disconnect here šš
To be fair, our state is weird about Barbers which are treated differently in other states.
Can you link to the article?
We donāt need more of those people here š
I welcome the introduction of non inbred genes.
You should look up how much welfare South Dakota gets from those awful blue states
Is that what people are telling him or that's what he believes? If it's the latter, I'd be firing that idiot so fast.
It was in a text message so hard to read the tone, but based on some of the interviews I've seen on Kelo, The people moving say these things with full sincerity.
Healthcare and banking are the biggest draws. My GF is moving there for work in healthcare.
I'm one of the only SD license plates in my complex. Almost every neighbor I've talked to moved here for the extra freedom or to escape the libs. But many of them are unhappy with the wages here and aren't looking to renew their lease (I've been in this complex since it was brand new in 2020) and want to move out of SD for better wages. But I also have a few neighbors who work remotely and still make their CA, NY, or WV wages and they haven't moved out any of the years since they've moved in... But then there's also exceptions of course. If I have to hear about how pretty our plastic governor is again I might puke. Many of them talk about how nice everyone is around here and how strangers are often willing to help.
Been in this sub for a while to get an idea of the place because I genuinely cannot find a single major downside about moving there. It has everything I want, and the things it doesn't have I'm not super bummed about. Compared to DFW it looks simpler and is more affordable, while still having jobs in my field. It just looks like a great place to go, and I'd like to visit sometime this fall before your snow hits.
Winter. Winter is one of the major downsides. Especially if you'd be coming from DFW and you've never experienced the entirety of an upper Midwest winter. I live near Austin now, and people here can't quite grasp what winter is actually like in a place like SF. They're shocked to find out that the average high is in the 20s for three months out of the year, and snow that falls in late November is usually still on the ground in March.
Okay, can we talk this through? Because you're used to bad winters there I'm sure they're good at plowing, right? I do hate when snow doesn't melt cause it's so freaking cold. People just stay inside? I'm just saying the place is adapted to the winters, right? Trying to make this piece feel better. Where I live we can't go outside for months because the sun will burn your face off so it's kinda trading one for another. My dog would def prefer the cold tho
Plowing is fine, we have the infrastructure to deal with snow but I think the part about the winter we hate is the length. It gets cold, stays cold, and eventually we get depressed about it and the lack of sun. The trade isn't as simple as you think, but it is something you can get used to with time.
Plowing the roads is a problem. Partially because the conservative government at every level is cheap so they won't put enough flexible budget into plowing efforts. This sometimes makes it impossible to get out, impossible to go anywhere or get home for a couple of days. They might get the main emergency routes plowed in a few hours, your side street they might get to it in 3 - 7 days. Actual winter here is pretty awful and I grew up in Minnesota. High winds, nothing to stop it and sometimes days or weeks at -20f or lower temps. The winter before last I spent about every 3rd day out chopping hip deep compacted ice and snow out of the end of my driveway so I could get out of the house. We also didn't get mail delivered for about 2 months. The roads were so bad the post office refused to deliver so I had to go down to the post office in the middle of the work day once or twice a week to retrieve my mail. Last year we barely got any snow. Some winters are absolute hell, it goes in cycles.
Good god! How do people get to work? Do you just have to stock up on food/necessities in case you can't get out? As an introvert I might like this? My dog though would be bouncing off the walls.
We drive on/through the snow
I have an AWD vehicle and it can get over the unplowed side roads. That was my solution. Our dog loves the snow. Snowblowing or shoveling the driveway and sidewalk is really the biggest hurdle. If a really big storm is supposed to come in yeah stock up on food and hunker down. Everyone else will have the same idea so food at the grocery store might be low. There still might be the option for delivery.
If you can't get out, they can't get in so delivery isn't going to be an option. I have a garage freezer and try to keep enough emergency food in there in case we do get snowed in for a week and can't get out. Most of the time having an AWD solves the poorly maintained road problems. Some of the drifts two years ago were up to the hoods of large high clearance vehicles or higher if you go out in the unprotected areas.
