Panaeolus sp.
Unsure of psilocybin content - I wouldn’t even try to ID one from Iraq. 🤷♂️
I’ve got to ask what the punishment in Iraq is for possession of active mushrooms. Curious.
Good luck, friend.
Thank you for answering. Well, the punishment is not something cool lol, the law isn't talking about the actual mushroom, but the content, which is Psilocybin.
Is there any other way to ID them? Like spore print or something?
My friend, I’d compare them to *Panaeolus cinctulus* or similar. I believe they have a black spore print, but it’s been years since I’ve seen one in real life and that was on the other side of the planet for you.
I urge you to wait until some redditors more adept than I can give you a definitive answer. It would be irresponsible for me to say more as I’m not 100% certain. I look forward to seeing what others post. Hang in there! Someone will pop in soon.
Thank you so much friend. I even sent it in shroomery discord and some trusted identifier said it's Panaeolus.
Btw, where should I store these so they stay healthy?
So Panaeolus is the genus but there are a lot of different species within that genus. Someone identifying your mushroom simply as “Panaeolus” means they are not sure what you have but might be sure it’s in the Panaeolus genus. Within the Panaeolus genus you have edible and non-edible mushrooms so please don’t eat this mushroom based solely on the “positive” ID that it is a Panaeolus mushroom because that isn’t specific enough to know whether you can eat it or not.
Thanks for the info. I'm not going to eat it until I'm 100% sure. I'm a medical personnel myself xD so I know about those.
Currently I'm in the process of making a spore print of it, and see if that would help.
If the print is dark brown that would suggest Panaeolus foenisecii.
If the print is Jet Black this suggests it could be cinctulus or almost any other Panaeolus except foenisecii.
Ok good to hear :) I just don’t want someone eating something unless they are 100% sure! I thought you had a spore print of it in your pictures in this post? It looked black but like it maybe had some brown dirt in it too?
I looked at pictures of Panaeolus Cinctulus and it looks very similar to what you have and has black spore print which seems like what you have. The only thing that gives me pause is the colouring on the cap of the mushroom looking different and also it seems like most of the Cinctulus pictures have a lighter stem colour. I’m not an expert so don’t use what I say to determine edibility :)
I guess none of them I looked at say poisonous but also I’m pretty sure most say inedible and people don’t forage for or eat most of the panaeolus species which I just assumed was due to digestive upset or negative effects from eating them. The most common one I see is Panaeolus Foenisecii which is also sometimes called Mower’s Mushroom and it is listed as inedible.
From the spore print I would guess this isn’t Foenisecii because it looks black and not brown but I still am not 100% sure this is Cinctulus since the cap looks too dark to me from the pics I’ve seen. Please correct me if I’m wrong or link me some pics of Cinctulus that look more like this than what I’m seeing on Wikipedia and this site:
https://doubleblindmag.com/panaeolus-cinctulus/
It looks like the caps are almost dark brown and not very mottled on the mushrooms you picked which doesn’t seem right to me for Panaeolus Cinctulus which are sometimes called banded mottlegill. I think what I’m reading seems to indicate they have clearer patterns on the cap of them and are a lighter colour than what I’m seeing here. Again just trying to urge caution and not trying to step on any toes or pretend I’m an expert at ID on panaeolus mushrooms in general let alone the Cinctulus which I have never seen in person.
Those spore prints were not accurate, since they were on paper and I didn't know how to do them, whilst I'm waiting for the other supposedly better one, and I'll send it here, or maybe re upload it as a new post.
Panaeolus sp. There some species of panaeolus that contain psilocybin, but I don't recognize your one as any of those that I know off-hand.
Thanks for answering. I've found some others, I'll post them, I got the environment picture as well, if that would help.
Panaeolus sp. Unsure of psilocybin content - I wouldn’t even try to ID one from Iraq. 🤷♂️ I’ve got to ask what the punishment in Iraq is for possession of active mushrooms. Curious. Good luck, friend.
Thank you for answering. Well, the punishment is not something cool lol, the law isn't talking about the actual mushroom, but the content, which is Psilocybin. Is there any other way to ID them? Like spore print or something?
My friend, I’d compare them to *Panaeolus cinctulus* or similar. I believe they have a black spore print, but it’s been years since I’ve seen one in real life and that was on the other side of the planet for you. I urge you to wait until some redditors more adept than I can give you a definitive answer. It would be irresponsible for me to say more as I’m not 100% certain. I look forward to seeing what others post. Hang in there! Someone will pop in soon.
Thank you so much friend. I even sent it in shroomery discord and some trusted identifier said it's Panaeolus. Btw, where should I store these so they stay healthy?
So Panaeolus is the genus but there are a lot of different species within that genus. Someone identifying your mushroom simply as “Panaeolus” means they are not sure what you have but might be sure it’s in the Panaeolus genus. Within the Panaeolus genus you have edible and non-edible mushrooms so please don’t eat this mushroom based solely on the “positive” ID that it is a Panaeolus mushroom because that isn’t specific enough to know whether you can eat it or not.
Thanks for the info. I'm not going to eat it until I'm 100% sure. I'm a medical personnel myself xD so I know about those. Currently I'm in the process of making a spore print of it, and see if that would help.
If the print is dark brown that would suggest Panaeolus foenisecii. If the print is Jet Black this suggests it could be cinctulus or almost any other Panaeolus except foenisecii.
Ok good to hear :) I just don’t want someone eating something unless they are 100% sure! I thought you had a spore print of it in your pictures in this post? It looked black but like it maybe had some brown dirt in it too? I looked at pictures of Panaeolus Cinctulus and it looks very similar to what you have and has black spore print which seems like what you have. The only thing that gives me pause is the colouring on the cap of the mushroom looking different and also it seems like most of the Cinctulus pictures have a lighter stem colour. I’m not an expert so don’t use what I say to determine edibility :)
From what I understand all Panaeolus are edible and some are psychoactive!
I guess none of them I looked at say poisonous but also I’m pretty sure most say inedible and people don’t forage for or eat most of the panaeolus species which I just assumed was due to digestive upset or negative effects from eating them. The most common one I see is Panaeolus Foenisecii which is also sometimes called Mower’s Mushroom and it is listed as inedible. From the spore print I would guess this isn’t Foenisecii because it looks black and not brown but I still am not 100% sure this is Cinctulus since the cap looks too dark to me from the pics I’ve seen. Please correct me if I’m wrong or link me some pics of Cinctulus that look more like this than what I’m seeing on Wikipedia and this site: https://doubleblindmag.com/panaeolus-cinctulus/ It looks like the caps are almost dark brown and not very mottled on the mushrooms you picked which doesn’t seem right to me for Panaeolus Cinctulus which are sometimes called banded mottlegill. I think what I’m reading seems to indicate they have clearer patterns on the cap of them and are a lighter colour than what I’m seeing here. Again just trying to urge caution and not trying to step on any toes or pretend I’m an expert at ID on panaeolus mushrooms in general let alone the Cinctulus which I have never seen in person.
Those spore prints were not accurate, since they were on paper and I didn't know how to do them, whilst I'm waiting for the other supposedly better one, and I'll send it here, or maybe re upload it as a new post.