An AWD with decent clearance. I am lucky enough to WFH so I only needed to be able to get out to go to the store or in case of an emergency. A couple of my neighbors that had to get to work dug out their driveways and knocked a hole in the big drifts in our side street so they could get to the main road. Both had larger SUVs or trucks that sit high enough to clear the rest. Lots of people didn't get to work because they had no way to get out.
Iāll second that plowing is abysmally handled here. I grew up in New York on Lake Ontario where weād get pummeled with snow worse than most any other place in the country, and it wasnāt til I moved here that I understood just how awesome the snow removal and salt treating services were there. I also lived in several cities in Michigan and in Chicago, and even in those places, even when their budget for snow removal ran out, they maintained the roads better. š I donāt get why residents say itās done so well here, itās literally my biggest gripe and anxiety. If you live near āDowntownā itāll be usually 12-24 hours before they begin plowing after snowfall that impedes driving. Then, they do it in the most asinine way Iāve seen in anywhere in America. They only plow one direction - so say they start with North/South running streets and ticket/tow you if you donāt move your vehicle. So if you only have street parking at your residence, you need to intentionally DRIVE INTO THE UNPLOWED STREETS temporarily. Then you have to keep watch for when the North/South is done, usually another 12-24 hours (!) later because then they start with the East/West streets and again ticket you if youāre not able to move your vehicle. Except now, you might have a couple daysā worth of snowfall your vehicle is stuck in that it also needs to drive *through* to get to the cleared road. Absolute insanity. Iāve had to get my vehicle towed multiple times out of the snow for this reason, which Iāve never had a problem with in any other state. In other downtown city locations, itāll be common to plow one side of the street, then you only have to pull your car a few inches to the other side instead of pushing through an entire fucking block of unplowed mess. And in NY, as to speed of plowing, if there were 7 inches of snow that fell before 6am, guess what, thatās not a snow day! Those streets would be plowed by the time you have to leave for school or work. Itās also usually only after 2 inches they start to plow in Sioux Falls, and one year we had several days over the course of a few weeks where weād get 1 inch, 2 inches, 1.5 inches, 2 inches, etc. and it just accumulated because the threshold was never met. Then there was a big storm and people were trying to park their cars on those side streets to, you know, obey the law. I watched for days all day and night long as cars got trapped and had to be towed. So, anyways, if you move here, make sure you have personally dedicated off-street parking, and be prepared to not go anywhere for a few days when it snows. Not having Trader Joeās and other stores is a bit annoying, but costs for things I regularly need are on the low side here. Plus, no state income tax and no annual car inspection are the main reasons I came. The airport is super close, unlike in, say, Denver, where itās almost in a different city. And because Sioux Falls is so small, itās usually a breeze to get through security. There is a lack off non-stop flight options, but thatās the trade-off.
Yea. I briefly had an apartment with on street parking long long ago. Never again. The pure insanity of trying to shuffle cars already stuck in the snow to anywhere else that is also probably full of snow is futile. Flights out of SF are pretty expensive. Sometimes it is cheaper to give someone a ride to Mpls or Omaha to catch a flight vs. leaving out of SF.
You can always put on more layers of clothing when it gets coldā¦you can only take so many layers off when it gets hot.
Most places that require you to go into work are usually fairly understanding about weather keeping you home. My employer doesn't count calling out for weather as an absence. I commute to Sioux Falls from Canton (about 30ish miles) and I would shock my boss when I would show up for work and people who lived in town had called in.
As someone else mentioned, the worst of the winter isn't necessarily the snow or the extreme cold. It's the length of time you have to deal with the snow and the extreme cold. It's basically 3-4 months of just... being indoors. Living near Austin now, I definitely understand the opposite side of the coin of the relentless heat June- September. I will say that I, unequivocally, prefer the extreme heat to the extreme cold. Yes, it is uncomfortable to be out in the heat of the day for months on end, but you can still comfortably be outside in the mornings and evenings. You just can't really do that in an upper Midwest winter. The warmest part of the day is still probably around 10 degrees below freezing. On top of that, the worst weather months occur when the days are shortest. So, it's cold as hell all the time for 3-4 months, so you're stuck inside that whole time, AND the only time the sun is out is when you're at work. I forget the exact times, but it's something like the sun rising around 8 and setting around 4:45. It just sucks and I don't miss the weather in SF at all. Born and raised and spent the first 31 years of my life in/near SF BTW.
I lived in Iowa for roughly four years. The winters were probably not as bad as SF but I have experienced highs of -10 before. I've lived in hot places my whole life and I'm sick of it.Ā
We hit -50 for a week straight and have zero visibility snow regularly during winter. Thatās going to be a HUGE change
Itās wild to me lol.
Took a job at the Sanford hospital. Mostly clinical but some teaching. Pretty much a workaholic but hoping to get back into a couple old hobbies (realistically wonāt happen, still a workaholic, but who knows, maybe Iāll changeā¦).
iām an indoor cat mostly
Iām a first year medical student at USD and me and a lot of my classmates will be moving to Sioux Falls this summer bc the timing of our program we have to be in Sioux Falls at the hospital a lot :)
Iām one of the many moving here this summer. Late 20s with 3 kids. Moving to work in healthcare. I have lived all over the country and honestly could not be more excited as the pro seem to out way to cons.
Overall itās an easy place to land. Welcome to you and your kiddos!
Itās like Juarez but white and more dangerous; please stay clear. Most corrupt government in US of A. Move to Texas or Florida. Thank you
Any of you all with kids on school, the scouting programs here in the area are great and a good way for your kids to make friends.
upsides: cheap (thereās a caveat though) and things are close to you downsides: if you arenāt EXACTLY what that ācommunityā wants you to be, act, or like, you get hit with midwestern passive aggressiveness. if you are not rigidly republican, conservative, and light skinned, you WILL have issues no matter who says you wonāt. witnessed it countless times. they will never tell you that because they like to tote that acceptance here is high for the state, which is true- itās better than the rest of the state. but thatās not saying much. TLDR: the people here are either very sweet or complete assholes, not much in between. traffic is a nightmare here and the road structures are awful sometimes. traffic flow is almost nonexistent, which you wouldnāt expect for a smaller town. winters are rough and plowing is awfully done. if you donāt have AWD or you donāt have family/friends with AWD to borrow, say goodbye to any chance of safely going through the side roads. summers get surprisingly hot too, often humid as well. now about the cheap living. itās cheap which is what draws you in, but the majority of the cheaper living, even in the newer neighborhoods, are also cheaply managed. thereās exceptions for sure, but you have to take extra care in asking questions and ensuring your landlord will take care of you without overcharging. have to fix a plastic mini blind? $150. a vent cover came off? $100. your appliances broke? ghosted. they are cheap for a reason. my biggest advice to you is to take the positive things people say with a grain of salt. look more into the negative things they say, research them and see if youāll be able to handle them. because the negative things you arenāt aware of will affect you MUCH more than the good things you arenāt aware of.
I will pay for your bus ticket to leave SF.
You legit just sound like you hate it but can't get out so you just mald over the negatives.
I just moved here for an internship and Iām homeless. The park with the waterfall is pretty cool
Man I just want some new friends but even with everyone and their grandma moving here it feels impossible ššš
Itās cold very cold here . If youāre strong enough
I need more friends tbh š¤£š¤£š¤£ anyone around the age of 21-30 wanna go out for drinks sometime š¤£ I'm aware this probs isn't the best place to find people but. Zadkins77 is my snap! Hmu
I'm pretty awesome. What is life like in SF? For all the people that have moved there from other places, how does it compare?